Re: [Elecraft] KX2 on JT65 & JT9 ??

2016-05-30 Thread Jim Brown
On Mon,5/30/2016 12:09 PM, Dan - VA3MA wrote: When one makes it personal Dan, My apology if you were offended. Perhaps you're new to Elecraft. Many of us began buying their radios when they only sold kits, and everyone built their own. Indeed, many of us OTs built Heathkits. Elecraft

Re: [Elecraft] KX2 on JT65 & JT9 ??

2016-05-30 Thread Dan - VA3MA
Edward Your test results are much appreciated! Any very informative! Thank you kind sir Would be interesting to be able to compare a newer KX3 with rev E boards to your past test results 73 Dan > On May 30, 2016, at 2:05 PM, Edward R Cole wrote: > > I ran extensive

Re: [Elecraft] KX2 on JT65 & JT9 ??

2016-05-30 Thread Dan - VA3MA
Jim When one makes it personal I'm done Have a happy day and enjoy ham radio 72 > On May 30, 2016, at 1:24 PM, Jim Brown wrote: > >> On Mon,5/30/2016 4:50 AM, D Howard wrote: >> I thought at the price I paid for the KX3 I shouldn't have to do the >> compensation

Re: [Elecraft] KX2 on JT65 & JT9 ??

2016-05-30 Thread Edward R Cole
I ran extensive frequency drift measurements on the KX3 in 2014, purchasing an aftermarket heat sink for my KX3. After running the temperature compensation procedure I reported: I re-ran the JT65 testing sequences to measure frequency drift after temperature compensation was done.

Re: [Elecraft] KX2 on JT65 & JT9 ??

2016-05-30 Thread Jim Brown
On Mon,5/30/2016 4:50 AM, D Howard wrote: I thought at the price I paid for the KX3 I shouldn't have to do the compensation nor run the KX3 at such reduced power once compensated. My trusty old FT817 worked fine. That's your problem, not Elecraft's. The KX3 was specifically designed as a

Re: [Elecraft] KX2 on JT65 & JT9 ??

2016-05-30 Thread Walter Underwood
; they work. I can only imagine that any more metal on the side to pick up >>>> some extra heat will only be a good thing. >>>> >>>> Luke >>>> AD0KI >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> From: Dan

Re: [Elecraft] KX2 on JT65 & JT9 ??

2016-05-30 Thread Jim Rodenkirch
Wayne/et al: I run JT9 and JT65 with my KX3 often on 160 and 80...I had the temperature compensation performed at the factory when I purchased the rig and I utilize a cooling fan when running the JT modes or running a freq during a contest; I loaded Dimension 4 s/w for extra time stability. No

Re: [Elecraft] KX2 on JT65 & JT9 ??

2016-05-30 Thread D Howard
up a little faster using JT9, but >>>>> it's still managable. I don't mind taking a few minutes between QSO's to >>>>> let things cool off. From my understanding Gemsproducts.com already has >>>>> KX2 side handles in the works and I will definitely

Re: [Elecraft] KX2 on JT65 & JT9 ??

2016-05-30 Thread David Anderson via Elecraft
etween QSO's to let >>>> things cool off. From my understanding Gemsproducts.com already has KX2 >>>> side handles in the works and I will definitely pick some up and see how >>>> they work. I can only imagine that any more metal on the side to pick up >>&

Re: [Elecraft] KX2 on JT65 & JT9 ??

2016-05-30 Thread D Howard
t;>> because the right sideplate gets very hot with the high duty cycle. >>>> >>>> I've actually just been sitting here running JT65 @ 10 watts when I got >>>> your email, and it is doing pretty well. I had 3 back to back QSO's and on >>>> the last tra

Re: [Elecraft] KX2 on JT65 & JT9 ??

2016-05-30 Thread D Howard
s KX2 >>> side handles in the works and I will definitely pick some up and see how >>> they work. I can only imagine that any more metal on the side to pick up >>> some extra heat will only be a good thing. >>> >>> Luke >>> AD0KI >>>

Re: [Elecraft] KX2 on JT65 & JT9 ??

2016-05-30 Thread David Anderson via Elecraft
d. As it cools off there is no drifting or slanting of signals on the >> waterfall either. I think the 1 minute on/off duty cycle of JT65 is very >> doable with the KX2, and WSPR might be pushing it. The other night the >> sideplate

Re: [Elecraft] KX2 on JT65 & JT9 ??

2016-05-29 Thread Wayne Burdick
7C (~117F) which doesn't seem >>> too bad. As it cools off there is no drifting or slanting of signals on the >>> waterfall either. I think the 1 minute on/off duty cycle of JT65 is very >>> doable with the KX2, and WSPR might be pushing it. The othe

Re: [Elecraft] KX2 on JT65 & JT9 ??

2016-05-29 Thread D Howard
or slanting of signals on the >> waterfall either. I think the 1 minute on/off duty cycle of JT65 is very >> doable with the KX2, and WSPR might be pushing it. The other night the >> sideplate got quite hot running WSPR at 5 watts. >> >> Luke >> AD0KI

Re: [Elecraft] KX2 on JT65 & JT9 ??

