Re: [Elecraft] OT:. G5RV's

2016-08-04 Thread Wes Stewart
The tuner loss also depends on how it is adjusted. For example the very popular high-pass Tee with three adjustable elements has an infinite number of possible combinations that will effect a match on the same load Z. One of them is the lowest loss solution, all of the others aren't. As I

Re: [Elecraft] OT:. G5RV's

2016-08-04 Thread Wes Stewart
I guess a little discussion of semantics is in order. Yes, EZNEC shows for example, that a 12 AWG wire, 102' long and say 50' above avg ground shows an impedance of ~98 +j0 at 14.32 MHz, so it is resonant in the 20-meter band, because the reactance is zero, and it could be called a "resonant

Re: [Elecraft] OT:. G5RV's

2016-08-04 Thread Wes Stewart
I know handbook descriptions have declared this for years. They're simply wrong. The folded part is a transmission line, it doesn't radiate and it has an impedance different from the antenna. Why not just add a hundred feet or so of transmission line to a 10' dipole and call it a 160

Re: [Elecraft] OT:. 42 ft Vertical

2016-08-04 Thread Ron D'Eau Claire
42 feet is 5/8 wavelength on 20 meters. That is the longest vertical one can use before the radiation angle starts to rise above the horizon. Since operation on the lower bands (esp. 80 meters) wants the longest possible radiator, 42 feet is an excellent compromise for 80-20 operation (with proper

Re: [Elecraft] Trying wspr again with signalink and K3

2016-08-04 Thread Don Wilhelm
I would suggest that the WSPR audio is not reliably triggering the SignaLink PTT. The SignaLink uses the incoming audio to trigger the PTT. In other words, it is a VOX function inside the SignaLink box. You will have better success using the K3 VOX than trying to use the SignaLink vox (to

Re: [Elecraft] OT:. G5RV's

2016-08-04 Thread Don Wilhelm
Bill, That is correct, but the currents on the 33 feet feedline should be balanced and of opposite polarity - so they cancel. The current at the radiator center will be less than that of a full size 80 meter radiator, so it will be less efficient than a full size 80 meter dipole with the

Re: [Elecraft] Trying wspr again with signalink and K3

2016-08-04 Thread Bill Frantz
I use VOX for all digital modes. I started with a SignaLink, moved to a Tascam unit, and now I am using the KIO3B upgrade to the K3 to give it a USB port. VOX will work fine with any digital mode that does not vary the sound volume as a modulation technique. (I think all the common ones use

[Elecraft] Trying wspr again with signalink and K3

2016-08-04 Thread dw
Hi All, I have a signalink with USB to the k3. And I'd like to see if I can get it working with WSPR. Currently, I'm receiving data from the K3, via the Signalink into the software nicely. But not able to get WSPR to trigger the K3 PTT. Is anyone using the Signalink USB with WSPR, and perhaps

Re: [Elecraft] OT:. G5RV's

2016-08-04 Thread Don Wilhelm
Fred, Dirt was young when I was first licensed too. I do remember those days of link coils that you slowly advanced into the PA inductor and re-dipped the plate until the current draw was correct for the power level that you wanted to operate. Those were the days of plug-in coils for each

Re: [Elecraft] OT:. G5RV's

2016-08-04 Thread Edward R Cole
Jim and all: Interesting comments on the G5RV (I've never built one but have a local friend that uses one). For years I used wire dipoles on HF bands: I made a 80/40m trap dipole, 80/40m dipole with removable clip at 40m length which we call the "Iditarod Special" as it was simple to use at

Re: [Elecraft] KX Paddles

2016-08-04 Thread Eric Swartz - WA6HHQ, Elecraft
The CS40 is the smaller padded soft-case for the KX2 that is just a bit larger than the radio. http://store.lowepro.com/viewpoint-cs-40 The CS60 soft-case is about twice the internal volume as the CS40. http://store.lowepro.com/viewpoint-cs-60 73, Eric /elecraft.com/ On 8/4/2016 5:06 PM,

