Re: [Elecraft] Will there be a K4

2019-03-25 Thread Jim Brown
On 3/24/2019 4:39 PM, John Stengrevics wrote: Cardinal rule of business: New products, new products, new products. Also a great way to go out of biz, getting rolled over by much bigger companies with much higher volume. Wayne and Eric know their place in the ham market -- indeed, they have

Re: [Elecraft] Why not a KX4?

2019-03-25 Thread Steve Sergeant
My wish list for the KX3 would be to serve as K2 replacement, price/performance wise. While I could list some UI and under-the-hood improvements, and I agree with Tony's suggestion below, I want to make a form-factor suggestion. I'm imagining the KX3 repackaged so that it can be used alone as a

Re: [Elecraft] Will there be a K4?

2019-03-25 Thread Richards
RIGHT ON, Mr. Wayne  !! Good answer. K8JHR On 3/25/2019 9:33 PM, Wayne Burdick wrote: Of course. But we’re not going to tell everyone about our secret fishing spots. This particular pond just happens to be in a very public place. One where

[Elecraft] Why not a KX4?

2019-03-25 Thread Tony Estep
Actually the KX3 is pretty hard to improve, but the one obvious consideration is that the internal batteries should be LiPo. Another possibility would be a different way to generate the oscillator freq to ensure super-stability; even after the refrigerator procedure mine drifts -3 or -4 Hz in a

[Elecraft] New Product and K4 Suggestions

2019-03-25 Thread Mike Lichtman via Elecraft
In reading the K4 product suggestions posted so far, noise blanker/noise elimination seems to be a common thread. I have written in the past about the need for improvement in the NB and NR on my KX3. I would like to see Elecraft come out with a really affective noise reduction unit (can be

Re: [Elecraft] Will there be a K4

2019-03-25 Thread rich hurd WC3T
Selfishly, that’s why I continued to study for the Extea Class. Then I went and really blew it by becoming a MARS operator. ;) On Mon, Mar 25, 2019 at 23:10 Byron Servies wrote: > I am that ham. Once or twice a year, in the heat of the chase and > spinning the dial, I blow it, and hate

Re: [Elecraft] Will there be a K4

2019-03-25 Thread Byron Servies
I am that ham. Once or twice a year, in the heat of the chase and spinning the dial, I blow it, and hate myself for months after. The real solution is for me to finally bother to study for and pass Extra, but still, that would be a tremendous feature for other fools like me. 73, Byron N6NUL On

Re: [Elecraft] K4?

2019-03-25 Thread Byron Servies
I adore my Grey Line system, and still have a few XVs here to complete. I understand it is technically inferior to my K-Line, but I enjoy it more. The K1's receiver, in particular, is delightful. A K2S would be tremendous, even if the instructions involved a toaster oven (which I use often for

Re: [Elecraft] Will there be a K4?

2019-03-25 Thread Kenneth P Alexander
Repeat customers and customer loyalty are the foundations of any successful business. Their word of mouth recommendations are pure gold to any manufacturer, so engaging them in these discussions costs little and pays big dividends. >From what I have read, many of the wish list items are features

Re: [Elecraft] Will there be a K4

2019-03-25 Thread Wayne Burdick
> On Mar 25, 2019, at 12:50 PM, Gary Peterson wrote: > > In the past few years, I have thought of a couple of desirable features that > should be fairly easy to implement in a modern transceiver ... being able to > program “transmit enable” for the amateur bands with one’s >

Re: [Elecraft] K4?

2019-03-25 Thread Wayne Burdick
> On Mar 25, 2019, at 6:10 PM, Bill Frantz wrote: > > Any radio that has a screen should also support external screens. Then people > can configure their stations as space and interest dictate. Agreed. And if it were on my desk, I'd want it to be HDMI, supported by the widest range of

Re: [Elecraft] K4?

