Re: [Elecraft] Temperature or Warmth of KPA500 when "Off" ?

2021-07-02 Thread Walter Underwood
I’m pretty sure the first homebrew project I ever made was a switched outlet strip using utility boxes on a 1x3. Might be worth doing that again and adding some good filtering. wunder K6WRU Walter Underwood CM87wj http://observer.wunderwood.org/ (my blog) > On Jul 2, 2021, at 1:10 AM, Jim

Re: [Elecraft] Temperature or Warmth of KPA500 when "Off" ?

2021-07-02 Thread Jim Brown
On 7/1/2021 2:24 PM, Bob McGraw wrote: One thing that really concerns me is the use of power distribution strips. That's the least of the problems -- the MOVs built into many (most?) strips. advertised as surge protection are more likely to CAUSE destructive failures of interconnected

[Elecraft] Temperature or Warmth of KPA500 when "Off" ?

2021-07-01 Thread Bob McGraw
and power it down using the #3, #2, #1 sequence. 73 Bob, K4TAX Message: 3 Date: Thu, 1 Jul 2021 10:00:27 -0700 From: John Nicholson To: Buck Cc:elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Temperature or Warmth of KPA500 when "Off" ? Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf

Re: [Elecraft] Temperature or Warmth of KPA500 when "Off" ?

2021-07-01 Thread Ken Winterling
I use a sine wave UPS in the shack and an IOTA 55 amp power supply for the rigs is plugged into that. Power blips and short outages do not affect the station with the exception that the KPA500 will drop out since it is running on 240V. The UPS provides more than enough time to safely shut down

Re: [Elecraft] Temperature or Warmth of KPA500 when "Off" ?

2021-07-01 Thread Jim Brown
On 7/1/2021 10:49 AM, Bob McGraw wrote: As to shutting down the Elecraft equipment. It is VERY important to turn the K3 and K3S off at the radio, NOT by killing power it. When turned off, the rig writes its current state to memory, so comes back to where it was when turned on next. If power

Re: [Elecraft] Temperature or Warmth of KPA500 when "Off" ?

2021-07-01 Thread Eric Garner
t; On Behalf Of Ken Winterling > Sent: Thursday, July 1, 2021 11:26 AM > To: John Nicholson > Cc: Elecraft Reflector > Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Temperature or Warmth of KPA500 when "Off" ? > > John, > > You could build a 220/240V outlet with a remote switch using a coupl

Re: [Elecraft] Temperature or Warmth of KPA500 when "Off" ?

2021-07-01 Thread George Thornton
, July 1, 2021 11:26 AM To: John Nicholson Cc: Elecraft Reflector Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Temperature or Warmth of KPA500 when "Off" ? John, You could build a 220/240V outlet with a remote switch using a couple electrical boxes. Ken WA2LBI On Thu, Jul 1, 2021 at 1:01 PM John Nichol

Re: [Elecraft] Temperature or Warmth of KPA500 when "Off" ?

2021-07-01 Thread Ken Winterling
John, You could build a 220/240V outlet with a remote switch using a couple electrical boxes. Ken WA2LBI On Thu, Jul 1, 2021 at 1:01 PM John Nicholson wrote: > Does anyone know if there is such a thing as a 220V power strip? My > searches come up empty handed. I would like to plug the

[Elecraft] Temperature or Warmth of KPA500 when "Off" ?

2021-07-01 Thread Bob McGraw
, elecraft-requ...@mailman.qth.net wrote: Message: 1 Date: Thu, 1 Jul 2021 00:37:49 + From: Tim C To:"Elecraft@mailman.qth.net" Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Temperature or Warmth of KPA500 when "Off" ? Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"

Re: [Elecraft] Temperature or Warmth of KPA500 when "Off" ?

2021-07-01 Thread John Nicholson
Does anyone know if there is such a thing as a 220V power strip? My searches come up empty handed. I would like to plug the KPA500 into the strip to turn it totally on off. The power switch on the back of the amp is inconvenient to reach in my shack. John K7FD > On Jul 1, 2021, at 9:21 AM,

Re: [Elecraft] Temperature or Warmth of KPA500 when "Off" ?

2021-07-01 Thread Buck
Another interesting side note - the 12 volt rail in the K3 is "ON" all the time, even when the K3 is turned off. I found that out when one of the finals developed a partial short and the radio was drawing 2 amps when turned "OFF." If you are not using equipment, find a way to disconnect the

Re: [Elecraft] Temperature or Warmth of KPA500 when "Off" ?

