Re: [Elecraft] What became of the Elecraft's KPA1500 and KPA 800
I believe a firm known as Dishtronic makes the Prometheus amplifier which has most of the characteristics you mention except it does not have a built-in antenna tuner. Unfortunately, its price range is from over $10,000 to more than $13,000, depending on which power supply you select for it, either a switching or analog supply. Of course, it is hardly a mass market item. Bruce-W8FU On Feb 7, 2010, at 4:33 PM, Greg wrote: As far as I know, no one makes a full 1500 watt output, continuous-duty, no time limit, brick on the key amplifier that covers 160-6 meters with full QSK and instant on. It would be nice to have a built in precision wattmeter, too. I'm sure some would also like an auto-tuner, antenna switch w/ memories, dummy load, monitor scope...etc. It could be optioned just like the K3 so cost could be adjusted to the budget of the buyer... 73 de Greg-N4CC -Original Message- From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of westa...@comcast.net Sent: Sunday, February 07, 2010 2:13 PM To: sr...@swbell.net Cc: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] What became of the Elecraft's KPA1500 and KPA 800 Frankly, It seems to me that good QRO amps are a glut on the market. (see THP, etc.) To be competitive in that market, any Elecraft offering would have to be highly innovative and I just don't see much more that can be done. IMHO Doug, W6JD K2 #1626 K3 #23 - Original Message - From: sr...@swbell.net To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Sent: Sunday, February 7, 2010 8:08:37 AM GMT -08:00 US/Canada Pacific Subject: Re: [Elecraft] What became of the Elecraft's KPA1500 and KPA 800 YES! That is exactly the question I would like to ask. I very much looked forward to the release a couple of years ago, and now you can't even get a comment from Elecraft about the situation. IMO, QRO is much more important than all these trivial little toys they are building now. I have a much more pressing need for a KPA- than I do a panadapter (with limited features) and a wattmeter. I have a very nice panadapter that has rig control from the computer, and it didn't cost 700 bucks, and I can control it with the MOUSE. Wayne/Eric, how about some comments on this subject. At least tell us what the future holds for the KPAs. I'm holding off buying a new amp till the KPAs are released. Stan Rife W5EWA -Original Message- From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of DaveVK Sent: Sunday, February 07, 2010 12:21 AM To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: [Elecraft] What became of the Elecraft's KPA1500 and KPA 800 What happened to the Elecraft Amps? Did they get beyond 'proto: gee I want one' stage? -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/What-became-of-the-Elecraft-s-KPA1500-and-KPA-800-tp452 8292p4528292.html Sent from the [OT] mailing list archive at Nabble.com. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 9.0.733 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/2673 - Release Date: 02/07/10 01:22:00 __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] What became of the Elecraft's KPA1500 and KPA 800
I would like to see a 160-6 meter, continuous duty 1500 watt amplifier capable of QSK that was instant on. Greg, The new SPE 2K-FA should meet your wish-list criteria: http://www.radio-ham.eu/download/Leaflet%20Expert%202K-FA%20inglese.pdf I believe it's still awaiting FCC certification. Paul, W9AC __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] What became of the Elecraft's KPA1500 and KPA 800
I don't understand what you mean by export model. We can and could buy an amp that will produce power way over the limit. We just can't transmit over the limit. A Henry 2K will output 1500W and a 3K much more. A 2500W amp driven at 60W to produce legal power is cleaner then an exciter and amp pushed to the limits. The only rule I know of is that the amp won't have ten meters, and you will need to produce a ham license to get a ten meter kit. It must have been the export model. Full legal power in the 60's was 1KW input. Probably near half that out. 73, Rick Dettinger K7MW -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/What-became-of-the-Elecraft-s-KPA1500-and-KPA-800-tp4528292p4535063.html Sent from the [OT] mailing list archive at Nabble.com. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] What became of the Elecraft's KPA1500 and KPA 800
The only rule I know of is that the amp won't have ten meters, and you will need to produce a ham license to get a ten meter kit. On October 4, 2006 the FCC issued a Report and Order that did away with that rule. Now, according to FCC Rules Section 97.317, external amplifiers must not operate between 26 and 28 MHz, and this restriction must not be easily defeated. 73, Lyle KK7P __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] What became of the Elecraft's KPA1500 and KPA 800
Didn't know about that rule change. This is way OT, but... How would you do this and make it not easily defeated? A filter, a trap... Those can be easily bypassed or removed. A microcontroller that calculates the input frequency and only produces an enabling signal when the input frequency is NOT 26-28 MHz? Easy, just supply the enabling signal separately so it's always on. (And what manufacturer would ever go to that ridiculous extreme in design and cost anyway?) I guess it depends on how you define easily. LOL Maybe it's not easily defeated if you have to open the cabinet and use a soldering iron... Bill W5WVO -- From: Lyle Johnson k...@wavecable.com Sent: Monday, February 08, 2010 9:20 AM To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] What became of the Elecraft's KPA1500 and KPA 800 The only rule I know of is that the amp won't have ten meters, and you will need to produce a ham license to get a ten meter kit. On October 4, 2006 the FCC issued a Report and Order that did away with that rule. Now, according to FCC Rules Section 97.317, external amplifiers must not operate between 26 and 28 MHz, and this restriction must not be easily defeated. 73, Lyle KK7P __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] What became of the Elecraft's KPA1500 and KPA 800
