On 6/3/2011 3:06 PM, Jim Lowman wrote:
Recently I ordered a Tablet PC from Amazon, and was surprised
that they shipped it via USPS. What I can't figure out is the
reason that it's scheduled to take until next Wednesday to get
here from the Seattle area. When Amazon has shipped books from
drivers...
Ron AC7AC
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Edward R. Cole wrote:
In my case, the major reason I don't want to sell internationally is
the matter of customs and duties, with the associated paperwork. Here
it's mostly ignorance of what is needed, what the procedures are, etc.
I might look at it differently with a ham I knew as the buyer.
tracked, I don't see any problems.
Similar to you, I am not complaining about anyone here but just curious.
TNX 73,
Johnny VR2XMC
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I
All you have to do is write down the total value (in US$) and an
adequate description. AMATEUR RADIO PARTS is usually close enough.
That's all - you're done.
That works in western countries. However, anything containing radio
is automatically contraband in many countries outside Western
On Fri, Jun 3, 2011 at 8:31 AM, Joe Subich, W4TV li...@subich.com wrote:
...anything containing radio is automatically contraband in many
countries...
...as I discovered while in India. I had my KX1, which had gotten in okay
because they didn't check at customs. I didn't transmit, just
For most shipments, I prefer that the postal worker, UPS or FedEx driver
leave the item on the front porch anyway. Tracking the shipment online,
it's easy to see where the driver might have left the package if it
isn't obvious.
Before we both retired, no one was at home during business hours.
Joe Subich, W4TV wrote:
All you have to do is write down the total value (in US$) and an
adequate description. AMATEUR RADIO PARTS is usually close enough.
That's all - you're done.
That works in western countries. However, anything containing radio
is automatically contraband in many
Sending radios to ZL is fairly safe, because most of the mail workers
can't read, and the stagecoach that carries the mail has a guy with a
six-shooter to fight off the bandits, so the loss rate is zero.
It's a different story with anything containing drugs or porno
though, because that is still
Even though I have the tracking information, as a final courtesy to the
buyer,
I send a follow-up e-mail to ensure not that it arrived, which I know,
but that
it arrived in the condition that it left my possession. I'm not happy
if the
buyer isn't.
Yes, USPS has improved their tracking
You may be aware that the US Postal Service is in dire straits. This
week's Business Week has a thorough article on it.
http://www.businessweek.com/magazine/content/11_23/b4231060885070.htm
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Even though I have the tracking information, as a final courtesy to the
buyer, I send a follow-up e-mail to ensure not that it arrived, which I
know, but that it arrived in the condition that it left my possession. I'm
not happy if the buyer isn't
I am intrigued, I've noticed that when various Elecraft rigs are offered for
private sale on this forum they invariably say Continental USA only.
Why...?
We Europeans also have PayPal, Visa, Bank Transfers etc etc so what's the
problem please?
I just bought a kit accessories direct from
One reason is that sending a package in CONUS (continental US) is a lot easier
and generally cheaper then sending it to other countries or even to Alaska or
Hawaii.
On Jun 2, 2011, at 9:07 AM, Ray Spreadbury wrote:
I am intrigued, I've noticed that when various Elecraft rigs are offered for
If something goes wrong, it's a lot harder to set things right. I sold
a radio into Germany, and never was paid. If I could recall the
details, I might have followed up in a few weeks when we're there, but...
73, doug
On 02-Jun-11 16:12, Phil Hystad wrote:
One reason is that sending a
Payment certainly isn't a problem with PayPal, but
without a PayPal account it can be problematic.
Foreign ... to the US ... money orders or even bank
checks are extremely difficult to process. For example,
a check drawn on a Panama bank would have cost
$75 to deposit into her account.
The problem, generally speaking, is ignorance.In our case, sellers
seem to be completely unaware that Alaska and Hawaii are part of the 50
states. They think we are a foreign country. Some of them don't even
understand that we use the same money! We have all the same services,
the post
I can not understand how going down to the local post
office would be a problem and if the customer pays the
shipping why would that present a problem for the seller,
but then again what do I know?
