Re: From macros to elisp programming?

2021-12-06 Thread Tim Cross
Ypo writes: > Hi > > I am able to make macros, but I think I am far away from Lisp programming. > > Is there a path to go from macros to elisp programming? For example, the last > macro I've made is for transforming the name of some > headlines, adding in front of them a part from the

Re: Concrete suggestions to improve Org mode third-party integration :: an afterthought following Karl Voit's Orgdown proposal

2021-12-05 Thread Tim Cross
Ihor Radchenko writes: > Tim Cross writes: > >> I think your working off a false premise. Your view is that org mode >> should be available in other editors/software so that others can realise >> the power and benefits it provides. I can understand that position.

Re: Concrete suggestions to improve Org mode third-party integration :: an afterthought following Karl Voit's Orgdown proposal

2021-12-05 Thread Tim Cross
"Bruce D'Arcus" writes: > On Sun, Dec 5, 2021 at 8:42 AM Tim Cross wrote: > >> I think your working off a false premise. Your view is that org mode >> should be available in other editors/software so that others can realise >> the power and benefits it provid

Re: Concrete suggestions to improve Org mode third-party integration :: an afterthought following Karl Voit's Orgdown proposal

2021-12-05 Thread Tim Cross
Ihor Radchenko writes: > Juan Manuel Macías writes: > >> Yes, sorry for not explaining myself well: I was also referring to >> search results, not the title in the web site... >> >> But the question is: what need is there to remove the reference to Emacs >> in the search result? I think the

Re: Concrete suggestions to improve Org mode third-party integration :: an afterthought following Karl Voit's Orgdown proposal

2021-12-05 Thread Tim Cross
Juan Manuel Macías writes: > Ihor Radchenko writes: > >> The website title is "Org mode for Emacs", repelling users who _do >>not want_ to use Org inside Emacs. Maybe we can do better? Something >>with less accent on Emacs like "Org mode: your life in plain text" > > I am not at all in

Re: [PATCH] Fix org-comment-line-break-function

2021-12-04 Thread Tim Cross
Given that Nicholas cannot remember the reason for the original function and suspects it was meant to be an internal only function, I think this patch is probably the best way forward and should be applied. Kaushal Modi writes: > On Tue, Nov 30, 2021 at 6:29 PM Tim Cross wrote: > >

Re: [PATCH] org-src.el: add option `org-src-native-defun-movements'

2021-12-04 Thread Tim Cross
Sébastien Miquel writes: > Hi, > > Thank you for having a look. > > Tim Cross writes: >> This also seems like an edge case and I'm not convinced yet another >> option is justified. Why have eilisp in org blocks rather than an >> emacs-lisp block? > > By o

Re: quotation marks in table cell vs. org-babel-ref-resolve

2021-12-04 Thread Tim Cross
Greg Minshall writes: > hi, Tim, > >> The key question is what is the use case for having this 'mixed' content >> in a table cell? > > in my case, i am putting RFC822('ish) e-mail addresses in a column of an > org-mode table. and, i want to extract them. > > | oxymo...@example.com

Re: On zero width spaces and Org syntax

2021-12-04 Thread Tim Cross
Max Nikulin writes: > On 04/12/2021 04:48, Tim Cross wrote: >> My vote is to simply maintain the status quo. Don't modify the syntax, >> don't make the zero space character somewhat special or processed in any >> special way during export. In short, accept that inner wo

Re: Org-syntax: Intra-word markup

2021-12-03 Thread Tim Cross
Tom Gillespie writes: > I don't mean to be a wet blanket, but the edge cases for > the current markup syntax are already hard enough to > implement correctly, to the point where different parts of > Org mode are inconsistent. Intra-word markup isn't viable > because there simply isn't any sane

Re: quotation marks in table cell vs. org-babel-ref-resolve

2021-12-03 Thread Tim Cross
Greg Minshall writes: > fwiw, tracing, the problem appears to be this line > > ((eq (string-to-char cell) ?\") (read cell)) > > in =org-babel-read=. > > presumably there are many cases where this is the right thing to do. > > but, maybe look for a simple =^"[^"]*"$= (i.e., a

Re: [PATCH] org-src.el: add option `org-src-native-defun-movements'

2021-12-03 Thread Tim Cross
Sébastien Miquel writes: > Hi, > > The attached patch adds a new option ~org-src-native-defun-movements~ > that makes ~beginning-of-defun~, ~end-of-defun~ and ~eval-defun~ work > natively when called from inside an org src block : those functions > are called from an org src edit buffer, in

Re: On zero width spaces and Org syntax

2021-12-03 Thread Tim Cross
Juan Manuel Macías writes: > Hi all, > > It is usually recommended, as you know, to insert a zero width space > character (Unicode U+200B) as a sort of delimiter mark to solve the > scenarios of emphasis within a word (for example, =/meta/literature=) > and others contexts where emphasis marks

