Re: [Elecraft] KX-3 TX current draw?

2020-05-08 Thread Victor Rosenthal
I think 1.6:1 is high for that kind of dummy load, if it's in good shape. 
Should be close to 1:1.
Anyway, you can't really say there is a problem unless you have a better match. 
Current draw is sensitive to mismatch.
-- 
Vic

On May 9, 2020 2:32:15 AM GMT+03:00, Drew Arnett  wrote:
>Walter,
>
>50 MHz TX constant 4 W carrier measures 13.53 V on DMM (outside the DC
>power plug), 13.3 V on KX3 meter, 2.9 A on KX3 meter and 1.6 to 1 VSWR
>on KX3 meter.  Microwave dummy load with BNC to N adapter.
>
>I didn't measure all of this when the rig was new, so have no baseline
>to know what is normal.  :-(
>
>Thanks,
>
>Drew
>n7da
>
>On Fri, May 8, 2020 at 11:19 PM Drew Arnett 
>wrote:
>>
>> What do you see for current draw on the KX-3?  Manual says 1 to 2 A
>typical.
>>
>> I'm seeing 3 A at less than full power on one band.  Yikes!  Makes me
>> wonder if the repair shop is open?  Elecraft website says hunkered
>> down and mostly work from home.
>>
>> Thanks and best regards,
>>
>> Drew
>> n7da
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Re: [Elecraft] KPA1500 and noise

2020-05-08 Thread Dave
Mine had noise on 80 meters. Elecraft sent me a load resistor to install in the 
power supply across the 50 VDC terminals. Knocked the birdies down to the noise 
floor. I also foo d there is a connection from the minus terminal to the 
chassis that was loose. 

Serial number 423 and it has been working fine since. 

Dave wo2x

Sent from my waxed string and tin cans. 

> On May 8, 2020, at 10:33 PM, Peter Hall  wrote:
> 
> I don't recall the details but have you read the posts by the Elecraft guys 
> some weeks ago related to excess noise and loose grounding nuts (on or near 
> the SO239 connectors if I recall correctly)?
> 
> My KPA1500 creates a tiny amount of additional noise on 6 m when switched to 
> "operate" but nothing discernible elsewhere.
> 
> 73, Peter.
> 
> -Original Message-
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> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] KPA1500 and noise
> 
> only one antenna hooked to it, and that’s a sommer XP808 log fed yagi.  No 
> switches.!
> 
> Ronnie W5SUM
> 
> -Original Message-
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> Sent: Friday, May 08, 2020 7:35 PM
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> Subject: RE: [Elecraft] KPA1500 and noise
> 
> Need more details on what your antenna system is and especially what is 
> connected to antenna 1 and 2 on the amp.
> Any antenna switches, etc.
> 
> Dave wo2x
> 
> 
> 
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> Subject: [Elecraft] KPA1500 and noise
> 
> Recently I have noticed that I have a very high noise lever at my QTH, which 
> I have never had.  Today as I was shutting down my station I turned off the
> KPA1500 first, and my noise dropped from S7 to S1 instantly.
> 
> I turned the Amp back on and the noise came back.  Have any of you ever 
> observed this?
> 
> Thanks in advance
> 
> Ronnie W5SUM
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Re: [Elecraft] KPA1500 and noise

2020-05-08 Thread Peter Hall
I don't recall the details but have you read the posts by the Elecraft guys 
some weeks ago related to excess noise and loose grounding nuts (on or near the 
SO239 connectors if I recall correctly)?

My KPA1500 creates a tiny amount of additional noise on 6 m when switched to 
"operate" but nothing discernible elsewhere.

73, Peter.

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To: rocke...@gmail.com; Elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] KPA1500 and noise

only one antenna hooked to it, and that’s a sommer XP808 log fed yagi.  No 
switches.!

Ronnie W5SUM

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From: rocke...@gmail.com
Sent: Friday, May 08, 2020 7:35 PM
To: w5...@comcast.net ; Elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: RE: [Elecraft] KPA1500 and noise

Need more details on what your antenna system is and especially what is 
connected to antenna 1 and 2 on the amp.
Any antenna switches, etc.

