Re: [Elecraft] [OT] Suggested techniques for teaching CW?

2009-05-09 Thread David Cutter
Yes, Doug, I remember doing that, thanks for reminding me, it's very good practice. - Original Message - From: GM0ELP douglas.maxw...@virgin.net To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Sent: Saturday, May 09, 2009 12:17 AM Subject: Re: [Elecraft] [OT] Suggested techniques for teaching CW? 1

[Elecraft] [OT] Suggested techniques for teaching CW?

2009-05-09 Thread Steve Harvey
I have always enjoyed Tony Lacey’s Nu-Morse Pro. It is the most comprehensive training software that I have found. It can be found at http://www.nu-ware.com/index.htm Also fantastic is (if you can still find one) the AEA MM-3 Morse Machine, which had a really cool QSO simulator. See it at

[Elecraft] [OT] Suggested techniques for teaching CW?

2009-05-08 Thread TF3KX
Hi - I know this is very remotely related to Elecraft, but good advice is never in short supply in this group... Here in Iceland the requirement for knowledge of CW is no longer required for amateur HF licenses - a trend that we see in most countries nowadays. Still, I am interested in

Re: [Elecraft] [OT] Suggested techniques for teaching CW?

2009-05-08 Thread Alan Bloom
On Fri, 2009-05-08 at 10:38 -0700, TF3KX wrote: ... I am interested in establishing CW courses for those new amateurs who may want to learn CW, and I am seeking advice from those of you who have experience. For example... - General suggestions for methods (Koch, etc.) The most important

Re: [Elecraft] [OT] Suggested techniques for teaching CW?

2009-05-08 Thread David Cutter
...@gmail.com Cc: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Sent: Friday, May 08, 2009 6:58 PM Subject: Re: [Elecraft] [OT] Suggested techniques for teaching CW? On Fri, 2009-05-08 at 10:38 -0700, TF3KX wrote: ... I am interested in establishing CW courses for those new amateurs who may want to learn CW, and I

Re: [Elecraft] [OT] Suggested techniques for teaching CW?

2009-05-08 Thread Don Wilhelm
Kristen, Take a serious look at the K7QO Code Course. Chuck is a master at high speed CW, and his code course can be downloaded from http://www.k7qo.net/ - these are .iso images that can be used to make CDs for everyone in the class. The code is learned by sound - no other method should be

Re: [Elecraft] [OT] Suggested techniques for teaching CW?

2009-05-08 Thread Ron NA9F
Still, I am interested in establishing CW courses for those new amateurs who may want to learn CW, and I am seeking advice from those of you who have experience. For example... - General suggestions for methods (Koch, etc.) - Software and other tools for class teaching and individual

Re: [Elecraft] [OT] Suggested techniques for teaching CW?

2009-05-08 Thread Radio Amateur N5GE
On Fri, 8 May 2009 19:42:19 +0100, David Cutter d.cut...@ntlworld.com wrote: I agree with Alan and will add to ignore the advice I have seen in some manuals that tell you not to start sending until you can receive at such and such speed. In my experience, it's better to start sending straight

Re: [Elecraft] [OT] Suggested techniques for teaching CW?

2009-05-08 Thread Brendan Minish
On Fri, 2009-05-08 at 19:42 +0100, David Cutter wrote: I've heard that the Koch method works, but I have no direct experience of it. I know the Farnsworth method of sending/receiving characters about twice as fast as the average, with longer gaps is very helpful. It gives the receiving

Re: [Elecraft] [OT] Suggested techniques for teaching CW?

2009-05-08 Thread drewko
I have no experience teaching Morse Code, but I did learn it very quickly from some old US Army Signal Corps records. I have uploaded these recordings to Internet Archive: http://www.archive.org/details/U.S._Armed_Forces_Institute_Basic_Radio_Code_ca1942 They are quite primitive, but maybe

Re: [Elecraft] [OT] Suggested techniques for teaching CW?

2009-05-08 Thread Jed Petrovich
Kristinn: First of all, I would agree with the comments from the others who have responded to this message. Specifically, daily practice, in short sessions, is best. I'm am a fairly new ham, having been licensed since 2005. Just as I was starting to learn CW, I was directed to information on the

Re: [Elecraft] [OT] Suggested techniques for teaching CW?

2009-05-08 Thread R. Kevin Stover
Ditto everything Brendan wrote. The Farnsworth method is fine for learning enough CW to pass a test, which we don't have any longer, but the beauty of the Koch method is you learn the characters at full speed and properly spaced. You learn two characters to start and only start adding

Re: [Elecraft] [OT] Suggested techniques for teaching CW?

2009-05-08 Thread Ron D'Eau Claire
Tnx Drew! That's how I learned it too, about 10 years after those recordings were made. It was reminiscent to hear them talk about short sounds and long sounds and not dots or dits and dashes and dahs. Many, many thousands of people entering military service who had never heard Morse learned

Re: [Elecraft] [OT] Suggested techniques for teaching CW?

2009-05-08 Thread GM0ELP
Hi, I find that most people who already know cw forget the part where you simply have to memorise the code. All the methods discussed so far come after this hurdle. I found that grouping can help i.e. eish, tmo, 12345, 67890, ndb, auv, kr, qy,px.. etc. Once the code can be recalled by

Re: [Elecraft] [OT] Suggested techniques for teaching CW?

2009-05-08 Thread David Wilburn
I'm experienced in this, mainly as a result of going about it the wrong way initially, and then having to re-learn it once I wanted to do morse code. Initially I bought the 5 wpm CD when I was first licensed in 2001. I then went to take the test, and found out that the letters were sent much

Re: [Elecraft] [OT] Suggested techniques for teaching CW?

2009-05-08 Thread Ron D'Eau Claire
Doug GM0ELP wrote: ... most people who already know cw forget the part where you simply have to memorise the code. All the methods discussed so far come after this hurdle. Except the program Drew, AF2Z has made available at:

Re: [Elecraft] [OT] Suggested techniques for teaching CW?

2009-05-08 Thread David Wilburn
Those were some great links. Thanks Drew for making those available. I have a friend that is trying to get his speed up, I'm going to pass it along. Dave Wilburn NM4M Ron D'Eau Claire wrote: Doug GM0ELP wrote: ... most people who already know cw forget the part where you simply have to

Re: [Elecraft] [OT] Suggested techniques for teaching CW?

2009-05-08 Thread Frank Ross W4NHJ
:19 PM Subject: Re: [Elecraft] [OT] Suggested techniques for teaching CW? Doug GM0ELP wrote: ... most people who already know cw forget the part where you simply have to memorise the code. All the methods discussed so far come after this hurdle. Except

Re: [Elecraft] [OT] Suggested techniques for teaching CW?

2009-05-08 Thread Alan Bloom
On Fri, 2009-05-08 at 16:17 -0700, GM0ELP wrote: Hi, I find that most people who already know cw forget the part where you simply have to memorise the code. I learned the code with the following method: First I learned the Morse code for the letters E and T. Then I listened on the air