Re: assoc-delete-all

2005-07-03 Thread Lennart Borgman
Juanma Barranquero wrote: ... will do what you want, but it will still share conses with the original list. Other implementations can use `copy-tree' or `copy-alist', but really, there's no one answer that is good for every situation. Kent M. Pitman did a wonderful article about this issue (he

Re: Some error info from configure.bat please

2005-07-03 Thread Lennart Borgman
Eli Zaretskii wrote: The port of sh included in MSYS is the Cygwin port. So I won't recommend its use with a non-Cygwin build of Emacs. What problems are there using MSYS from within Emacs? ___ Emacs-devel mailing list Emacs-devel@gnu.org http:/

Re: Some error info from configure.bat please

2005-07-03 Thread Lennart Borgman
Eli Zaretskii wrote: So I think the right combinations are: GnuWin32+MinGW and Cygwin. The former can be augmented by some port of a Unix shell (I use zsh, FWIW), while the latter comes with a shell. Is zsh good for unpacking distributions? I beleive that for example CEDET needs a sh to unp

Re: configure-more.zip

2005-07-03 Thread Lennart Borgman
Eli Zaretskii wrote: This won't work. "make bootstrap" must be preceeded by "configure", and if configure.bat does not have the right line ends, then that will fail. This situation worries me less: if configure.bat fails to run, the user will know something is wrong with the batch file.

fonts in carbon emacs

2005-07-03 Thread Peter Novodvorsky
Hello, I've install 22.0.50 version of Emacs (from CVS) and was pretty happy that russian works out of box there (at last!). Howerver, when I try to change the font (for eg., if I tweak the height of default apple-monaco) all russian letters turn into boxes. Even if I change the height back all r

Re: fonts in carbon emacs

2005-07-03 Thread Peter Novodvorsky
> On Sun, 03 Jul 2005 12:21:43 +0400 > "PN" == Peter Novodvorsky <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: PN> PN> Hello, PN> I've installed 22.0.50 version of Emacs (from CVS) and was pretty happy PN> that russian works out of box there (at last!). Howerver, when I try PN> to change the font (for eg.,

Re: regexp font-lock highlighting

2005-07-03 Thread martin rudalics
Eli Zaretskii wrote: This is what happens when people send incomplete diffs, and one is forced to apply them by hand. Sorry. I'll try to make this never happen again. martin ___ Emacs-devel mailing list Emacs-devel@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mai

Re: Some error info from configure.bat please

2005-07-03 Thread David Kastrup
Juanma Barranquero <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >> From the vole itself: SFU >> http://www.microsoft.com/windowsserversystem/sfu/>. > > I assume that is a derivation of the Interix stuff they bough a few > years ago? Yes. And it is, well, free as in "you don't need to pay for it, `just' register

Re: fonts in carbon emacs

2005-07-03 Thread Takashi Hiromatsu
> I've install 22.0.50 version of Emacs (from CVS) and was pretty happy > that russian works out of box there (at last!). Howerver, when I try > to change the font (for eg., if I tweak the height of default > apple-monaco) all russian letters turn into boxes. Even if I change > the height back all

Re: assoc-delete-all

2005-07-03 Thread Lute Kamstra
Lennart Borgman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > There is an assq-delete-all, but I am missing assoc-delete-all I guess nobody needed it before. Do you want to use it? Lute. ___ Emacs-devel mailing list Emacs-devel@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman

Re: assoc-delete-all

2005-07-03 Thread Lennart Borgman
Lute Kamstra wrote: Lennart Borgman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: There is an assq-delete-all, but I am missing assoc-delete-all I guess nobody needed it before. Do you want to use it? Thanks, but after reading Juanma's answer and thinking about it I realize that I do not need it

Re: fonts in carbon emacs

2005-07-03 Thread Randal L. Schwartz
> "Takashi" == Takashi Hiromatsu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >> Does anyone understand what happens? Takashi> Please set fontset like as below. That doesn't explain it. How does that fix it? What if I don't want that exact fontset? -- Randal L. Schwartz - Stonehenge Consulting Services,