Re: Orgdown: negative feedback & attempt of a root-cause analysis

2021-12-01 Thread Tim Cross
Karl Voit writes: > Hi, > > I've summarized my current state of mind about the whole Orgdown > fiasco into a blog article: > https://karl-voit.at/2021/12/02/Orgdown-feedback/ > > Don't worry, I tried to analyze my own faults as well so that others > might be able to learn from this unfortunate

Re: frustrations

2021-12-01 Thread Tim Cross
Jan Ulrich Hasecke writes: > Hi all, > > after happily using straight for quite a while I am currently frustrated by a > couple of problems. > > In a different thread I asked about exporting citations, which does not > work for me at all. > > Today I discovered that pamparam does not work

Re: [PATCH] Fix org-comment-line-break-function

2021-11-30 Thread Tim Cross
Kaushal Modi writes: > On Tue, Nov 30, 2021 at 6:29 PM Tim Cross wrote: > > It would be good to get Nicholas' input here as I think he wrote the > original function back in 2012. > > Just to see what happens, I tried this: > > M-: (setq-local comment-line-break-f

Re: Orgdown: negative feedback & attempt of a root-cause analysis (was: "Orgdown", the new name for the syntax of Org-mode)

2021-11-30 Thread Tim Cross
Tom Gillespie writes: > Karl, >The exact naming of a thing is nearly always the most contentious > step in trying to promulgate it. In my own field we can easily get all > parties to agree on a definition, but they refuse to budge on a name. > As others have said, I wouldn't worry about

Re: [PATCH] Fix org-comment-line-break-function

2021-11-30 Thread Tim Cross
Kaushal Modi writes: > On Tue, Nov 30, 2021 at 3:20 PM Marco Wahl wrote: > > diff --git a/lisp/org.el b/lisp/org.el > index 1a1375461..fdeec0d67 100644 > --- a/lisp/org.el > +++ b/lisp/org.el > @@ -19695,7 +19695,8 @@ non-nil." > (save-excursion (forward-char

Re: [PATCH] Fix org-comment-line-break-function

2021-11-30 Thread Tim Cross
Marco Wahl writes: > Hi Richard and all, > > [...] > >> Just to be extra, super sure, I built Emacs this afternoon from a >> checkout of the repo, and the error is *still* there, with the same >> cause. In that build, with emacs -Q, I have: >> >> (org-version) >> "9.5" >> >> (emacs-version)

Re: Is M-j broken for you in Org on Emacs 27 and 28?

2021-11-29 Thread Tim Cross
Richard Lawrence writes: > Tim Cross writes: > >> I'm running Emacs 28 and cannot reproduce the issue you observe. > > Hmm, the plot thickens! > >> Running emacs -Q I find M-j is bound to >> >> M-j runs the command default-indent-new-line (found in

Re: Is M-j broken for you in Org on Emacs 27 and 28?

2021-11-29 Thread Tim Cross
Richard Lawrence writes: > Tim Cross writes: > >> I'm running Emacs 28 and cannot reproduce the issue you observe. > > Hmm, the plot thickens! > >> Running emacs -Q I find M-j is bound to >> >> M-j runs the command default-indent-new-line (found in

Re: Is M-j broken for you in Org on Emacs 27 and 28?

2021-11-28 Thread Tim Cross
Richard Lawrence writes: > Colin Baxter  writes: > >> I confirm that it also appears broken to me in emacs-27.2, with the same >> error as you found. I have never noticed it before, possibly because I >> use C-j rather than M-j. > > Thanks for confirming. Do you know what the difference

Re: [patch] fix ox-latex async export bug

2021-11-28 Thread Tim Cross
Nicolas Goaziou writes: > Hello, > > Rasmus writes: > >> When I try to export documents asynchronously with ox-latex, I always get >> a bug in the “org-export-processFOO” files. The last sexp is always >> something like this: >> >> (funcall '# >> "test.tex") >> >> where the “#” and “’”

Re: "Orgdown", the new name for the syntax of Org-mode

2021-11-28 Thread Tim Cross
Karl Voit writes: > Hi Org-mode community, > > At this year's EmascsConf, I had a 12 minute video where I explain why > we do need a different name for the syntax of Org-mode in contrast to > the Elisp implementation of GNU/Emacs Org-mode. > > I would like you to read my rationale and motivate

Re: Re-installing org-mode packages due to annoying message

2021-11-28 Thread Tim Cross
"Alan E. Davis" writes: > I have just spent an hour trying to figure out what's going on with ELPA, GNU > ELPA, NONGNU ELPA packages. I am lost. > > A plethora of methods exist for installing org-mode and other packages; it is > unnecessary to list them, even if I could. > > I've been using