2021-07-01 Thread Hal Massey
Maybe so. But this is an old design. > On Jul 1, 2021, at 04:50, David Woolley wrote: > > I don't think this design would be acceptable in modern consumer equipment, > at least not in Europe. Typically they would have an auxiliary power supply > for the microcontroller, to reduce power

Re: [Elecraft] Temperature or Warmth of KPA500 when "Off" ?

2021-07-01 Thread David Woolley
I don't think this design would be acceptable in modern consumer equipment, at least not in Europe. Typically they would have an auxiliary power supply for the microcontroller, to reduce power consumption to well under 1 watt, and maintain a reasonably good power factor, when in a soft power

Re: [Elecraft] Temperature or Warmth of KPA500 when "Off" ?

2021-06-30 Thread Tim C
I've read this whole thread and I'm confused. I control my KPA500 and KAT500 remotely. When shutting down my station is shutting down the Elecraft equipment adequate remotely? Thanks ES 73 DE TIM WB8HRO __ Elecraft mailing list

Re: [Elecraft] Temperature or Warmth of KPA500 when "Off" ?

2021-06-30 Thread Jack Brindle via Elecraft
I can answer this. It is normal. The microcontroller is on, but sleeping when the rear-panel power switch is on. It needs to run to be able to respond to serial commands and for the front-panel power-on button to work. It is powered by the 5V linear regulator, which is providing the heat you

Re: [Elecraft] Temperature or Warmth of KPA500 when "Off" ?

2021-06-30 Thread Dave
I would assume so, as mine is the same way... So unless both of our KPA500's have failed in the same way, at the same time, it is more than likely normal. A short call to Elecraft will answer your question with more surety. 73, and thanks, Dave (NK7Z) https://www.nk7z.net ARRL Volunteer

[Elecraft] Temperature or Warmth of KPA500 when "Off" ?

2021-06-30 Thread Andy Durbin
"But, is this normal? I assume that there is a small current powering a micro processor and its related circuitry but should it be actually that warm — is there a cpu burning "idle loop" used and thus causing high current flow thru the processor. " My KPA500 draws 0.14 A when "On" and in

Re: [Elecraft] Temperature or Warmth of KPA500 when "Off" ?

2021-06-30 Thread Mike Short
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Re: [Elecraft] Temperature or Warmth of KPA500 when "Off" ?

2021-06-30 Thread Phil Hystad via Elecraft
Yes, there is a master switch. I think I forgot about that. > On Jun 30, 2021, at 8:47 AM, Ken Winterling wrote: > > Phil, > > No need to unplug the KPA500 when not in use. There is a master power > switch on the rear panel that will disconnect everything. > > Ken > WA2LBI > > > > > >

Re: [Elecraft] Temperature or Warmth of KPA500 when "Off" ?

2021-06-30 Thread Dave
Morning Phil, Also living in the NW, (Eugene), do I fully understand your concern... There is a switch in the rear left of the cabinet as seen from the front. I believe that will kill power to most of the amp. 73, and thanks, Dave (NK7Z) https://www.nk7z.net ARRL Volunteer Examiner ARRL

Re: [Elecraft] Temperature or Warmth of KPA500 when "Off" ?

2021-06-30 Thread Ken Winterling
Phil, No need to unplug the KPA500 when not in use. There is a master power switch on the rear panel that will disconnect everything. Ken WA2LBI On Wed, Jun 30, 2021 at 11:41 AM Louandzip via Elecraft < elecraft@mailman.qth.net> wrote: > I use a clamp on ammeter and a short power cord

Re: [Elecraft] Temperature or Warmth of KPA500 when "Off" ?

2021-06-30 Thread Louandzip via Elecraft
I use a clamp on ammeter and a short power cord jumper with the wires separated where I can clamp over the black wire.  That quantitatively tells me the power being consumed/dissipated. Keep in mind temperature is intensive whereas heat is extensive. Lou W7HV On Wednesday, June 30,

[Elecraft] Temperature or Warmth of KPA500 when "Off" ?

2021-06-30 Thread Phil Hystad via Elecraft
Living in the Pacific Northwest and having just gone through a big bath of heat I have become a temperature detective. Anything not being used should not be radiating in the infrared spectrum above surroundings. Thus, all of my radios are off. Or, so I thought. I forgot that the KPA500 was