I remember building my Heathkit 221.. the gem with the 10 meter trap in it. It was ludicrous the extent they went to make adding 10 meters difficult so you could have a 220 instead. I've always felt if they would have made CB on VHF instead of stealing 11 meters from USA hams, Skip wouldn't have happened on VHF and the CW McAll stimulus to pirate CB Good buddy never would have happened we wouldn't have that silly FCC rule today. It's so outdated, how many CB antennae on cars have you seen in the last 30 days? How many people today would drill a hole in their car to add a CB antenna... Another rule without a cause... Love my K3 Gary KA1J Didn't know about that rule change. This is way OT, but... How would you do this and make it not easily defeated? A filter, a trap... Those can be easily bypassed or removed. A microcontroller that calculates the input frequency and only produces an enabling signal when the input frequency is NOT 26-28 MHz? Easy, just supply the enabling signal separately so it's always on. (And what manufacturer would ever go to that ridiculous extreme in design and cost anyway?) I guess it depends on how you define easily. LOL Maybe it's not easily defeated if you have to open the cabinet and use a soldering iron... Bill W5WVO -- From: Lyle Johnson k...@wavecable.com Sent: Monday, February 08, 2010 9:20 AM To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] What became of the Elecraft's KPA1500 and KPA 800 The only rule I know of is that the amp won't have ten meters, and you will need to produce a ham license to get a ten meter kit. On October 4, 2006 the FCC issued a Report and Order that did away with that rule. Now, according to FCC Rules Section 97.317, external amplifiers must not operate between 26 and 28 MHz, and this restriction must not be easily defeated. 73, Lyle KK7P __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] What became of the Elecraft's KPA1500 and KPA 800
Frankly, It seems to me that good QRO amps are a glut on the market. (see THP, etc.) To be competitive in that market, any Elecraft offering would have to be highly innovative and I just don't see much more that can be done. Gotta disagree with this comment. There is no Elecraft-quality amp kit on the market, indeed, maybe no 800, 1500 watt kits at all. But there are now almost 4000 K3 owners, many looking for amps with straight forward K3 hookups and compatibility with the K3. If you don't think hookup and compatibility of amps with the K3 are not an issue, you're not following the reflector. Furthermore no one competes with Elecraft on customer service. Again this reflector clearly demonstrates lots of interest in Elecraft amps. IMO, QRO is much more important than all these trivial little toys they are building now. I have a much more pressing need for a KPA- than I do a panadapter (with limited features) and a wattmeter. I have a very nice panadapter that has rig control from the computer, and it didn't cost 700 bucks, and I can control it with the MOUSE Gotta agree with this. Elecraft got left in the dust with their panadapter. For $25, I built a Softrock for Elecraft K3 that runs Power SDR If you don't want to.build a Softrock, buy an LP Pan for about $200. Again you can run Power SDR. Either way creates an inexpensive panadapter that provides an amazing visual display significantly larger than the P3 proposes. It provides 2 RX VFOs, even if your K3 has no subreceiver. It provides point and click mouse tuning. And it provides entry to the world of SDR. Elecraft's P3 apparently will not have I and Q jacks. This means no adventures in SDR land for the folks who buy it. It's clear SDR will have a significant role in the future of radio. Wayne, Eric, WE WANT THE AMPS. K4KGG, Larry, K3 # 799 __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] What became of the Elecraft's KPA1500 and KPA 800
Wayne and Eric, You are both smart engineers and business men. Survey your market before you manufacture high power amplifiers with an associated high cost. There are plenty of amplifiers on the market new and old which do exactly what is needed and interfacing is not such a problem. No one wants Elecraft a small company to get into financial trouble. Four thousand K3 owners are not looking for the LPA 800/1500. No matter what some say there are a number of us waiting for the P3!!! It will be your call and we all hope for the best. 73 Doug EI2CN -Original Message- From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Lawrence Libsch Sent: 08 February 2010 20:29 To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] What became of the Elecraft's KPA1500 and KPA 800 Frankly, It seems to me that good QRO amps are a glut on the market. (see THP, etc.) To be competitive in that market, any Elecraft offering would have to be highly innovative and I just don't see much more that can be done. Gotta disagree with this comment. There is no Elecraft-quality amp kit on the market, indeed, maybe no 800, 1500 watt kits at all. But there are now almost 4000 K3 owners, many looking for amps with straight forward K3 hookups and compatibility with the K3. If you don't think hookup and compatibility of amps with the K3 are not an issue, you're not following the reflector. Furthermore no one competes with Elecraft on customer service. Again this reflector clearly demonstrates lots of interest in Elecraft amps. IMO, QRO is much more important than all these trivial little toys they are building now. I have a much more pressing