/ Jim SM2EKM
On 2011-06-02 18:12, Phil Hystad wrote:
One reason is that sending a
On 6/2/2011 10:06 AM, Jan Erik Holm wrote:
I can not understand how going down to the local post
office would be a problem and if the customer pays the
shipping why would that present a problem for the seller,
but then again what do I know?
Shipping via the US Postal Service is not something
USPS is great to buy goods from US. Reasonable cost and I have never had
any issues with them. For transceivers this should be a tracked package.
UPS is more costly but also good.
István Szabó
HA4ZD
On 6/2/2011 7:25 PM, Jim Brown wrote:
On 6/2/2011 10:06 AM, Jan Erik Holm wrote:
I can not
Here in the USA I always choose USPS Priority Mail if given the option. It
usually costs about the same as UPS Ground and is always delivered within two
business days of being shipped. Why pay more?
On Thu, 02 Jun 2011 19:32:42 +0200, István Szabó ha...@t-online.hu wrote:
USPS is great to
2011 18:25
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On 6/2/2011 10:06 AM, Jan Erik Holm wrote:
I can not understand how going down to the local post
office would be a problem and if the customer pays the
shipping why would that present a problem
For some of the big contests, you both ARE foreign countries :-)
Fred K6DGW
Auburn
California Republic [it says so on our Bear Flag]
4 out of 3 people have difficulty with fractions.
On 6/2/2011 10:04 AM, Jim Wiley wrote:
The problem, generally speaking, is ignorance.In our case, sellers
My biggest concern in shipping rigs overseas is the insurance angle.
When I sent a rig to Australia I was told by the USPS that the insurance I had
purchased for the rig would only be good up the the shores of the U.S..once
the package left CONUS the insurance would not cover any damage or
Thanks Jim, you hit the nail on the head, I had a hard time convincing
one gent that the
postage stamp was good to Hawaii, he thought mailing a envelope to here
was even
higher priced. Flat rate priority boxes are the same cost to any of
the 50 states, but
then I find also a lot of hams
But, it is more expensive to send packages to Alaska and Hawaii. And of course
Alaska and Hawaii also have their own DXCC entity identifier separate from the
lower-48 states of the US.
On Jun 2, 2011, at 10:04 AM, Jim Wiley wrote:
The problem, generally speaking, is ignorance.In our
I've shipped to many other countries, not any where the number of countries,
nor item shipped as Elecraft does, however, one strong deterrant is having to
deal with lost, strayed, or undelivered items. Months of time and many hours of
effort, will be spent, in an attempt to correct, or find
It is not necessarily more expensive to ship USPS Priority Mail to AK
and HI. If the parcel is lightweight, use regular Priority Mail, and if
it is heavy, use Priority Mail Flat Rate - no change in the price no
matter what the shipping zone. Weigh the package and go to www.USPS.com
and
Hi all.
I shipped two boxes with assorted small stuff that they needed to my nieces
in Africa via the USPS and I was told that my insurance and
delivery confirmation was only good in the US. I still shipped it anyway.
Both of the boxes never showed up and they didn't get what they wanted and I
was
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Hi all.
I shipped two boxes
.
73
Ray G3XLG
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delivered within 7 days and they didn't have a problem with selling to
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Have to back up what Jim, KL7CC,.said:
Flat-Rate Priority Mail is just that - the same amount to ship to
all 50 states! I use PayPal as it most convenient for selling and
buying (verified funds and almost instantly transferred-no monetary
exchange fees). I can use my credit card with PayPal
Anybody remember the scam where the buyer wanted to overpay by $500 or $1000 or
so,
have a friend in the U.S. handle the shipping and the extra remittance. The
overseas payment bounced, and there was no recourse.
73, Mike NF4L
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I am intrigued, I've noticed that when various Elecraft rigs are offered for
private sale on this forum they invariably say Continental USA only.
Why...?
We Europeans also have PayPal, Visa, Bank
Shipping via the US Postal Service is not something that many of us
would choose to do, especially with something as delicate and valuable
as a ham transceiver. That's a big part of why UPS and Fed Ex exist.