Re: configure-more.zip

2005-07-03 Thread Glenn Morris
"Kevin Gallagher" wrote: > company assigned personal key assigned to each employee, etc. For > example, when a meeting invititation arrives in the inbox, an entry is > placed into the user's calendar with markings to indicate an > invitation has been issued but no response has been given. When I

Re: Some error info from configure.bat please

2005-07-03 Thread Juanma Barranquero
On 7/3/05, David Kastrup <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Juanma Barranquero <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Yes. And it is, well, free as in "you don't need to pay for it, > `just' register with us". It actually is supposed to contain gcc, > g++, gdb and some other GPLed software. Well, I'd like to

Re: configure-more.zip

2005-07-03 Thread Juanma Barranquero
On 7/3/05, Eli Zaretskii <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > (Btw, my testing indicates that cmd.exe from Windows 2K and XP > succeeds running a batch file even if its lines end in the Unix-style > single LF, and also if there's more than one CR character before the > newline.) Yes! That's why I didn't

Re: assoc-delete-all

2005-07-03 Thread Lennart Borgman
Lute Kamstra wrote: Lennart Borgman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: There is an assq-delete-all, but I am missing assoc-delete-all I guess nobody needed it before. Do you want to use it? Thanks, but after reading Juanma's answer and thinking about it I realize that I do not need it

Re: fonts in carbon emacs

2005-07-03 Thread Peter Novodvorsky
> On Sun, 03 Jul 2005 18:56:43 +0900 > "TH" == Takashi Hiromatsu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: TH> TH> TH> Please set fontset like as below. TH> TH> (create-fontset-from-fontset-spec TH> (concat TH> TH> ) It works great when I'm switching with leim C-\, however when I try to

widget-inactive face unusable

2005-07-03 Thread Lennart Borgman
I found the face widget-inactive unusable, at least on w32. Can anyone see the difference between active and inactive buttons in Custom? It is currently defined as (defface widget-inactive 'class grayscale color) (background dark)) (:foreground "light gray"))

Re: fonts in carbon emacs

2005-07-03 Thread Peter Novodvorsky
> On Sun, 03 Jul 2005 18:56:43 +0900 > "TH" == Takashi Hiromatsu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: TH> Please set fontset like as below. And utf-8 letters are not readable in gnus after this fonset is set as default. ___ Emacs-devel mailing list E

with-timeout, docstring does not explain LIST arg

2005-07-03 Thread Lennart Borgman
The docstring does not explicitly explain the LIST argument. ___ Emacs-devel mailing list Emacs-devel@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-devel

Re: fonts in carbon emacs

2005-07-03 Thread YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu
> On Sun, 03 Jul 2005 15:11:25 +0400, Peter Novodvorsky <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > said: > It works great when I'm switching with leim C-\, however when I try > to switch group with Mac OS's native switch it draws some strange > symbols. Is it possible to make emacs look at global group and >

Infinite loop in whitespace-buffer-trailing-cleanup

2005-07-03 Thread Romain Francoise
There is a bug in `whitespace-buffer-trailing-cleanup' when trying to remove trailing whitespace in a non-writable file with `kill-read-only-ok' set to t. Steps to reproduce this bug: 1. Create a file with only whitespace, e.g. echo -e "\n\n\n\n" >/tmp/foo 2. Make it non-writable: chmod a-w /tmp/f

Re: Infinite loop in whitespace-buffer-trailing-cleanup

2005-07-03 Thread Romain Francoise
Whoops, sorry, control characters in my previous message truncated the backtrace. Here's the full version: Debugger entered--Lisp error: (error "Lisp nesting exceeds `max-lisp-eval-depth'") x-set-cut-buffer("\n" t) x-select-text("\n" t) kill-new("\n") copy-region-as-kill(3 4) byte-code

Emacs load-path and Mac OS X

2005-07-03 Thread Peter Dyballa
Hello! Probably in winter (as usual one season after the planned autumn date) a new TeXLive DVD will come. In the Mac OS X department it might well have a Carbon or more aquaish GNU Emacs version (and an XEmacs too?) as text editor (with AUCTeX and preview-latex). Recently the application sup

Re: fonts in carbon emacs

2005-07-03 Thread Peter Novodvorsky
> On Sun, 03 Jul 2005 21:15:42 +0900 > "YM" == YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: YM> > On Sun, 03 Jul 2005 15:11:25 +0400, Peter Novodvorsky <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > said: YM> YM> That's what I mentioned "tons of wrong glyphs" in YM> http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/e