Re: [Elecraft] OT:. G5RV's

2016-08-04 Thread Fred Jensen
My EFHW [granted, it is technically only one half-wave on 80 m] got a pretty good write up in QST not long ago, after I had it installed, and he elevated the far end into a tree. While his review was pretty qualitative [:-(] which has become more common in QST these days, he still got the

Re: [Elecraft] OT:. G5RV's

2016-08-04 Thread Nr4c
Let's see, 102 + 33 = 135. Isn't that pretty close to the length of an 80 Meter Dipole? The G5RV looks like two back-to-back inverted "L" antennas. The twin lead is not feed line but part of the radiator. Sent from my iPhone ...nr4c. bill > On Aug 4, 2016, at 4:41 PM, Wes Stewart

Re: [Elecraft] OT:. G5RV's

2016-08-04 Thread Jim Brown
On Thu,8/4/2016 4:31 PM, Walter Underwood wrote: There is one efficient way to broaden an antenna’s frequency range—lower the Q. That is usually done with large-diameter elements. You can cover all of the 80 meter band with reasonable SWR using a “cage dipole”. That is what they do at W1AW.

Re: [Elecraft] OT:. G5RV's

2016-08-04 Thread Lynn W. Taylor, WB6UUT
What happens if the antenna is well above ground, away from any fences? On 8/4/2016 3:55 PM, Guy Olinger K2AV wrote: If we are just dodging the HOA, vs creating a remote site, or not operating at all, what you describe seems quite reasonable. One half wave on 80, two on 40, three on 30m, four

Re: [Elecraft] OT:. G5RV's

2016-08-04 Thread Don Wilhelm
Wes and all, Yes, the G5RV, the Off-Center-Fed antennas (Carolina Windom for one example) and the 43 foot vertical have become "magical" antennas, and I am not certain why. My best guess is that they are "salvation" for hams who want to operate on multiple bands with one antenna, and they

Re: [Elecraft] OT:. G5RV's

2016-08-04 Thread Elecraft K3
John, I think this is a reasonable conclusion. Early on I used a G5RV and it was invaluable reference for my later antenna building experience. I went to build doublets in the same space and I still keep an 80m doublet in the air. Recently I have gotten into building no compromise rotatable

Re: [Elecraft] OT:. G5RV's

2016-08-04 Thread Walter Underwood
There is one efficient way to broaden an antenna’s frequency range—lower the Q. That is usually done with large-diameter elements. You can cover all of the 80 meter band with reasonable SWR using a “cage dipole”. That is what they do at W1AW. At VHF/UHF, you may see bowtie antennas, which are

Re: [Elecraft] K3S with Internal ATU(KAT3A) and Remote ATU?

2016-08-04 Thread MaverickNH
Good learning here all, thanks. And Jim, very nice review of 43ft Verticals - thanks! Bret/KC1CJN -- View this message in context: http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/K3S-with-Internal-ATU-KAT3A-and-Remote-ATU-tp7621137p7621193.html Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com.

Re: [Elecraft] OT:. G5RV's

2016-08-04 Thread Guy Olinger K2AV
Hi Fred, Loss *anywhere* would broaden the antenna. Famously the B folded dipole, fed at the center of one wire, and terminated with an RF resistor at the center of the other, has for decades been serving commercial installations with widely separated operating frequencies not connected by any

Re: [Elecraft] OT:. G5RV's

2016-08-04 Thread Ron D'Eau Claire
When Varney created his G5RV in 1946 a great many Hams still operated on but one Ham band and parallel (open wire) transmission lines were still common. The 102-foot G5RV is a 1-1/2 wave center fed doublet at 14.15 MHz. According to one of my favorite wire antenna writers, (John Heys, G3BDQ

