Re: [Election-Methods] delegate cascade

2008-07-27 Thread Abd ul-Rahman Lomax
At 07:26 AM 7/22/2008, Michael Allan wrote: I'm grateful I was directed to this list. You're clearly experts. I wish I could reply more completely right away (I should know better than to start 2 separate threads). I'll just reply to Juho's questions today, and tomorrow I'll look at Abd's

Re: [Election-Methods] delegate cascade

2008-07-27 Thread Abd ul-Rahman Lomax
At 03:49 PM 7/22/2008, Juho wrote: On Jul 22, 2008, at 14:26 , Michael Allan wrote: What is btw the reason that there were no arrows forward from the two leading candidates in the election snapshot picture in the references page? Did they abstain or were their votes (not even their own vote)

Re: [Election-Methods] delegate cascade

2008-07-27 Thread Abd ul-Rahman Lomax
At 03:59 AM 7/23/2008, Michael Allan wrote: Juho wrote: What is btw the reason that there were no arrows forward from the two leading candidates in the election snapshot picture in the references page? Did they abstain or were their votes (not even their own vote) not cascaded forward

Re: [Election-Methods] delegate cascade

2008-07-27 Thread Juho
On Jul 26, 2008, at 12:41 , Michael Allan wrote: OK. The dynamic is complex, and hard to predict. I'm curious to see what happens in reality. Marcus Pivato said there's no way to model this stuff in vitro (simulations), we have to run it in vivo. I think it is possible to find and study

Re: [Election-Methods] delegate cascade

2008-07-25 Thread Juho
On Jul 24, 2008, at 9:05 , Michael Allan wrote: Rankings are determined by votes incoming, not votes held. This is crucial. (It was only decided a couple of releases ago, so there may inconstencies in the docs.) Ok, this seems to bring the model closer to what Kristofer Munsterhjelm

Re: [Election-Methods] delegate cascade

2008-07-24 Thread Michael Allan
Juho wrote: http://zelea.com/project/votorola/d/theory.xht#cascade-cyclic Let's say that in Figure 9 there are three candidates that are interested in getting lots of votes. They could be the very top candidate (T), the bottom left candidate (L) and the bottom right candidate (R).

Re: [Election-Methods] delegate cascade

2008-07-23 Thread Juho
On Jul 23, 2008, at 10:59 , Michael Allan wrote: (ii) Otherwise, A is a mosquito voting for an elephant! You seem to assume that there is a hierarchy of voters that is used for communication in the political process, and that this hierarchy is determined (maybe even formally) by the

Re: [Election-Methods] delegate cascade

2008-07-23 Thread Kristofer Munsterhjelm
Juho wrote: On Jul 22, 2008, at 14:26 , Michael Allan wrote: I'm grateful I was directed to this list. You're clearly experts. I wish I could reply more completely right away (I should know better than to start 2 separate threads). I'll just reply to Juho's questions today, and tomorrow

Re: [Election-Methods] delegate cascade

2008-07-21 Thread Abd ul-Rahman Lomax
At 07:36 AM 7/21/2008, Kristofer Munsterhjelm wrote: That sounds very much like Delegable Proxy, which Abd says was first thought of by Dodgson (Lewis Carroll). In DP, as far as I understand it, voters associate with proxies (delegates in your terminology) and the proxies accumulate votes

Re: [Election-Methods] delegate cascade

2008-07-21 Thread Juho
Hi, Some more comments and questions on the properties of the proposed method. 1) All voters are candidates and it is possible that all voters consider themselves to be the best candidate. Therefore the method may start from all candidates having one vote each (their own vote). Maybe

[Election-Methods] delegate cascade

2008-07-20 Thread Michael Allan
Hello to the list, I'm a software engineer, currently developing an online electoral system. I was in another discussion (link at bottom) and a subscriber recommended this list to me. I have a few questions, if anyone is able to help. A key component of the electoral system (to explain) is