Re: fonts in carbon emacs

2005-07-03 Thread Peter Novodvorsky
> On Sun, 03 Jul 2005 21:15:42 +0900 > "YM" == YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: YM> YM> http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/emacs-pretest-bug/2005-06/msg00547.html. YM> As for the "tons of wrong glyphs" problem, I think that's due to a YM> misuse of the function, rather than

Re: Emacs load-path and Mac OS X

2005-07-03 Thread David Reitter
On 3 Jul 2005, at 14:35, Peter Dyballa wrote: Probably in winter (as usual one season after the planned autumn date) a new TeXLive DVD will come. In the Mac OS X department it might well have a Carbon or more aquaish GNU Emacs version (and an XEmacs too?) as text editor (with AUCTeX and pr

Re: Some error info from configure.bat please

2005-07-03 Thread Eli Zaretskii
> Date: Sun, 03 Jul 2005 09:29:18 +0200 > From: Lennart Borgman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > CC: [EMAIL PROTECTED], emacs-devel@gnu.org > > Eli Zaretskii wrote: > > >The port of sh included in MSYS is the Cygwin port. So I won't > >recommend its use with a non-Cygwin build of Emacs. > > > What probl

Re: configure-more.zip

2005-07-03 Thread Eli Zaretskii
> Date: Sun, 03 Jul 2005 01:24:19 -0500 > From: "Kevin Gallagher" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Cc: > > A very large number of companies, today, have tied themselves into using > Microsoft Outlook coupled with a Microsoft Exchange Server. I know about Outlook and Exchange. If I saw in OP's headers tha

Re: configure-more.zip

2005-07-03 Thread Eli Zaretskii
> Date: Sun, 3 Jul 2005 12:31:42 +0200 > From: Juanma Barranquero <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org > > I'm still not sure whether cmd.exe grokking weird line endings is a > feature or a bug It's almost certainly a feature. ___ Emacs-devel

Re: configure-more.zip

2005-07-03 Thread Eli Zaretskii
> Date: Sun, 03 Jul 2005 09:38:11 +0200 > From: Lennart Borgman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > CC: Jason Rumney <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, emacs-devel@gnu.org > > Running a bat file with unix style line ends: > > - cmd.exe: Windows 2k: ok, XP: ok, NT: ok > - command.com: Window 2k: ok, others: ?? The only she

Re: Some error info from configure.bat please

2005-07-03 Thread Eli Zaretskii
> Date: Sun, 03 Jul 2005 09:50:55 +0200 > From: Lennart Borgman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > CC: [EMAIL PROTECTED], emacs-devel@gnu.org > > Is zsh good for unpacking distributions? zsh is a very good shell (the "**" feature alone is something to kill for), and it has a sh compatibility mode, so is suit

Incorrect indentation after :name

2005-07-03 Thread Lennart Borgman
This gets incorrectly indented after :background. (put-text-property 0 (length s) 'face '(:background "red" :foreground "black" :height 1.5) s) _

Re: C-mouse-2 elsewhere than in a buffer

2005-07-03 Thread Richard M. Stallman
How about letting C-mouse-2 always bring up the Text Properties menu? The mode-line, header-line, and fringe are now places that have a foreground and background property, IIUC. Why not let users use the Text Properties menu to interrogate and change those properties? It is not ve

Re: Race-condition ?

2005-07-03 Thread Richard M. Stallman
Some (including GNU mv and GNU cp) do even use chown and chmod in the same unsafe way that we did previously, so I will report that to them. Thank you. Now, as for as I can tell, there is no way to move a file asking the user what to do if needed and avoid every race-condition

Re: CPerl-mode bug [Re: Relation with package authors (CPerl-mode follow-ups)]

2005-07-03 Thread Richard M. Stallman
My point is that most edits must be removed, since they introduce much more problems than they fix. Removing them is fine, as long as the important problems we fixed get fixed some other way. ___ Emacs-devel mailing list Emacs-devel@gnu.org htt

Re: Finding faces to customize

2005-07-03 Thread Richard M. Stallman
Please do it. ___ Emacs-devel mailing list Emacs-devel@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-devel

Re: New dumping problem...

