Re: [Elecraft] Inventorying a K3/P3

2021-03-30 Thread Dave Cole

Bill, thank you, Keith gave me the needed info!  No need to call.

73, and thanks,
Dave (NK7Z)
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On 3/29/21 9:58 PM, Bill Johnson wrote:

Given what I have read on the reflector, try calling.  There are so may impatient dolts, 
I can understand there situation. All the stupid "when will I get mine" I am 
sure have bogged down their inbox.  Not to say phone messages aren't as well.  But who 
knows

Bill
K9YEQ

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Sent: Monday, March 29, 2021 10:43 PMTo: Brian Hunt 

Cc: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Inventorying a K3/P3

Hi Brian,

Thank you for the suggestions, and the tidbits of the additional steps for add 
on items like new synths, etc.  I have saved your email.

I have sent Elecraft three seperate email requests across three weeks, and 
gotten precisely zero replies from supp...@elecraft.com address...

Very dissapointing, not even an acknoledgment they got the mail...  It is like 
firing email into a black hole...

I just resent the 4th request, this time to sales, support, and webmaster in 
hopes I can get in touch with someone at the Elecraft!

I understand things are busy, and I understadn things are diffucult to to 
COVID, etc., but three weeks, and three requests later I am getting very 
frustrated.

73, and thanks,
Dave (NK7Z)
https://www.nk7z.net


On 3/29/21 5:12 PM, Brian Hunt wrote:

Dave,
There have also been numerous component adds/mods over the years. Three that I 
did a couple years ago are 1. Increase the 12vdc accessory power from 500 ma to 
1 A. Evidence is a 1A sticker on the rear of the K3. 2. Add a capacitor to the 
KPA3 to eliminate fan noise pickup evident after the new synthesizers are 
installed. 3. Addition of a capacitor to the KBPF3 general coverage BPFs to 
extend coverage down to the 630 meter band. I’m sure there are others. See the 
mod instructions available on the Elecraft site if you go sleuthing inside the 
box. These are a bit inconsequential but add value to the K3.

Have you thought about asking Elecraft for the work orders for the K3’s S/N?

Good luck and thank you for helping out the family. Sorry you lost a friend.

73,
Brian, K0DTJ




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Re: [Elecraft] Inventorying a K3/P3

2021-03-30 Thread Dave Cole

That is a hell of a good idea!

73, and thanks,
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On 3/30/21 6:35 AM, Geert Jan de Groot wrote:

Hi,

First off, sorry for your loss.


As to options, and especially modifications, I very much would like 
Elecraft to give each modification a number so there can be a sticker in 
a radio that says:


This radio has the following modifications: 01, 02, 03, 04, 06, 08, 12.

That would make these things much easier.

For K2, K3, and the KX-en too late, but perhaps for the K4 this can and 
should be done?


Geert Jan

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Re: [Elecraft] Inventorying a K3/P3 nk7z

2021-03-30 Thread Dave Cole

Keith,

First off, thank you very much for the reply!  I do appreciate it greatly!

That is the info I needed!  I now know the menus will give me most of 
what I need.  As far as I know the radio has not been reset, nor has 
anyone been in it!  That makes things a lot simpler!  I do thank you 
sir!  Take care, and and stay safe!  Again, thank you.


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On 3/30/21 9:22 AM, Keith Trinity WE6R wrote:

Hi Dave;
Since it was here less than a year ago, no need to send it for updates.
If it hasn't been altered, you can get all the options/filters from the 
menus.
If it has been reset for some reason, we can send you the configuration 
file to re-load that was saved at last service.


We don't inventory every radio, but you could load that file into the 
radio and then go thru the menus.
This would be a fairly accurate list unless you believe he 
removed/changed any filters or options, in which case you will have to 
open it up and take out the Sub receiver and open the sub receiver to 
inventory all items.


Someone could also load that file into another radio (I believe it is 
advanced mode of the K3 Utility lets you skip past the serial # 
mismatch) then look thru the menus. Don't forget to save the host 
radio's config file before doing this so you can restore it!