need for a KPA- than I do a panadapter (with limited features) and a wattmeter. I have a very nice panadapter that has rig control from the computer, and it didn't cost 700 bucks, and I can control it with the MOUSE Gotta agree with this. Elecraft got left in the dust with their panadapter. For $25, I built a Softrock for Elecraft K3 that runs Power SDR If you don't want to.build a Softrock, buy an LP Pan for about $200. Again you can run Power SDR. Either way creates an inexpensive panadapter that provides an amazing visual display significantly larger than the P3 proposes. It provides 2 RX VFOs, even if your K3 has no subreceiver. It provides point and click mouse tuning. And it provides entry to the world of SDR. Elecraft's P3 apparently will not have I and Q jacks. This means no adventures in SDR land for the folks who buy it. It's clear SDR will have a significant role in the future of radio. Wayne, Eric, WE WANT THE AMPS. K4KGG, Larry, K3 # 799 __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] What became of the Elecraft's KPA1500 and KPA 800
Hi Greg, I am still looking for the magical amp. Some get close, but not quite there yet. Presently I am using an Acom 2000A. It works very well. Puts out plenty of smoke on 10-160M. I have a few sets of spare tubes so that should not be an issue for quite some time. It has good QSK. It is remoted - the amp is hanging for the basement ceiling about 3' below my feet. It is nice just having the remote control unit in the shack. The service from Acom has been wonderful. The only drawbacks I have with it: - 3 minute warm up time. So, most of the time the amp stays on during low band season (winter). Don't really use the amp much for the high bands. But want the capability if I feel I need it. Most of my non-contest QSO's are barefoot. - No 6M. That is the biggie. I would like to have one amp with everything in one package so my next amp will include 6M. By the way I think the 9500 and 87A are wonderful amps. So is THP 2.5. But they don't run on 6M. The new SPE 2K sure looks interesting. Don't know anything about them, yet. I would like to see Elecraft come out with an amp that meets my needs: - 160 - 6M - Instant ON - Can be remoted and controlled from a PC and/or a remote control head. - Put out 1500W on at least 160-10M and reduced power on 6M. - Can handle continuous duty for RTTY. - None of my antennas need an antenna tuner so not really interested in that feature. And being solid-state I would assume the amp would handle some excursions of SWR without cutting back power. If it comes in kit form I would assume it would be like a K3. I would assume the amplifier boards and the switching power supply boards would come finished and tested as building these could open a can of worms for some. But many could handle the assembly and troubleshooting of high power amps. Maybe it is not cost effective for Elecraft to do this? Maybe there is potential liability with high power unless it is not offered as a kit? Hey, I just may need a new toy? This is just my opinion. It won't even buy me a cup of coffee. 73, N2TK, Tony -Original Message- From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Greg Sent: Sunday, February 07, 2010 4:34 PM To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] What became of the Elecraft's KPA1500 and KPA 800 As far as I know, no one makes a full 1500 watt output, continuous-duty, no time limit, brick on the key amplifier that covers 160-6 meters with full QSK and instant on. It would be nice to have a built in precision wattmeter, too. I'm sure some would also like an auto-tuner, antenna switch w/ memories, dummy load, monitor scope...etc. It could be optioned just like the K3 so cost could be adjusted to the budget of the buyer... 73 de Greg-N4CC -Original Message- From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of westa...@comcast.net Sent: Sunday, February 07, 2010 2:13 PM To: sr...@swbell.net Cc: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] What became of the Elecraft's KPA1500 and KPA 800 Frankly, It seems to me that good QRO amps are a glut on the market. (see THP, etc.) To be competitive in that market, any Elecraft offering would have to be highly innovative and I just don't see much more that can be done. IMHO Doug, W6JD K2 #1626 K3 #23 - Original Message - From: sr...@swbell.net To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Sent: Sunday, February 7, 2010 8:08:37 AM GMT -08:00 US/Canada Pacific Subject: Re: [Elecraft] What became of the Elecraft's KPA1500 and KPA 800 YES! That is exactly the question I would like to ask. I very much looked forward to the release a couple of years ago, and now you can't even get a comment from Elecraft about the situation. IMO, QRO is much more important than all these trivial little toys they are building now. I have a much more pressing need for a KPA- than I do a panadapter (with limited features) and a wattmeter. I have a very nice panadapter that has rig control from the computer, and it didn't cost 700 bucks, and I can control it with the MOUSE. Wayne/Eric, how about some comments on this subject. At least tell us what the future holds for the KPAs. I'm holding off buying a new amp till the KPAs are released. Stan Rife W5EWA -Original Message- From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of DaveVK Sent: Sunday, February 07, 2010 12:21 AM To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: [Elecraft] What became of the Elecraft's KPA1500 and KPA 800 What happened to the Elecraft Amps? Did they get beyond 'proto: gee I want one' stage? -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/What-became-of-the-Elecraft-s-KPA1500-and-KPA-800-tp452 8292p4528292.html Sent from the [OT] mailing list archive at Nabble.com. __ Elecraft mailing list
[Elecraft] What became of the Elecraft's KPA1500 and KPA 800?