2016-05-29 Thread D Howard
o.com> > Cc: Elecraft <elecraft@mailman.qth.net> > Sent: Sunday, May 29, 2016 9:14 PM > Subject: Re: [Elecraft] KX2 on JT65 & JT9 ?? > > Luke > Thanks - just what I needed to know! > Have you tried JT9 ? > Perhaps some sort of heatsink/handles added to the

Re: [Elecraft] KX2 on JT65 & JT9 ??

2016-05-29 Thread Lyle
and WSPR might be pushing it. The other night the > sideplate got quite hot running WSPR at 5 watts. > > Luke > AD0KI > > > From: Dan - VA3MA <va...@me.com> > To: Luke <auric...@yahoo.com> > Sent: Sunday, May 29, 2016 8:12 PM > Subject: Re: [Elecr

Re: [Elecraft] KX2 on JT65 & JT9 ??

2016-05-29 Thread D Howard
Wayne I would imagine a bit of cooling on the KX2 end plate will help also? Heat sink... Happy to see it is within limits for WSJT modes without freezing it!! Hi hi Dan VA3MA > On May 29, 2016, at 11:35 PM, Wayne Burdick wrote: > > I'm glad it's working. But just in case,

Re: [Elecraft] KX2 on JT65 & JT9 ??

2016-05-29 Thread Wayne Burdick
I'm glad it's working. But just in case, we will also be providing an optional extended temperature compensation procedure for the KX2. 73, Wayne > On 2016-05-29, at 22:37, Luke wrote: > > Hmm, not sure why it cut out my message. Here's what I wrote: > > I've used my KX2

Re: [Elecraft] KX2 on JT65 & JT9 ??

2016-05-29 Thread Dan - VA3MA
1 minute on/off duty cycle of JT65 is very doable with the KX2, and WSPR might be pushing it. The other night the sideplate got quite hot running WSPR at 5 watts. Luke AD0KI From: Dan - VA3MA <va...@me.com> To: Luke <auric...@yahoo.com> Sent: Sunday, May 29, 2016 8:12 PM Subjec

Re: [Elecraft] KX2 on JT65 & JT9 ??

2016-05-29 Thread Tony Estep
> > > Issues with not being able to communicate with JT65 have nothing to do with > frequency stability === Actually, frequency stability is the key issue with JT65. The transmit frequency can not drift more than about 8 hz during transmission, or the receiving station will probably

Re: [Elecraft] KX2 on JT65 & JT9 ??

2016-05-29 Thread Michael Walker
The moon bounces around and causes some pretty good doppler. Good thing that JT65-HF also has AFC built in. http://www.packetradio.com/pdfzips/jt65-hf-setup.pdf *AFC enables automatic frequency control and will attempt to follow a signal that exhibits drift. Its original intent is to compensate

Re: [Elecraft] KX2 on JT65 & JT9 ??

2016-05-29 Thread Luke via Elecraft
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Re: [Elecraft] KX2 on JT65 & JT9 ??

2016-05-29 Thread Josh Fiden
Yes, but... the earth & moon don't do anything abrupt. 73, Josh W6XU On 5/29/2016 1:33 PM, Michael Walker wrote: ...does not require a super stable transmitter. In fact, when they use it off the moon, there is significant doppler going on.

Re: [Elecraft] KX2 on JT65 & JT9 ??

2016-05-29 Thread Michael Walker
I have run JT65 on my KX3 at 5 watts without issue other than not having enough RF signal. Mike va3mw On Sun, May 29, 2016 at 4:37 PM, Dan Howard wrote: > Mike > The KX3 wil not work JT modes due to freq drift due to heat - one must do > the temperature compensation procedure

Re: [Elecraft] KX2 on JT65 & JT9 ??

2016-05-29 Thread Michael Walker
Dan Issues with not being able to communicate with JT65 have nothing to do with frequency stability. It has to do with just not being heard. :) Like all other digital modes, you require Transmit and Receive Audio and a PTT line. I would be very very very surprised that a KX2 can't handle

Re: [Elecraft] KX2 on JT65 & JT9 ??

2016-05-29 Thread Dan - VA3MA
Hi thanks I’ve read all these c comments by others - but I have yet to get a direct confirmation from someone who has operated the KX2 enthuse digital modes! Ha! Dan > On May 29, 2016, at 3:46 PM, Phil Wheeler wrote: > > One of the eham reviewers mentioned using the KX2 on

Re: [Elecraft] KX2 on JT65 & JT9 ??

2016-05-29 Thread Michael Walker
I don't believe that JT65 frequency stability at HF frequencies will be an issue. The documents say that the JT65 bandwidth is pretty generous. I've run JT65 on my Softrock without issue. Mike va3mw On Sun, May 29, 2016 at 3:46 PM, Phil Wheeler wrote: > One of the eham

Re: [Elecraft] KX2 on JT65 & JT9 ??

2016-05-29 Thread Phil Wheeler
One of the eham reviewers mentioned using the KX2 on JT65: http://www.eham.net/reviews/detail/12852 The N9JR review. Phil W7OX On 5/29/16 12:40 PM, Dan - VA3MA wrote: Has anyone had the opportunity to see if the KX2 out of the box will be stable enough to run JT65 & JT9 Would appreciate

[Elecraft] KX2 on JT65 & JT9 ??

2016-05-29 Thread Dan - VA3MA
Has anyone had the opportunity to see if the KX2 out of the box will be stable enough to run JT65 & JT9 Would appreciate feedback as I’m apartment dweller and only run these digital modes with compromised antenna Thanks Dan VA3MA __