Keith WE6R K3/K4 Tech.


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Re: [Elecraft] Inventorying a K3/P3 nk7z

2021-03-30 Thread Keith Trinity WE6R

Hi Dave;
Since it was here less than a year ago, no need to send it for updates.
If it hasn't been altered, you can get all the options/filters from the 
menus.
If it has been reset for some reason, we can send you the configuration 
file to re-load that was saved at last service.


We don't inventory every radio, but you could load that file into the 
radio and then go thru the menus.
This would be a fairly accurate list unless you believe he 
removed/changed any filters or options, in which case you will have to 
open it up and take out the Sub receiver and open the sub receiver to 
inventory all items.


Someone could also load that file into another radio (I believe it is 
advanced mode of the K3 Utility lets you skip past the serial # 
mismatch) then look thru the menus. Don't forget to save the host 
radio's config file before doing this so you can restore it!

Keith WE6R K3/K4 Tech.

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Re: [Elecraft] Inventorying a K3/P3

2021-03-30 Thread Geert Jan de Groot

Hi,

First off, sorry for your loss.


As to options, and especially modifications, I very much would like 
Elecraft to give each modification a number so there can be a sticker in 
a radio that says:


This radio has the following modifications: 01, 02, 03, 04, 06, 08, 12.

That would make these things much easier.

For K2, K3, and the KX-en too late, but perhaps for the K4 this can and 
should be done?


Geert Jan

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Re: [Elecraft] Inventorying a K3/P3

2021-03-29 Thread Julia Tuttle
I wouldn't go so far as to call them "dolts" -- Elecraft *is* currently
running far behind reasonable expectations for turnaround time, and asking
for an update is a reasonable response to that.

I'm happy to cut them some slack, and I hope others will be as well, but
it's a lot easier to do that patiently when we (a) know our emails will
actually get a response and (b) know how long to expect things to take.

 73,

Julie

On Tue, Mar 30, 2021 at 12:59 AM Bill Johnson  wrote:

> Given what I have read on the reflector, try calling.  There are so may
> impatient dolts, I can understand there situation. All the stupid "when
> will I get mine" I am sure have bogged down their inbox.  Not to say phone
> messages aren't as well.  But who knows
>
> Bill
> K9YEQ
>
> -Original Message-
> From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net 
> On Behalf Of Dave Cole
> Sent: Monday, March 29, 2021 10:43 PMTo: Brian Hunt <
> huntin...@coastside.net>
> Cc: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Inventorying a K3/P3
>
> Hi Brian,
>
> Thank you for the suggestions, and the tidbits of the additional steps for
> add on items like new synths, etc.  I have saved your email.
>
> I have sent Elecraft three seperate email requests across three weeks, and
> gotten precisely zero replies from supp...@elecraft.com address...
>
> Very dissapointing, not even an acknoledgment they got the mail...  It is
> like firing email into a black hole...
>
> I just resent the 4th request, this time to sales, support, and webmaster
> in hopes I can get in touch with someone at the Elecraft!
>
> I understand things are busy, and I understadn things are diffucult to to
> COVID, etc., but three weeks, and three requests later I am getting very
> frustrated.
>
> 73, and thanks,
> Dave (NK7Z)
> https://www.nk7z.net
>
>
> On 3/29/21 5:12 PM, Brian Hunt wrote:
> > Dave,
> > There have also been numerous component adds/mods over the years. Three
> that I did a couple years ago are 1. Increase the 12vdc accessory power
> from 500 ma to 1 A. Evidence is a 1A sticker on the rear of the K3. 2. Add
> a capacitor to the KPA3 to eliminate fan noise pickup evident after the new
> synthesizers are installed. 3. Addition of a capacitor to the KBPF3 general
> coverage BPFs to extend coverage down to the 630 meter band. I’m sure there
> are others. See the mod instructions available on the Elecraft site if you
> go sleuthing inside the box. These are a bit inconsequential but add value
> to the K3.
> >
> > Have you thought about asking Elecraft for the work orders for the K3’s
> S/N?
> >
> > Good luck and thank you for helping out the family. Sorry you lost a
> friend.
> >
> > 73,
> > Brian, K0DTJ
> >
> >
> >
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Re: [Elecraft] Inventorying a K3/P3

