Re: [Elecraft] Checking VFO accuracy using WWV

2016-12-18 Thread Wes Stewart
By your "logic" a few weeks ago when my 100 W K3S started putting out zero watts it was still in spec, since there isn't any, Right? And if you want to open another can of worms let's talk about "typical" TX IMD. On 12/18/2016 10:22 PM, Jim Brown wrote: On Sun,12/18/2016 2:04 PM, Wes Stewart

Re: [Elecraft] Checking VFO accuracy using WWV

2016-12-18 Thread Jim Brown
On Sun,12/18/2016 2:04 PM, Wes Stewart wrote: If the manufacturer specifies that the transmitter puts out 100W, and indeed uses that as a part of the part number on the order sheet, then it's not unreasonable for the customer to expect 100 W out. The published spec is 100W typical, with no

Re: [Elecraft] Checking VFO accuracy using WWV

2016-12-18 Thread Ron D'Eau Claire
It all depends upon the accuracy of the test equipment, power supply, etc. Many commercial RF power meter/dummy load combos are no more than 20% accurate. Elecraft Tech support will help anyone who thinks the power output is low with those questions. A better analogy is a Lamborghini spec'd at

Re: [Elecraft] K3 Utility with Windows 10

2016-12-18 Thread Bill Johnson
I have a surface pro 3 and surface book and neither have issues to which you refer. 73, Bill K9YEQ -Original Message- From: Elecraft [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Ken Arck Sent: Sunday, December 18, 2016 5:57 PM To: Rick Braun ; Elecraft

Re: [Elecraft] K3 Utility with Windows 10

2016-12-18 Thread Barry
Rick, The K3 utility wants a com port to connect to, and that com port needs to be the same as the one for the radio. If you are using a USB adapter, it declares itself as a com port. Go into device manager and see which com port your adapter "thinks" it is, and make a note of it. Use

Re: [Elecraft] K3 Utility with Windows 10

2016-12-18 Thread Ken Arck
The issue with the Prolific chipset (or more accurately, the counterfeit driver issue) is well known and well documented as affecting Win 7 and later At 04:16 PM 12/18/2016, Nr4c wrote: Which KUSB? The older Prolific or the more recent FTDI? Different drivers. Sent from my iPhone ...nr4c.

Re: [Elecraft] (KX1) - Question of Power Modification Timing

2016-12-18 Thread stan levandowski
Don thank you for this rapid and complete answer.  I'm printing this email out to include with the KX1 documentation. I'll always be using either the internal AA cells or a dedicated 12VDC wall wart so I think I'll just install the mod now and avoid de-soldering.    73 and Seasons' greetings,

Re: [Elecraft] K3 Utility with Windows 10

2016-12-18 Thread Nr4c
Which KUSB? The older Prolific or the more recent FTDI? Different drivers. Sent from my iPhone ...nr4c. bill > On Dec 18, 2016, at 6:43 PM, Rick Braun wrote: > > I downloaded the latest K3 utility onto my Surface Pro 4 with Windows 10. My > K3 is serial 2869, with RS232

Re: [Elecraft] K3 Utility with Windows 10

2016-12-18 Thread Ken Arck
My Surface Pro sucks with driver compatibility issues so perhaps that is your proble. My "ham" computer runs Win 10, 64 bit and no problems at all connecting to the K3s with anything Ken At 03:43 PM 12/18/2016, Rick Braun wrote: I downloaded the latest K3 utility onto my Surface Pro 4

Re: [Elecraft] K3 Utility with Windows 10

2016-12-18 Thread tomb18
HiNo, it is not 64 vs 32 bit.First thing to do is open up the device manager and looking at the comport entry. Then  unplug the USB to serial device. One of the comport should disappear. Then plug it in.That will help determine if the port you are using is correct.Start with that. If you do not

Re: [Elecraft] K3S No TX Audio via USB

2016-12-18 Thread Don Wilhelm
John, Have you looked a Windows Mixer to see what the output level of the USB Codec in the K3 might be set at? Set it to about 75% of full volume. I don't know what is different about WJST than other data modes, I just know that there have been many more posts on the reflector about it. It

Re: [Elecraft] K3 Utility with Windows 10

2016-12-18 Thread Don Wilhelm
Rick, All Windows 10 versions are not created equal. If you have a Win10 full size computer, try it on that. I have not had any problem with Win10 on either my laptop or my desktop computers. On 12/18/2016 6:43 PM, Rick Braun wrote: I downloaded the latest K3 utility onto my Surface Pro 4