Hi All, I'm voting/hoping for the 'KPA500' referenced once by Elecraft (accidentally?) on this reflector last fall. If such a hypothetical amp were to feature a built in A/T, watt meter/swr bridge and built in p/s it would be the ideal complement for my K3 and many more I suspect. And it would be built in the USA and not off-shore. Eric and Wayne, as the voice said in the movie Field of DreamsBuild it and they will come 73 de N1LQ-Dave You'll sell at least one! __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] What became of the Elecraft's KPA1500 and KPA 800
YES! That is exactly the question I would like to ask. I very much looked forward to the release a couple of years ago, and now you can't even get a comment from Elecraft about the situation. IMO, QRO is much more important than all these trivial little toys they are building now. I have a much more pressing need for a KPA- than I do a panadapter (with limited features) and a wattmeter. I have a very nice panadapter that has rig control from the computer, and it didn't cost 700 bucks, and I can control it with the MOUSE. Wayne/Eric, how about some comments on this subject. At least tell us what the future holds for the KPAs. I'm holding off buying a new amp till the KPAs are released. Stan Rife W5EWA -Original Message- From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of DaveVK Sent: Sunday, February 07, 2010 12:21 AM To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: [Elecraft] What became of the Elecraft's KPA1500 and KPA 800 What happened to the Elecraft Amps? Did they get beyond 'proto: gee I want one' stage? -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/What-became-of-the-Elecraft-s-KPA1500-and-KPA-800-tp452 8292p4528292.html Sent from the [OT] mailing list archive at Nabble.com. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 9.0.733 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/2673 - Release Date: 02/07/10 01:22:00 __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] What became of the Elecraft's KPA1500 and KPA 800
Frankly, It seems to me that good QRO amps are a glut on the market. (see THP, etc.) To be competitive in that market, any Elecraft offering would have to be highly innovative and I just don't see much more that can be done. IMHO Doug, W6JD K2 #1626 K3 #23 - Original Message - From: sr...@swbell.net To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Sent: Sunday, February 7, 2010 8:08:37 AM GMT -08:00 US/Canada Pacific Subject: Re: [Elecraft] What became of the Elecraft's KPA1500 and KPA 800 YES! That is exactly the question I would like to ask. I very much looked forward to the release a couple of years ago, and now you can't even get a comment from Elecraft about the situation. IMO, QRO is much more important than all these trivial little toys they are building now. I have a much more pressing need for a KPA- than I do a panadapter (with limited features) and a wattmeter. I have a very nice panadapter that has rig control from the computer, and it didn't cost 700 bucks, and I can control it with the MOUSE. Wayne/Eric, how about some comments on this subject. At least tell us what the future holds for the KPAs. I'm holding off buying a new amp till the KPAs are released. Stan Rife W5EWA -Original Message- From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of DaveVK Sent: Sunday, February 07, 2010 12:21 AM To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: [Elecraft] What became of the Elecraft's KPA1500 and KPA 800 What happened to the Elecraft Amps? Did they get beyond 'proto: gee I want one' stage? -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/What-became-of-the-Elecraft-s-KPA1500-and-KPA-800-tp452 8292p4528292.html Sent from the [OT] mailing list archive at Nabble.com. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 9.0.733 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/2673 - Release Date: 02/07/10 01:22:00 __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] What became of the Elecraft's KPA1500 and KPA 800
As far as I know, no one makes a full 1500 watt output, continuous-duty, no time limit, brick on the key amplifier that covers 160-6 meters with full QSK and instant on. It would be nice to have a built in precision wattmeter, too. I'm sure some would also like an auto-tuner, antenna switch w/ memories, dummy load, monitor scope...etc. It could be optioned just like the K3 so cost could be adjusted to the budget of the buyer... 73 de Greg-N4CC -Original Message- From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of westa...@comcast.net Sent: Sunday, February 07, 2010 2:13 PM To: sr...@swbell.net Cc: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] What became of the Elecraft's KPA1500 and KPA 800 Frankly, It seems to me that good QRO amps are a glut on the market. (see THP, etc.) To be competitive in that market, any Elecraft offering would have to be highly innovative and I just don't see much more that can be done. IMHO Doug, W6JD K2 #1626 K3 #23 - Original Message - From: sr...