[Elecraft] K3 / VHF-UHF Questions

[James Bennett]

Greetings fellow Elecrafters. After seeing the photo and short article (pg 76) 
in the recent issue of QST where W5RZ and WB5JJJ made several DX EME QSOs 
during a NPOA excursion, I'm a little curious about it. Many moons ago I used a 
Yaesu FT-736R and operated 144/432 MHz satellite modes. I used a pair of home 
brew quagis and a commercial amp, about 100 watts out, as I vaguely recall. Fun 
stuff. But my '736 is long gone, dang it.

There are very, very few rigs on the market that do VHF and UHF. Icom has the 
new IC-9100 for a bazillion dollars, or one could go hunting in the used market 
for an older IC-910H or a '736 like I had. Still not inexpensive by any means. 
I've already got the K-Line here and was wondering about the Elecraft XV432 as 
a first step. Twenty five watts probably isn't gonna get a lot of RF to the 
moon and back, but maybe coupled with an amp...?

Anyone on this list using their K3/K3S with the XV432 to do EME? If so, what 
are your likes and dislikes about it? How much power do you run, and what sort 
of antenna are you driving? 

Just wondering.. :-)

Jim Bennett / W6JHB
Folsom, CA
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Re: [Elecraft] [KX3] K, KX radio's and DTMF tones

[Wayne Burdick]

The KX3 already supports DTMF (see owner's manual). It's on the wish-list for 
the K3/K3S.

73,
Wayne
N6KR


On Jun 1, 2016, at 1:54 PM, "Ken G Kopp kengk...@gmail.com [KX3]" 
 wrote:

> 
> For what seemingly is a relatively small number of FM users, DTMF tones are 
> easily achieved with a DTMF pad-equipped microphone, and that would seem to 
> be much better than complicating the already "busy" push-button operation.
> 
> I'm probably missing something .
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Re: [Elecraft] KX2 Bone Head Mistake pure and simple...

[Wayne Burdick]

Hi Phil,

The only recommended charger for the KX2 is the one that is designed 
specifically for it. That's the KXBT2. Anything else might come with some risk. 
See the detailed information that comes with the battery (or charger). 

Maybe we need to make the need for the matching charger clearer on our order 
page.

tnx
Wayne
N6KR


On Jun 1, 2016, at 10:27 AM, Phil Townsend Lontz  wrote:

> So,I bought a KX2, a battery and an ATU... All working FB. But did I buy a 
> battery charger??? Well, no, I have battery chargers in fact a bunch all 
> designed to charge a wide variety of LION or LIPO or nicads lead acid or 
> Nickle metal  etc. But I cant charge the Elecraft Battery.
> It seems that to charge the battery one needs the Elecraft Battery charger. I 
> did not buy the Elecraft Charger... Bonehead MISTAKE. 
> 
> So the question is How to charge that battery?
> Must I strip out all of the protection to charge it or is there a simple way 
> around?
> 
> Thank You
> 
> Phil
> K5SSR
> Santa Fe, NM
> 
> What Me Worry???

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Re: [Elecraft] DTMF Tones on the K3

[Myron Schaffer]

…unless you are digging weak signals out of the moon using it as an IF rig. 
Never such as thing as too much performance in an IF rig. I can see why EME-ers 
just want a little bit more. One of my Elmers, Al, W0PUF and I participated in 
the 1995 ARRL EME Contest with a Scientific Atlanta 10m dish spec’d for 4 GHz 
and a TS-700SP/HB amp with a pair of 4CX250Bs with an Ameco Rx conveter with no 
pre-amp…and got five QSOs from the W0BLK Club station out near Ellsworth AFB in 
Box Elder, SD. Worked the big guns only, like Al, WB5LUA and KB8RQ to name two. 
Ah, memories…I remember when we were working on the feed in the bird bath mode 
and a flock of migrating Sand Hill cranes were going south for the winter in 
formation directly overhead. I was in the focal point of that 30 foot dish and 
told Al on my HT to watch the flock as I made some noise. So Al got out the 
door in time to hear me issue some vocal shotgun blasts, “BOOM, BOOM, BOOM!” I 
shouted and be darned if they didn’t scatter…Awesome. They were way up there, 
like 10,000 feet maybe, who knows but I could hear them as if they were right 
there, trumpeting away. I miss Al.