2021-03-29 Thread Bill Johnson
Given what I have read on the reflector, try calling.  There are so may 
impatient dolts, I can understand there situation. All the stupid "when will I 
get mine" I am sure have bogged down their inbox.  Not to say phone messages 
aren't as well.  But who knows

Bill
K9YEQ

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Behalf Of Dave Cole
Sent: Monday, March 29, 2021 10:43 PMTo: Brian Hunt 

Cc: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Inventorying a K3/P3

Hi Brian,

Thank you for the suggestions, and the tidbits of the additional steps for add 
on items like new synths, etc.  I have saved your email.

I have sent Elecraft three seperate email requests across three weeks, and 
gotten precisely zero replies from supp...@elecraft.com address...

Very dissapointing, not even an acknoledgment they got the mail...  It is like 
firing email into a black hole...

I just resent the 4th request, this time to sales, support, and webmaster in 
hopes I can get in touch with someone at the Elecraft!

I understand things are busy, and I understadn things are diffucult to to 
COVID, etc., but three weeks, and three requests later I am getting very 
frustrated.

73, and thanks,
Dave (NK7Z)
https://www.nk7z.net


On 3/29/21 5:12 PM, Brian Hunt wrote:
> Dave,
> There have also been numerous component adds/mods over the years. Three that 
> I did a couple years ago are 1. Increase the 12vdc accessory power from 500 
> ma to 1 A. Evidence is a 1A sticker on the rear of the K3. 2. Add a capacitor 
> to the KPA3 to eliminate fan noise pickup evident after the new synthesizers 
> are installed. 3. Addition of a capacitor to the KBPF3 general coverage BPFs 
> to extend coverage down to the 630 meter band. I’m sure there are others. See 
> the mod instructions available on the Elecraft site if you go sleuthing 
> inside the box. These are a bit inconsequential but add value to the K3.
> 
> Have you thought about asking Elecraft for the work orders for the K3’s S/N?
> 
> Good luck and thank you for helping out the family. Sorry you lost a friend.
> 
> 73,
> Brian, K0DTJ
> 
> 
> 
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Re: [Elecraft] Inventorying a K3/P3

2021-03-29 Thread Dave Cole

Hi Brian,

Thank you for the suggestions, and the tidbits of the additional steps 
for add on items like new synths, etc.  I have saved your email.


I have sent Elecraft three seperate email requests across three weeks, 
and gotten precisely zero replies from supp...@elecraft.com address...


Very dissapointing, not even an acknoledgment they got the mail...  It 
is like firing email into a black hole...


I just resent the 4th request, this time to sales, support, and 
webmaster in hopes I can get in touch with someone at the Elecraft!


I understand things are busy, and I understadn things are diffucult to 
to COVID, etc., but three weeks, and three requests later I am getting 
very frustrated.


73, and thanks,
Dave (NK7Z)
https://www.nk7z.net


On 3/29/21 5:12 PM, Brian Hunt wrote:

Dave,
There have also been numerous component adds/mods over the years. Three that I 
did a couple years ago are 1. Increase the 12vdc accessory power from 500 ma to 
1 A. Evidence is a 1A sticker on the rear of the K3. 2. Add a capacitor to the 
KPA3 to eliminate fan noise pickup evident after the new synthesizers are 
installed. 3. Addition of a capacitor to the KBPF3 general coverage BPFs to 
extend coverage down to the 630 meter band. I’m sure there are others. See the 
mod instructions available on the Elecraft site if you go sleuthing inside the 
box. These are a bit inconsequential but add value to the K3.

Have you thought about asking Elecraft for the work orders for the K3’s S/N?

Good luck and thank you for helping out the family. Sorry you lost a friend.