Re: CDATA auto aggregation

2021-11-26 Thread Tim Cross
Diego Rodriguez writes: > Hello, > > I am customizing my org-mode installation but there is something that I don't > understand. > > When I execute the following statement: > > ``` > (setq org-html-mathjax-template > > " > > MathJax.Hub.Config({ > displayAlign: \"%ALIGN\", >

Re: Why is an image width restricted to being between 0 and 200% of the text area

2021-11-23 Thread Tim Cross
Matt Huszagh writes: > I agree that requesting an image to be >2x the buffer text width is a > strange request, and it's not one I've ever tried to give. But, I think > the salient point is that it's a very clear request, and I think org > should carry it out. I'm all in favor of org helping

Re: [PATCH] Fix window width when line numbers present

2021-11-22 Thread Tim Cross
Bastien writes: > Hi Ihor, > > Ihor Radchenko writes: > >> The text is mostly clear. However, there is a slight confusion about >> actual current Emacs version vs. planned Emacs version. > > I've rephrased it a bit to focus on "releases", not "versions": > > We aim at keeping the latest

Re: [PATCH] Fix window width when line numbers present

2021-11-22 Thread Tim Cross
Ihor Radchenko writes: > Bastien writes: > >> Our commitment is that the latest Org version is compatible with the >> last three stable versions of Emacs. >> >> So when Emacs 28 and Org 9.6 are both out, we guarantee that Org is >> compatible with Emacs 28, 27 and 26. >> >> Does that explain

Re: [PATCH] Accept more :tangle-mode specification forms

2021-11-21 Thread Tim Cross
Timothy writes: > Hi Tim, > >>> The parsing of “555” to the integer 555 is done by >>> org-babel-parse-header-arguments, and so can’t really be changed. >> >> I don't understand this. Why can't it be changed? > > Well, it can't be changed without changing > org-babel-parse-header-arguments,

Re: [PATCH] Accept more :tangle-mode specification forms

2021-11-20 Thread Tim Cross
Timothy writes: > * For example, “:tangle-mode 755” will now produce the warning: > “1363 is not a valid file mode octal. Did you give the decimal value 755 by > mistake?”. Maybe it would be worth adding “if so try o755” or similar? I think that warning will be confusing for users. They

Re: [PATCH] Accept more :tangle-mode specification forms

2021-11-20 Thread Tim Cross
Timothy writes: > The parsing of “555” to the integer 555 is done by > org-babel-parse-header-arguments, and so can’t really be changed. For a simple > octal notation our best bet is adding non-digit characters so it is left as a > string, e.g. “o555”. I don't understand this. Why can't it be

Re: [PATCH] Accept more :tangle-mode specification forms

2021-11-19 Thread Tim Cross
Timothy writes: > Hi All, > > I thought I’d checked for this, but I’ve just noticed that :tangle-mode 755 > doesn’t actually work as expected. I assumed 755 would be passed as a string > but > org-babel-parse-header-arguments actually turns it into an integer, just like > (identity #o755).

Re: [DISCUSSION] Refactoring fontification system

2021-11-19 Thread Tim Cross
Ihor Radchenko writes: > Dear all, > > Recently, there have been multiple issues related to incorrect > fontification: > - https://list.orgmode.org/orgmode/23707.20428.546749.44...@frac.u-strasbg.fr/ > - https://list.orgmode.org/orgmode/87fsujp7mc@web.de/ > -

Re: after installing python3.6 on Ubuntu 16.04, org files open with errors

2021-11-13 Thread Tim Cross
Uwe Brauer writes: > [[S/MIME Signed Part:Undecided]] > >> Uwe Brauer writes: > > >> The whole transition from v2.x to v3.x for python has been a terrible >> mess. Version issues are the most frustrating aspect of Python and one >> reason I've never embraced the language. > >> Given that

Re: after installing python3.6 on Ubuntu 16.04, org files open with errors

2021-11-12 Thread Tim Cross
Uwe Brauer writes: > Hi > > I am running Ubuntu 16.04 and I installed python3.6 (which is not > officially supported for that Ubuntu version via > https://askubuntu.com/questions/865554/how-do-i-install-python-3-6-using-apt-get > > I also installed > > sudo -H python3.6 -m pip install

Re: whitespace in org source files

2021-11-12 Thread Tim Cross
excalamus--- via "General discussions about Org-mode." writes: > I'm hacking on ob-shell.el and I see that the source has mixed tabs and > spaces. > If I were to contribute changes, would it be an issue if tabs were converted > to > whitespace? > > I've not used the email contribution style