Dave wo2x



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Subject: [Elecraft] KPA1500 and noise

Recently I have noticed that I have a very high noise lever at my QTH, which I 
have never had.  Today as I was shutting down my station I turned off the
KPA1500 first, and my noise dropped from S7 to S1 instantly.

I turned the Amp back on and the noise came back.  Have any of you ever 
observed this?

Thanks in advance

Ronnie W5SUM

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Re: [Elecraft] K3 XMIT/TUNE button doesnt work

2020-05-08 Thread Don Wilhelm

Jorge,

I believe you have to replace the Button matrix pad.  Contact 
supp...@lcraft.com for more information and  guidance.


73,
Don W3FPR

On 5/8/2020 4:40 PM, Jorge Diez - CX6VM wrote:

hello

my K3 have a problem with this button. some weeks ago, I need to push it
hard to have it working.

Now doesnt work. Definitely is bad

Any idea how to fix that?  Hope is something easy I can solve locally

thanks!!

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Re: [Elecraft] KPA1500 and noise

2020-05-08 Thread Barry Simpson
Hi Ronnie

I do not have a KPA1500 (only a KPA500) but I recall seeing posts from time
to time about noise emanating from KPA1500's.

I think you will need to check in with Elecraft on the issue.

73

Barry  VK2BJ

On Sat, 9 May 2020 at 10:28,  wrote:

> Recently I have noticed that I have a very high noise lever at my QTH,
> which
> I have never had.  Today as I was shutting down my station I turned off
> the
> KPA1500 first, and my noise dropped from S7 to S1 instantly.
>
> I turned the Amp back on and the noise came back.  Have any of you ever
> observed this?
>
> Thanks in advance
>
> Ronnie W5SUM
>
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Re: [Elecraft] KPA1500 and noise

2020-05-08 Thread w5sum
only one antenna hooked to it, and that’s a sommer XP808 log fed yagi.  No 
switches.!


Ronnie W5SUM

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Sent: Friday, May 08, 2020 7:35 PM
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Subject: RE: [Elecraft] KPA1500 and noise

Need more details on what your antenna system is and especially what is
connected to antenna 1 and 2 on the amp.
Any antenna switches, etc.

Dave wo2x



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Subject: [Elecraft] KPA1500 and noise

Recently I have noticed that I have a very high noise lever at my QTH, which
I have never had.  Today as I was shutting down my station I turned off the
KPA1500 first, and my noise dropped from S7 to S1 instantly.

I turned the Amp back on and the noise came back.  Have any of you ever
observed this?

Thanks in advance

Ronnie W5SUM

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Re: [Elecraft] KPA1500 and noise

2020-05-08 Thread rocketnj
Need more details on what your antenna system is and especially what is
connected to antenna 1 and 2 on the amp.
Any antenna switches, etc.

Dave wo2x



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Sent: Friday, May 8, 2020 8:28 PM
To: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: [Elecraft] KPA1500 and noise

Recently I have noticed that I have a very high noise lever at my QTH, which
I have never had.  Today as I was shutting down my station I turned off the
KPA1500 first, and my noise dropped from S7 to S1 instantly.

I turned the Amp back on and the noise came back.  Have any of you ever
observed this?

Thanks in advance

Ronnie W5SUM 

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[Elecraft] KPA1500 and noise

2020-05-08 Thread w5sum
Recently I have noticed that I have a very high noise lever at my QTH, which 
I have never had.  Today as I was shutting down my station I turned off the 
KPA1500 first, and my noise dropped from S7 to S1 instantly.


I turned the Amp back on and the noise came back.  Have any of you ever 
observed this?


Thanks in advance

Ronnie W5SUM 


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Re: [Elecraft] KXPA100 for sale

2020-05-08 Thread John Zaruba Jr
The amp has been spoken for.

73,

John K2ZA

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[Elecraft] W2 WATT METER..

2020-05-08 Thread Bob Gibson via Elecraft
Thanks for all the replies..I have found my needs for the watt meter.. Be 
safe!!  

Bob W5RG












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Re: [Elecraft] KX-3 TX current draw?