2019-03-25 Thread Wayne Burdick
You don't always have a manual around, or internet access. IMHO, a radio with a large LCD should have at least a subset of the owner's manual built-in, with topic search (via both a scrolling TOC and keyboard) as well as context-sensitive help (e.g., "touch any control for information on what

Re: [Elecraft] Will there be a K4

2019-03-25 Thread Wayne Burdick
Me either. Wayne > On Mar 25, 2019, at 7:02 PM, Doug Person wrote: > > If the FT8 program is running on a separate "loosely coupled" computer that > is internal, I don't see a problem. > > Doug --KJ0F __ Elecraft mailing list

Re: [Elecraft] Will there be a K4

2019-03-25 Thread Doug Person
If the FT8 program is running on a separate "loosely coupled" computer that is internal, I don't see a problem. Doug --KJ0F On 3/25/2019 3:59 PM, Fred Jensen wrote: Ummm ... I think there are two issues here: The algorithms, coding, and modulation schemes for transmitting and receiving what

Re: [Elecraft] K4?

2019-03-25 Thread Doug Person
Reading the manual in order to learn how to use a complex radio shouldn't be an obstacle. I'm not familiar with "Hidden mouse moves" in Windows. There are 3 buttons and a scroll wheel. They each  have very well-defined functions. Doug -- KJ0F On 3/25/2019 3:21 PM, Dave New, N8SBE wrote: I

Re: [Elecraft] Garage door interference

2019-03-25 Thread James Bennett via Elecraft
Last time I had issues with the garage door having a mind of it’s own when i was on the air, I resolved it by simply placing a few mix 31 ferrites on the control wires. Couple at the door opener box on the ceiling and a couple more by the wired transmitter on the garage wall. That cured it,

Re: [Elecraft] Will there be a K4?

2019-03-25 Thread Kevin der Kinderen
(I learned this is Business 101.) ;-) Let us know how you do in Business 102. [kidding, couldn't resist] 73, Kev K4VD On Mon, Mar 25, 2019 at 9:08 PM Richards wrote: > Mr. Eric, perhaps you are fishing in the wrong pond ... > > To coin a phrase: Ask not why some hams buy your

Re: [Elecraft] Will there be a K4?

2019-03-25 Thread Wayne Burdick
Of course. But we’re not going to tell everyone about our secret fishing spots. This particular pond just happens to be in a very public place. One where we get nibbles on every cast. 73, Wayne N6KR elecraft.com > On Mar 25, 2019, at 6:07 PM, Richards wrote: > > Mr. Eric, perhaps

Re: [Elecraft] Garage door interference

2019-03-25 Thread K9MA
All I did when mine had this problem is to wrap each wire entering the opener around a ferrite core a few times. That included the power cord, the wires to the switches, etc. I think there were 3 cores: one for the power cord, one for the switch wires, and one the light light sensor.

Re: [Elecraft] K4?

2019-03-25 Thread Bill Frantz
I have a display area 8.5" by 5.25" HDMI etc. display from Adafruit (about $160 or sl) which draws 403mA. I haven't tried it on the P3 yet, but it might work if the P3 will support its resolution. Any radio that has a screen should also support external screens. Then people can configure

Re: [Elecraft] Will there be a K4?

2019-03-25 Thread Richards
Mr. Eric,  perhaps you are fishing in the wrong pond ... To coin a phrase:   Ask not why some hams buy your radios - ask why all the others do not. Asking members of this group who are pleased with your products is misplaced.   Instead, you should poll those who recently purchased, or who

Re: [Elecraft] OT: P3 with P3TXMON for sale

2019-03-25 Thread Keith Ennis via Elecraft
SOLD pending funds.  Thanks Sam! Keith __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net

Re: [Elecraft] Garage door interference

2019-03-25 Thread Thorpe, Jeffrey
Details on just what you did to make this happen would be very interesting... Jeff - KG7HDZ > On Mar 25, 2019, at 5:26 PM, hawley, charles j jr > wrote: > > I did. Put a .1uF ceramic at the door opener across the connection of the > wires going to the button by the kitchen door that operates

Re: [Elecraft] Garage door interference

2019-03-25 Thread hawley, charles j jr
I did. Put a .1uF ceramic at the door opener across the connection of the wires going to the button by the kitchen door that operates the garage door. Assuming your opener is like mine... Get Outlook for iOS From:

[Elecraft] Garage door interference

2019-03-25 Thread Tom Doligalski via Elecraft
A while ago someone posted about putting a capacitor across the garage door opener to keep EMI out. Well, I just successfully opened mine using my KPA500 on 40M. Can someone repost? I really don’t want to search back through the dozens of K4 posts! Tom W4KX Sent from my iPad

Re: [Elecraft] Will there be a K4

2019-03-25 Thread Eric Swartz - WA6HHQ, Elecraft
Folks - Let's end the "Will there be a K4?" , "Touchscreen" and related threads now. Very interesting suggestions and comments, but we are wy past the reasonable number of allowed posts on a topic :-) . I was tied up most of the day here and just now got back on reading my email.   Wow!