@swbell.net To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Sent: Sunday, February 7, 2010 8:08:37 AM GMT -08:00 US/Canada Pacific Subject: Re: [Elecraft] What became of the Elecraft's KPA1500 and KPA 800 YES! That is exactly the question I would like to ask. I very much looked forward to the release a couple of years ago, and now you can't even get a comment from Elecraft about the situation. IMO, QRO is much more important than all these trivial little toys they are building now. I have a much more pressing need for a KPA- than I do a panadapter (with limited features) and a wattmeter. I have a very nice panadapter that has rig control from the computer, and it didn't cost 700 bucks, and I can control it with the MOUSE. Wayne/Eric, how about some comments on this subject. At least tell us what the future holds for the KPAs. I'm holding off buying a new amp till the KPAs are released. Stan Rife W5EWA -Original Message- From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of DaveVK Sent: Sunday, February 07, 2010 12:21 AM To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: [Elecraft] What became of the Elecraft's KPA1500 and KPA 800 What happened to the Elecraft Amps? Did they get beyond 'proto: gee I want one' stage? -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/What-became-of-the-Elecraft-s-KPA1500-and-KPA-800-tp452 8292p4528292.html Sent from the [OT] mailing list archive at Nabble.com. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 9.0.733 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/2673 - Release Date: 02/07/10 01:22:00 __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] What became of the Elecraft's KPA1500 and KPA 800
--- On Sun, 2/7/10, Greg n...@cableone.net wrote: From: Greg n...@cableone.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] What became of the Elecraft's KPA1500 and KPA 800 To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Date: Sunday, February 7, 2010, 2:33 PM As far as I know, no one makes a full 1500 watt output, continuous-duty, no time limit, brick on the key amplifier that covers 160-6 meters with full QSK and instant on. It would be nice to have a built in precision wattmeter, too. I'm sure some would also like an auto-tuner, antenna switch w/ memories, dummy load, monitor scope...etc. It could be optioned just like the K3 so cost could be adjusted to the budget of the buyer... As long as your budget was $10,000. l __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] What became of the Elecraft's KPA1500 and KPA 800
As long as your budget was $10,000. :) I think I will continue to turn bandswitch, roller inductor and air-cap knobs, and use the other $9000 for other stuff. -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/What-became-of-the-Elecraft-s-KPA1500-and-KPA-800-tp4528292p4531787.html Sent from the [OT] mailing list archive at Nabble.com. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] What became of the Elecraft's KPA1500 and KPA 800
As far as I know, no one makes a full 1500 watt output, continuous-duty, no time limit, brick on the key amplifier that covers 160-6 meters with full QSK and instant on. It would be nice to have a built in precision wattmeter, too. I mostly operate barefoot, but when I need an amp I find that first 500-600 watts makes a big difference. So I'd like a 500-600 watt amp, full QSK, 160-6 meters with auto band switching when connected to the K3. Use a separate switching power supply to keep everything lightweight so it is easy to take places with you. And keep the autotuner and precision power meter separate as well. Phil - AD5X __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] What became of the Elecraft's KPA1500 and KPA 800
That just ain't gonna happen with a solid state amp. Spend $5K for an Alpha with a pair of 4CX1000A's which will do brick on the key all day and night or the same $5K on an amp that can't (THP 2.5K)? I would encourage Elecraft to drop the whole idea unless they can build and sell an Alpha Class amp for less. Greg wrote: As far as I know, no one makes a full 1500 watt output, continuous-duty, no time limit, brick on the key amplifier that covers 160-6 meters with full QSK and instant on. It would be nice to have a built in precision wattmeter, too. I'm sure some would also like an auto-tuner, antenna switch w/ memories, dummy load, monitor scope...etc. It could be optioned just like the K3 so cost could be adjusted to the budget of the buyer... 73 de Greg-N4CC -Original Message- From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of westa...@comcast.net Sent: Sunday, February 07, 2010 2:13 PM To: sr...@swbell.net Cc: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] What became of the Elecraft's KPA1500 and KPA 800 Frankly, It seems to me that good QRO amps are a glut on the market. (see THP, etc.) To be competitive in that market, any Elecraft offering would have to be highly innovative and I just don't see much more that can be done. IMHO Doug, W6JD K2 #1626 K3 #23 - Original Message - From: sr...@swbell.net To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Sent: Sunday, February 7, 2010 8:08:37 AM GMT -08:00 US/Canada Pacific Subject: Re: [Elecraft] What became of the Elecraft's KPA1500 and KPA 800 YES! That is exactly the question I would like to ask. I very much looked forward to the release a couple of years ago, and now you can't even get a comment from Elecraft about the situation. IMO, QRO is much more important than all these trivial little toys they are building now. I have a much more pressing need for a KPA- than I do a panadapter (with limited features) and a wattmeter. I have a very nice panadapter that has rig control from the computer, and it didn't cost 700 bucks, and I can control it with the MOUSE. Wayne/Eric, how about some comments on this subject. At least tell us what the future holds for the KPAs. I'm holding off buying a new amp till the KPAs are released. Stan Rife W5EWA -Original Message- From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of DaveVK Sent: Sunday, February 07, 2010 12:21 AM To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: [Elecraft] What became of the Elecraft's KPA1500 and KPA 800 What happened to the Elecraft Amps? Did they get beyond 'proto: gee I want one' stage? -- R. Kevin Stover ACØH __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] What became of the Elecraft's KPA1500 and KPA 800