2020-05-08 Thread Mooneer Salem
Hi Drew,

I got 2.36A current consumption @ 5W using a dummy load and the TX button
on 50.100MHz USB with my KX3 (S/N 3262). The voltage dropped from 13.74V to
13.67V during transmit. (Measured using an in-line Powerpole meter attached
between a 54Ah LiFePO4 battery and the KX3.) Hopefully this helps!

BTW, I had to recently redo TX calibration because I ended up doing a
factory reset while trying to re-run temperature compensation (long story),
so I'm not sure if this is any more or less indicative of "normal" power
consumption.

Thanks,

-Mooneer K6AQ

On Fri, May 8, 2020 at 4:34 PM Drew Arnett  wrote:

> Walter,
>
> 50 MHz TX constant 4 W carrier measures 13.53 V on DMM (outside the DC
> power plug), 13.3 V on KX3 meter, 2.9 A on KX3 meter and 1.6 to 1 VSWR
> on KX3 meter.  Microwave dummy load with BNC to N adapter.
>
> I didn't measure all of this when the rig was new, so have no baseline
> to know what is normal.  :-(
>
> Thanks,
>
> Drew
> n7da
>
> On Fri, May 8, 2020 at 11:19 PM Drew Arnett  wrote:
> >
> > What do you see for current draw on the KX-3?  Manual says 1 to 2 A
> typical.
> >
> > I'm seeing 3 A at less than full power on one band.  Yikes!  Makes me
> > wonder if the repair shop is open?  Elecraft website says hunkered
> > down and mostly work from home.
> >
> > Thanks and best regards,
> >
> > Drew
> > n7da
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Re: [Elecraft] KX-3 TX current draw?

2020-05-08 Thread Drew Arnett
Walter,

50 MHz TX constant 4 W carrier measures 13.53 V on DMM (outside the DC
power plug), 13.3 V on KX3 meter, 2.9 A on KX3 meter and 1.6 to 1 VSWR
on KX3 meter.  Microwave dummy load with BNC to N adapter.

I didn't measure all of this when the rig was new, so have no baseline
to know what is normal.  :-(

Thanks,

Drew
n7da

On Fri, May 8, 2020 at 11:19 PM Drew Arnett  wrote:
>
> What do you see for current draw on the KX-3?  Manual says 1 to 2 A typical.
>
> I'm seeing 3 A at less than full power on one band.  Yikes!  Makes me
> wonder if the repair shop is open?  Elecraft website says hunkered
> down and mostly work from home.
>
> Thanks and best regards,
>
> Drew
> n7da
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Re: [Elecraft] KX-3 TX current draw?

2020-05-08 Thread Walter Underwood
What voltage? What frequency?

It will pull more current at lower voltages. The power stages are less 
efficient at higher frequencies, especially 12m and up.

wunder
K6WRU
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> On May 8, 2020, at 4:19 PM, Drew Arnett  wrote:
> 
> What do you see for current draw on the KX-3?  Manual says 1 to 2 A typical.
> 
> I'm seeing 3 A at less than full power on one band.  Yikes!  Makes me
> wonder if the repair shop is open?  Elecraft website says hunkered
> down and mostly work from home.
> 
> Thanks and best regards,
> 
> Drew
> n7da
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[Elecraft] KX-3 TX current draw?

2020-05-08 Thread Drew Arnett
What do you see for current draw on the KX-3?  Manual says 1 to 2 A typical.

I'm seeing 3 A at less than full power on one band.  Yikes!  Makes me
wonder if the repair shop is open?  Elecraft website says hunkered
down and mostly work from home.

Thanks and best regards,

Drew
n7da
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[Elecraft] LP-PAN2 for sale

2020-05-08 Thread ab2tc
Hi all,

LP-PAN2 with K3 crystal (serial# 02777) for sale, asking $150 shipped
Priority Mail. Power cable included. Includes audio cable suitable for sound
card with 3.5mm TRS socket for audio, such as Asus U5, U7 and possibly
others. Sorry, no spare sound card available here. The audio cable is the
one once offered for sale by TelePost. It's a very neat cable solution.
Paypal preferred.

Please contact me off line. I am good on qrz.com.