2005-07-03 Thread Richard M. Stallman
The flag affects a kernel shipped with FC4. As the result it is not so meaningful to test whether the flag is effective or not with autoconf; the test will never be failed on any environment where the personality system call is available. So it sounds like the current code actual

Re: with-timeout, docstring does not explain LIST arg

2005-07-03 Thread Juanma Barranquero
On 7/3/05, Lennart Borgman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > The docstring does not explicitly explain the LIST argument. The docstring should look like this. -- /L/e/k/t/u Index: lisp/emacs-lisp/timer.el === RCS f

[EMAIL PROTECTED]: Re: Can't costomize font for the `menu' face]

2005-07-03 Thread Richard M. Stallman
Can someone please investigate this, and ack to me? --- Start of forwarded message --- Date: Fri, 24 Jun 2005 15:15:52 +0900 From: Katsumi Yamaoka <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: emacs-pretest-bug@gnu.org Subject: Re: Can't costomize font for the `menu' face Organization: Ema

Re: New dumping problem...

2005-07-03 Thread Richard M. Stallman
So I'd propose we keep it in PROBLEMS, but we could add that Emacs tries to handle exec-shield itself. A note on how to disable the randomization should be added to PROBLEMS also. Could you please do that? ___ Emacs-devel mailing list

Re: configure-more.zip

2005-07-03 Thread Lennart Borgman
Eli Zaretskii wrote: As I previously have said I suggested testing at the end of configure.bat should be a good solution. All that is needed is a small C program. Maybe this testing also should be repeated in the Makefile though to take care of redownloads. I still don't understand what

Re: A change in configure is not in NEWS

2005-07-03 Thread Richard M. Stallman
* configure.in: Add --enable-locallisppath. * configure: Regenerate. Is it worth mentioning? I am not sure. ___ Emacs-devel mailing list Emacs-devel@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-devel

Re: scroll-down behave strangely with header line

2005-07-03 Thread Richard M. Stallman
Anyway I reverted the last change made to: - dispextern.h 1.206 -> 1.205 - xdisp.c 1.1028 -> 1.1027 - xfnc.c 1.640 -> 1.639 That change fixed another bug, and mostly works correctly, so removing it is not correct. However, I found a bug there and another bug in windo

Re: "Update info.texi"

2005-07-03 Thread Richard M. Stallman
Two new Info features are marked in etc/NEWS file with ---. Those are new user options `Info-fontify-visited-nodes' and `Info-isearch-search'. But there is a suitable node in the Info manual for them: (info "(info)Emacs Info Variables") I think they should be documented at

Re: Finding faces to customize

2005-07-03 Thread Richard M. Stallman
> I fixed these bugs in crm.el. Thanks. There are still three more bugs. Thanks. Please install your fixes. ___ Emacs-devel mailing list Emacs-devel@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-devel

Re: Some error info from configure.bat please

2005-07-03 Thread Juanma Barranquero
On 7/3/05, Eli Zaretskii <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > (the "**" feature alone is something to kill for) Could you please describe it briefly? -- /L/e/k/t/u ___ Emacs-devel mailing list Emacs-devel@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/ma

Re: scroll-down behave strangely with header line

2005-07-03 Thread David Ponce
Richard M. Stallman wrote: Anyway I reverted the last change made to: - dispextern.h 1.206 -> 1.205 - xdisp.c 1.1028 -> 1.1027 - xfnc.c 1.640 -> 1.639 That change fixed another bug, and mostly works correctly, so removing it is not correct. However, I found a bug t

Re: Incorrect indentation after :name

2005-07-03 Thread Lennart Borgman
Juanma Barranquero wrote: On 7/3/05, Lennart Borgman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: This gets incorrectly indented after :background. (put-text-property 0 (length s) 'face '(:background "red" :foreground "blac

Re: configure-more.zip

2005-07-03 Thread Juanma Barranquero
> It's almost certainly a feature. Did I forget to put the smiley? Sorry :-) -- /L/e/k/t/u ___ Emacs-devel mailing list Emacs-devel@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-devel

