Re: [Elecraft] P3 Waterfall

A button I never use ... that fixed it.  I must have bumped it while re-mounting the data switch on top. Thanks, 73, Fred ["Skip"] K6DGW Sparks NV DM09dn Washoe County On 4/10/2018 8:31 PM, Nr4c wrote: Tap the upper right button. Sent from my iPhone ...nr4c. bill On Apr 10, 2018, at

Re: [Elecraft] P3 Waterfall

I recently saw this happen on W6NV's P3 after upgrading the firmware from a very old version to the most recent version in one jump, or perhaps I accidentally removed power from the back of the P3 while it was on, while simultaneously bumping one of the front panel buttons. Reloading the firmware

Re: [Elecraft] P3 Waterfall

Tap the upper right button. Sent from my iPhone ...nr4c. bill > On Apr 10, 2018, at 10:14 PM, Fred Jensen wrote: > > My P3 waterfall disappeared when I turned the rig on tonight. WF Height > shows the line, and it moves with the knob, but no WF, just a very tall >

[Elecraft] P3 Waterfall

My P3 waterfall disappeared when I turned the rig on tonight.  WF Height shows the line, and it moves with the knob, but no WF, just a very tall spectrum display.  No SVGA. I'll maybe reload the FW tomorrow. 73, Fred ["Skip"] K6DGW Sparks NV DM09dn Washoe County

Re: [Elecraft] P3 Waterfall Off with SVGA Waterfall On???

To have waterfall enabled on the external display and off on the internal display, or vice versa, requires three things: - P3 firmware 1.50 or later - The "SVGA WfEn" menu entry set to either "Waterfall on" or "Waterfall off" as desired. - Toggling the DISPLAY key on the P3 to turn on/off

Re: [Elecraft] P3 Waterfall Off with SVGA Waterfall On???

No On Sat, Dec 26, 2015 at 10:03 PM, Alan wrote: > On 12/26/2015 06:23 PM, Ken Widelitz wrote: > >> The bottom of page 30 of the P3 manual shows a photo with the waterfall >> What I would like to >> accomplish is have the waterfall on the SVGA monitor, but not on the P3 >>

Re: [Elecraft] P3 Waterfall Off with SVGA Waterfall On???

That I'll buy. I knew it was more than tapping the Display button. Sent from my iPhone ...nr4c. bill > On Dec 27, 2015, at 11:38 AM, Alan wrote: > > To have waterfall enabled on the external display and off on the internal > display, or vice versa, requires three things: >

Re: [Elecraft] P3 Waterfall Off with SVGA Waterfall On???

From: Elecraft <elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net> on behalf of Alan <n...@sonic.net> Sent: Saturday, December 26, 2015 9:52 PM To: Nr4c Cc: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] P3 Waterfall Off with SVGA Waterfall On??? Make sure you have a recent P3 firmware v

[Elecraft] P3 Waterfall Off with SVGA Waterfall On???

The bottom of page 30 of the P3 manual shows a photo with the waterfall completely off on the P3 with the TX Mon option. The text immediately above that photo states "Note that in this illustration the waterfall display is turned off so the spectrum display and the waveform display fill the main

Re: [Elecraft] P3 Waterfall Off with SVGA Waterfall On???

It more to it than that. I tried it and both screens change together. Sent from my iPhone ...nr4c. bill > On Dec 26, 2015, at 10:03 PM, Alan wrote: > >> On 12/26/2015 06:23 PM, Ken Widelitz wrote: >> The bottom of page 30 of the P3 manual shows a photo with the waterfall >>

Re: [Elecraft] P3 Waterfall Off with SVGA Waterfall On???

Make sure you have a recent P3 firmware version (1.50 or later). Alan N1AL On 12/26/2015 08:34 PM, Nr4c wrote: It more to it than that. I tried it and both screens change together. Sent from my iPhone ...nr4c. bill On Dec 26, 2015, at 10:03 PM, Alan wrote: On 12/26/2015

Re: [Elecraft] P3 Waterfall Off with SVGA Waterfall On???

On 12/26/2015 06:23 PM, Ken Widelitz wrote: The bottom of page 30 of the P3 manual shows a photo with the waterfall What I would like to accomplish is have the waterfall on the SVGA monitor, but not on the P3 display. Is that possible? Yes, just use the P3's DISPLAY button to toggle the

Re: [Elecraft] P3 - Waterfall Marker?