Re: [Elecraft] OT:. G5RV's

2016-08-04 Thread Fred Jensen
Ummm ... my HP48GX says 102' is very very close to 3 half-waves at 14 MHz which sounds sort of resonant-ish. Maybe a little known bug in my calculator? On a similar path, I decided to try out the 80-10 EFHW from MyAntennas as an HOA Stealth antenna strung along the top of a 6' fence. It's

Re: [Elecraft] OT:. G5RV's

2016-08-04 Thread John Frazier
Wes.. Over the years, immediately after a change in QTH, I have used the G5RV as an interim antenna. My personal experience is that it is a reasonable performer, as compared to a single band, resonant half-wave dipole, at the same height, fed by the same coax/length. While I certainly

Re: [Elecraft] KX Paddles

2016-08-04 Thread Tom Francis
Will do - thank you. Tom, W1TEF On 8/4/2016 5:27 PM, Eric Swartz - WA6HHQ, Elecraft wrote: Hi Tom - Before shipping the paddle, please make sure first to contact our support team via supp...@elecraft.com or on the phone to get a return Service Authorization (RSA) tracking number, return

Re: [Elecraft] KX Paddles

2016-08-04 Thread Eric Swartz - WA6HHQ, Elecraft
Hi Tom - Before shipping the paddle, please make sure first to contact our support team via supp...@elecraft.com or on the phone to get a return Service Authorization (RSA) tracking number, return instructions and our correct return shipping address information. That will speed its repair and

Re: [Elecraft] OT:. G5RV's

2016-08-04 Thread Joe Subich, W4TV
On 8/4/2016 4:41 PM, Wes Stewart wrote: > First, a 102' length is not resonant on 20-meters, so in common > jargon, it's *not* a 20-meter antenna, any more than any other random > length would be. *Not* true ... 102' is three half-waves on 20 meters: 984/2 * (3 -.05) / 14.15 = 102.6' Check

Re: [Elecraft] KX Paddles

2016-08-04 Thread Tom Francis
Wayne, I am constantly amazed at the quality Customer Service Elecraft provides it's customer base. How many people can say they got a reply from one of the guys who owns the company? Thank you very much - the paddles will be on their way tomorrow. Thanks for the information - I appreciate it.

Re: [Elecraft] KX Paddles

2016-08-04 Thread Marc Veeneman via Elecraft
> On Aug 4, 2016, at 3:37 PM, Wayne Burdick wrote: > > Hi Tom, > > Your KXPD2 should not have any issue with contact screws loosening over time. > Please return them for rework. Sorry about that. Mine arrived yesterday and I had to have Chris at Elecraft explain to me

Re: [Elecraft] OT:. G5RV's

2016-08-04 Thread Alan Bloom
> It's a pity that too many newcomers, as well as many oldsters, are > enamored by this piece of wire. The G4RV is definitely a compromise antenna. However its advantage is that is has low-enough SWR to be easily matched by most tuners on a number of bands. > ... the horrific losses that

Re: [Elecraft] OT:. G5RV's

2016-08-04 Thread Wes Stewart
In my 1999 paper, /"Balanced Transmission Line in Current Amateur Practice"/ (http://k6mhe.com/n7ws/Ladder_Line.pdf), published in the /ARRL Antenna Compendium, Volume 6, /pp 174-178, I have this statement: "A popular multiband wire antenna is the so-called G5RV. This antenna is rarely used as

Re: [Elecraft] KX Paddles

2016-08-04 Thread Wayne Burdick
Hi Tom, Your KXPD2 should not have any issue with contact screws loosening over time. Please return them for rework. Sorry about that. We needed a new paddle was for the KX2 because it's a much smaller radio. Some operators using a KXPD3 with the KX2 find that they have to hold the radio in

Re: [Elecraft] KX Paddles

2016-08-04 Thread Tom Francis
I have both, am primarily a CW operator and this is my impression. The KXPD2 has "issues" - at least for me. The contact posts keep loosening up - it doesn't matter how hard I tighten them (I'm afraid of over torquing the screws but they are snug), they loosen up. I tried non-hardening