AB2TC - Knut




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[Elecraft] K3 XMIT/TUNE button doesnt work

2020-05-08 Thread Jorge Diez - CX6VM
hello

my K3 have a problem with this button. some weeks ago, I need to push it
hard to have it working.

Now doesnt work. Definitely is bad

Any idea how to fix that?  Hope is something easy I can solve locally

thanks!!

-- 
73,
Jorge
CX6VM/CW5W
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Re: [Elecraft] KPA500 Remote Software will not pin to STARTUP list

2020-05-08 Thread Rick Tavan
But when KPA500 Remote or KPA1500 Remote start up, you need to invoke the
Start Hosting Remote function to get them to listen for a remote
connection. It may be possible to automate that, but I don't know how. And
if you could automate it, note that these Remote apps power up the
amplifier as they start up, leaving it running. That's OK if you just
rebooted the server yourself. But if it's auto-booting, for example after
recovery from a power failure, it could leave the amp running for days
before you next sit down at your control site to operate. Maybe you don't
care, but I prefer to leave unattended amps powered down when not in use.
Or am I missing something?

73,

/Rick N6XI

On Thu, May 7, 2020 at 5:06 AM Lyn Norstad  wrote:

> Frank -
>
> I have both the KPA and KAT500 utilities set to do this, along with my
> browser (Chrome) set to QRZ.com on one of my Win 7 systems.  It works
> perfectly.
>
> How To Start a Windows 7 Program Automatically (quoted from "dummies")
>
> 1 Click Start→All Programs. ...
> 2 Right-click the Startup folder and click Open. ...
> 3 Right-click Start and choose Open Windows Explorer. ...
> 4 Locate the program you want to start when you start Windows, then drag
> into the Startup folder. ...
> 5 Click the Close button in the upper-right corner of both Explorer windows
> to close them.
> 6 Reboot.
>
> Note: This is not the same as "Pin To Start Menu."
>
> 73
> Lyn, W0LEN
>
>
> -Original Message-
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> net] On Behalf Of VO1HPFrank
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> Subject: [Elecraft] KPA500 Remote Software will not pin to STARTUP list
>
> After a failed attempt to operate my remote KPA500 using a STARTECH serial
> server I have reverted back to a PC at the site.  To streamline operations
> I
> want the KPA remote software to start up when the PC is remotely booted.
> Right clicking and selecting Pin to Start does not work.  It does not
> appear
> in the list of STARTUP programs.  KAT500 works Ok in STARTUP but not the
> KPA500.
>
> Does anyone know why?...or is there something else I need to do.  The PC
> runs Win 7
>
> Frank VO1HP
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Re: [Elecraft] K3 current draw

2020-05-08 Thread Keith Trinity WE6R

Hi David;
You can tap DISP and rotate VFO B knob to see the current. Then set "tun 
pwr" to nor, select desired power out, and long press XMIT to send a 
carrier and see the current.

(do not TX at exactly 5 or 50w as that will cause a TX gain calibration).
That will give you a close reading.
The RX current depends a lot on if you have a sub receiver or 2m module 
but you can watch RX current and change options to see the changes.
If you design a system for 2Amps on RX and 25a on TX, that would give 
you plenty of overhead.

Keith WE6R
Elecraft K3 Tech.

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Re: [Elecraft] KPA500 Remote Software will not pin to STARTUP list

2020-05-08 Thread Lyn Norstad
Frank –

 

Glad that helped.  It’s a useful tool for any apps you always want so you gate 
get them started quickly without waiting around while the system goes thru its 
boot gyrations.

 

I remember having to write batch files in early versions of Windows (and DOS …) 
to do the same thing.  This is much easier to implement and to change when the 
need arises.

 

73

Lyn, W0LEN

 

PS – We’ve worked a few times on 160m FT8.  Lots of interesting stuff on your 
QRZ page!

 

 

From: Frank VO1HP [mailto:invl...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Thursday, May 07, 2020 8:38 AM
To: l...@lnainc.com
Cc: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] KPA500 Remote Software will not pin to STARTUP list

 

Lyn

 

Many thanks for your help.   That worked perfectly!  KAP remote just started 
when I rebooted using access via ANYDESK

I appreciate you taking the time to clarify for me.  At first I couldn't find 
the STARUP folder as it was hidden in AppData which I could not

see .  Discovered how to make it visible and went from there.  Thanks again!