[Elecraft] The case against touch screens

2019-03-25 Thread Dauer, Edward
Me too. I never thought of it as low capacitance fingers, but I avoid gas stations whose pumps I know require touch entries for zip codes, in contrast to those with a key pad. As for aircraft, I have no experience in the military but long experience in GA proves right what Wayne said in

[Elecraft] Desired K4 features

2019-03-25 Thread Stanley Fraley
I also am interested in having I/Q output in a K4, or as a mod for a K3S/P3. I currently use a separate receiver, SDR I/Q, fed from the receiving antenna connection on a K3 with a preamp to account for signal losses. I used this arrangement from American Samoa as single person DX/Vacation

Re: [Elecraft] The case against touch screens

2019-03-25 Thread W2xj
With proper forethought, they can. Proper location of ‘buttons’ on the screen and an overlay template could provide enough tactual feedback. Sent from my iPad > On Mar 25, 2019, at 12:02 PM, Don Wilhelm wrote: > > Touch screens do not provide support for blind amateur operators. Elecraft >

Re: [Elecraft] Will there be a K4

2019-03-25 Thread Richard Eversole
Touch screens on something in the K3 form factor are of little use... Also own 7100 and that screen is troublesome to use and makes me wish I had gone with K3X and another separate 2m/440 FT8 mode would mean many firmware updates plus not clear how you get all the useful display information... it

Re: [Elecraft] K4? voice recognition

2019-03-25 Thread Bill Johnson
Voice recognition to instruct menu changes? WOWzer. 73, Bill K9YEQ https://wrj-tech.com/ -Original Message- From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net On Behalf Of Kevin der Kinderen Sent: Monday, March 25, 2019 1:19 PM To: Elecraft Reflector Reflector Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K4? voice

Re: [Elecraft] Will there be a K4

2019-03-25 Thread Edward R Cole
Page Two: of my K4 ideas. After writing my last post on this topic, it dawned on me the K3 architecture already uses a separate screen box which is the P3. So just expand that to being a touch screen controller with P3 embedded. Then its a option for those that want one. Main radio

Re: [Elecraft] Will there be a K4?

2019-03-25 Thread Bill Johnson
How about built-in network remote capability with KPA1500? 72 & 73, Bill K9YEQ FT'er for K2, KX1, KX3, KXPA100, KAT500, W2, etc. -Original Message- From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net On Behalf Of Dauer, Edward Sent: Sunday, March 24, 2019 9:13 PM To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net

Re: [Elecraft] Will there be a K4

2019-03-25 Thread W2xj
It is easy to run FT8 or other digital modes on a Raspberry PI. Very inexpensive and very small. Sent from my iPad > On Mar 25, 2019, at 6:11 PM, Jim Brown wrote: > >> On 3/25/2019 1:55 PM, Raymond Sills via Elecraft wrote: >> I'm sure that having FT8 as a choosable mode in a K4 would be a

Re: [Elecraft] Will there be a K4

2019-03-25 Thread Jim Brown
On 3/25/2019 1:55 PM, Raymond Sills via Elecraft wrote: I'm sure that having FT8 as a choosable mode in a K4 would be a popular idea. I think it's a terrible idea, if for no other reason that Joe Taylor's modes have always evolved over the years to make them better. Also, it's trivially easy

Re: [Elecraft] K4?