Myron WV0H
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From: Kevin Stover
Sent: Wednesday, June 1, 2016 6:44 PM
To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] DTMF Tones on the K3

I'm probably going to regret sending this and this is just my opinion.

It seems to me using the K3 as a V/UHF FM rig is akin to using a 
Thoroughbred race horse to pull a manure spreader.
Yeahit'll do it but there are better tools to use.
One thing the Japanese are better at is designing inexpensive, full 
featured V/UHF FM gear.

K3 and my Yaesu FT-8900 sitting next to each other and I want to 
blah,blah,blah on the local repeater. The Yaesu will get used 
99.995% of the time.
Sorry Elecraftyou aren't even in the neighborhood on this one.

On 6/1/2016 8:31 AM, R Stanley Sutton wrote:
> I add my vote to getting this done on the K3.
>
> Stan KD8KBX
>
>
>


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Re: [Elecraft] [PX3] Carrier Null

[Don Wilhelm]

Joel,

Mirror images normally mean that only one channel of the I/Q outputs are 
being received by the PX3.  Make certain the RX I/Q cables are fully 
plugged in (both ends).
So rather than "holding your mouth right", try "holding your fingers 
right" to fully insert the plugs.


Start over with the default settings after checking the cable and go 
from there.
I doubt the service monitor will do much unless it tunes down to the low 
audio range.


You can try plugging a set of amplified speakers into the KX3 RX I/Q to 
see if you get something in each channel, or if you want to get more 
exotic, use an audio spectrum analyzer that will display stereo channels 
and feed the RX I/Q to a computer soundcard.

The 2 audio channels from the KX3 should be shown, but out of phase.

73,
Don W3FPR

On 6/1/2016 8:31 PM, Joel Black wrote:

I recently acquired a used PX3 and am quite pleased with it. I am, however, 
having a difficult time with the carrier null procedure. If memory serves, I 
had a problem trying to do the carrier null on an SDR I built five or six years 
ago too.

I never could quite get the signal generator in the PX3 to get to -40. It 
stayed around -45. I did write everything down and did try to adjust the nulls 
but I’ve either got too much noise in the shack or I just don’t know what in 
the world I’m doing.

Right now, I’m listening on 75 m and I can see the center carrier plus mirror 
images of each side of the carrier. The span is set to 50 kHz.

Any certain way I’m supposed to “hold my mouth” or “stick out my tongue” while 
I do this? :)



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Re: [Elecraft] [PX3] Carrier Null

[Nr4c]

Please check that ALL connectors are plugged in ALL the way. 

Sent from my iPhone
...nr4c. bill


> On Jun 1, 2016, at 8:31 PM, Joel Black  wrote:
> 
> I recently acquired a used PX3 and am quite pleased with it. I am, however, 
> having a difficult time with the carrier null procedure. If memory serves, I 
> had a problem trying to do the carrier null on an SDR I built five or six 
> years ago too.
> 
> I never could quite get the signal generator in the PX3 to get to -40. It 
> stayed around -45. I did write everything down and did try to adjust the 
> nulls but I’ve either got too much noise in the shack or I just don’t know 
> what in the world I’m doing.
> 
> Right now, I’m listening on 75 m and I can see the center carrier plus mirror 
> images of each side of the carrier. The span is set to 50 kHz.
> 
> Any certain way I’m supposed to “hold my mouth” or “stick out my tongue” 
> while I do this? :)
> 
> I’ll bring home a service monitor from work tomorrow and hope it tunes down 
> as low as I need it to go.
> 
> 73,
> Joel - W4JBB
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[Elecraft] [PX3] Carrier Null

[Joel Black]

I recently acquired a used PX3 and am quite pleased with it. I am, however, 
having a difficult time with the carrier null procedure. If memory serves, I 
had a problem trying to do the carrier null on an SDR I built five or six years 
ago too.