 

73

Frank VO1HP

 

 

 

On Thu, May 7, 2020 at 12:05 PM Lyn Norstad  wrote:

Frank -

I have both the KPA and KAT500 utilities set to do this, along with my
browser (Chrome) set to QRZ.com on one of my Win 7 systems.  It works
perfectly.

How To Start a Windows 7 Program Automatically (quoted from "dummies")

1 Click Start→All Programs. ...
2 Right-click the Startup folder and click Open. ...
3 Right-click Start and choose Open Windows Explorer. ...
4 Locate the program you want to start when you start Windows, then drag
into the Startup folder. ...
5 Click the Close button in the upper-right corner of both Explorer windows
to close them.
6 Reboot.

Note: This is not the same as "Pin To Start Menu."

73
Lyn, W0LEN


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From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.
net] On Behalf Of VO1HPFrank
Sent: Thursday, May 07, 2020 5:31 AM
To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: [Elecraft] KPA500 Remote Software will not pin to STARTUP list

After a failed attempt to operate my remote KPA500 using a STARTECH serial
server I have reverted back to a PC at the site.  To streamline operations I
want the KPA remote software to start up when the PC is remotely booted. 
Right clicking and selecting Pin to Start does not work.  It does not appear
in the list of STARTUP programs.  KAT500 works Ok in STARTUP but not the
KPA500.

Does anyone know why?...or is there something else I need to do.  The PC
runs Win 7

Frank VO1HP



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Re: [Elecraft] Headphones

2020-05-08 Thread rich hurd WC3T
Adding to the small but growing chorus of over-ear 'cans.'I have an
MDR-V6 and a 7506 -- and want for nothing.  On ear is damned uncomfortable
and I shudder when i think of putting something in my ears.   My son with
his ear buds - he can keep 'em.   I can wear the V6 all day with no
discomfort.

Postscript:  i just ordered velour cushions for the two Sony cans.   Can't
wait.  That will be Nirvana.

On Fri, May 8, 2020 at 10:53 AM  wrote:

> Clay,
>
> Have to agree about OTE headphones. I am hearing impaired and have not
> found a "truly compatible" over the hearing aid solution. The best one for
> me so far is the Sennheiser S1 avionic headset (no longer available). I
> happened to have one from my flying days. It has the best TX and RX noise
> cancelling function I have found. It is a shame that Sennheiser did not
> continue them. I have not played with the Bose or LightSpeed sets since my
> early experience with both being too tight.
>
> I have used the Sennheiser PXC 550 II set with the Kenwood D74A BT feature
> and gotten good voice reports. They are also OTE and good for those of us
> with larger hat sizes, but did not work acceptably without taking off the
> hearing aids. They do work without a lot of BT lag so might be acceptable
> for CW.
>
> I never used either with my KX3.
>
> Jack - KD4IZ
>
> -Original Message-
> From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net 
> On Behalf Of Clay Autery
> Sent: Friday, May 8, 2020 10:11
> To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Headphones
>
> My Sennheiser HD6XX are neither bulky or heavy, but over-the-ear from
> larger drivers generally produces better results all around.
> I have A/B tested over-the-ear, on-ear, and in-ear...
>
> On-ear, for me is the worst of all worlds.  I use my in-ear wireless BLE
> stereo set when I am in a noisy environment or in the field.
> But there is simply no substitute for a proper set of OTE phones when you
> need to dig an audio signal out of a pack or out of the mud.
>
> My 2/100ths of a paper debt instrument posing as "money"
>
> 73,
>
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> (318) 518-1389
>
> On 05/08/20 07:35, Barry wrote:
> > IUnless you're in a multi-op or noisy environment, why go with bulky,
> > heavy, over the ear models?
> >
> > I've used a Sony MDR-W08 for years.  Appears that model is
> > discontinued, but there are similar ones.  It weighs 1 oz(!) and cost
> > about $20 when I got them.  Do a search and you'll find similar ones.
> >
> > Barry W2UP
> >
> >
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Re: [Elecraft] KXPA100 for sale