2019-03-25 Thread Doug Turnbull
Wayne, Upgradeable, God I like Elecraft and might I add modular is also very nice so that one can gradually grow the rig to meek pocketbook and needs. 73 Doug EI2CN -Original Message- From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On

Re: [Elecraft] Will there be a K4

2019-03-25 Thread Fred Jensen
Ummm ... I think there are two issues here: The algorithms, coding, and modulation schemes for transmitting and receiving what has come to be known as FT8, and separately, the source code to implement all of that.  The second is subject to the terms of the GPL V3 license, the first would not

Re: [Elecraft] Will there be a K4

2019-03-25 Thread Raymond Sills via Elecraft
Hi Neil: I haven't read the fine print of the various software licenses, but it seems to me that FT8 is a "digital mode" and it might possibly be able to generate FT8 compatible reception and transmission in multiple ways.Or, it might be possible to include a tiny linux computer inside a K4,

Re: [Elecraft] K4?

2019-03-25 Thread Mark Petiford via Elecraft
RE:  "What is most desirable when combining analog controls and digital interfaces is the ability to assign functions to various switches and buttons..." EXCELLENT, Doug!!!  The best of both worlds! In the aircraft world, both pilots have several multi-display screens, each with an array of

Re: [Elecraft] K4?

2019-03-25 Thread Tom
Hi, I agree the 7300 leaves a lot to be wanted for the touch screen. It's not the most intuitive. I too had to look in the manual to figure out how to change bands! On the other hand, the IC-7610 is much more intuitive most likely due to increased real-estate of the display. The menus for

Re: [Elecraft] K4?

2019-03-25 Thread Dave New, N8SBE
I agree. The radios I've seen with touch screens are a real compromise in usability. Either the screen is too small to be useful, or it is so big that many hard controls are sacrificed to avoid making the front panel too large. The worst are the PC-based interfaces, where all hard controls are

[Elecraft] K4 request

2019-03-25 Thread Charles Johnson via Elecraft
I use the K3’s sub receiver quite a bit. My request is the display on the K4 should have enough real estate to show the same information for the sub receiver that is now shown for the main receiver, such as band width, NR, NB, shift, lo cut, hi cut, and of course, frequency. Please, no more

Re: [Elecraft] K4? Voice commands

2019-03-25 Thread Doug Person
Mic for voice response is integrated into the radio. It is listening all the time. Wouldn't work otherwise. "Ellie, turn on the VOX" "I'm sorry Dave. You aren't paying attention. The VOX is already on..." Doug -- KJ0F On 3/25/2019 2:46 PM, Kidder, George wrote: I have a distorted vision of

Re: [Elecraft] The case against touch screens

2019-03-25 Thread Doug Person
Voice response. Voice modules have been available for various rigs for sometime. They don't listen and do what you ask. But they will read the S-meter, tell you what frequency/band you're one. It with be technically easy to build a small option box that would handle a voice interface. If a web

[Elecraft] Will there be a K4

2019-03-25 Thread Gary Peterson
In the past few years, I have thought of a couple of desirable features that should be fairly easy to implement in a modern transceiver: First, a “back” or “undo” button, not unlike an Internet browser. Each press would undo the previous control change. This could eliminate the pregnant

Re: [Elecraft] K4? Voice commands

2019-03-25 Thread Kidder, George
I have a distorted vision of the following: Your K4 is on SSB, tuned to the net you are checked into.  Your VOX is on - you forgot. Your K4 (VOX already activated)  "Ellie, turn on the VOX" At 13 other K4 stations, the speaker repeats "Ellie, turn on the VOX", and these 13 rigs respond by

Re: [Elecraft] K4?

2019-03-25 Thread Mark Petiford via Elecraft
RE:  "...They can also be replaced." ...and prices have come way down in the last 5 years or so. Mark, KE6BB On Monday, March 25, 2019, 8:52:33 AM PDT, Doug Person wrote: Modern screens last a long time and don't suffer nearly as much from burn-in. They can also be replaced.

Re: [Elecraft] K4?

2019-03-25 Thread Doug Person
Gze! That's exactly what I had in 1962! Doug -- KJ0F On 3/25/2019 12:52 PM, Bob McGraw K4TAX wrote: As and affluent high school kid,   I built my own 6DQ6 CW transmitter/crystal oscillator with most of the parts recovered from  junk TV sets.   And I bought a used S-38B receiver.   I was a

Re: [Elecraft] The case against touch screens

2019-03-25 Thread Mark Petiford via Elecraft
RE:  "...a large percentage of the time a touch screen does not respond to my finger." I thought it was just me!  I also have a problem with selecting the wrong thing, which is extremely time consuming and frustrating.  That is probably due to my essential tremors which have increased with

Re: [Elecraft] Will there be a K4

2019-03-25 Thread Doug Person
Even if it's just an application installed into an integrated computer? This would not be folding the source into other code. It's just installing it into a computer that happens to be inside another device. It wouldn't be firmware. It would be the same as when I run it on my Raspberry Pi.