I never could quite get the signal generator in the PX3 to get to -40. It 
stayed around -45. I did write everything down and did try to adjust the nulls 
but I’ve either got too much noise in the shack or I just don’t know what in 
the world I’m doing.

Right now, I’m listening on 75 m and I can see the center carrier plus mirror 
images of each side of the carrier. The span is set to 50 kHz.

Any certain way I’m supposed to “hold my mouth” or “stick out my tongue” while 
I do this? :)

I’ll bring home a service monitor from work tomorrow and hope it tunes down as 
low as I need it to go.

73,
Joel - W4JBB
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Re: [Elecraft] DTMF Tones on the K3

[Ken Arck]

I bought my K3S/10 for use mostly with a 2 meter transverter for EME 
work and 6 meters (easily drives my LDMOS SSPA to 1 KW.


My interest in HF is..passing 

Ken, AH6LE


At 04:41 PM 6/1/2016, Kevin Stover wrote:

I'm probably going to regret sending this and this is just my opinion.

It seems to me using the K3 as a V/UHF FM rig is akin to using a 
Thoroughbred race horse to pull a manure spreader.

Yeahit'll do it but there are better tools to use.
One thing the Japanese are better at is designing inexpensive, full 
featured V/UHF FM gear.


K3 and my Yaesu FT-8900 sitting next to each other and I want to 
blah,blah,blah on the local repeater. The Yaesu will get used 
99.995% of the time.

Sorry Elecraftyou aren't even in the neighborhood on this one.

On 6/1/2016 8:31 AM, R Stanley Sutton wrote:

I add my vote to getting this done on the K3.

Stan KD8KBX





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Re: [Elecraft] DTMF Tones on the K3

[Kevin Stover]

I'm probably going to regret sending this and this is just my opinion.

It seems to me using the K3 as a V/UHF FM rig is akin to using a 
Thoroughbred race horse to pull a manure spreader.

Yeahit'll do it but there are better tools to use.
One thing the Japanese are better at is designing inexpensive, full 
featured V/UHF FM gear.


K3 and my Yaesu FT-8900 sitting next to each other and I want to 
blah,blah,blah on the local repeater. The Yaesu will get used 
99.995% of the time.

Sorry Elecraftyou aren't even in the neighborhood on this one.

On 6/1/2016 8:31 AM, R Stanley Sutton wrote:

I add my vote to getting this done on the K3.

Stan KD8KBX






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Re: [Elecraft] K3 Remote Power On/Off Ron Castro

[Ed]

What Don, W3FPR, Stated is the correct way to handle the power on/off 
function.  Pulling power from the K3 without an orderly shut down is 
very risky and reloading the firmware and configuration files remotely 
could prove to be a chore.


I use the macro to shut things down.  After the shut down I then shut 
off the power supply.  To power up I use a relay with an R/C time 
constant wired across the 12v power buss.  When the power supply powers 
up this relay bumps pin 8 of the accessory socket with a ground pulse 
telling the K3 to power up.  The pulse timing isn't anything close to 
critical.


All this makes the 12v power control a little messy when dealing with 
remote control.  Problem is, I haven't been able to come up with 
anything simpler.  Some of the remote control program out there will 
issue the power down command to the K3 when you close the program, but 
not all of them do this.  You still have to deal with powering up the K3.


Ed, K6ED

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Re: [Elecraft] [KX3] KX2 Bone Head Mistake pure and simple...

[Nr4c]

BUY THE $&@( ELECRAFT CHARGER!  There, how simple is that?

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> On Jun 1, 2016, at 1:27 PM, Phil Townsend Lontz phi...@mac.com [KX3] 
>  wrote:
> 
> So,I bought a KX2, a battery and an ATU... All working FB. But did I buy a 
> battery charger??? Well, no, I have battery chargers in fact a bunch all 
> designed to charge a wide variety of LION or LIPO or nicads lead acid or 
> Nickle metal  etc. But I cant charge the Elecraft Battery.
> It seems that to charge the battery one needs the Elecraft Battery charger. I 
> did not buy the Elecraft Charger... Bonehead MISTAKE. 
> 
> So the question is How to charge that battery?
> Must I strip out all of the protection to charge it or is there a simple way 
> around?
> 
> Thank You
> 
> Phil
> K5SSR
> Santa Fe, NM
> 
> What Me Worry???
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Re: [Elecraft] K3 Remote Power On/Off

['DGB']

Very simple with Elecraft's hosting utility.