Re: Incorrect indentation after :name

2005-07-03 Thread Juanma Barranquero
On 7/3/05, Lennart Borgman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > This gets incorrectly indented after :background. > > (put-text-property 0 (length s) > 'face '(:background "red" > :foreground "black" >

Re: Incorrect indentation after :name

2005-07-03 Thread Luc Teirlinck
I see the same thing Lennart sees, in `emacs -q -nbc', both with C-M-q and line by line, using TAB (in the *scratch* buffer). Sincerely, Luc. ___ Emacs-devel mailing list Emacs-devel@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-devel

Re: Incorrect indentation after :name

2005-07-03 Thread Juanma Barranquero
On 7/3/05, Lennart Borgman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > It would be ok with me, but that is not what I see ;-) > > :foreground is right under "red". Tested with emacs -Q. Sorry, you're right. I forgot that I have this on my .emacs. The `lisp-indent-function' bit is the one that "fixes" the probl

Re: scroll-down behave strangely with header line

2005-07-03 Thread David Ponce
Richard M. Stallman wrote: Anyway I reverted the last change made to: - dispextern.h 1.206 -> 1.205 - xdisp.c 1.1028 -> 1.1027 - xfnc.c 1.640 -> 1.639 That change fixed another bug, and mostly works correctly, so removing it is not correct. However, I found a bug t

Re: Some error info from configure.bat please

2005-07-03 Thread Eli Zaretskii
> Date: Sun, 3 Jul 2005 18:27:05 +0200 > From: Juanma Barranquero <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org > > On 7/3/05, Eli Zaretskii <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > (the "**" feature alone is something to kill for) > > Could you please describe it briefly? "fgrep STRING /foo/bar/**/*.

Re: configure-more.zip

2005-07-03 Thread Eli Zaretskii
> Date: Sun, 03 Jul 2005 17:28:20 +0200 > From: Lennart Borgman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > CC: [EMAIL PROTECTED], emacs-devel@gnu.org > > I might be misunderstanding this but is there not a problem starting > make since Makefile might have this trouble? Perhaps so, but unless we understand the gory

Re: configure-more.zip

2005-07-03 Thread Lennart Borgman
Eli Zaretskii wrote: I might be misunderstanding this but is there not a problem starting make since Makefile might have this trouble? Perhaps so, but unless we understand the gory details of that failure, we cannot reason about it. If you can describe and explain what exactly goes wrong

Re: Some error info from configure.bat please

2005-07-03 Thread Juanma Barranquero
On 7/3/05, Eli Zaretskii <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Convinced? It sounds useful, yeah. OTOH, the shell I use for Windows (4NT) would do that with -R (/S, in fact) in most internal commands, and you can always do "GLOBAL yourcommand yourarguments" to run an external programs in every subdirecto

xterm colors (was: Diff mode faces)

2005-07-03 Thread Gaëtan LEURENT
Juri Linkov wrote on 02 Jul 2005 01:59:19 +0200: > It is 8-color xterm, and according to color mapping `xterm-standard-colors' > in term/xterm.el `yellow' has color values of `yellow3' (52685 52685 0), > `cyan' - values of `cyan3' (0 52685 52685), and so on. Many colors on > xterm have values da

Re: configure-more.zip

2005-07-03 Thread Jason Rumney
Lennart Borgman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > File `all' does not exist. >File `which-sh' does not exist. > ' does not exist. > '. Must remake target ` > ', needed by `which-sh'. Stop.t ` It looks like make is treating the extra ^M as a dependancy. ___

Re: Fixing report-emacs-bug

2005-07-03 Thread David Reitter
On 1 Jul 2005, at 23:45, Richard M. Stallman wrote: I thought about this, but the thing is: the external bug reporting facility will run the mail client and cause it to start a new message editor. If we changed sendmail.el, we would present users with the internal editor first

Re: Fixing report-emacs-bug

2005-07-03 Thread David Reitter
On 30 Jun 2005, at 20:37, Stefan Monnier wrote: As described a while ago, report-emacs-bug doesn't work on Mac OS X (unless the user chooses to activate postfix). It swallows bug reports without indicating an error. Have you reported it as a bug to Apple? No I haven't. I'm not sure wha

