Re: [Elecraft] OT setting your computer to NIST

2015-07-02 Thread Kevin Cozens
On 15-06-27 02:00 PM, Harry Yingst wrote: I used a Raspberry Pi and made a NTP server to hook to my GPSDO I didn't really need one but I had the GPSDO with the NMEA and PPS output and a spare Raspberry Pi I also have a GPSDO that provides NMEA data and PPS output. It makes sense for one to

Re: [Elecraft] OT setting your computer to NIST

2015-06-29 Thread Jim Brown
On Fri,6/26/2015 6:54 PM, Robin Moseley wrote: most EME stations There are several good applications that do this. I've used NetTime for several years. http://www.timesynctool.com/ It runs in the background, can be set to sync at intervals that make sense for your PC. BTW -- the accuracy

Re: [Elecraft] OT setting your computer to NIST

2015-06-28 Thread David Woolley
If you are using pool servers, best practice is to specify at least four (that's the reason for having 1., 2., etc., so that you can select four different ones). That way, if one of the them goes rogue it will be exlcuded from the time solution but you will still have enough for a correct

Re: [Elecraft] OT setting your computer to NIST

2015-06-28 Thread Edward R Cole
I also use tick.nobs.navy.mil for several years (2003) with my xp32 machine using D4 (mainly for JT65 on eme). I have a frequent sync rate so time is rarely off more than 0.020s. Dimension-4 is freeware and easy to setup. I tried some other NIST programs in the past returned to using D4. Its

Re: [Elecraft] OT setting your computer to NIST

2015-06-28 Thread Kevin Stover
I use D4 as well. It synch's on boot and every 15 minutes thereafter. The longer you leave the computer on the more accurate the system clock. I just checked and the last synch adjusted the system clock by .006 seconds. The computer rebooted three days ago. That's plenty good enough for me.

Re: [Elecraft] OT setting your computer to NIST

2015-06-28 Thread Rick Commo
Gary, Is there any chance that perhaps your firewall might be blocking the traffic on that NTP port? This thought was triggered by the fact that all your computers were having problems. From what I’ve found on Google doing a quick search that NTP can use port 123 (IMCP, which is also used

Re: [Elecraft] OT setting your computer to NIST

2015-06-28 Thread Walter Underwood
Yes. wunder K6WRU CM87wj http://observer.wunderwood.org/ (my blog) On Jun 27, 2015, at 6:22 PM, WA8JXM wa8...@gmail.com wrote: So you are saying that NTP should still synchronize my computer clock accurately? On 27/06/2015 20:06, Walter Underwood wrote: This is exactly what NTP was

Re: [Elecraft] OT setting your computer to NIST

2015-06-28 Thread Frontier ac2ev
I don't recall anyone mentioning it but I've had very good luck using Meinberg NTP on everything from XP to Windows 8.1. 73 Don AC2EV On Jun 28, 2015, at 18:00, elecraft-requ...@mailman.qth.net wrote: Re: [Elecraft] OT setting your computer to NIST

Re: [Elecraft] OT setting your computer to NIST

2015-06-28 Thread Michael Adams
message From: Frontier ac2ev ac...@frontier.com Date: 2015/06/28 19:13 (GMT-05:00) To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] OT setting your computer to NIST I don't recall anyone mentioning it but I've had very good luck using Meinberg NTP on everything from XP to Windows 8.1

Re: [Elecraft] OT setting your computer to NIST

2015-06-27 Thread David Woolley
Whilst Windows is not good for accurate time synchronisation using any tool, the current versions of w32time, the native Windows NTP support, can be configured https://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/cc773263%28v=ws.10%29.aspx#w2k3tr_times_tools_uhlp to be much better than the out of the

Re: [Elecraft] OT setting your computer to NIST

2015-06-27 Thread Harry Yingst via Elecraft
I used a Raspberry Pi and made a NTP server to hook to my GPSDO I didn't really need one but I had the GPSDO with the NMEA and PPS output and a spare Raspberry Pi __ Elecraft mailing list Home:

Re: [Elecraft] OT setting your computer to NIST

2015-06-27 Thread Kevin Cozens
On 15-06-26 02:03 PM, Gary Smith wrote: I've not been able to get my windows computer to automatically update for a long time now and I've tried everything I could uncover via google forums. Since I use the computer for logging and contesting, having the real time on my computer is important

Re: [Elecraft] OT setting your computer to NIST

2015-06-27 Thread Tony Estep
I think the main point is that for the last several versions of Windows you haven't needed to, and probably shouldn't, use a 3rd party program to sync time. You can set up a regular sync with a few clicks from the home screen. If your machine's clock needs more frequent sync, one way to set the

Re: [Elecraft] OT setting your computer to NIST

2015-06-27 Thread Phil Kane
On 6/27/2015 3:17 PM, Gary Smith wrote: Here is the windows error message I get 100% of the time I try to use windows built-in update facility: http://doctorgary.net/time.jpg It will not update on its own nor when I try to force an internet time correction and this has been T problem

Re: [Elecraft] OT setting your computer to NIST

2015-06-27 Thread WA8JXM
So you are saying that NTP should still synchronize my computer clock accurately? On 27/06/2015 20:06, Walter Underwood wrote: This is exactly what NTP was designed to handle, synchronizing clocks with long latency. If the variance is small, NTP can sync clocks very accurately. wunder K6WRU

Re: [Elecraft] OT setting your computer to NIST

2015-06-27 Thread Sebastian
Having an accurate clock if you are using, or plan to use, the WSJT digital modes with Windows, is highly recommended. The average user shouldn’t be making changes to the registry, and there is no reason why you shouldn’t use a third party utility program to have an accurate clock; even if you

Re: [Elecraft] OT setting your computer to NIST

2015-06-27 Thread Gary Smith
I've gotten several emails where some believe that using the built-in windows internet time update is my easiest solution. Unfortunately, it's not; I can not update unless I use a 3rd party program. Here is the windows error message I get 100% of the time I try to use windows built-in update

Re: [Elecraft] OT setting your computer to NIST

2015-06-27 Thread Lynn W. Taylor, WB6UUT
I mentioned POOL.NTP.ORG earlier. I don't care what name you use for the server, sooner or later it will change, or go away. The pool has a whole bunch of time servers, run by different organizations. The people who run them can add them to the pool, or remove them from the pool when

Re: [Elecraft] OT setting your computer to NIST

2015-06-27 Thread Lynn W. Taylor, WB6UUT
P.S. this applies to any NTP client on any OS, not just the built-in Windows time client. On 6/27/2015 4:02 PM, Lynn W. Taylor, WB6UUT wrote: Just type 1.pool.ntp.org where it currently says time-b.nist.gov and you'll have a very robust set of time servers to rely on -- not just one that may

Re: [Elecraft] OT setting your computer to NIST

2015-06-27 Thread Joe Subich, W4TV
That's because the server that you selected is not available (any more). There is a list of available NIST servers at: http://tf.nist.gov/tf-cgi/servers.cgi If you follow the rules and use - time.nist.gov - your request will be distributed to any available service. time.nist.gov is the

Re: [Elecraft] OT setting your computer to NIST

2015-06-27 Thread WA8JXM
Any suggestions to handle the delay caused by satellite internet access (typical 800 ms ping time)? __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post:

Re: [Elecraft] OT setting your computer to NIST

2015-06-27 Thread Lynn W. Taylor, WB6UUT
GPS time is extremely accurate. If you have multiple computers, you can run your own NTP server synced to GPS. On 6/27/2015 4:32 PM, WA8JXM wrote: Any suggestions to handle the delay caused by satellite internet access (typical 800 ms ping time)?