2020-05-08 Thread kd4iz
Sent you a personal email about this. Definitely interested.
Jack - KD4IZ

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Behalf Of John Zaruba Jr
Sent: Thursday, May 7, 2020 23:50
To: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: [Elecraft] KXPA100 for sale

Factory assembled KXPA100 with internal antenna tuner, includes KXPACBL (KX3 
interface cable). Purchased new 9/2019. Just don’t use it very much and would 
rather have a new mountain bike to transport my KX3 to Parks On The Air (POTA) 
when things open back up. $1100 plus shipping to your QTH, PayPal and Zelle 
only for funds transfer.

73,

John K2ZA


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Re: [Elecraft] Headphones

2020-05-08 Thread kd4iz
Clay,

Have to agree about OTE headphones. I am hearing impaired and have not found a 
"truly compatible" over the hearing aid solution. The best one for me so far is 
the Sennheiser S1 avionic headset (no longer available). I happened to have one 
from my flying days. It has the best TX and RX noise cancelling function I have 
found. It is a shame that Sennheiser did not continue them. I have not played 
with the Bose or LightSpeed sets since my early experience with both being too 
tight.

I have used the Sennheiser PXC 550 II set with the Kenwood D74A BT feature and 
gotten good voice reports. They are also OTE and good for those of us with 
larger hat sizes, but did not work acceptably without taking off the hearing 
aids. They do work without a lot of BT lag so might be acceptable for CW.  

I never used either with my KX3.

Jack - KD4IZ

-Original Message-
From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net  On 
Behalf Of Clay Autery
Sent: Friday, May 8, 2020 10:11
To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Headphones

My Sennheiser HD6XX are neither bulky or heavy, but over-the-ear from larger 
drivers generally produces better results all around.
I have A/B tested over-the-ear, on-ear, and in-ear...

On-ear, for me is the worst of all worlds.  I use my in-ear wireless BLE stereo 
set when I am in a noisy environment or in the field.
But there is simply no substitute for a proper set of OTE phones when you need 
to dig an audio signal out of a pack or out of the mud.

My 2/100ths of a paper debt instrument posing as "money"

73,

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(318) 518-1389

On 05/08/20 07:35, Barry wrote:
> IUnless you're in a multi-op or noisy environment, why go with bulky, 
> heavy, over the ear models?
>
> I've used a Sony MDR-W08 for years.  Appears that model is 
> discontinued, but there are similar ones.  It weighs 1 oz(!) and cost 
> about $20 when I got them.  Do a search and you'll find similar ones.
>
> Barry W2UP
>
>
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Re: [Elecraft] Headphones

2020-05-08 Thread Clay Autery
My Sennheiser HD6XX are neither bulky or heavy, but over-the-ear from 
larger drivers generally produces better results all around.

I have A/B tested over-the-ear, on-ear, and in-ear...

On-ear, for me is the worst of all worlds.  I use my in-ear wireless BLE 
stereo set when I am in a noisy environment or in the field.
But there is simply no substitute for a proper set of OTE phones when 
you need to dig an audio signal out of a pack or out of the mud.


My 2/100ths of a paper debt instrument posing as "money"

73,

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On 05/08/20 07:35, Barry wrote:

IUnless you're in a multi-op or noisy environment, why go with bulky, heavy,
over the ear models?

I've used a Sony MDR-W08 for years.  Appears that model is discontinued, but
there are similar ones.  It weighs 1 oz(!) and cost about $20 when I got
them.  Do a search and you'll find similar ones.

Barry W2UP



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[Elecraft] KPA-500 and KAT-500 Wanted

2020-05-08 Thread Jim Cary
Looking for KPA-500 and KAT-500.  Does not need to be a package deal.

Contact me at jimlc...@gmail.com .

73,
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Re: [Elecraft] Headphones

2020-05-08 Thread Barry
IUnless you're in a multi-op or noisy environment, why go with bulky, heavy,
over the ear models?

I've used a Sony MDR-W08 for years.  Appears that model is discontinued, but
there are similar ones.  It weighs 1 oz(!) and cost about $20 when I got
them.  Do a search and you'll find similar ones.

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