Re: typescript from org src buffer -- tide, lsp

2021-11-06 Thread Tim Cross
Greg Minshall writes: > hi. > > i'm wondering if anyone programming in typescript might have run into, > and solved, this "problem", of tangling into a subdirectory, and tide > [1] not being able to resolve "relative" imports. > > i have a file in path /a/b/foo.org. it includes various source

Re: Introducing Org-transclusion

2021-11-06 Thread Tim Cross
Noboru Ota writes: > Timothy writes: >> Hi Tim, >> > >>> I feel it is functionality which will be used by a subset of users >>> or by others only occasionally. > > Tim, thank you for your feedback. > Timothy, thank you for forwarding Tim's feedback into the loop. > > I think this assessment

Re: [BUG] Org V 9.5 error when ~/.cache doesn't exist

2021-11-05 Thread Tim Cross
Ihor Radchenko writes: > Kaushal Modi writes: > >> Figured out the problem.. looks like Org main branch doesn't support emacs >> 25. >> >> My build script was building Org for all emacs versions starting from >> version 25. It builds fine if remove the build for emacs 25. I think I >> missed

Re: Introducing Org-transclusion

2021-11-05 Thread Tim Cross
Noboru Ota writes: > Timothy writes: > >> It’s worth noting that currently Org’s minimum supported Emacs version is >> 25. Do >> you use much from Emacs 26/27? There was mention of compat.el earlier though, >> and if that goes somewhere this may not be an issue. > > Thank you, Timothy. I

Re: [BUG] Org V 9.5 error when ~/.cache doesn't exist

2021-11-02 Thread Tim Cross
Ihor Radchenko writes: > Max Nikulin writes: > >> Ihor, your fix affects linux as well. .cache directory may be missed in >> fresh accounts. E.g. I just have created a new test container (my old >> one has emacs-25): > > After second thought, I am not sure anymore if using XDG is a good

Re: Storing database credentials outside an org file

2021-10-31 Thread Tim Cross
Mike Gauland writes: > I often use an org file to record database queries, using sql source blocks. > I've been putting the database credentials in the file using header-args:sql > properties, but I'd prefer to have the credentials saved in a separate file > for > security reasons. > > Any

Re: SHIFT-TAB not working in Windows-SSH-shell or Debian-tty (sometimes "M-[ ~ is undefined")

2021-10-31 Thread Tim Cross
writes: > X-Post: https://github.com/daviwil/emacs-from-scratch/issues/67 > > Hello together. > > # Introduction > > I am quite new to emacs and building my init.el based the "Emacs from > Scratch" (by System Crafter) videos. In org-mode I experience some wired > behavior of the SHIFT-TAB key

Re: the GNU bug tracker, use it or have something similar? Gmane might block attachments in bug reports

2021-10-25 Thread Tim Cross
Uwe Brauer writes: > Hi > > org-submit-bug-report sends an email to the org-mode mailing list. It > turns out, that if you attach a file and later display that message on > gmane, as I do in order to keep my email traffic in moderate numbers, > then gmane might block that attachment. > > Now

Re: A quick LaTeX reference guide in Org

2021-10-24 Thread Tim Cross
Juan Manuel Macías writes: > Hi, > > The TeXstudio editor includes a comprehensive LaTeX reference guide in > HTML > (https://github.com/texstudio-org/texstudio/blob/master/utilities/latexhelp.html). > I have converted it to Org with Pandoc (and then cleaned it up and fixed > some broken

Re: Evaluate or execute?

2021-10-24 Thread Tim Cross
"Thomas S. Dye" writes: > Aloha all, > > The org manual and various documents on Worg appear to use the subject terms > as > synonyms for running a bit of source code and gathering its result. Is there > a > useful distinction that this non-software engineer is missing? Or, are the > terms

Re: Fwd: errors when using org-agenda

2021-10-24 Thread Tim Cross
Greg Minshall writes: > Tim, > > i wonder if the emacs variable `load-history` might be of (approximate) > help? i submit a starter routine below. as the comments say: caveat, > caveat, caveat. > > i don't think something as uncertain as this would be a candidate for > normal run-time

Re: [PATCH] Re: Fwd: errors when using org-agenda

2021-10-24 Thread Tim Cross
Ihor Radchenko writes: > Tim Cross writes: > >> What would really be needed is some way to check when org is going to be >> compiled that no existing org functionality is loaded. Doubt this can be >> easily done within org itself because of a chicken and egg pro

Re: Fwd: errors when using org-agenda

2021-10-23 Thread Tim Cross
Greg Minshall writes: > (and, after fifteen years of vi, and now 25 of emacs, i guess i'll skip > the spacemacs experience. :) > Similar past for me as well. I used vi from early/mid 80x until mid 90s and then switched to Emacs and used standard Emacs bindings until a couple of years ago,

Re: Fwd: errors when using org-agenda

2021-10-23 Thread Tim Cross
Greg Minshall writes: > Tim, et al., > >> These types of errors are frequently caused by a 'mixed' installation >> of org versions. This will happen if you upgrade org when org is >> already loaded in the instance of emacs used to perform the upgrade. > > a question: is there any way that we

Re: Fwd: errors when using org-agenda

2021-10-22 Thread Tim Cross
William McCoy writes: > I am modifying my previous message (that has not yet appeared on this list) > with > some additional information regarding this issue: > > > I have been having some strange errors when using org-agenda.  The errors seem > to have begun about the time I upgraded to org

Re: [BUG in org master?]