Re: [Elecraft] OT setting your computer to NIST

2015-06-27 Thread Walter Underwood
This is exactly what NTP was designed to handle, synchronizing clocks with long latency. If the variance is small, NTP can sync clocks very accurately. wunder K6WRU CM87wj http://observer.wunderwood.org/ (my blog) On Jun 27, 2015, at 4:32 PM, WA8JXM wa8...@gmail.com wrote: Any suggestions to

Re: [Elecraft] OT setting your computer to NIST

2015-06-27 Thread Gary Smith
Gentlemen, I have today tried each and every one of your suggestions for a correct server to sync and ever one of them has failed for me. While I am truly happy these options work for you, they do not work for this computer or any of the other computers I use. The 3rd party software,

Re: [Elecraft] OT setting your computer to NIST

2015-06-26 Thread Don Wilhelm
Gary, If you are on a Windows platform, look into Atomic Clock Sync. It can sync periodically or manually and the user interface is easy. 73, Don W3FPR On 6/26/2015 2:03 PM, Gary Smith wrote: I've not been able to get my windows computer to automatically update for a long time now and I've

[Elecraft] OT setting your computer to NIST

2015-06-26 Thread Gary Smith
I've not been able to get my windows computer to automatically update for a long time now and I've tried everything I could uncover via google forums. Since I use the computer for logging and contesting, having the real time on my computer is important so I've had to tune to WWV and

Re: [Elecraft] OT setting your computer to NIST

2015-06-26 Thread Josh Fiden
Most 6m EME guys I know are using Dimension 4. Works great and in my experience MUCH more accurate than the built-in Windows time sync. 73, Josh W6XU On 6/26/2015 2:15 PM, Brian Hunt wrote: i installed Dimension 4 (http://www.thinkman.com/dimension4/) a few months ago and it has been great.

Re: [Elecraft] OT setting your computer to NIST

2015-06-26 Thread Lynn W. Taylor, WB6UUT
I strongly recommend pool.ntp.org, using the native NTP software on your computer. A list of public time servers is here: http://support.ntp.org/bin/view/Servers/WebHome There is a list of public, stratum 1 time servers, but please please do not use them directly, unless you run your own

Re: [Elecraft] OT setting your computer to NIST

2015-06-26 Thread Lynn W. Taylor, WB6UUT
Windows before XP didn't have native NTP support. In XP, right-click on the clock, then choose internet time and enter 2.pool.ntp.org as the server. Make sure the synchronize box is checked. I'd expect later versions of Windows to be the same, but they probably aren't. 73 -- Lynn On

Re: [Elecraft] OT setting your computer to NIST

2015-06-26 Thread Brian Hunt
i installed Dimension 4 (http://www.thinkman.com/dimension4/) a few months ago and it has been great. I shutdown my Win7 PC when not in use. As soon as it comes back up the time is synced to NIST via any number of internet time servers which it rotates through. The correction history shows

Re: [Elecraft] OT setting your computer to NIST

2015-06-26 Thread Sfbonk via Elecraft
- From: Don Wilhelm w3...@embarqmail.com To: Gary g...@ka1j.com; elecraft elecraft@mailman.qth.net Sent: Fri, Jun 26, 2015 2:26 pm Subject: Re: [Elecraft] OT setting your computer to NIST Gary, If you are on a Windows platform, look into Atomic Clock Sync. It can sync periodically or manually

Re: [Elecraft] OT setting your computer to NIST

2015-06-26 Thread Robin Moseley
nope most EME stations have moved to https://www.meinbergglobal.com/english/sw/ntp.htm#ntp_nt_stable, installed as a service. Robin G1MHU -Original Message- From: Josh Fiden Sent: Friday, June 26, 2015 10:22 PM To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] OT setting your

Re: [Elecraft] OT setting your computer to NIST

2015-06-26 Thread Josh Fiden
-Original Message- From: Josh Fiden Sent: Friday, June 26, 2015 10:22 PM To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] OT setting your computer to NIST Most 6m EME guys I know are using Dimension 4. Works great and in my experience MUCH more accurate than the built-in Windows time sync. 73