73 Dwight NS9I


On 6/1/2016 4:19 PM, Bill Steffey NY9H wrote:

since there IS something in the K3, looking for that power button press,
could not also look for a double hit on some unused serial line ???
That the remote software could employ?


i have had my k3 turned off while remoting,.,,,  multi times...
once i called home and my wife gladly turned it back on...
   she said  'Oh you mean the radio I just turned off.'.

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Re: [Elecraft] [KX3] KX2 Bone Head Mistake pure and simple...

[Bob Nielsen]

It can run from an external supply. Per the manual it takes 8-15v.

73, Bob N7XY

On 6/1/16 2:36 PM, a...@sbcglobal.net wrote:

Is KX2 somehow restricted to the KXBT2, 11V (3 cell?) battery pack?   I cant 
find DC input voltage range listed in the specifications on the Elecraft 
website.
Thanks,
Mike  AC5P

 On Wednesday, June 1, 2016 3:54 PM, Phil Wheeler  wrote:
  


  Hi, Phil --

Well, you could buy the charger -- and operate off
an external supply (like some battery, even!)
while you wait for it ;-)

73, Phil W7OX

On 6/1/16 10:27 AM, Phil Townsend Lontz
phi...@mac.com [KX3] wrote:

So,I bought a KX2, a battery and an ATU... All
working FB. But did I buy a battery charger???
Well, no, I have battery chargers in fact a
bunch all designed to charge a wide variety of
LION or LIPO or nicads lead acid or Nickle
metal  etc. But I cant charge the Elecraft Battery.
It seems that to charge the battery one needs
the Elecraft Battery charger. I did not buy the
Elecraft Charger... Bonehead MISTAKE.

So the question is How to charge that battery?
Must I strip out all of the protection to charge
it or is there a simple way around?

Thank You

Phil
K5SSR
Santa Fe, NM


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Re: [Elecraft] [KX3] KX2 Bone Head Mistake pure and simple...

[ac5p]

Is KX2 somehow restricted to the KXBT2, 11V (3 cell?) battery pack?   I cant 
find DC input voltage range listed in the specifications on the Elecraft 
website.   
Thanks,  
Mike  AC5P   

On Wednesday, June 1, 2016 3:54 PM, Phil Wheeler  wrote:
 

 Hi, Phil --

Well, you could buy the charger -- and operate off 
an external supply (like some battery, even!) 
while you wait for it ;-)

73, Phil W7OX

On 6/1/16 10:27 AM, Phil Townsend Lontz 
phi...@mac.com [KX3] wrote:
> So,I bought a KX2, a battery and an ATU... All 
> working FB. But did I buy a battery charger??? 
> Well, no, I have battery chargers in fact a 
> bunch all designed to charge a wide variety of 
> LION or LIPO or nicads lead acid or Nickle 
> metal  etc. But I cant charge the Elecraft Battery.
> It seems that to charge the battery one needs 
> the Elecraft Battery charger. I did not buy the 
> Elecraft Charger... Bonehead MISTAKE.
>
> So the question is How to charge that battery?
> Must I strip out all of the protection to charge 
> it or is there a simple way around?
>
> Thank You
>
> Phil
> K5SSR
> Santa Fe, NM
>

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Re: [Elecraft] K3 Remote Power On/Off

[Bill Steffey NY9H]

since there IS something in the K3, looking for that power button press,
could not also look for a double hit on some unused serial line ???
That the remote software could employ?


i have had my k3 turned off while remoting,.,,,  multi times...
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[Elecraft] K, KX radio's and DTMF tones

[Ken G Kopp]

For what seemingly is a relatively small number of FM users, DTMF tones are
easily achieved with a DTMF pad-equipped microphone, and that would seem to
be much better than complicating the already "busy" push-button operation.