Re: [Elecraft] K4?

2019-03-25 Thread Doug Person
It's actually very cheap to do. You could program a voice chip with an arduino or raspberry pi. It's more "should you" rather than "could you". And then consider people with a handicap. A voice option would be a God-send for the sight impaired and those with poor hand/eye coordination or who

Re: [Elecraft] The case against touch screens

2019-03-25 Thread Lynn W. Taylor, WB6UUT
The argument for is simple, and compelling for a company like Elecraft. I know that my KX3 has functions that were not even dreamed of when the front panel layout and silkscreen were finalized. They've cleverly added these modes and functions by "overloading" buttons -- push twice, push and

Re: [Elecraft] K4?

2019-03-25 Thread Doug Person
What is most desirable when combining analog controls and digital interfaces is the ability to assign functions to various switches and buttons. These can be arranged around the screen so that the control labels can be "soft" while the controls themselves are "hard". E.g., not everyone uses

Re: [Elecraft] The case against touch screens

2019-03-25 Thread David Christ
What I was thinking. But in addition let me add something else that would limit who could use it. I have a progressively worsening case of tremor in my hands. Grabbing a knob and turning it works fine but hitting a specific spot on a screen is a hit or miss operation. The finer the detail

Re: [Elecraft] K4?

2019-03-25 Thread Jim Brown
Things I would like to see in a K4: Fix the Pin One Problems on the I/O board and front panel mic input and ditch the transformers, which are not required if proper bonding is implemented in the station. Pure Signal. Greatly improved noise reduction. The best I've ever heard was

Re: [Elecraft] Will there be a K4

2019-03-25 Thread Richard Lamont
On 25/03/2019 00:14, Eric Swartz WA6HHQ - Elecraft wrote: > Inquiring minds want to know: > What would you all like to see as a “K4” ? Something like the Flex / Anan SDRs, but with RX performance to match the K3S. So maybe a 24-bit direct-sampling SDR, if such a thing is even possible, with a

Re: [Elecraft] The case against touch screens

2019-03-25 Thread Wes
Speaking of F22s, I got to see a demo of one at this weekend's airshow at DMAFB.  Also on hand were the USAF Thunderbirds.  I think there are a lot politicians who should have to attend one of these to see how tax money should be spent. I understand the gloves comment.  It's a PITA to have to

Re: [Elecraft] K4?

2019-03-25 Thread Grant Youngman
It is of some note that (except for a niggle here or there including the elimination of all possible noise — good luck with that) there hasn’t been much said about basic performance of the radio. That’s for good reason. I would like to see a feature that would eliminate all “shouting at the

Re: [Elecraft] OT: P3 with P3TXMON for sale

2019-03-25 Thread Keith Ennis via Elecraft
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Re: [Elecraft] OT: K144XV 2 meter internal module for sale.

2019-03-25 Thread Keith Ennis via Elecraft
Missing email:  nelasat (at) Yahoo (dot) com Elecraft P3, P3TXMON & DCHF-2000   Excellent condition.  Selling for $725 with free shipping.  Cleared check or MO. Can take PayPal if you want to pay.  73,  Keith, KV5J  Keith __ Elecraft

Re: [Elecraft] The case against touch screens

2019-03-25 Thread Al Lorona
I don't think you guys understood me. I shouldn't have veiled my concern with a tongue-in-cheek post. So I will be direct. I was referring to the physiological event of touching a screen with a finger. It must be just me, because a large percentage of the time a touch screen does not respond

Re: [Elecraft] The case against touch screens

2019-03-25 Thread Mark Petiford via Elecraft
RE:  You assume that touch screens are inherently unreliable. Try to convince and F22 pilot of that, or a 777 gunnery crew. You assume that aircraft with flat panel displays utilize touch screens.  The military aircraft I have worked (Design Engineering) that have flat panel displays do NOT

Re: [Elecraft] K4?

