Finally, a sensible post about this.
It is funny that we argue about the purpose of amateur radio, because (for US
amateurs) it is spelled out in FCC regulations. There are five purposes, two
technical, one about technical and communication education, one about public
service, and one about
Interesting discussion. With respect to what a ham should or should not know
about technical stuff let me say this. I spent 30 years in various positions at
Hughes Aircraft Company.
(https://www.hughesscgheritage.com/hughes-aircraft-history-1932-1986-transcribed-by-faith-macpherson/)
*
We
LOL!
Jim and Dave,
You both have made great contribution to the hobby.
I am an ex ARRL Assistant Technical Editor, working with Doug DeMaw,
W1FB, and Jerry Hall, K1TD in the Tech Department of ARRL, and was a
contributor to the ARRL Handbook and QST editor. Oh, and 47 years in the
hobby
On 7/7/2022 12:58 AM, Dave B via Elecraft wrote:
Well, this is a "technical" hobby, and such technicalities are not going
to go away anytime soon I suspect. Especially in regards to the use of
computers in the shack.
Yep. Traditionally, ham radio has been a hobby for those who what to
LEARN
On 06/07/2022 16:46, Gerry Hull wrote:
Great info, Dave.
Thanks...
Might be a little technical for some users.
Well, this is a "technical" hobby, and such technicalities are not
going to go away anytime soon I suspect. Especially in regards to the
use of computers in the shack.
Back when I needed a lot of serial ports I used those USB to RS232 by Digi
and they solved a lot of problems. Now most of my rigs have USB interfaces,
if not ethernet, and those issues are in the past. And the rigs have the
sound card built in and it gets more simple. Used to have 2 or 3 rigs,
I've used a few of the Gearmo USB to RS-232 adapters, and they also seem
to hold their COM port assignments constant (on any one given machine,
of course). They just use the standard FTDI chipset with no special
drivers. Not sure how they do it, but it works.
73...
Randy, W8FN
On 7/6/2022
Great info, Dave. Might be a little technical for some users.
The #1 problem most hams have is they plug their USB-To-Serial
adapters into different USB ports, and the COM port number changes.
Not only that, Windows leaves the old port number reserved much of the time.
I have an in-depth blog
I have not had the problem of devices “moving” on the Mac. I think the Mac uses
the FDTI serial number to keep them straight. When I was using a RS-232
protocol analyzer on to chase a problem, I had 4 Elecraft FTDI RS-232 <—> USB
cables hooked up. Two for the two directions of the analyzer, one
.
The problem of *ALL* COM ports being shown as busy upon reboot persists.
- pjd
-Original Message-
From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net On
Behalf Of Dave B via Elecraft
Sent: Sunday, July 3, 2022 7:00 AM
To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] COM port problems
FYI...
Windows
FYI...
Windows users, can use these utilities to find out what is/was connected
to their PC's by USB etc...
USBview: A Microsoft (was System Internals who MS bought) tool.
The easiest way to find it is here:- https://ftdichip.com/utilities/
"Microsoft USBView - USB Connection Viewer"
There
Sent: Saturday, July 2, 2022 3:01 PM
To: 'Peter Dougherty (W2IRT)' ; 'Wilson Lamb'
; 'elecraft'
Subject: RE: [Elecraft] Com Port Problems
Peter -
If you're sure that the problem is not what we addressed, then I suggest you
reinstall Windows 11. Presumably you're using the " Pro &quo
01, 2022 5:22 PM
To: 'Wilson Lamb'; 'elecraft'
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Com Port Problems
The problem isn't the Elecraft radio, or the COM ports, it's a defect of some
nature within Windows 11 that has suddenly manifested itself. I've tried all
the usual troubleshooting problems and no-go
Thank you Mitch!! The procedure I have been using and wrote about seems
to work roughly 50% of the time. Now I think I know why [:=)
73,
Fred ["Skip"] K6DGW
Sparks NV DM09dn
Washoe County
Mitch Wolfson wrote on 7/1/2022 9:23 PM:
Peter,
Skip is on to what you need to do, but that method
...@mailman.qth.net wrote:
-Original Message-
From:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net
[mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Peter Dougherty
(W2IRT)
Sent: Thursday, June 30, 2022 12:28 AM
To: 'George Thornton';Elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] COM port problems
It's possible
Peter:
1. Open Control Panel and click on Hardware/Sound-->Device Mangler-->Ports
2. In the View menu, click on Show Hidden Devices
If there are any, they will appear in the Ports display but grayed out.