73,
Brian, K0DTJ




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Re: [Elecraft] Inventorying a K3/P3

2021-03-29 Thread Brian Hunt
Dave, 
There have also been numerous component adds/mods over the years. Three that I 
did a couple years ago are 1. Increase the 12vdc accessory power from 500 ma to 
1 A. Evidence is a 1A sticker on the rear of the K3. 2. Add a capacitor to the 
KPA3 to eliminate fan noise pickup evident after the new synthesizers are 
installed. 3. Addition of a capacitor to the KBPF3 general coverage BPFs to 
extend coverage down to the 630 meter band. I’m sure there are others. See the 
mod instructions available on the Elecraft site if you go sleuthing inside the 
box. These are a bit inconsequential but add value to the K3. 

Have you thought about asking Elecraft for the work orders for the K3’s S/N?

Good luck and thank you for helping out the family. Sorry you lost a friend. 

73,
Brian, K0DTJ



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Re: [Elecraft] Inventorying a K3/P3

2021-03-29 Thread Dave Cole

Hi Rick,
Thank you for the tips!  I will miss the him, I knew him for 50 years... 
 We ended up living maybe 700 feet from each other about 40 years ago, 
all by chance...


73, and thanks,
Dave (NK7Z)
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On 3/29/21 10:34 AM, Rick NK7I wrote:

Dave,

The menu settings would be a good place to start, confirmed by taking 
the cover off.  One receiver is covered by the other, so some 
disassembly is required for the visual of the filters.  Then tuner, 
which i/o board etc.


For the P3, the options are the SVGA board and the TX board.

Sorry for your loss,
Rick NK7I


On 3/29/2021 10:30 AM, John Simmons wrote:

Dave,

This topic was recently covered either here or another reflector I 
subscribe to.


There isn't a very good way to properly find all the options installed 
other than pulling the cover to see. There are two programs that may 
help: The Elecraft K3 Utility program and K3_EZ: 
https://groups.io/g/Elecraft-K3/files/K3_EZ


-de John NI0K


Dave Cole wrote on 3/29/2021 12:18 PM:

Hi,

I am about to take a look at a K3 which a SK estate has asked me to 
sell for them.  It was a friend of mine, for of many decades that 
passed, and his children and wife have now decided to sell the K3/P3.


I need to inventory the K3 to see what all is in it...  Aside from 
the obvious, and what I know about the rig, (I helped him go over the 
rig when he got it, and before he purchased it), are there any tell 
tail signs in the configuration menu I should look for?


What I know is the following:

K3, with second receiver
New synths in it for each RX.
10 MHz input for external reference.
Elecraft has gone over it and put the gold contacts in it.
Early serial number

I will be visiting the rig later this week, so I am looking for any 
tips...  Private email is fine if you don't want to clog up the 
reflector.


I had thought of sending it to Elecraft and have them look it over 
for a list of items, but with the extended return times of late, I 
think I'll advise the family to wait a bit on that option.


It was just at Elecraft less than a year or so ago, and blessed by 
them, so it should still be in good shape...  Anyway, if you can 
think of things to look for, I am all ears...




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Re: [Elecraft] Inventorying a K3/P3

2021-03-29 Thread Dave Cole

Thanks sir!!!  I will look for them.

73, and thanks,
Dave (NK7Z)
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On 3/29/21 10:30 AM, John Simmons wrote:

Dave,

This topic was recently covered either here or another reflector I 
subscribe to.


There isn't a very good way to properly find all the options installed 
other than pulling the cover to see. There are two programs that may 
help: The Elecraft K3 Utility program and K3_EZ: 
https://groups.io/g/Elecraft-K3/files/K3_EZ


-de John NI0K


Dave Cole wrote on 3/29/2021 12:18 PM:

Hi,

I am about to take a look at a K3 which a SK estate has asked me to 
sell for them.  It was a friend of mine, for of many decades that 
passed, and his children and wife have now decided to sell the K3/P3.


I need to inventory the K3 to see what all is in it...  Aside from the 
obvious, and what I know about the rig, (I helped him go over the rig 
when he got it, and before he purchased it), are there any tell tail 
signs in the configuration menu I should look for?