2019-03-25 Thread Jim Brown
Me too -- my first station was a surplus BC-459 Command set for 40M, modified and given to me by one of the hams in the club that taught me CW and radio theory, and an S38D receiver.  On a trip to Manhattan, my dad later bought me an ARC5  for 80M for which he paid about $15 from a shop on

Re: [Elecraft] K4?

2019-03-25 Thread W2xj
I’ve read a lot of interesting ideas relating mostly to features. Here are some cutting (or should I say bleeding) edge ideas. The most radical would be to eliminate linear amplification on transmit. Instead, go with a class E design and in DSP generate EER compatible signals. This is how very

Re: [Elecraft] Will there be a K4

2019-03-25 Thread Jim Brown
On 3/25/2019 6:15 AM, Morgan Bailey wrote: SO2R with out ground loop problems ..or Rock solid SO2R solution...for k3s or other radios. I have the MK2R+ and I want a better solution. Simple solution -- implement proper bonding in your station. Described here

Re: [Elecraft] K4?

2019-03-25 Thread Terry Schieler
Or, perhaps."Hey ELMER" ;o) Terry, WØFM -Original Message- From: Walter Underwood [mailto:wun...@wunderwood.org] Sent: Monday, March 25, 2019 12:38 PM To: Elecraft mail list Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K4? > On Mar 25, 2019, at 11:57 AM, Bert wrote: > > Voice interface is OK with

Re: [Elecraft] K4? voice recognition

2019-03-25 Thread Kevin der Kinderen
Yes... but did he say OK ELECRAFT first? On Mon, Mar 25, 2019 at 2:01 PM Ralph Parker wrote: > > I guess an audio response to your verbal instruction is possible... > > Except when the guy on the other end of your rag-chew says "QRT", and your > radio turns itself off. > > VE7XF > >

Re: [Elecraft] K4?

2019-03-25 Thread Peter Dougherty
I'm not a fan of touch screens personally. Never have been, never will be. I prefer transceivers with discrete controls. When the money became available for a top of the line transceiver it was down to two: K3 or Yaesu FTDX 5000. The only reason I bought the K3s at the time was the Yaesu was about

Re: [Elecraft] Will there be a K4

2019-03-25 Thread Edward R Cole
Re: K4 with touch-pad. Not all will want that. I suggest it made as and add-on accessory in matching cabinet and include spectrum display (of course). On the main radio a simple screen on/off switch to go from manual controls to touch-screen. Maybe it could do double-duty as remote panel

Re: [Elecraft] K4? voice recognition

2019-03-25 Thread Ralph Parker
I guess an audio response to your verbal instruction is possible... Except when the guy on the other end of your rag-chew says "QRT", and your radio turns itself off. VE7XF __ Elecraft mailing list Home:

Re: [Elecraft] K4?

2019-03-25 Thread Andy McMullin
No good for me. Our (electric) car is already called Ellie. Sent from my iPhone On 25 Mar 2019, at 17:37, Walter Underwood wrote: > > Instead of “Hey Siri!” we could say “Hey Ellie!” to our Elecraft gear. > > wunder > K6WRU > Walter Underwood > CM87wj

Re: [Elecraft] The case against touch screens

2019-03-25 Thread Wayne Burdick
We've always provided a host API that access to virtually 100% of the controls so voice interfaces can be designed for attached computers. This would be true even if we did a radio with a touch screen. And as I said earlier, the emphasis should be on hard controls for things used most often.

Re: [Elecraft] K4?

2019-03-25 Thread Peter Dougherty
Don't laugh--I'd pay good coin for that ability! (still love that movie, too) - pjd -Original Message- From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net On Behalf Of Wayne Burdick Sent: Monday, March 25, 2019 1:47 PM To: Walter Underwood Cc: Elecraft Reflector Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K4? Or

Re: [Elecraft] K4?

2019-03-25 Thread Bob McGraw K4TAX
As and affluent high school kid,   I built my own 6DQ6 CW transmitter/crystal oscillator with most of the parts recovered from  junk TV sets.   And I bought a used S-38B receiver.   I was a ham for 40 years before I obtained my Collins station. Many years and radios later, today there is a

Re: [Elecraft] K4?