2021-10-22 Thread Tim Cross
Uwe Brauer writes: > [[S/MIME Signed Part:Undecided]] > >> Uwe Brauer writes: > > >> What is the setting for electric-indent-mode in the org buffer? > > , > | electric-indent-mode is a variable defined in ‘electric.el’. > | > | Its value is nil > | Original value was t > ` > > Not

Re: [BUG in org master?] (was: how to indent (or refill) properties)

2021-10-22 Thread Tim Cross
Uwe Brauer writes: > [[S/MIME Signed Part:Undecided]] "KLG" == Kévin Le Gouguec writes: > > Thanks > >> Uwe Brauer writes: >>> But I would like them to be indented like this >>> >>> ** DONE G1 >>> :H1:G1: >>> :PROPERTIES: >

Re: [BUG] org-toggle-headline inserts "TODO" regardless of local definitions [9.5 (9.5-g0a86ad @ /home/rasmus/.emacs.d/elpa/org-9.5/)]

2021-10-17 Thread Tim Cross
Ihor Radchenko writes: > autofrettage writes: > >> * DONE Apple >> ** TODO Banana >> >> ...instead of these: >> >> * baz Apple >> ** foo Banana > > Confirmed. > > Currently, checkbox to todo keyword mapping is hard-coded in > org-list-to-subtree. > > We may use something like > [ ] -> (car

Re: org-table-blank-field key binding removal

2021-10-13 Thread Tim Cross
Eric Abrahamsen writes: > Kyle Meyer writes: > >> Michael Brand writes: >> >>> The change is not announced in ORG-NEWS. I think it should be in Version >>> 9.4. >> >> Right, I agree this change should have come with a NEWS entry, though >> 0c4e844c8 (Remove default binding for

Re: How to keep getting org updates

2021-10-13 Thread Tim Cross
Galaxy Being writes: > Appreciate the help and encouragement. This pinning business ... seems like > musical chairs with different suggestions here and > there. Should I use this suggestion, or maybe this one, or...? And where is > the maintained list of packages? I see > .../elpa/archives/

Re: How to keep getting org updates

2021-10-12 Thread Tim Cross
Galaxy Being writes: > This is in my init.el > > ... > (setq package-archives '(("ELPA" . "http://tromey.com/elpa/;) > ("gnu" . "http://elpa.gnu.org/packages/;) > ("melpa" . "https://melpa.org/packages/;) > ("org" . "https://orgmode.org/elpa/;))) > ... > > I'm guessing the last line is no

Re: 9.5: coping with loss of ditaa.jar

2021-10-10 Thread Tim Cross
Another alternative which I just found is the ditaa version on github, which has SVG support. See https://github.com/stathissideris/ditaa. If you click on the 'release' link on the right, there is the most recent release, which includes a link to a standalone ditaa.jar file. I've not tried this

Re: 9.5: coping with loss of ditaa.jar

2021-10-10 Thread Tim Cross
Jarmo Hurri writes: > Greetings. > > Let me collect the suggested responses with their merits and potential > issues. > > 1. Use ditaa.jar that comes with your operating system. Perfect if this >works. Seems to work e.g. in Debian, does not seem to work with >Fedora. Perhaps because

Re: 9.5: coping with loss of ditaa.jar

2021-10-04 Thread Tim Cross
Eric S Fraga writes: > On Sunday, 3 Oct 2021 at 07:25, Jarmo Hurri wrote: >> 1. I am running Fedora 34, where ditaa is available as a >>package. However, just pointing org-ditaa-jar-path to the correct >>location /usr/share/java/ditaa.jar is not sufficient, because doing >>so

Re: Feature request: in org html export, option to disable id & class properties.

2021-10-03 Thread Tim Cross
Zachary Kanfer writes: > Sure, I'm generally interested in making this useful. Weird that it claims to > be part of org, but isn't. > > I do think it would be useful to have a minimalist html exporter in org, > whether slimhtml or some other one. The built-in html > exporter is rather

Re: Elegant way to export org to Markdown ?