--
=OK, but it is generally cheaper outside CONUS to use USPS vs.
UPS/FedEx.
Let me just add a few bits of information about shipping to the 50th state:
USPS is quite likely the best way to ship to Hawaii (provided you DO NOT ship
Parcel Post or Media Mail -- they can take up to 3 months to get here, even
from places as close as California). Priority Mail and First
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Hi Ray,
Paperwork is not the problem. If you pay for the shipment on-line you can
fill out the simple paperwork
: Thursday, June 02, 2011 2:13 PM
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Hi Ray,
Paperwork is not the problem. If you pay for the shipment on-line you can
fill out the simple paperwork there as well. The real problems with
international
.
TNX 73,
Johnny VR2XMC
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Let me just add a few bits of information about shipping to the 50th state:
USPS is quite likely the best way to ship
And which continent, exactly, are we on? grin
- Jim, KL7CC
Anchorage, AK
David Herring wrote:
Fred,
CONUS means Continental United States. That leaves out Alaska and Hawaii.
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On Thu, Jun 2, 2011 at 8:53 PM, Jim Wiley wrote:
And which continent, exactly, are we on? grin
- Jim, KL7CC
Anchorage, AK
David Herring wrote:
Fred,
CONUS means Continental United States. That leaves out Alaska and
Hawaii.
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And which continent, exactly, are we on? grin
- Jim, KL7CC
Anchorage, AK
David Herring wrote:
Fred,
CONUS
USPS is my preferred shipper. As I have mentioned before,
they are local, they are generally helpful, are probably
your neighbors, and have no interest in keeping you from
insurance claims should the need arise. My mailman has
even run around to the back of my house to place packages
out of the
This is an interesting and educational topic. I haven't yet had to
ship any equipment overseas, but there is a EU ham who wants to buy my
Ten-Tec 526/6N2 transceiver if I decide to sell it (which I haven't -
it's second only to the FT-817 for convenience for portable work).
Though it's a
I have several times sold items to foreign countries. Not too long ago I
sold a few items to a small corner of Europe based on my ad on this list. My
sales through ebay have gone to a variety of countries. In general, when I
see that the buyer is actually a ham, I tend to agree to do it, even if I
On 6/2/2011 6:59 PM, Eugene Balinski wrote:
My mailman has even run around to the back of my house to place
packages out of the rain.
Contrast that with the local UPS driver who will place a
package on the front steps, knock softly, and then run to his
truck to see if he can get away
HI Ray,
Its nothing personal. And its not the hassle really. After getting
stiffed three times on sales for various reasons (I really believe that
there was fraud involved in at least one case) I just can't afford to sell
things to people over seas. Granted it wasn't fellow hams but its just
Erik,
A few comments before Eric S. shuts off this obviously OT discussion --.
Some of your points about excess communications apply no matter whether
the other ham is domestic or in a foreign country - I think we can blame
it more on the anxiety of the recipient rather than anything else.
That's the problem with acronyms and abbreviations - they confuse more than
communicate.
Ron AC7AC
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I believe that CONUS is actually Contiguous United States which does not
include
Hawaii or Alaska even if Alaska is on North America. It also does not
include
Puerto
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That's the problem with acronyms and abbreviations - they confuse more than
communicate.
Ron AC7AC
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I believe that CONUS
Hi all,
A mail forwarding service may be of interest to some of you.
I personally use http://www.shipito.com/www.shipito.com they give you an
address in California and offer great discounts on shipping using USPS Fedex
or DHL.
I checked the price for the same 12x12x12 10 lbs 2000 dollar
I don't suppose you guys heard what the US postman left at one
house while delivering mail on his route. This took place in Portland
Oregon several months ago (I think, maybe more recent then that).
He was in the news again because after being on suspension and
waiting at home, his employer said
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I don't suppose you guys heard what the US postman left at one
house while delivering mail on his route. This took place in Portland
Oregon several months ago (I think, maybe more recent then that).
He
Thanks, ,it sounds interesting to me
TNX 73,
Johnny VR2XMC
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Hi all,
A mail forwarding service may be of interest to some
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