2019-03-25 Thread Wayne Burdick
Or it could just listening all the time. It might be like that scene in the movie "Contact," where Jodie Foster hears E.T., rips off her headphones, then drives away from the VLA (exceeding the Government's posted speed limit) while shouting instructions to the guys in the lab. Jodie:

Re: [Elecraft] K4?

2019-03-25 Thread Buddy Brannan
Heh. News to me. I’ve been operating without displays for 31 years and change :-) Although, I admit, voice-activated interfaces don’t seem to be terribly compatible with rooms full of ops shouting “CQ contest” … > On Mar 25, 2019, at 1:31 PM, Bert wrote: > > You would still need some kind

Re: [Elecraft] K4?

2019-03-25 Thread Bert
I could only dream about Collins, living on the other side of the pond at that time! Bert VE3NR  (SM7BUR) On 3/25/2019 1:38 PM, Josh Fiden wrote: Wow! Guess I was living on the other side of the tracks! 73 Josh W6XU Sent from my mobile device On Mar 25, 2019, at 9:51 AM, W2xj wrote:

Re: [Elecraft] K4?

2019-03-25 Thread Walter Underwood
> On Mar 25, 2019, at 11:57 AM, Bert wrote: > > Voice interface is OK with household electronics but I doubt we'll see it > in our transceivers in the near future. Instead of “Hey Siri!” we could say “Hey Ellie!” to our Elecraft gear. wunder K6WRU Walter Underwood CM87wj

Re: [Elecraft] K4?

2019-03-25 Thread Josh Fiden
Wow! Guess I was living on the other side of the tracks! 73 Josh W6XU Sent from my mobile device > On Mar 25, 2019, at 9:51 AM, W2xj wrote: > > When I was in high school my first station was Collins S Line and a triband > beam on a 50 foot tower. Also, a Viking 500.

Re: [Elecraft] K4?

2019-03-25 Thread Wayne Burdick
Bert wrote: > > You would still need some kind of display to verify the voice instruction > or order to the radio, so one way or another you need something visual. > > I guess an audio response to your verbal instruction is possible, but nothing > you can see/verify after the fact. > > A

Re: [Elecraft] K4?

2019-03-25 Thread Bert
You would still need some kind of display to verify the voice instruction or order to the radio, so one way or another you need something visual. I guess an audio response to your verbal instruction is possible, but nothing you can see/verify after the fact. A screen of some kind seems to be

[Elecraft] OT: K144XV 2 meter internal module for sale.

2019-03-25 Thread Keith Ennis via Elecraft
K144XV 2 meter internal module.Working 100%. Only $265 shipped.  Keith, KV5J nelasat (at) yahoo (dot) com __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post:

Re: [Elecraft] K1 VFO problem - RESOLVED

2019-03-25 Thread Tom Johnson
Thanks, Don Wilhelm, your intuition was correct: I installed a 120pF capacitor at C12. When I replaced it with the correct 1200pF capacitor the frequency display worked! 73, Tom KQ7TJ Don Wilhelm wrote > Tom, > > Triple check C11 and C12 to be certain they are both 1200pF and that you > did

Re: [Elecraft] K4?

2019-03-25 Thread Victor Rosenthal 4X6GP
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Re: [Elecraft] K4?

2019-03-25 Thread Victor Rosenthal 4X6GP
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Re: [Elecraft] K4?

2019-03-25 Thread Wayne Burdick
> On Mar 25, 2019, at 9:57 AM, Bert wrote: > > Hi Phil, > > Voice interface is OK with household electronics but I doubt we'll see it > in our transceivers in the near future. The ham radio market is probably > too small to make this feature commercially viable. Again, dollars and cents! >

[Elecraft] K4?

2019-03-25 Thread Szabó István
Could only the front panel partially replaced with large colour screen? One could play computer games (attract the grandchildren), others watch IPTV when the bands are dead and finally the HAMs could control the current radio. There may be more than one option. Personally I like the mono

Re: [Elecraft] Will there be a K4

2019-03-25 Thread Neil Zampella
FWIW .. the FT8 code is not 'open source' it is under the General Public License v3.   According to the GPL v3 FAQ: "You cannot incorporate GPL-covered software in a proprietary system. The goal of the GPL is to grant everyone the freedom to copy, redistribute, understand, and modify a program.