Hi Steve, I agree that a dot or small vertical line at the bottom of the screen would work great for this purpose. The bottom white 'frame' already has small vertical 'tic' marks on it. I think adding a small tic or dot just beneath that bottom frame would do the trick. That way, the active part

Re: [Elecraft] P3 - Waterfall Marker?

Hi, I use 50 Khz or more span only to get an overview. Normally i only use 10 khz and never had problems turning the marker to the waterfall trace, so that I could catch the station next time it came up. ​73 de ​ Hajo --- Cela est bien dit, mais il faut cultiver notre jardin. >

[Elecraft] P3 - Waterfall Marker?

Am I doing something wrong or is this just how it works? I have the P3's waterfall marker turned on. The "marker" slowly crawls down the screen toward the bottom. Moving the Select knob drags the top of the marker and the rest slowly follows drawing a snake. Cute but...huh? Question: What good

Re: [Elecraft] P3 - Waterfall Marker?

Hi Steve, That's how it works. If you don't want the signal to roll off the bottom of the screen, use Freeze to stop the screen from updating or turn averaging on to slow the screen updates and provide more history. Kind regards, Paul -- View this message in context:

Re: [Elecraft] P3 - Waterfall Marker?

Paul et al "Freeze" locks up everything including the marker so how does that help? When searching for signals we might see one on the waterfall that is half way down the screen. We want to mark, click or do something to get us exactly on frequency so we can either wait for the signal to

Re: [Elecraft] P3 - Waterfall Marker?

Try Fixed/Tracking and see if that helps. 73, Steve W4FMD On 11/4/2015 12:32 PM, Steve Ellington wrote: Paul et al "Freeze" locks up everything including the marker so how does that help? When searching for signals we might see one on the waterfall that is half way down the screen. We

Re: [Elecraft] P3 - Waterfall Marker?

I think what Steve is asking for is a dot (non-line) marker at the *bottom* of the waterfall and that doesn't have persistence (doesn't "leave a trail"), so that he can line it up with a scrolling signal and then QSY to it before it disappears off the bottom of the screen. It's actually not too

Re: [Elecraft] P3 - Waterfall Marker?

I can usually get close enough to hear the station by eye without a marker, either on the P3 or on a 24" VGA. 73, Vic, 4X6GP/K2VCO Rehovot, Israel http://www.qsl.net/k2vco/ On 4 Nov 2015 20:14, Steve Ellington wrote: All that's needed is a dot, pointer...something to act as a guide so we can

Re: [Elecraft] P3 - Waterfall Marker?

All that's needed is a dot, pointer...something to act as a guide so we can line up the waterfall with the spectrum's marker. It doesn't need to be a translucent line. The dot could be at the bottom of the waterfall since that's where the desired signal is headed anyway. Great minds at Elecraft

Re: [Elecraft] P3 - Waterfall Marker?

I always used fixed mode. Nope doesn't help. There needs to be a marker at least at the bottom of the waterfall so you can mark the signal before it disappears and shift frequency to it. On Wed, Nov 4, 2015 at 1:11 PM, Steve Glickstein wrote: > Try Fixed/Tracking and see

[Elecraft] P3 - Waterfall Marker Question

Am I doing something wrong or is this just how it works? I have the P3's waterfall marker turned on. The "marker" slowly crawls down the screen toward the bottom. Moving the Select knob drags the top of the marker and the rest slowly follows drawing a snake. Cute but...huh? Question: What

Re: [Elecraft] P3 waterfall curser operation

Hi Allan, The short answer is that the hardware doesn't support it. The long answer is that the video chip we are using on the SVGA accessory board limits us to how many "video layers" we can combine to produce the video image. Overlaying the cursors on to the waterfall would require an

Re: [Elecraft] P3 waterfall curser operation

Paul Would it be possible to turn off the the spectrum display and its cursor and add the cursor to the waterfall display? Allan AB8OU *Allan Zadiraka* On Thu, Sep 24, 2015 at 2:11 PM, Paul Saffren wrote: > Hi Allan, > > The short answer is that the hardware doesn't