Re: [Elecraft] KX Paddles

2016-08-04 Thread Kurt Cramer
Anyone have a KXPD3 for sale? $135 just seems too much. Kurt, W7QHD > On Aug 4, 2016, at 10:22 AM, Sid Frissell wrote: > > Well, I guess I've wrung all the opinions out of you re. KXPD 2 vs KXPD3. > Seems like the KXPD2 is preferred. > Thanks to all who commented

[Elecraft] OT:. G5RV's

2016-08-04 Thread Ken G Kopp
As usual, Jim is correct ... I have Lou Varney's original article. The G5RV was designed as a 20M --ONLY-- antenna. It's now achieved some kind of cult ... read voodoo ... status. (;-) If one has an antenna that is partially fed with balanced line that's then directly (!) spliced to a specific

Re: [Elecraft] Power has disappeared

2016-08-04 Thread Chris Kimball
Received the UPS shipping label today, 4 Aug. Package shipped. -- View this message in context: http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/Power-has-disappeared-tp7620735p7621178.html Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com.

Re: [Elecraft] K3S with Internal ATU(KAT3A) and Remote ATU?

2016-08-04 Thread Jim Brown
On Thu,8/4/2016 9:16 AM, Ignacy wrote: With 43 ft vertical a tuner at the base is critical to performance It is FAR more complicated than that. Antenna tuners provide a match between a transmitter and a feedline, or between an antenna and a feedline. Like antennas like the G5RV, a 43 ft

[Elecraft] KX Paddles

2016-08-04 Thread Sid Frissell
Well, I guess I've wrung all the opinions out of you re. KXPD 2 vs KXPD3. Seems like the KXPD2 is preferred. Thanks to all who commented on and off list. Sid, NZ7M Sent From Sid Frissell's iPad __ Elecraft mailing list Home:

Re: [Elecraft] 73CNC Knobs

2016-08-04 Thread Terry Schieler
I have both. Neither has ever been installed. Contact me direct please. Terry, W0FM My call at arrl dot net -Original Message- From: EricJ [mailto:eric.c...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, August 03, 2016 2:03 PM To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] 73CNC Knobs

Re: [Elecraft] KX3-> KXPA100=> KPA500 ... Can it be done?

2016-08-04 Thread Ron D'Eau Claire
It's covered in the KXPA100 owner's manual, page 18. 73, Ron AC7AC -Original Message- From: Elecraft [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of David F. Reed Sent: Wednesday, August 3, 2016 10:14 PM To: k...@yahoogroups.com; elecraft Reflector Subject: [Elecraft] KX3->

Re: [Elecraft] K3S with Internal ATU(KAT3A) and Remote ATU?

2016-08-04 Thread Ignacy
With G5RV you can extend the flat line to the shack and use KAT3 directly via 1:1 or 4:1 balun. Probably as good as the current choice. With 43 ft vertical a tuner at the base is critical to performance and KAT3 may in some cases be detrimental. Check the signal reports with both antennas. At my

Re: [Elecraft] [KX3] KX3-> KXPA100=> KPA500 ... Can it be done?

2016-08-04 Thread Don Wilhelm
KX3 to KXPA100 connections are covered well in the KXPA100 manual. Download from Elecraft if you do not yet have that manual. Connecting the KPA500 to the KXPA100 requires a cable from the KXPA100 PA KEY to the KPA500 PA KEY connector. Of course, you would also connect the coax, but that

Re: [Elecraft] KX3-> KXPA100=> KPA500 ... Can it be done?

2016-08-04 Thread Nr4c
Yes. Check the manual(s) on KXPA100 and ATU. Sent from my iPhone ...nr4c. bill > On Aug 4, 2016, at 1:13 AM, David F. Reed wrote: > > Looking for a little QRO in my alternate station... > > I would like to be able to run my KX3 into my KXPA100 amplifier, and that >