I'm probably missing something .

73
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Re: [Elecraft] [KX3] KX2 Bone Head Mistake pure and simple...

[Phil Wheeler]

Hi, Phil --

Well, you could buy the charger -- and operate off 
an external supply (like some battery, even!) 
while you wait for it ;-)


73, Phil W7OX

On 6/1/16 10:27 AM, Phil Townsend Lontz 
phi...@mac.com [KX3] wrote:
So,I bought a KX2, a battery and an ATU... All 
working FB. But did I buy a battery charger??? 
Well, no, I have battery chargers in fact a 
bunch all designed to charge a wide variety of 
LION or LIPO or nicads lead acid or Nickle 
metal  etc. But I cant charge the Elecraft Battery.
It seems that to charge the battery one needs 
the Elecraft Battery charger. I did not buy the 
Elecraft Charger... Bonehead MISTAKE.


So the question is How to charge that battery?
Must I strip out all of the protection to charge 
it or is there a simple way around?


Thank You

Phil
K5SSR
Santa Fe, NM



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Re: [Elecraft] [KX3] KX2 Bone Head Mistake pure and simple...

[Matt Maguire]

Not ordering a charger from Elecraft is an oversight, easily corrected. Ripping 
out protection circuitry from a Li Ion battery is a bonehead mistake :-)

73, Matt VK2RQ

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Subject: [KX3] KX2 Bone Head Mistake pure and simple...
To: Wayne Burdick 
Cc: Elecraft Reflector ,  , 
Scott Dupuie 


  

So,I bought a KX2, a battery and an ATU... All working FB. But did I buy a 
battery charger??? Well, no, I have battery chargers in fact a bunch all 
designed to charge a wide variety of LION or LIPO or nicads lead acid or Nickle 
metal  etc. But I cant charge the Elecraft Battery.
It seems that to charge the battery one needs the Elecraft Battery charger. I 
did not buy the Elecraft Charger... Bonehead MISTAKE. 

So the question is How to charge that battery?Must I strip out all of the 
protection to charge it or is there a simple way around?
Thank You
PhilK5SSRSanta Fe, NM
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Re: [Elecraft] DTMF Tones on the K3

[David Pratt]

Many thanks, Joe and Don, for that useful information which I shall keep
in mind.  I would, however, like to continue using my D104 microphone
with which I receive outstanding good quality reports.

73 de David G4DMP

In a recent message, Don Wilhelm  writes
>I agree with Joe, but there is a typo - the brown wire should end up on
>pin 6.
>
>73,
>Don W3FPR
>
>On 6/1/2016 10:03 AM, Joe Subich, W4TV wrote:
>>
>> Pick up a Kenwood MC-48, move the brown wire from pin 5 to pin 5 in the
>> mic connector and be done with it.

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Re: [Elecraft] KX3 4m transverter specification on spurious outputs?

[David Anderson via Elecraft]

Some better news, actual a lot better news, after reviewing my test setup, I 
discovered that my SDR was overloaded, and the products at 20 kHz either side 
on SSB were IMD in the SDR, they vanished by using less gain in the SDR. The 
other spikes which contain no modulation are about 76 dB down on the wanted 
signal, an awful lot better than I had measured earlier. They are at about 12 
kHz spacing and must be some DC - DC converter noise I guess.

On transmit on CW with no key down there are no sign of those spikes. They only 
appear when the key is down or in SSB irrespective of mic audio.

So things are looking perfectly OK as regards purity at least for a low power 
rig. I still wouldn't put this into an amplifier however.

The heat sinking issue with the PA is another matter, fortunately I don't use 
FM or AM, and FSK may not work anyway as the stability may not be sufficient, 
though it looks not too bad.

Let me be the first to apologise for my hasty review based on hurried and 
unscientific testing on my part. I clearly was in a panic having looked forward 
to getting this transverter and then sing what appeared to be major problems 
with its purity. 

The acid test will be on air testing with a close neighbour to see if they 
notice any problems. I don't have my yagi installed yet, so that will have to 
wait. 