[Elecraft] P3 waterfall curser operation

I can't get my P3 SVGA to turn on the waterfall cursor. I go to the menu and tap the knob but no cursor appears. Suggestions please... Firmware is up to date. Smith W9HAK __ Elecraft mailing list Home:

Re: [Elecraft] P3 waterfall curser operation

Hi Smith, The P3/SVGA waterfall cursor is incorrectly named, it should read 'waterfall marker" in the release notes. The cursor is not shown in the SVGA waterfall, but if you turn on Marker A or B, they will appear. -Paul -- View this message in context:

Re: [Elecraft] P3 waterfall curser operation

Why is are waterfall cursors not available? They would be much more useful than the frequency spectrum display. *Allan Zadiraka* *AJ ZA**DIRAKA LLC* 4110 State RdAkron, OH 44319Work: 234-738-4578Cell: 330.760.4569Fax: 330.644.1839 On Wed, Sep 23, 2015 at 1:18 PM, Paul

Re: [Elecraft] P3 Waterfall

You can increase the waterfall sensitivity by adjusting the REF LVL to place the noise right at the bottom of the spectrum display and then increasing the SCALE setting. The same REF LVL and SCALE settings are applied to both the spectrum and the waterfall displays. For further details, see

[Elecraft] P3 Waterfall

I recently purchased a new P3/SVGA unit, and am using it with my K3 (serial # 6999).  I have a few questions.  First, when I engage the Marker function and use it in the waterfall window, it comes up on the P3 screen, but not on the external monitor (although it does work on the upper

Re: [Elecraft] P3 Waterfall

On Tue,3/24/2015 12:44 PM, Hunter Ellington via Elecraft wrote: Is there a sensitivity adjustment on the P3 that I need to play with? All of your concerns are answered in the manual. The P3 is a very powerful and versatile product, and the SVGA board increases its capabilities. It's scan

Re: [Elecraft] P3 waterfall legend?

Hi Gary, The signal you are referring to is a STANAG 4285 military transmission from Turkey. The curly things you see in the spectrum is in fact selective fading in the sent spectrum, which is roughly 10 kHz wide. quote 10.1102 MHz-USB-Izmir, Turkey Turkish Navy - STANAG 4285 unquote from:

[Elecraft] P3 waterfall legend?

Is there a resource on the internet where you can look at different screenshots and see what the source is for some of the signals that are translated by the waterfall? I see so many different geometric forms based on the nature of the Rf and they are a mystery to me. CW is pretty easy to

[Elecraft] P3 Waterfall

This is more a educational question. When using the manual notch to take out a constant carrier, I can see the notch take out the carrier on the DSM780 waterfall however, the carrier is still visible on the P3 waterfall. Just wondering why you can't see the same notch effect in the P3 waterfall.

Re: [Elecraft] P3 Waterfall

This is because the P3 waterfall is taken from the IF output. The notch is done with the DSP on the 15KHz IF, not the 8215KHz IF. Chuck - AA3CS On 21 Jan 2011, at 08:15, W4GRJ wrote: This is more a educational question. When using the manual notch to take out a constant carrier, I can see the

[Elecraft] P3 Waterfall

The manual notch is NOT within AGC loop.  cheers, Johnny VR2XMC 寄件人﹕ Chuck Shefflette aa...@me.com 收件人﹕ W4GRJ w4...@satterfield.org 副本(CC) elecraft@mailman.qth.net 傳送日期﹕ 2011/1/21 (五) 9:33:54 PM 主題： Re: [Elecraft] P3 Waterfall This is because the P3

Re: [Elecraft] P3 Waterfall

: [Elecraft] P3 Waterfall This is because the P3 waterfall is taken from the IF output. The notch is done with the DSP on the 15KHz IF, not the 8215KHz IF. Chuck - AA3CS On 21 Jan 2011, at 08:15, W4GRJ wrote: This is more a educational question. When using the manual notch to take out

Re: [Elecraft] P3 - waterfall suggestion

I would not expect any new information outside of the starting display ... Black on the edge would ok until filled in from the top. I just think that would be a much more useful dislay when tuning from the K3 as an alternative to marker QSY. Glen, W6GJB Sent from Gmail for mobile On 8/19/10,

Re: [Elecraft] [P3] Waterfall Display

ke7vwi wrote: Does anyone have a recommendation on an article or some info on using/interpreting the waterfall display? I searched but the following is the best I could find (which isn't great): http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spectrogram A waterfall is basically a spectrum (signal