Re: [Elecraft] Posting serial numbers

2016-12-18 Thread Ken Talbott
If the rig has an unknown pedigree (passed through many flea market sales) omitting the last few digits helps prevent unpleasant knocks on the door from officers wishing to retrieve stolen property. Ken ke4rg -Original Message- From: Elecraft [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On

Re: [Elecraft] Posting serial numbers

2016-12-18 Thread Don Wilhelm
All, The serial number of a transceiver offered for sale is an important parameter, and because the upgrade kits are offered by Elecraft, the state of those upgrades that have been installed is also important to the potential buyer. The rig's serial number for For Sale listings is important

[Elecraft] K3 Utility with Windows 10

2016-12-18 Thread Rick Braun
I downloaded the latest K3 utility onto my Surface Pro 4 with Windows 10. My K3 is serial 2869, with RS232 to USB adapter cable. I downloaded the driver indicated on the Elecraft site. Problem: I cannot, for the life of me, get the radio to connect to the computer. Could this be a 32 bit

Re: [Elecraft] (KX1) - Question of Power Modification Timing

2016-12-18 Thread Don Wilhelm
Stan, The information in the Power Mod instructions is correct. SOME KX1s have lower power output than others due to component tolerances. Ni some cases, this becomes more of a problem with the KXB3080 installation. I would not arbitrarily install those resistors. Install the KXB3080

[Elecraft] (KX1) - Question of Power Modification Timing

2016-12-18 Thread stan levandowski
I'm building my second fully optioned KX1.  I built one a few years ago with no problem and it was great. I sold it when I bought a KX3.   I missed it so much I just bought myself another one.  But I could use some advice because something doesn't make sense to me. I opened the 30/80 meter

[Elecraft] OT: S/N sillyness

2016-12-18 Thread Ken G Kopp
I own the following: K2 #5665 K3 #56 P3 #56 73! Ken Kopp - K0PP __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list

Re: [Elecraft] Checking VFO accuracy using WWV

2016-12-18 Thread Wes Stewart
I totally disagree. If the manufacturer specifies that the transmitter puts out 100W, and indeed uses that as a part of the part number on the order sheet, then it's not unreasonable for the customer to expect 100 W out. That's like buying a Lamborghini Huracan LP 610-4 and discovering that

Re: [Elecraft] Posting serial numbers

2016-12-18 Thread Alan Bloom
On 12/18/2016 01:13 PM, Kevin - K4VD wrote: I don't know what someone could do with the serial number of a radio but who knows these days. That and your date of birth might get all your bank accounts hacked. (just kidding) It's probably not a good idea to use your rig's serial number as a

Re: [Elecraft] Sync AM and checking VFO accuracy using WWV

2016-12-18 Thread Ken Arck
I calibrate all my rigs with the WWV/spectrum display software method and it's never gotten me in trouble! From my K3s to my TS2000 to my FTDX3000, they all are dead nuts on thanks to this easiest of methods! Ken At 01:22 PM 12/18/2016, ab2tc wrote: Hi, Boy, this thread is now incredibly

Re: [Elecraft] Posting serial numbers

2016-12-18 Thread Paul Van Dyke
Alan, according to my memory at least on the KX2 and the KX3 it is the serial number is build into the programming it's in the menu) I can't remember if it is on the K3 but trying to change that seriall number would be really rough Paul ...KB9AVO On Dec 18, 2016 2:14 PM, "Alan Bloom"

Re: [Elecraft] Sync AM and checking VFO accuracy using WWV

2016-12-18 Thread ab2tc
Hi, Boy, this thread is now incredibly long and I am not sure it if I want to risk sticking my neck out with another entry. But I will. There has been an intense debate for at least the past 8 years as to what constitutes the "best" way to adjust the reference oscillator to the best accuracy.

Re: [Elecraft] Posting serial numbers

2016-12-18 Thread Kevin - K4VD
​It might be that the first few numbers kind of indicates the series or age of the device. This seems common when selling many things. It probably isn't a secret. I don't know what someone could do with the serial number of a radio but who knows these days. That and your date of birth might get

Re: [Elecraft] Sync AM and checking VFO accuracy using WWV

2016-12-18 Thread Bill Frantz
Not having a Windows machine, I tried using both fldigi and cocoaModem which have waterfall displays. Both provided usable results. Getting close with the computer display and then zero beating using the procedure in the manual will probably be the best approach. 73 Bill AE6JV On 12/16/16

Re: [Elecraft] Posting serial numbers

2016-12-18 Thread Matt Zilmer
Maybe they're not sure and don't wan to pull the rig out to take a look? 73, matt W6NIA On 12/18/2016 12:12 PM, Alan Bloom wrote: Forwarded Message Subject: [Elecraft] P3 For Sale Date: Sun, 18 Dec 2016 13:10:36 -0500 From: Joe Word To:

Re: [Elecraft] Sync AM and checking VFO accuracy using WWV

2016-12-18 Thread Fred Jensen
There are a myriad of ways to do it if you're interested, however don't underestimate the accuracy you can achieve with your ears and ability to count when you get the levels equalized. If you count 6 noise peaks in 60 sec, you're within 0.1 Hz. Something that hasn't been mentioned [and that

[Elecraft] Posting serial numbers

2016-12-18 Thread Alan Bloom
Forwarded Message Subject: [Elecraft] P3 For Sale Date: Sun, 18 Dec 2016 13:10:36 -0500 From: Joe Word To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net > For Sale Serial number 36xx. ... I've noticed that people almost never list a full serial number when posting

Re: [Elecraft] Checking VFO accuracy using WWV

2016-12-18 Thread Fred Jensen
One part of Amateur Radio is transmitting and receiving. Another part of Amateur Radio is design and construction of equipment. Yet another is delving into the concepts of doing things with available equipment/methods. Traffic handling was once a big activity ... think "American Radio RELAY

Re: [Elecraft] Sync AM and checking VFO accuracy using WWV

2016-12-18 Thread Mel Farrer via Elecraft
While all of the methods using WWV are excellent, many of us already have the GPS downloaded 10 MHz signal for the shop and ham shack.  I mentioned some time about using a Video distribution amplifier to pipe the 10 MHz signal around.  I have it at the operating console for any checks I need. 

Re: [Elecraft] Sync AM and checking VFO accuracy using WWV

2016-12-18 Thread Ron D'Eau Claire
The methods described by Wayne in the K3 or K3S Owner's manuals are excellent. I used Method 2 (comparing to WWV's carrier frequency) and easily achieve less than 1 Hz accuracy. If one needs something in the tenth's of a Hz or better then more exotic techniques are required (and likely the

Re: [Elecraft] marc.info

2016-12-18 Thread ab2tc
Hi Phil and all, It's not unprecedented. They have had outages before lasting days. I am aware of the other alternatives (they are all on Elecraft's home page). But I prefer the marc archive. AB2TC - Knut Phil Wheeler-2 wrote > No, Knut. I just looked: Rather ominous. > > There other

Re: [Elecraft] Sync AM and checking VFO accuracy using WWV

2016-12-18 Thread Brendon Whateley
Depending on why you want the accuracy, I think you could improve things by building a phase comparator to "listen" to the radio output frequency against a local reference. That would allow you to get much closer than using your ears as a phase detector. That should get you accuracy of a few % of

Re: [Elecraft] marc.info

2016-12-18 Thread Phil Wheeler
For clarification, Knut refers to this archive: http://marc.info/?l=elecraft which I've found quite useful. Phil W7OX On 12/18/16 9:35 AM, ab2tc wrote: Hi all, Does anybody know what's up with marc.info? There have been no posts in three days. AB2TC - Knut

Re: [Elecraft] marc.info

2016-12-18 Thread Nr4c
??? Sent from my iPhone ...nr4c. bill > On Dec 18, 2016, at 12:35 PM, ab2tc wrote: > > Hi all, > > Does anybody know what's up with marc.info? There have been no posts in > three days. > > AB2TC - Knut > > > > -- > View this message in context: >

Re: [Elecraft] marc.info

2016-12-18 Thread Phil Wheeler
No, Knut. I just looked: Rather ominous. There other archives such as http://mailman.qth.net/pipermail/elecraft/ though I tend to use the marc archive. Phil W7OX On 12/18/16 9:35 AM, ab2tc wrote: Hi all, Does anybody know what's up with marc.info? There have been no posts in three days.

[Elecraft] P3 For Sale

2016-12-18 Thread Joe Word
For Sale Elecraft P3-F factory built panadapter with optional P3SVGA adapter for computer monitor use. No scratches and has not been around tobacco smoke. Serial number 36xx. Comes with original box, manual and cable set (2 power cables (from P3 or from power supply), RF cable and data cable).