73 from David GM4JJJ

> On 1 Jun 2016, at 19:32, David Anderson via Elecraft 
>  wrote:
> 
> I have just fitted a 4m internal transverter into my KX3 today. I wanted to 
> check the signal stability and quality on a load before putting it on the 
> air, and used my SDR as a spectrum analyser to examine the output. I have 
> used this SDR in the past for examine other transmitters so know it's 
> limitations and strengths.
> 
> Here are my observations so far:
> 
> 1) There is on frequency carrier leakage from the receiver. This isn't a big 
> deal, and is explained in the manual.
> 
> 2) When in transmit on SSB or CW with no keying or audio input, there are a 
> forest of spurs close to the operating frequency, they are independent of the 
> power setting. Perhaps 50 dB or less down on PEP. This is concerning. I will 
> do more accurate tests.
> 
> 3) When modulated there are products either side of the main signal that do 
> vary with modulation. They are again not very many dB down. This is very 
> concerning.
> 
> 4) I tried a transmission at 3W for a couple of minutes, and the PA 
> temperature quickly rose to the cut off point. Yes, I have tightened the 
> screw on the PA to the side wall. This will be a problem if using the rig on 
> high duty cycle modes like JT65. The PA of the transverter is a FET bolted to 
> the side wall of the KX3 and does not directly make use of any third party 
> heatsink that may be bolted to the top.
> 
> 5) Mysteriously a couple of times I have seen a High SWR warning briefly at 
> start of transmission.   
> 
> On the positive side the frequency stability is acceptable for SSB and CW. It 
> may even be for JT65 or FSK441.
> 
> I have not found any specification for the spectral purity of the 4m 
> transverter, so don't know if this is what Elecraft expect or not. It 
> certainly isn't up to my standards for a commercial amateur transmitter and I 
> wouldn't subject my friends to such a signal on the air.
> 
> The only thing in the installation manual that was unclear is the exact 
> routing of the LO cable from the RF board to the transverter by the heatsink 
> and the filter board and battery holder. I suppose there is a small 
> possibility that the routing of that cable may affect the levels of Spurs on 
> the signal. I may try some small adjustments and see.
> 
> I was going to build a medium (30 W) or high power (150 W) amplifier for the 
> transverter, but clearly I would not like to amplify a signal as impure as 
> this. My plans for 4m have now changed to an IC7300, and I may keep the KX3 
> 4m transverter as a backup or for portable work with QRP.
> 
> If anybody else has tested their 4m or 2m internal transverter for spectral 
> quality I would be interested in their comments.
> 
> 73 from David GM4JJJ
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Re: [Elecraft] KX2 Dilemma

[Bob Nielsen]

On 6/1/16 10:01 AM, Jeff Stai wrote:

On Wed, Jun 1, 2016 at 9:31 AM, Jim GM  wrote:


The most important spot for this radio is on a tap of a half barrel on
Field Day. Any have an attachment for this?


It depends a little on what's in the barrel, but I expect there are a few
of us that could home brew something. ;)

73 jeff wk6i


Years ago I heard of the term "antenna oil".  It was typically supplied 
during a tower raising party but would work equally as well on field day.


73, Bob N7XY

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[Elecraft] KX3

[Paula Uscian]

Mike, as noted in an earlier post, the KX3 is quite a bit quicker to
assemble.

 

I have my KX3 interfaced with N1MM+ through a 7" Win8.1 tablet with 1GB RAM
and 32GB storage (the tablet has a single USB port). I use a Targus BT
keyboard that runs on a AAA battery. By using the KY commands for the F keys
in N1MM+, you can avoid needing to use an interface like a WinKeyer; see the
info at
https://k4mtx.wordpress.com/2013/06/02/kx3-how-to-configure-n1mm-to-use-func
tion-keys-to-send-cw-without-additional-cables-or-hardware-like-winkeyer/
and associated links.

 

I used this setup briefly over this past weekend in the CQ WPX CW contest
with a SOTA Beams portable fiberglass mast and an LNR 20-30-40 antenna, and
it worked well.