To be inovative, they could make it a full kit, or some assembly required like the K3. I think a full kit would be a little daunting for most of us, so the 2nd option would be better. It/they have a lot of wiz-bang automatic control and proably a lot of surface mount circuitry. It has a built in tuner and I thought that was pretty inovative. There aren't too many amps on the market with built in tuners. AND, it would be Elecraft quality and would match the other Elecraft equipment. Stan Rife W5EWA From: westa...@comcast.net [mailto:westa...@comcast.net] Frankly, It seems to me that good QRO amps are a glut on the market. (see THP, etc.) To be competitive in that market, any Elecraft offering would have to be highly innovative and I just don't see much more that can be done. IMHO Doug, W6JD K2 #1626 K3 #23 - Original Message - From: sr...@swbell.net YES! That is exactly the question I would like to ask. I very much looked forward to the release a couple of years ago, and now you can't even get a comment from Elecraft about the situation. IMO, QRO is much more important than all these trivial little toys they are building now. I have a much more pressing need for a KPA- than I do a panadapter (with limited features) and a wattmeter. I have a very nice panadapter that has rig control from the computer, and it didn't cost 700 bucks, and I can control it with the MOUSE. Wayne/Eric, how about some comments on this subject. At least tell us what the future holds for the KPAs. I'm holding off buying a new amp till the KPAs are released. Stan Rife W5EWA -Original Message- From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net What happened to the Elecraft Amps? Did they get beyond 'proto: gee I want one' stage? __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] What became of the Elecraft's KPA1500 and KPA 800
That is exactly what they designed Greg. It didn't have scope capability, and I am not sure about the dummy load. Stan Rife W5EWA -Original Message- From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Greg As far as I know, no one makes a full 1500 watt output, continuous-duty, no time limit, brick on the key amplifier that covers 160-6 meters with full QSK and instant on. It would be nice to have a built in precision wattmeter, too. I'm sure some would also like an auto-tuner, antenna switch w/ memories, dummy load, monitor scope...etc. It could be optioned just like the K3 so cost could be adjusted to the budget of the buyer... 73 de Greg-N4CC -Original Message- From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of westa...@comcast.net Sent: Sunday, February 07, 2010 2:13 PM To: sr...@swbell.net Cc: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] What became of the Elecraft's KPA1500 and KPA 800 Frankly, It seems to me that good QRO amps are a glut on the market. (see THP, etc.) To be competitive in that market, any Elecraft offering would have to be highly innovative and I just don't see much more that can be done. IMHO Doug, W6JD K2 #1626 K3 #23 - Original Message - From: sr...@swbell.net To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Sent: Sunday, February 7, 2010 8:08:37 AM GMT -08:00 US/Canada Pacific Subject: Re: [Elecraft] What became of the Elecraft's KPA1500 and KPA 800 YES! That is exactly the question I would like to ask. I very much looked forward to the release a couple of years ago, and now you can't even get a comment from Elecraft about the situation. IMO, QRO is much more important than all these trivial little toys they are building now. I have a much more pressing need for a KPA- than I do a panadapter (with limited features) and a wattmeter. I have a very nice panadapter that has rig control from the computer, and it didn't cost 700 bucks, and I can control it with the MOUSE. Wayne/Eric, how about some comments on this subject. At least tell us what the future holds for the KPAs. I'm holding off buying a new amp till the KPAs are released. Stan Rife W5EWA -Original Message- From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of DaveVK Sent: Sunday, February 07, 2010 12:21 AM To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: [Elecraft] What became of the Elecraft's KPA1500 and KPA 800 What happened to the Elecraft Amps? Did they get beyond 'proto: gee I want one' stage? -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/What-became-of-the-Elecraft-s-KPA1500-and-KPA-800-tp452 8292p4528292.html Sent from the [OT] mailing list archive at Nabble.com. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 9.0.733 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/2673 - Release Date: 02/07/10 01:22:00 __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 9.0.733 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/2673 - Release Date: 02/07/10 01:22:00 __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] What became of the Elecraft's KPA1500 and KPA 800