Re: [Elecraft] P3 - waterfall suggestion

This has been talked about during field testing and has been considered. There were no promises but once things calm down they may have time to get to something like this. ~Brett (N7MG) On Fri, Aug 20, 2010 at 2:12 PM, GLEN BROWN 210g...@gmail.com wrote: I would not expect any new information

[Elecraft] P3 - waterfall suggestion

The P3 waterfall works just like all others I have seen and used: when you tune to radio, the old pixels continue to move down the screen vertically, but do not move horizontally with the tuning. As a result, the waterfall is useless until it catches up a couple of seconds later. If those pixels

Re: [Elecraft] P3 - waterfall suggestion

This is the normal behavior of all waterfall displays I've seen, and is a very familiar screen behavior. The cursor is the means of zeroing a signal of interest which then telegraphs the new frequency back to the K3. Part of the issue of tuning is that the saved information does not include

Re: [Elecraft] P3 - waterfall suggestion

* On 2010 19 Aug 12:30 -0500, Guy Olinger K2AV wrote: This is the normal behavior of all waterfall displays I've seen, and is a very familiar screen behavior. The Fldigi program follows the behavior Glen requests and is what I'd also expect to see when tuning. 73, de Nate -- The optimist

Re: [Elecraft] P3 - waterfall suggestion

And uses the resources of a PC to present it? On Thu, Aug 19, 2010 at 1:44 PM, Nate Bargmann n...@n0nb.us wrote: * On 2010 19 Aug 12:30 -0500, Guy Olinger K2AV wrote: This is the normal behavior of all waterfall displays I've seen, and is a very familiar screen behavior. The Fldigi program

[Elecraft] [P3] Waterfall Display

I have never used a waterfall display before getting my P3 (sn 155). I used spectrum analyzers before. Does anyone have a recommendation on an article or some info on using/interpreting the waterfall display? In the commercial world, never used them just spectrum analyzers. Oh the P3 works

Re: [Elecraft] {P3] Waterfall Resolution

David Gilbert wrote: Of all the various non-SDR applications I tried that are capable of displaying a waterfall (Spectrogram, DigiPan, MixW, MultiPSK, etc) CW Skimmer was heads above the rest, but the recent comments about the sharpness of the P3 display make me wonder if the P3 is

[Elecraft] {P3] Waterfall Resolution

For those who now have a P3 and also use CW Skimmer in one form or another, how do the waterfall displays compare on CW for resolution and scroll rate? I often use CW Skimmer in blind mode with just the audio feed from my K3 to provide a running visual CW display (about 12 to 15 seconds on

[Elecraft] P3 Waterfall Averaging

I hate to be a party pooper, Allen, but I absolutely HATE having the the waterfall average along with the audio scope on ver .031. It makes the noise floor an out of focus blob and all the code coming down through it just a big blur. I would MUCH prefer to have the upper portion ONLY

Re: [Elecraft] P3 Waterfall Averaging

There's an option in the MENU to turn it on or off: Wfall Avg. Alan N1AL On Sun, 2010-08-15 at 18:53 +, The Smiths wrote: I hate to be a party pooper, Allen, but I absolutely HATE having the the waterfall average along with the audio scope on ver .031. It makes the noise floor an

Re: [Elecraft] P3 Waterfall Averaging

on 2 units now that they all continue to drift DOWN in freq. as the day goes on. Subject: Re: [Elecraft] P3 Waterfall Averaging From: a...@elecraft.com To: notforc...@hotmail.com CC: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Date: Sun, 15 Aug 2010 12:01:55 -0700 There's an option in the MENU to turn

Re: [Elecraft] P3 Waterfall Averaging

Alan, I am curious about the algorithm you used for the averaging. Is it just a straightforward, uniformally weighted average or do you use something more sophisticated? , e.g., an exponentially weighted average. Ed, W9EJB -- View this message in context:

Re: [Elecraft] P3 Waterfall Averaging

Ed, It's exponentially weighted. Alan On Sun, 2010-08-15 at 19:31 -0700, Ed, W9EJB wrote: Alan, I am curious about the algorithm you used for the averaging. Is it just a straightforward, uniformally weighted average or do you use something more sophisticated? , e.g., an exponentially