 

73 Paula k9ir

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[Elecraft] KX3 4m transverter specification on spurious outputs?

[David Anderson via Elecraft]

I have just fitted a 4m internal transverter into my KX3 today. I wanted to 
check the signal stability and quality on a load before putting it on the air, 
and used my SDR as a spectrum analyser to examine the output. I have used this 
SDR in the past for examine other transmitters so know it's limitations and 
strengths.

Here are my observations so far:

1) There is on frequency carrier leakage from the receiver. This isn't a big 
deal, and is explained in the manual.

2) When in transmit on SSB or CW with no keying or audio input, there are a 
forest of spurs close to the operating frequency, they are independent of the 
power setting. Perhaps 50 dB or less down on PEP. This is concerning. I will do 
more accurate tests.

3) When modulated there are products either side of the main signal that do 
vary with modulation. They are again not very many dB down. This is very 
concerning.

4) I tried a transmission at 3W for a couple of minutes, and the PA temperature 
quickly rose to the cut off point. Yes, I have tightened the screw on the PA to 
the side wall. This will be a problem if using the rig on high duty cycle modes 
like JT65. The PA of the transverter is a FET bolted to the side wall of the 
KX3 and does not directly make use of any third party heatsink that may be 
bolted to the top.

5) Mysteriously a couple of times I have seen a High SWR warning briefly at 
start of transmission.   

On the positive side the frequency stability is acceptable for SSB and CW. It 
may even be for JT65 or FSK441.

I have not found any specification for the spectral purity of the 4m 
transverter, so don't know if this is what Elecraft expect or not. It certainly 
isn't up to my standards for a commercial amateur transmitter and I wouldn't 
subject my friends to such a signal on the air.

The only thing in the installation manual that was unclear is the exact routing 
of the LO cable from the RF board to the transverter by the heatsink and the 
filter board and battery holder. I suppose there is a small possibility that 
the routing of that cable may affect the levels of Spurs on the signal. I may 
try some small adjustments and see.

I was going to build a medium (30 W) or high power (150 W) amplifier for the 
transverter, but clearly I would not like to amplify a signal as impure as 
this. My plans for 4m have now changed to an IC7300, and I may keep the KX3 4m 
transverter as a backup or for portable work with QRP.

If anybody else has tested their 4m or 2m internal transverter for spectral 
quality I would be interested in their comments.

73 from David GM4JJJ
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Re: [Elecraft] KX2 Dilemma

[Jeff Stai]

On Wed, Jun 1, 2016 at 9:31 AM, Jim GM  wrote:

> The most important spot for this radio is on a tap of a half barrel on
> Field Day. Any have an attachment for this?
>

It depends a little on what's in the barrel, but I expect there are a few
of us that could home brew something. ;)

73 jeff wk6i


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[Elecraft] KX2 Dilemma

[Jim GM]

Hi

It not like me if I do not make a suggestion. or complain.

This radio has every thing you want in the field.
The most important spot for this radio is on a tap of a half barrel on
Field Day. Any have an attachment for this?

Cheers!
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Re: [Elecraft] DTMF Tones on the K3

[Don Wilhelm]

I agree with Joe, but there is a typo - the brown wire should end up on 
pin 6.


73,
Don W3FPR

On 6/1/2016 10:03 AM, Joe Subich, W4TV wrote:


Pick up a Kenwood MC-48, move the brown wire from pin 5 to pin 5 in the
mic connector and be done with it.

Overloading the K3/K3S front panel buttons with yet a *third* function
is a recipe for disaster.



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Re: [Elecraft] DTMF Tones on the K3

[Joe Subich, W4TV]

Pick up a Kenwood MC-48, move the brown wire from pin 5 to pin 5 in the
mic connector and be done with it.

Overloading the K3/K3S front panel buttons with yet a *third* function
is a recipe for disaster.

73,

   ... Joe, W4TV


On 6/1/2016 9:31 AM, R Stanley Sutton wrote:

I add my vote to getting this done on the K3.