2021-10-02 Thread Tim Cross
Jean-Christophe Helary writes: > I'm trying to work with SourceHut (sr.ht) and right now they only accept > Markdown syntax for their readme/wiki files. > > Since I work in Emacs/org-mode to write my documents (and try to stick to > that), > I'd like to know if there is an elegant way to

Re: [PATCH] Don't fill displayed equations

2021-09-30 Thread Tim Cross
Nicolas Goaziou writes: > Hello, > > Colin Baxter writes: > >>> Nicolas Goaziou writes: >> >> > Timothy writes: >> >> Nicolas Goaziou writes: >> >> >> >>> I strongly disagree with this. \[...\] is an inline element, not >> >>> a block element. As such, it can be

Re: Merging latest org-mode for Emacs 28.1

2021-09-28 Thread Tim Cross
Timothy writes: > Hi Tim, > >> A new version org 9.5 is going to be released this week. Not sure if >> Emacs maintainers want to bundle this new version or prefer to just >> continue with current 9.4 version. I suspect the latest 9.4 will be the >> preferred version given 9.5 is only going to

Re: Merging latest org-mode for Emacs 28.1

2021-09-28 Thread Tim Cross
Stefan Kangas writes: > Hi org-mode, > > Stefan Kangas writes: > >> As a heads up, Emacs is getting ready to cut the emacs-28 branch in >> preparation of the upcoming release of Emacs 28.1: >> >> https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/emacs-devel/2021-07/msg00812.html >> >> It would be good

Re: Bug: Org mode fails to compile using Emacs 24.5-r10

2021-09-28 Thread Tim Cross
Max Nikulin writes: > On 28/09/2021 12:33, Bastien wrote: >> Tim Cross writes: >> >>> I do think it is probably time to drop support for Emacs 24 in the next >>> major release. However, we cannot drop it 'mid release'. >> I've added a section ca

Re: Bug: Org mode fails to compile using Emacs 24.5-r10 [9.4.5 (9.4.5-g3ea248 @ /home/yantar92/.emacs.d/straight/build/org/)]

2021-09-28 Thread Tim Cross
Bastien writes: > Hi Tim, > > Tim Cross writes: > >> I do think it is probably time to drop support for Emacs 24 in the next >> major release. However, we cannot drop it 'mid release'. > > I've added a section called "Compatibility with Emacs versions"

Re: S-M-{,} on CLOCK timestamp

2021-09-24 Thread Tim Cross
Timothy writes: > Hi Tim, > > Jorge P. de Morais Neto writes: > >> I am sorry, my description of the initial condition was incomplete. To >> reproduce the problem, you cannot simply copy the provided text to an >> Org buffer. You should create the clock timestamps with actual clocking >>

Re: Publish error: wrong argument number

2021-09-16 Thread Tim Cross
Colin Baxter writes: >> Colin Baxter writes: > > > Hello, Today I get a "wrong-number-of-arguments" publish > > error. This was not present a few weeks ago. It is also not > > present in Org-version 9.4.4 but does occur in the latest version > > of org-mode. > > > I'd

Re: S-M-{,} on CLOCK timestamp

2021-09-13 Thread Tim Cross
Timothy writes: > Hi Tim, > > Jorge P. de Morais Neto writes: > >> I am sorry, my description of the initial condition was incomplete. To >> reproduce the problem, you cannot simply copy the provided text to an >> Org buffer. You should create the clock timestamps with actual clocking >>

Re: [BUG?][PATCH] Should the `lexical-binding' variable be bound during src block with :lexical t? [9.4.6 (9.4.6-ga451f9 @ /home/n/.emacs.d/straight/build/org/)]

2021-09-09 Thread Tim Cross
No Wayman writes: > I ran into this with some code I'm writing which checks against > `lexical-binding'. > Should the following result in "lexical binding enabled" or > "lexical binding disabled"?: > > #+begin_src emacs-lisp :lexical t > (message "lexical binding %sabled" (if lexical-binding

Re: Bug Re: Greater than, less than bug in emacs-lisp source block

2021-09-05 Thread Tim Cross
Arthur Miller writes: > I haven't tested the updated version of JK's proposal, but looking at the > source > it seems to be a tad bit resource heavy. If it isn't a hassle for the OP to > use > aliases like lt, gt or similar, I would suggest that either using macros or > simple defalias to

Re: Bug Re: Greater than, less than bug in emacs-lisp source block

2021-09-04 Thread Tim Cross
- > Professor John Kitchin (he/him/his) > Doherty Hall A207F > Department of Chemical Engineering > Carnegie Mellon University > Pittsburgh, PA 15213 > 412-268-7803 > @johnkitchin > http://kitchingroup.cheme.cmu.edu > > On Fri, Sep 3, 2021 at 9:47 AM Tim Cross wrote: &g

Re: Bug Re: Greater than, less than bug in emacs-lisp source block

2021-09-03 Thread Tim Cross
I think what is happening here is that org is bumping up against fundamental design limitations of Emacs. In basic terms, much of Emacs' underlying design is based on an assumption that a file only has a single major mode. Org works hard to get around this limitation, but it comes with cost -

Re: What happened to ./contrib?