Completion with M-Tab for custom type 'directory

2005-07-03 Thread Lennart Borgman
In Info `directory' The value must be a directory name, and you can do completion with `M-'. Does this work? On w32 I can of course not do M-Tab, but I have another meta-key to, but that does not seem to work. Could it be bound to something useful instead? M-k for example? ___

Re: Editing exportet registry files

2005-07-03 Thread Gaëtan LEURENT
Jason Rumney wrote on 02 Jul 2005 00:12:53 +0200: > Nonsense. It is very unlikely that UTF-16-LE-WITH-SIGNATURE, > UTF-16-BE-WITH-SIGNATURE, or even UTF-8 will falsely match any Latin > (or cyrillic or probably Asian) encoding. They should be at the front > of the list. For UTF-16 with signature

Re: Completion with M-Tab for custom type 'directory

2005-07-03 Thread Henrik Enberg
Lennart Borgman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Does this work? On w32 I can of course not do M-Tab, but I have another > meta-key to, but that does not seem to work. Doesn't ESC-Tab work on windows? ___ Emacs-devel mailing list Emacs-devel@gnu.org http

Re: fonts in carbon emacs

2005-07-03 Thread Takashi Hiromatsu
> Again, is advice written here > > http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/emacs-devel/2005-07/msg00197.html > > is "officialy wrong"? Maybe yes after these changes. 2004-11-30 YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu * term/mac-win.

Coding system priority (was: Editing exportet registry files)

2005-07-03 Thread Gaëtan LEURENT
David Kastrup wrote on 01 Jul 2005 19:45:32 +0200: > Shouldn't the utf-x files with signature be quite in front of the list > of detected coding systems? I mean, that's what the signature is good > for in the first place, right? By the way, what is the correct method for a user to put utf-16-le

Re: fonts in carbon emacs

2005-07-03 Thread Takashi Hiromatsu
- emacs-pretest-bug > Please don't just guess. Fontsets defined with > create-fontset-from-ascii-font can also display non-ascii fonts (if > corresponding fonts are installed). Unspecified parts are > complemented using the data in "fontset-default" and others. > > I've been using fontsets defin

Re: Completion with M-Tab for custom type 'directory

2005-07-03 Thread Lennart Borgman
Henrik Enberg wrote: Lennart Borgman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Does this work? On w32 I can of course not do M-Tab, but I have another meta-key to, but that does not seem to work. Doesn't ESC-Tab work on windows? Yes, but I saw some strange things. First I got into that "show in

Re: CPerl-mode bug [Re: Relation with package authors (CPerl-mode follow-ups)]

2005-07-03 Thread Ilya Zakharevich
On Sat, Jul 02, 2005 at 10:08:20AM +0900, Miles Bader wrote: > > My point is that most edits must be removed, since they introduce much > > more problems than they fix. > Maybe you are right, but this must be determined individually for each > change, using real information. Well, you know my op

Re: assoc-delete-all

2005-07-03 Thread Richard M. Stallman
There is an assq-delete-all, but I am missing assoc-delete-all ... or, We don't want to add assoc-delete-all merely for symmetry. It would have to be needed in practice. ___ Emacs-devel mailing list Emacs-devel@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman

Re: Completion with M-Tab for custom type 'directory

2005-07-03 Thread Lennart Borgman
Lennart Borgman wrote: Yes, but I saw some strange things. First I got into that "show initial lisp value" state. Then I did not do that any more, but I really do not understand why. I start with (customiz-option 'my-opt). The problem with the state was because I set the default value to nil

Re: Fixing report-emacs-bug

2005-07-03 Thread Lennart Borgman
David Reitter wrote: What about using the APIs provided by the various systems to send e- mail? On Windows, it's MAPI - on Unix it's generally sendmail, and I don't know if there is a special one on the Mac. I suspect making it easier for various users to submit bug reports would make th

Re: base64 behavior is not MIME compliant

2005-07-03 Thread Richard M. Stallman
RFC 3548 has this to say about characters not part of the encoding alphabet: Implementations MUST reject the encoding if it contains characters outside the base alphabet when interpreting base encoded data, unless the specification referring to this document explici

Re: doctor.el

2005-07-03 Thread Richard M. Stallman
There are a number a variables that are made buffer local, that are unique to doctor.el should those be prefixed as well? On general principles it would be cleaner to do so. Another alternative is to defvar them without initial value, since that doesn't affect other files. On general pri

Re: Changing occur-hook to occur-functions

2005-07-03 Thread Richard M. Stallman
Please use diff -c to send patches. "Ordinary" diff lacks context and is therefore harder to understand. ___ Emacs-devel mailing list Emacs-devel@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-devel

Re: dolist?