Re: [Elecraft] Checking VFO accuracy using WWV

2016-12-18 Thread Emory Schley
Hi Guys;   I really don't mean to show my ignorance, but all this talk about calibration and power out is good up to a point, but if your signal is off the mark by a couple Hertz, does it really make any REAL WORLD difference? Even when running PSK31 surely you can be off the "beam" a Hertz or

Re: [Elecraft] Checking VFO accuracy using WWV

2016-12-18 Thread Nr4c
Chirps? Mine is more like a slow "whump whump whump", not a chirp. Sent from my iPhone ...nr4c. bill > On Dec 18, 2016, at 7:40 AM, K9ZTV wrote: > > The R.L. Drake Company referred to the zeroing or beating indicators as > "canary chirps," the goal being to slow the

Re: [Elecraft] KPA500 Question

2016-12-18 Thread Nr4c
What is your antenna like on 20 meters? Sounds more like antenna than amp. Sent from my iPhone ...nr4c. bill > On Dec 18, 2016, at 6:08 AM, Joe Hutchens AJ8MH-Radio > wrote: > > This is a question I've been wanting to ask... > > I've had a KPA500 for 4 years and

[Elecraft] marc.info

2016-12-18 Thread ab2tc
Hi all, Does anybody know what's up with marc.info? There have been no posts in three days. AB2TC - Knut -- View this message in context: http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/marc-info-tp7624763.html Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com.

Re: [Elecraft] Checking VFO accuracy using WWV

2016-12-18 Thread Brian Denley
Thanks to all for the explanations. Brian Denley KB1VBF Sent from my iPad > On Dec 18, 2016, at 8:46 AM, brian wrote: > > Expectations may be too high. > > All these WWV methods assume there is no Doppler shift present on the WWV > signal. Other things to consider:

[Elecraft] KPA500 Question

2016-12-18 Thread Wim Dewilder via Elecraft
I have the same 'issue' on 20m my SWR on the hustler 6BTV is 1.4but when I operate on that band the internal temperature seems to risemuch faster than other bands and I eventually get a fault. On 40m I have similar SWR on the digital frequencies and there I don't havean issue what so ever. I

Re: [Elecraft] KPA500 Question

2016-12-18 Thread AJ8MH-Radio.Joe.Hutchens
My antenna is a TA-33-M-WARC. It's flat around 14.150, but goes up fast as you head toward .350. I have an FT-950 and FTDX-3000, and both need increased drive to get me to 500 watts. More concerned about the fault at 1.4:1. Although the two could be related. Anyway, the auto tuner handles

Re: [Elecraft] Macro command question

2016-12-18 Thread John Klewer
I figured out my error Please disregard JK On Sat, Dec 17, 2016 at 10:15 PM, John Klewer wrote: > Learning how to do the macro thing with my K3Sperhaps it is just too > late at night but I cannot seem to find a reference to the command to set > "Line In" level > >

[Elecraft] KPA500 Question

2016-12-18 Thread john
I think requiring a different drive level is normal for most amplifiers. The K3S is the only transceiver that I have owned where the output can be set differently for each band, which is wonderful. My KPA-500 is pretty tolerant of SWR 2:1 or less however that may depend on the load type. What is

Re: [Elecraft] Checking VFO accuracy using WWV

2016-12-18 Thread brian
Expectations may be too high. All these WWV methods assume there is no Doppler shift present on the WWV signal. Other things to consider: TCXO drift, synthesizer limitations and new synthesizer quirks. During disturbed times, Doppler could be 1 Hz or more. Unfortunately, the Doppler

Re: [Elecraft] KPA500 Question

2016-12-18 Thread Don Wilhelm
Joe, The gain of any amplifier will not be constant across all bands. If you are driving with the K3, there is a per band power setting so you can compensate. See page 27 of the K3 manual. 73, Don W3FPR On 12/18/2016 6:08 AM, Joe Hutchens AJ8MH-Radio wrote: This is a question I've been

Re: [Elecraft] Sync AM and checking VFO accuracy using WWV

2016-12-18 Thread Don Wilhelm
Brian, The higher the WWV frequency, the possible percentage of error goes down. One or two Hz is a smaller fraction of 20MHz than at 5MHz. In the K3, you are calibrating the reference (out of the synthesizer) rather than calibrating the actual VFO frequency. The actual VFO frequency is

Re: [Elecraft] Checking VFO accuracy using WWV

2016-12-18 Thread K9ZTV
The R.L. Drake Company referred to the zeroing or beating indicators as "canary chirps," the goal being to slow the "chirping" until there was a steady tone indicating you were then dead-on. I still find that the most descriptive way to tell someone how to identify the pulsing when doing the

[Elecraft] KPA500 Question

2016-12-18 Thread Joe Hutchens AJ8MH-Radio
This is a question I've been wanting to ask... I've had a KPA500 for 4 years and I've noticed that 20 meters requires more drive. Most bands require 30 watts or less, but 20 requires 35-37 for 500 watts out. In the phone portion of 20, an SWR of 1.4:1 WILL cause a fault. It's just real