2021-08-25 Thread Tim Cross
The contrib directory has been broken out into its own git repository at https://git.sr.ht/~bzg/org-contrib and the main org repository is moving to be hosted on savannah.gnu.org (I think it is mirrored there already). This is all in preparation for having the contrib extensions available as an

Re: Bug: File variable no longer on first line when running org-id-get-create [9.4.4 (release_9.4.4 @ /usr/share/emacs/27.2/lisp/org/)]

2021-08-22 Thread Tim Cross
I would argue this is an org-roam bug rather than an org bug and so needs to be reported to the org-roam maintainers. org-roam is not part of org mode. Peter Prevos writes: > Hi, I use file variables on the first line of some Org mode files to indicate > the local Flyspell dictionary, e.g.:

Re: S-M-{,} on CLOCK timestamp

2021-08-21 Thread Tim Cross
"Jorge P. de Morais Neto" writes: > Keywords: org-timestamp-down org-timestamp-up > > Hi. Suppose the buffer has the following text: > > * Task A > :LOGBOOK: > CLOCK: [2021-08-21 sáb 18:00]--[2021-08-21 sáb 18:10] => 0:10 > :END: > > * Task B > :LOGBOOK: > CLOCK: [2021-08-21 sáb 18:18] >

Re: Bug: org-timestamp-{down,up} with numeric argument on time range modifies length [9.4.6 (9.4.6-gab9f2a @ /gnu/store/yg6kjzigqyfzbkzj99xmwmv3nssvhvnq-emacs-org-9.4.6/share/emacs/site-lisp/org-9.4.6

2021-08-21 Thread Tim Cross
Confirm. I am able to confirm this bug using Emacs 27.2 and org 9.4.6 from ELPA. It seems that when changing the first time interval with a C-u argument to set the amount of change, the units are not applied to the second time in the interval, it always changes by 5. So [2021-08-22 Sun

Re: forms and org-mode

2021-08-21 Thread Tim Cross
Ihor Radchenko writes: > Greg Minshall writes: > >> wasn't there also some talk a while back about whatever form'ish >> technology "magit" uses? my sense was it provides something similar to >> Emacs forms. > > To clarify, I am not aware about Emacs forms (unless you refer to > widgets used

Re: forms and org-mode

2021-08-21 Thread Tim Cross
son for using forms to do data input into org tables is to minimize > errors in the data input to the org tables. > > On Sat, 21 Aug 2021, Tim Cross wrote: > >> >> So you are asking about using Emacs forms for data input into an org >> table? >> >> Just not clear

Re: forms and org-mode

2021-08-20 Thread Tim Cross
So you are asking about using Emacs forms for data input into an org table? Just not clear on what exactly your asking about. Jude DaShiell writes: > A table with a time stamp column, a text column for notes and an interval > column rounded to nearest hour. Any statistics to be calculated

Re: Bug: campany-capf throwing an error in org-mode, while entering header args [9.4.6 (9.4.6-12-gdcc3a8-elpaplus @ /home/mypc/.emacs.d/elpa/org-plus-contrib-20210809/)]

2021-08-19 Thread Tim Cross
Is this something which should really be reported to the company-capf maintainers? C K writes: > Remember to cover the basics, that is, what you expected to happen and > what in fact did happen. You don't know how to make a good report? See > >

Re: Build agenda asynchronously

2021-08-17 Thread Tim Cross
Milan Zamazal writes: >>>>>> "TC" == Tim Cross writes: > > TC> Personally, I took a different route. I keep the number of files > TC> which contribute to my agenda to a minimum and have an easy way > TC> to update/change that li

Re: Build agenda asynchronously

2021-08-17 Thread Tim Cross
"Dr. Arne Babenhauserheide" writes: > [[PGP Signed Part:Undecided]] > > Tim Cross writes: > >> Emacs' support for asynchronous operations is at best primitive. There >> is built-in support for calling processes asynchonously and >> there is some

Re: Bug: :session results in unfriendly error reporting

2021-08-17 Thread Tim Cross
Greg Minshall writes: > Charles, > > being sympathetic with the idea of better error reporting, i'm curious > about the following. > >> Right. But there is no error as far as babel is concerned. R has >> handled the condition. So there is nothing for babel to see/do. > ... >> Running R in this

Re: Build agenda asynchronously

2021-08-16 Thread Tim Cross
Emacs' support for asynchronous operations is at best primitive. There is built-in support for calling processes asynchonously and there is some other development work to set the stage for adding threads, but I think general asynchronous processing inside Emacs is a long way off. A lot of how