2005-07-03 Thread Richard M. Stallman
(mapc #'(lambda (x) (message "...%s" x)) '(1 2 3 4)) In *Messages* => ...4 Seems like a "feature" of the messages, when using "...". This feature is very useful--it prevents a series of progress messages from cluttering up *Messages*. It ought to be better documented, though. I

Re: COPYING files have old address for FSF

2005-07-03 Thread Richard M. Stallman
Ok, I'll just start the job. I'll document what I've done so that someone can take over if/when I get tired. Thank you. ___ Emacs-devel mailing list Emacs-devel@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-devel

Re: Darwin support for lisp/battery.el.

2005-07-03 Thread Richard M. Stallman
The changes are ok (presuming they work), but there is a problem in the comments: ! ;; There is at present support for Linux and Darwin. Darwin is a complete operating system. To include "Linux" in that list implies that it too is a complete operating system. That's unfair to the GNU Projec

Re: Completion with M-Tab for custom type 'directory

2005-07-03 Thread Henrik Enberg
Lennart Borgman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Henrik Enberg wrote: > >>Lennart Borgman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >> >> >> >>>Does this work? On w32 I can of course not do M-Tab, but I have another >>>meta-key to, but that does not seem to work. >>> >>> >> >>Doesn't ESC-Tab work on windows?

Re: Completion with M-Tab for custom type 'directory

2005-07-03 Thread Lennart Borgman
Henrik Enberg wrote: Then, in the correct state, I put the point to the beginning of the field. If I then type Esc Tab I get an "Wrong type argument: stringp, nil". Hmm, I get a huge list of symbols to complete against. Even at the beginning of the field without deleting the initial "nil

Re: base64 behavior is not MIME compliant

2005-07-03 Thread Nic Ferrier
"Richard M. Stallman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > RFC 3548 has this to say about characters not part of the encoding > alphabet: > > Implementations MUST reject the encoding if it contains characters > outside the base alphabet when interpreting base encoded data, unless >

Re: Editing exportet registry files

2005-07-03 Thread Jason Rumney
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Gaëtan LEURENT) writes: > For UTF-16 with signature, I agree, but UTF-8 could sometimes match a > Latin-1 file. For instance, "4×½=2" encoded in Latin-1 is valid as a > UTF-8 string. A friend of mine suggested "Try our new exclusive WAZA® > for just $0.02!" which is even meanin

Re: Changing occur-hook to occur-functions

2005-07-03 Thread Juanma Barranquero
On 7/3/05, Richard M. Stallman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Please use diff -c to send patches. My mistake. I was trying not to create "unified" patches and didn't realize these were "ordinary" instead of "context". -- /L/e/k/t/u ___

Re: Darwin support for lisp/battery.el.

2005-07-03 Thread David Kastrup
"Richard M. Stallman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > The changes are ok (presuming they work), but there is a problem in > the comments: > > ! ;; There is at present support for Linux and Darwin. > > Darwin is a complete operating system. Since when? AFAIK, the complete system is called MacOS

weird bug with `Russian-computer'?

2005-07-03 Thread Paul Pogonyshev
With the `Russian-computer' input method, S-/ combination produces a comma (instead of a question mark with standard English.) That is OK and the way it should be. However, when I start incremental search, the key works as in English, while the rest of the keyboard keeps producing Russian letters

Re: Editing exportet registry files

2005-07-03 Thread David Kastrup
Jason Rumney <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Gaëtan LEURENT) writes: > >> For UTF-16 with signature, I agree, but UTF-8 could sometimes match >> a Latin-1 file. For instance, "4×½=2" encoded in Latin-1 is valid >> as a UTF-8 string. A friend of mine suggested "Try our new >> exclu

Re: Completion with M-Tab for custom type 'directory

2005-07-03 Thread Henrik Enberg
Lennart Borgman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Henrik Enberg wrote: > >>>Then, in the correct state, I put the point to the beginning of the >>>field. If I then type Esc Tab I get an "Wrong type argument: stringp, >>>nil". >>> >>> >> >>Hmm, I get a huge list of symbols to complete against. Eve

Re: New dumping problem...