Alpha 8410 - $5K, but you have to tune it, and your grandchildren will, because it will outlast you. Alpha 9500 - $8K, and you will still be dead while it still works, but the grandchildren don't have to tune it at all. Pretty boring for them. :) The fact is, for people that have the money, it will be hard to convince them not to buy an Alpha 9500. It is the amp most of us would love to have. At the same time, I can get full legal power out of my Henry that was made in the 60's. It just takes turning knobs. :) Spend $5K for an Alpha with a pair of 4CX1000A's which will do brick on the key all day and night or the same $5K on an amp that can't (THP 2.5K)? I would encourage Elecraft to drop the whole idea unless they can build and sell an Alpha Class amp for less. -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/What-became-of-the-Elecraft-s-KPA1500-and-KPA-800-tp4528292p4532117.html Sent from the [OT] mailing list archive at Nabble.com. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] What became of the Elecraft's KPA1500 and KPA 800
Ah, I don't think so. They were going to be a little less than half that, if my memory serves me correctly. Stan Rife W5EWA -Original Message- From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Bob - W0GI As long as your budget was $10,000. :) I think I will continue to turn bandswitch, roller inductor and air-cap knobs, and use the other $9000 for other stuff. -- __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] What became of the Elecraft's KPA1500 and KPA 800
If the goal was a 100% duty cycle 1500W amp for $5000, then the answer why it wasn't produced, has been given. It's not going to happen by anyone, unless they like losing money. Was going to be half of that, are two different things. The was part didn't happen, and won't happen. Check the prices of the mosfets and power supply needed, and it will become obvious. Apha has the RD money, but they haven't done a SS 1.5KW amp, because it isn't cost effective. Not only that, but why would anyone want an amp that would require 3 times the money to replace mosfets, as opossed to a ceramic tube, that will take a lot more abuse and be less prone to failure, and probably last a lifetime? Just the way it is.. Ah, I don't think so. They were going to be a little less than half that, if my memory serves me correctly. Stan Rife W5EWA -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/What-became-of-the-Elecraft-s-KPA1500-and-KPA-800-tp4528292p4532167.html Sent from the [OT] mailing list archive at Nabble.com. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] What became of the Elecraft's KPA1500 and KPA 800
Apparently someone thinks it is cost effective. What would you need 100% duty cycle at 1500 watts for anyway? We don't have broadcast licences. I don't think Elecraft was trying to achieve that anyway. http://www.steppir.com/SteppirSPE.html This is the 1K model. SteppIR is just the dealer. It's only rated for 5 minutes at half power. That's probably enough for a digital QSO. SPE's website says they have a 2K model that puts out double the power of the 1K. Stan Rife W5EWA -Original Message- From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Bob - W0GI If the goal was a 100% duty cycle 1500W amp for $5000, then the answer why it wasn't produced, has been given. It's not going to happen by anyone, unless they like losing money. Was going to be half of that, are two different things. The was part didn't happen, and won't happen. Check the prices of the mosfets and power supply needed, and it will become obvious. Apha has the RD money, but they haven't done a SS 1.5KW amp, because it isn't cost effective. Not only that, but why would anyone want an amp that would require 3 times the money to replace mosfets, as opossed to a ceramic tube, that will take a lot more abuse and be less prone to failure, and probably last a lifetime? Just the way it is.. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] What became of the Elecraft's KPA1500 and KPA 800
Apparently someone thinks it is cost effective. What would you need 100% duty cycle at 1500 watts for anyway? We don't have broadcast licences. I don't think Elecraft was trying to achieve that anyway. Are you trying to argue here? Why do I even need 100W? I work a lot of stations on the K1 at 5 watts. But beyond that, someone that wants to use full legal power, will want 100% duty cycle on CW and digital at full legal power. 100% unlimited transmit power at 1500 watts, 24x7 if they so desire. Maybe you aren't trying to argue, but I am talking about full power SS, not something less. The fact is, either Alpha will do 1500 watts, on any mode, continuously 24x7 for years, and not minutes. I like to argue, if you could tell me what I am arguing about. :) -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/What-became-of-the-Elecraft-s-KPA1500-and-KPA-800-tp4528292p4532343.html Sent from the [OT] mailing list archive at Nabble.com. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] What became of the Elecraft's KPA1500 and KPA 800