Delete them, close everything, reboot, and try again. Windows will
occasionally, and
"I cannot find that "something.""
That something is likely Microsoft Windows. I declined Win 10 and never
regretted that decision. It seems Win 11 is even worse than Win 10.
My station computer in Win 8.1 64 bit. It never changes COM port assignments.
I have other XP Sp3 computers that
, and only recently to TCP/IP, which is the correct
way of doing things in my opinion.
- pjd
-Original Message-
From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net On
Behalf Of Wilson Lamb via Elecraft
Sent: Friday, July 1, 2022 2:18 PM
To: elecraft
Subject: [Elecraft] Com Port Problems
Please read my
[Elecraft] COM port problems
These is nothing unique about the Elecraft serial cable except possibly the
radio side connector. Basically it's a USB to RS232 Ground/transmit/Receive
cable. Anyone who understands USB com ports can help you. They don't need
to know radio. They should understand wh
...@lnainc.com; 'Julia Tuttle'
Cc: 'George Thornton'; 'Elecraft'
Subject: RE: [Elecraft] COM port problems
Reassigning port numbers did not solve the problem, and I did try that as one
of the first steps in troubleshooting.
With one day’s work under my belt here’s where the situation lies
"These is nothing unique about the Elecraft serial cable except possibly the
radio side connector. Basically it's a USB to RS232 Ground/transmit/Receive
cable."
I think you may find that some Elecraft serial cables use TTL levels and are
not RS-232 compliant. Doesn't matter if used for
Please read my rant about Ham Qualifications and Technology.
We are at the mercy of MANY programmers and "software engineers."
The operating system people have no resistance to making things steadily more
obscure and complicated.
They don't know or care what the programmers of our many
These is nothing unique about the Elecraft serial cable except possibly the
radio side connector. Basically it's a USB to RS232 Ground/transmit/Receive
cable. Anyone who understands USB com ports can help you. They don't need
to know radio. They should understand what I wrote here.
For USB COM
them.
- pjd
From: Lyn Norstad
Sent: Thursday, June 30, 2022 8:46 PM
To: 'Julia Tuttle'
Cc: 'Peter Dougherty (W2IRT)' ; 'George Thornton'
; 'Elecraft'
Subject: RE: [Elecraft] COM port problems
Julie –
I can look for it … but I don’t believe it was in an official MSFT document
tried this
73
Lyn, W0LEN
From: Julia Tuttle [mailto:ju...@juliatuttle.net]
Sent: Thursday, June 30, 2022 2:47 PM
To: l...@lnainc.com
Cc: Peter Dougherty (W2IRT); George Thornton; Elecraft
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] COM port problems
Lyn,
Can you share your source that COM port
n Behalf Of Peter Dougherty
> (W2IRT)
> Sent: Thursday, June 30, 2022 12:28 AM
> To: 'George Thornton'; Elecraft@mailman.qth.net
> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] COM port problems
>
> It's possible (and I'm guessing somehow likely), but darned if I know what
> to even look for. These ar
On Behalf Of Peter Dougherty
(W2IRT)
Sent: Thursday, June 30, 2022 12:28 AM
To: 'George Thornton'; Elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] COM port problems
It's possible (and I'm guessing somehow likely), but darned if I know what
to even look for. These are things that were set when the compu
10:23 PM
To: Peter Dougherty (W2IRT) ; Elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: RE: [Elecraft] COM port problems
It is possible the parameters set in the computer after reboot don't match
those set in the program. Check the port and baud settings.
Generally xom port settings need to match
;
>
> Sent from my Galaxy
>
>
>
> Original message
> From: "Peter Dougherty (W2IRT)"
> Date: 6/29/22 6:59 PM (GMT-08:00)
> To: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net
> Subject: [Elecraft] COM port problems
>
> OK, got a massive problem that just cropped
W2IRT)"
Date: 6/29/22 6:59 PM (GMT-08:00)
To: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: [Elecraft] COM port problems
OK, got a massive problem that just cropped up this evening that is far
beyond my understanding that has completely killed my ability to use my K3
with my computer.
After restart
OK, got a massive problem that just cropped up this evening that is far
beyond my understanding that has completely killed my ability to use my K3
with my computer.
After restarting the PC, suddenly I cannot communicate with the radio using
DX Lab Suite or N1MM+ on the assigned COM port. I
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