2005-07-03 Thread Jan D.
So I'd propose we keep it in PROBLEMS, but we could add that Emacs tries to handle exec-shield itself. A note on how to disable the randomization should be added to PROBLEMS also. Could you please do that? I reinstated the text you added about Fedora Core 4, and added that Ema

Re: Completion with M-Tab for custom type 'directory

2005-07-03 Thread Luc Teirlinck
Lennart Borgman wrote: 3) Alt-Tab is useless as a default since it is not available in window type environments. Did you really mean "in window type environments" (when using a window system) or did you mean "in an MS Windows type environment". (I am not trying to nitpick on terminology,

Re: Completion with M-Tab for custom type 'directory

2005-07-03 Thread Jason Rumney
Lennart Borgman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > 3) Alt-Tab is useless as a default since it is not available in window >type environments. Esc-Tab is in this case available, but is not >always the case. (This message has been repeated many times now and >I really long for a resulotion of

Re: Completion with M-Tab for custom type 'directory

2005-07-03 Thread Lennart Borgman
Luc Teirlinck wrote: Lennart Borgman wrote: 3) Alt-Tab is useless as a default since it is not available in window type environments. Did you really mean "in window type environments" (when using a window system) or did you mean "in an MS Windows type environment". (I am not trying to n

Re: Completion with M-Tab for custom type 'directory

2005-07-03 Thread Lennart Borgman
Jason Rumney wrote: Lennart Borgman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: 3) Alt-Tab is useless as a default since it is not available in window type environments. Esc-Tab is in this case available, but is not always the case. (This message has been repeated many times now and I really long for

Re: Darwin support for lisp/battery.el.

2005-07-03 Thread Lute Kamstra
David Kastrup <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > "Richard M. Stallman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > >> The changes are ok (presuming they work), but there is a problem in >> the comments: >> >> ! ;; There is at present support for Linux and Darwin. >> >> Darwin is a complete operating system. > >

RE: Incorrect indentation after :name

2005-07-03 Thread Drew Adams
(add-hook 'emacs-lisp-mode-hook #'(lambda () (turn-on-eldoc-mode) (unless (assoc-string "cl-indent" load-history) (load "cl-indent" nil t)) (set (make-local-variable 'lisp-indent-function) 'common-lisp-indent-function)

Re: Darwin support for lisp/battery.el.

2005-07-03 Thread Lute Kamstra
"Richard M. Stallman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > The changes are ok (presuming they work), but there is a problem in > the comments: > > ! ;; There is at present support for Linux and Darwin. > > Darwin is a complete operating system. To include "Linux" in that > list implies that it too i

Re: Darwin support for lisp/battery.el.

2005-07-03 Thread David Kastrup
Lute Kamstra <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > David Kastrup <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > >> The kernel of MacOS is Darwin. The kernel of GNU/Linux is Linux. >> >>> The current comment says "Linux" because it refers specifically to >>> the kernel and its version numbers. (There are no generally >>>

Re: Completion with M-Tab for custom type 'directory

2005-07-03 Thread David Kastrup
Lennart Borgman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Jason Rumney wrote: > >>Lennart Borgman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >> >> >> >>>3) Alt-Tab is useless as a default since it is not available in window >>> type environments. Esc-Tab is in this case available, but is not >>> always the case. (This

Re: Incorrect indentation after :name

2005-07-03 Thread Juanma Barranquero
On 7/4/05, Drew Adams <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Do most people prefer the first of these? Second is much better IMO. -- /L/e/k/t/u ___ Emacs-devel mailing list Emacs-devel@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-de

Re: Completion with M-Tab for custom type 'directory

2005-07-03 Thread Lennart Borgman
David Kastrup wrote: 3) Alt-Tab is useless as a default since it is not available in window type environments. Esc-Tab is in this case available, but is not always the case. (This message has been repeated many times now and I really long for a resulotion of this.) In what circu

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