I wasn't trying to create an argument. I was expressing a desire to see my wish list amp. I don't know what Elecraft has/had planned. I never said anything about $5000 or $1. I never said anything about Alpha I never said anything about MOSFETS I said I would like to see a 160-6 meter, continuous duty 1500 watt amplifier capable of QSK that was instant on. The current Alphas don't cover 6 meters nor are either one of them instant on. Continuous duty doesn't mean someone has to run the amp all the time. But if it is built to that spec, it will handle anything I would ever use it for and do it with headroom. I like that. 73 de Greg-N4CC -Original Message- From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Bob - W0GI Sent: Sunday, February 07, 2010 9:42 PM To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] What became of the Elecraft's KPA1500 and KPA 800 Apparently someone thinks it is cost effective. What would you need 100% duty cycle at 1500 watts for anyway? We don't have broadcast licences. I don't think Elecraft was trying to achieve that anyway. Are you trying to argue here? Why do I even need 100W? I work a lot of stations on the K1 at 5 watts. But beyond that, someone that wants to use full legal power, will want 100% duty cycle on CW and digital at full legal power. 100% unlimited transmit power at 1500 watts, 24x7 if they so desire. Maybe you aren't trying to argue, but I am talking about full power SS, not something less. The fact is, either Alpha will do 1500 watts, on any mode, continuously 24x7 for years, and not minutes. I like to argue, if you could tell me what I am arguing about. :) -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/What-became-of-the-Elecraft-s-KPA1500-and-KPA-800-tp452 8292p4532343.html Sent from the [OT] mailing list archive at Nabble.com. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] What became of the Elecraft's KPA1500 and KPA 800
Greg, You have some serious expectations for a full power amplifier? My Henry is instant on, but it doesn't do 6 meters. You also have to tune it. That pig was made in the 60's, and still puts out full legal power. Go figure? 73 - Bob. -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/What-became-of-the-Elecraft-s-KPA1500-and-KPA-800-tp4528292p4532425.html Sent from the [OT] mailing list archive at Nabble.com. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] What became of the Elecraft's KPA1500 and KPA 800
Good deal Greg. Yeah, I read your email ok. I was just trying to express my desire for Elecraft to go ahead and produce the KPA's. I guess I mis-stated something and that shook the trees too hard. There are a lot of experts on here. :-) Stan Rife W5EWA -Original Message- From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Greg Sent: Sunday, February 07, 2010 11:23 PM To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] What became of the Elecraft's KPA1500 and KPA 800 I wasn't trying to create an argument. I was expressing a desire to see my wish list amp. I don't know what Elecraft has/had planned. I never said anything about $5000 or $1. I never said anything about Alpha I never said anything about MOSFETS I said I would like to see a 160-6 meter, continuous duty 1500 watt amplifier capable of QSK that was instant on. The current Alphas don't cover 6 meters nor are either one of them instant on. Continuous duty doesn't mean someone has to run the amp all the time. But if it is built to that spec, it will handle anything I would ever use it for and do it with headroom. I like that. 73 de Greg-N4CC -Original Message- From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Bob - W0GI Sent: Sunday, February 07, 2010 9:42 PM To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] What became of the Elecraft's KPA1500 and KPA 800 Apparently someone thinks it is cost effective. What would you need 100% duty cycle at 1500 watts for anyway? We don't have broadcast licences. I don't think Elecraft was trying to achieve that anyway. Are you trying to argue here? Why do I even need 100W? I work a lot of stations on the K1 at 5 watts. But beyond that, someone that wants to use full legal power, will want 100% duty cycle on CW and digital at full legal power. 100% unlimited transmit power at 1500 watts, 24x7 if they so desire. Maybe you aren't trying to argue, but I am talking about full power SS, not something less. The fact is, either Alpha will do 1500 watts, on any mode, continuously 24x7 for years, and not minutes. I like to argue, if you could tell me what I am arguing about. :) -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/What-became-of-the-Elecraft-s-KPA1500-and-KPA-800-tp452 8292p4532343.html Sent from the [OT] mailing list archive at Nabble.com. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 9.0.733 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/2673 - Release Date: 02/07/10 13:35:00 __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] What became of the Elecraft's KPA1500 and KPA 800
It must have been the export model. Full legal power in the 60's was 1KW input. Probably near half that out. 73, Rick Dettinger K7MW That pig was made in the 60's, and still puts out full legal power. Go figure? 73 - Bob. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