Stan KD8KBX
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[Elecraft] K3 and Microham Digikeyer 2 and N1MM

[j...@kk9a.com]

Are you using the MicroHAM K3 cables? Did you set the internal jumpers
inside the DigiKeyerII?  You need to set the radio baud and the router
baud to the same setting. I use 38,400. The frequency should display in
the router software, if not it will not show up in N1MM either.

John KK9A

From: Ross ZL1WN
Tue May 31 20:17:01 EDT 2016

I am setting up my K3 with N1MM, so far I have the K3 transmitting and
receiving on RTTY, using the Microham.
But my problem is The router and N1mm are not seeing the K3 to report the
frequency etc.
Can someone please let me know what settings in the router and N1MM will
ensure that they talk to each other.  Or just the settings in N1MM that
will allow it to talk to the K3.
Thanks
Ross
ZL1WN

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[Elecraft] DTMF Tones on the K3

[R Stanley Sutton]

I add my vote to getting this done on the K3.

Stan KD8KBX
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[Elecraft] KX3 Noise Gate VOX delay BUG

[David Anderson via Elecraft]

A few weeks ago another ham in this list asked if anyone else had noticed a bug 
with the way that the KX3 handles VOX when the TX Noise gate is set to ON. With 
any gate level more than 00 the VOX delay setting is ignored and the VOX drops 
out immediately. 

I checked with my KX3 and indeed that is the case.

I don't know if this is specific to the KX3, as I don't have a K3 or KX2.

The other ham has reported this to Elecraft but has heard no more on the matter.

My question is, can this be fixed in firmware or is there some limitation that 
prevents the VOX delay from working with the TX Noise gate?

Many thanks,

73 from David GM4JJJ
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[Elecraft] DTMF tone support on the K3

[David Pratt]

Do you know whether there is any progress on this, Lyle?  I have been 
struggling with a handheld DTMF device, held close to the K3 microphone 
for years! It is somewhat cumbersome and I look forward to the long 
awaited DTMF feature on the K3 which I think has been on the software 
list for years.


I realize the KX3 has that feature, but unfortunately the output power 
of the KX3-2M module is just not sufficient to get me into my nearest 
Echolink repeater reliably. The K3 with its K144XV would be just fine.


I could buy a Kencomsu rig specifically for the purpose but I would far 
prefer to use my trusted K3 than go to the opposition.


73

David G4DMP

On Sun, Mar 27, 2011 at 6:33 PM, Lyle Johnson wrote:

> Currently, use of a DTMF-equipped microphone or generating the tones
> with an attached device. The K3 does not generate DTMF tones,although 
it

> could in a future firmware enhancement.
>
> 73,
>
> Lyle KK7P
>
>> I've been trying to find if there is a way to do this but have been
>> coming up blank...  Is there a way to send DTMF tones with the K3?

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Re: [Elecraft] TX Noise Gate on KX3 kills VOX delay setting

[David Anderson via Elecraft]

Michael,

Did you hear back from Elecraft on the noise Gate VOX delay bug?

73 from David GM4JJJ

> On 2 May 2016, at 20:45, David Anderson  wrote:
> 
> Thanks Michael, let us know when you hear anything back from them.
> 
> I wonder if the same thing happens with a K3? 
> 
> 73 from David GM4JJJ
> 
>> On 2 May 2016, at 18:41, Michael Blake  wrote:
>> 
>> I only received two customer responses and they both confirmed what I am 
>> seeing on my KX3.  I have forwarded the issue as a “bug” to Elecraft support.
>> 
>> Michael Blake
>> k9...@mac.com 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On Apr 30, 2016, at 10:36 AM, Michael Blake  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Has anyone else noticed this TX Noise Gate versus VOX Delay setting 
>>> interaction?
>>> 
>>> Michael Blake
>>> k9...@mac.com 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
 On Apr 29, 2016, at 7:08 PM, Michael Blake  wrote:
 
 When the TX Noise Gate is set to “On” with any gate level more than “00” 
 the VOX delay setting is ignored and the VOX drops out immediately.  Is 
 this by design?
 
 I am using MCU version 2.34 and DSP version 1.33
 
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