What I know is the following:

K3, with second receiver
New synths in it for each RX.
10 MHz input for external reference.
Elecraft has gone over it and put the gold contacts in it.
Early serial number

I will be visiting the rig later this week, so I am looking for any 
tips...  Private email is fine if you don't want to clog up the 
reflector.


I had thought of sending it to Elecraft and have them look it over for 
a list of items, but with the extended return times of late, I think 
I'll advise the family to wait a bit on that option.


It was just at Elecraft less than a year or so ago, and blessed by 
them, so it should still be in good shape...  Anyway, if you can think 
of things to look for, I am all ears...




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Re: [Elecraft] Inventorying a K3/P3

2021-03-29 Thread Rick NK7I

Dave,

The menu settings would be a good place to start, confirmed by taking 
the cover off.  One receiver is covered by the other, so some 
disassembly is required for the visual of the filters.  Then tuner, 
which i/o board etc.


For the P3, the options are the SVGA board and the TX board.

Sorry for your loss,
Rick NK7I


On 3/29/2021 10:30 AM, John Simmons wrote:

Dave,

This topic was recently covered either here or another reflector I 
subscribe to.


There isn't a very good way to properly find all the options installed 
other than pulling the cover to see. There are two programs that may 
help: The Elecraft K3 Utility program and K3_EZ: 
https://groups.io/g/Elecraft-K3/files/K3_EZ


-de John NI0K


Dave Cole wrote on 3/29/2021 12:18 PM:

Hi,

I am about to take a look at a K3 which a SK estate has asked me to 
sell for them.  It was a friend of mine, for of many decades that 
passed, and his children and wife have now decided to sell the K3/P3.


I need to inventory the K3 to see what all is in it...  Aside from 
the obvious, and what I know about the rig, (I helped him go over the 
rig when he got it, and before he purchased it), are there any tell 
tail signs in the configuration menu I should look for?


What I know is the following:

K3, with second receiver
New synths in it for each RX.
10 MHz input for external reference.
Elecraft has gone over it and put the gold contacts in it.
Early serial number

I will be visiting the rig later this week, so I am looking for any 
tips...  Private email is fine if you don't want to clog up the 
reflector.


I had thought of sending it to Elecraft and have them look it over 
for a list of items, but with the extended return times of late, I 
think I'll advise the family to wait a bit on that option.


It was just at Elecraft less than a year or so ago, and blessed by 
them, so it should still be in good shape...  Anyway, if you can 
think of things to look for, I am all ears...




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Re: [Elecraft] Inventorying a K3/P3

2021-03-29 Thread John Simmons

Dave,

This topic was recently covered either here or another reflector I 
subscribe to.


There isn't a very good way to properly find all the options installed 
other than pulling the cover to see. There are two programs that may 
help: The Elecraft K3 Utility program and K3_EZ: 
https://groups.io/g/Elecraft-K3/files/K3_EZ


-de John NI0K


Dave Cole wrote on 3/29/2021 12:18 PM:

Hi,

I am about to take a look at a K3 which a SK estate has asked me to 
sell for them.  It was a friend of mine, for of many decades that 
passed, and his children and wife have now decided to sell the K3/P3.


I need to inventory the K3 to see what all is in it...  Aside from the 
obvious, and what I know about the rig, (I helped him go over the rig 
when he got it, and before he purchased it), are there any tell tail 
signs in the configuration menu I should look for?


What I know is the following:

K3, with second receiver
New synths in it for each RX.
10 MHz input for external reference.
Elecraft has gone over it and put the gold contacts in it.
Early serial number

I will be visiting the rig later this week, so I am looking for any 
tips...  Private email is fine if you don't want to clog up the 
reflector.


I had thought of sending it to Elecraft and have them look it over for 
a list of items, but with the extended return times of late, I think 
I'll advise the family to wait a bit on that option.


It was just at Elecraft less than a year or so ago, and blessed by 
them, so it should still be in good shape...  Anyway, if you can think 
of things to look for, I am all ears...




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