[Elecraft] OT: P3 with P3TXMON for sale

2019-03-25 Thread Keith Ennis via Elecraft
Elecraft P3, P3TXMON & DCHF-2000  Excellent condition. Selling for $725 with free shipping. Cleared check or MO. Can take PayPal if you want to pay. 73, Keith, KV5J __ Elecraft mailing list Home:

Re: [Elecraft] K4?

2019-03-25 Thread Bert
Hi Phil, Voice interface is OK with household electronics but I doubt we'll see it in our transceivers in the near future. The ham radio market is probably too small to make this feature commercially viable. Again, dollars and cents! OMHO! Bert VE3NR On 3/25/2019 12:23 PM, Phil Hystad

Re: [Elecraft] K4?

2019-03-25 Thread Wayne Burdick
> On Mar 25, 2019, at 9:10 AM, Bert wrote: > > Touch screens are unavoidable! The trick is to provide a full complement of "hard" controls for functions accessed most frequently, "in the heat of battle," as they say, while leveraging the touch screen for its versatility. Touchable

Re: [Elecraft] K4?

2019-03-25 Thread W2xj
When I was in high school my first station was Collins S Line and a triband beam on a 50 foot tower. Also, a Viking 500. Sent from my iPad > On Mar 25, 2019, at 12:14 PM, Peter Spotts wrote: > > Yes, the economics can be brutal. But the investment gap was ever thus. I'm a > boomer who first

Re: [Elecraft] K4?

2019-03-25 Thread Phil Hystad via Elecraft
I believe many future electronic devices will not have a touch screen. They will have a voice interface. In fact, a number of devices in my home right now are voice operated and it seems to work just fine and this capability is improving rapidly in the industry. For example, my 2018 Toyota

Re: [Elecraft] K4?

2019-03-25 Thread Peter Spotts
Yes, the economics can be brutal. But the investment gap was ever thus. I'm a boomer who first learned of amateur radio when I was in junior high school. I wouldn't get my license until many years later. But I pored through Heathkit, Allied, and Lafayette catalogs and visited our local Henry

[Elecraft] Extra two iron cores in my KPA100 kit?

2019-03-25 Thread TI2/NA7U
On Assembly, Part II, pg 24, which caused me to sort out the powdered iron and ferrite cores. I have two T50- iron cores not mentioned in the instructions or part inventory. All other cores are present and accounted for. Sound familiar to anyone? 73, Casey, TI2/NA7U - Cloud Warmer Ham

Re: [Elecraft] K4?

2019-03-25 Thread Bert
Touch screens are unavoidable! Most future electronic devices will have have touch screens as I/O interface. You can wish whatever you want, but if the device/radio is not commercially viable, it will never happen, i.e. it always comes down to dollars and cents! BTW, the best device you have

[Elecraft] Paddle Recommendation

2019-03-25 Thread Macka Murrah via Elecraft
Need recommendation on paddle for K3S. Prefer something small, and I like the one on the KX2. Lee KV5M Sent from my iPhone __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help:

Re: [Elecraft] The case against touch screens

2019-03-25 Thread Don Wilhelm
Touch screens do not provide support for blind amateur operators. Elecraft has always said they will provide support for blind operators. I just wonder how touchscreens fit into that commitment. 73, Don W3FPR On 3/25/2019 11:18 AM, Buddy Brannan wrote: While those are certainly advantages,

Re: [Elecraft] Will there be a K4

2019-03-25 Thread Doug Person
The P3 is far superior to the spectrum display on the 7610? In what way? Are you sure you understand how to configure the 7610 display? Doug -- KJ0F On 3/25/2019 8:51 AM, K8TE wrote: I will visit a friend to operate his station again for the CQ WW WPX SSB Contest this coming weekend. We use

Re: [Elecraft] Will there be a K4

2019-03-25 Thread Doug Person
I think you misunderstand open source. Doug -- KJ0F On 3/25/2019 7:37 AM, rich hurd WC3T wrote: "integrated FT8" will never happen. If I'm not mistaken, FT8 is open source and incorporating that software with its licensing requirements could expose Elecraft to all sorts of exposure; as their

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