Re: [PATCH] Rename headline to heading

2021-08-15 Thread Tim Cross
Jim Porter writes: > > In any case, if Org were to add an informative message about this change, > `org-capture-upgrade-templates' seems to me a reasonable place to do it since > it's already doing this for other obsolete types. In fact, looking at the > commit > history, that function was

Re: [PATCH] Rename headline to heading

2021-08-15 Thread Tim Cross
Jim Porter writes: > On 8/14/2021 3:54 PM, Tim Cross wrote: >> I'm not convinced a transition period will help in this case. At some >> point, users will need to update their capture templates regardless. >> Provided this impact is clearly outlined in the NEWS.org file (I

Re: Bug: `org-fill-paragraph' relies on M-q being bound to `fill-paragraph' [9.4.6 (9.4.6-12-gdcc3a8-elpa @ /home/mwj/.emacs.d/elpa/org-20210809/)]

2021-08-15 Thread Tim Cross
This seems not only wrong, but also dangerous. I don't think org should make any assumptions about what is bound to a key, especially when talking about a key binding which is not an org binding. Consider what might occur if the user had rebound that key to something destructive. "Marvin J."

Re: [PATCH] minor typo fix in org-tutorials/org-protocol-custom-handler.org

2021-08-14 Thread Tim Cross
this is a trivial fix and should be applied. Atlas Cove writes: > From: Atlas48 > > As it says, this is a minor fix to worg. > > --- > org-tutorials/org-protocol-custom-handler.org | 2 +- > 1 file changed, 1 insertion(+), 1 deletion(-) > > diff --git

Re: [PATCH] Rename headline to heading

2021-08-14 Thread Tim Cross
this patch looks pretty good to me. My only suggestion is that the need to update capture templates be made more explicit in the NEWS.org file. I'm assuming this patch would only be applied to the next release and not maint branch. Probably important to try and apply this before the main branch

Re: [PATCH] Rename headline to heading

2021-08-14 Thread Tim Cross
Maxim Nikulin writes: > On 05/08/2021 19:12, André A. Gomes wrote: >> @@ -963,7 +963,7 @@ Store them in the capture property list." >> (org-capture-put-target-region-and-position) >> (goto-char position)) >> (_ (error "Cannot find target ID \"%s\"" id >> -

Re: Org + git branches for derived files

2021-08-13 Thread Tim Cross
Ken Mankoff writes: > Hello, > > I think this might be more of a git question than an Org question, but I > imagine > I might find the answer here and that it might be useful to others, so I ask > here. > > I'd like to keep derivative products (the LaTeX output, the final PDF, etc.) >

Re: archiving speed [was Re: Tips on maintaining history in Org Mode]

2021-08-12 Thread Tim Cross
t is the current status of hierarchy in archive files? surely they > don't deal with updating categories and updating hierarchy structure > [sounds brittle and syncy]? i'm thinking it isn't hierarchical at > present, except when you have a doneified task with children? > > > On 8

Re: archiving speed [was Re: Tips on maintaining history in Org Mode]

2021-08-11 Thread Tim Cross
ge, re-calculations make things extremely slow. > > > > Best, > > Ihor > > > > > -- > The Kafka Pandemic > > Please learn what misopathy is. > > https://thekafkapandemic.blogspot.com/2013/10/why-some-diseases-are-wronged.html > > -- regards, Tim -- Tim Cross

Re: [Concept talk] Org-connector

2021-08-10 Thread Tim Cross
Sébastien Gendre writes: > Hello everyone, > > I wanted to talk about a concept for Org-mode. For now it's just a > concept, but maybe it already exist a package that do it. > > The concept is called org-connector: It's a package that let you connect > an Org-mode file with an external tickets

Re: bug: Error handling in source blocks.

2021-08-10 Thread Tim Cross
James Powell writes: >   Error handling is important and hard to get right.  Me, I prefer to >   treat every warning as an error (-Werror in gcc, "options(warn=2)" in >   R, etc).  I want the system to grind to a halt at the least sign of >   trouble. > >   When I write some nonsense into a

Re: [BUG] Fill-paragraph issue with hidden emphasis markers and composed characters

2021-08-09 Thread Tim Cross
I was able to reproduce this using Emacs 28.0.50 and emacs -Q. It is important to ensure both of the below paragraphs are completely 'unwrapped' i.e. all on one line and then wrap them with M-q. The result seems counter-intuitive to me - the second paragraph with an extra character is wrapped

Re: [ANN] icsorg - node script to import events into org

2021-08-08 Thread Tim Cross
Eric S Fraga writes: > This looks very nice. It would be good if a link and short description > (e.g. your email contents) were added to the page you cite on Worg. I don't have access to worg, but if anyone would like to update that page and add my email (which they are free to edit) I would

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