Re: Error while bootstrapping GNU Emacs 22.1.50

2007-07-28 Thread Eli Zaretskii
From: Peter Dyballa [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Sat, 28 Jul 2007 15:27:23 +0200 Hello! Compilation ends with: In end of data: dcl-mode.el:2223:1:Warning: the function `imenu-default-create-index- function' is not known to be defined. Wrote

Re: Error while bootstrapping GNU Emacs 22.1.50

2007-07-28 Thread Eli Zaretskii
Cc: emacs-pretest-bug@gnu.org From: Peter Dyballa [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Sat, 28 Jul 2007 23:22:33 +0200 SIGILL stands for illegal instruction. Is it so absurd to assume that some changed part of GNU Emacs, byte code compiler, is faulty? No, it's not absurd. But given that it worked to

Re: Error while bootstrapping GNU Emacs 22.1.50

2007-07-28 Thread Eli Zaretskii
Cc: emacs-pretest-bug@gnu.org From: Peter Dyballa [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Sun, 29 Jul 2007 00:40:24 +0200 0 bootstrap-emacs 0x001485d8 Fsqrt + 100 (floatfns.c:561) That's the line where `sqrt' is called. I'll try GCC 4.2 in the morning, then hardware test. Yes, a good plan,

Re: compile error on Windows XP

2007-07-17 Thread Eli Zaretskii
Cc: emacs-pretest-bug@gnu.org From: Zhang Wei [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Tue, 17 Jul 2007 13:26:53 +0800 Eli Zaretskii [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I suspect that this is some strange interaction between MSYS and MinGW (you do use MSYS Bash and maybe MSYS Make, right?). You didn't upgrade

Re: compile error on Windows XP

2007-07-16 Thread Eli Zaretskii
Cc: emacs-pretest-bug@gnu.org From: Zhang Wei [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Mon, 16 Jul 2007 21:33:34 +0800 I upgraded MinGW to version 3.12, but run into another compilation error: I'm sorry that I caused you trouble. gcc -I. -DWIN32_LEAN_AND_MEAN -D_WIN32_WINNT=0x0501 -D_X86_=1 -c

Re: compile error on Windows XP

2007-07-16 Thread Eli Zaretskii
Cc: emacs-pretest-bug@gnu.org From: Zhang Wei [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Tue, 17 Jul 2007 05:57:47 +0800 and I rechecked the emacsclient.c file, it is there. That's expected: the error message says that GCC didn't see any input files on its command line, not that the file is not found. Looks

Re: compile error on Windows XP

2007-07-15 Thread Eli Zaretskii
From: Zhang Wei [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Sun, 15 Jul 2007 20:58:16 +0800 Cc: emacs-pretest-bug@gnu.org Jason Rumney [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Zhang Wei wrote: process.c: In function `conv_sockaddr_to_lisp': process.c:2307: `uint16_t' undeclared (first use in this function)

Re: compile error on Windows XP

2007-07-15 Thread Eli Zaretskii
From: Zhang Wei [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: Zhang Wei [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], emacs-pretest-bug@gnu.org Date: Mon, 16 Jul 2007 05:55:47 +0800 Eli Zaretskii [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Can you please tell what version of MinGW do you have installed? (You should be able to see

Re: Emacs 23.0.0.1 fails parsing gdb output

2007-07-14 Thread Eli Zaretskii
From: Nick Roberts [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Sat, 14 Jul 2007 12:21:55 +1200 Cc: emacs-pretest-bug@gnu.org IMO, it's not nice to change the package semantic in such radical ways behind users' backs. I know a few people who like the current M-x gdb and will not be pleased to see the

Re: `cp' don't preserve timestamps by default on windows-xp

2007-07-14 Thread Eli Zaretskii
Cc: emacs-pretest-bug@gnu.org From: Zhang Wei [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Sat, 14 Jul 2007 19:22:59 +0800 Eli Zaretskii [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I guess we could rewrite the install target in lisp/Makefile so that it copies the *.el files first. Done. Please resync with the CVS

Re: Info pages opened with an incorrect coding system

2007-07-14 Thread Eli Zaretskii
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], emacs-pretest-bug@gnu.org From: Zhang Wei [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Sat, 14 Jul 2007 19:23:50 +0800 Eli Zaretskii [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: [...] I have now installed a change to use @documentencoding and the --enable-encoding switch, so

Re: Emacs 23.0.0.1 fails parsing gdb output

2007-07-13 Thread Eli Zaretskii
From: Nick Roberts [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Fri, 13 Jul 2007 23:26:20 +1200 Cc: emacs-pretest-bug@gnu.org This is a suggestion to the mailing list, but also a RFA to RMS. Now that gdb-ui is part of the release, how about renaming gdb to gdbf and gdba to gdb on the trunk so that the new

Re: `cp' don't preserve timestamps by default on windows-xp

2007-07-13 Thread Eli Zaretskii
From: Eli Zaretskii [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Wed, 11 Jul 2007 03:50:49 -0400 Cc: emacs-pretest-bug@gnu.org I guess we could rewrite the install target in lisp/Makefile so that it copies the *.el files first. Done. Please resync with the CVS and see if the problem is gone

Re: Portability of `cp -p' (was: `cp' don't preserve timestamps by default on windows-xp)

2007-07-13 Thread Eli Zaretskii
From: Reiner Steib [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: Zhang Wei [EMAIL PROTECTED], emacs-pretest-bug@gnu.org Date: Fri, 13 Jul 2007 18:44:18 +0200 I'm not aware of any cp implementation that doesn't support `-p' and I didn't find anything wrt this in (info (autoconf)Limitations of Usual Tools). Do you

Re: Info pages opened with an incorrect coding system

2007-07-13 Thread Eli Zaretskii
Date: Sat, 07 Jul 2007 23:51:55 +0300 From: Eli Zaretskii [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: emacs-pretest-bug@gnu.org, [EMAIL PROTECTED] That is why I asked what it is that makes chinese-iso-8bit the default on his system. His language environment is Chinese, so chinese-iso-8bit is high

Re: `cp' don't preserve timestamps by default on windows-xp

2007-07-11 Thread Eli Zaretskii
From: Zhang Wei [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Wed, 11 Jul 2007 12:06:40 +0800 The `cp' command of my installation don't preserve timestamps by default `cp' never did. Only the Windows copy commands do. that makes the .elc files and the .el files have same timestamps as they are installed, and

Re: `cp' don't preserve timestamps by default on windows-xp

2007-07-11 Thread Eli Zaretskii
From: Zhang Wei [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Wed, 11 Jul 2007 14:37:41 +0800 Eli Zaretskii [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: If they have the same timestamps, why do you get source is newer messages? I don't get them on my machine, and lread.c explicitly checks for .elc time _less_ than the .el

Re: `cp' don't preserve timestamps by default on windows-xp

2007-07-11 Thread Eli Zaretskii
From: Zhang Wei [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Wed, 11 Jul 2007 15:12:24 +0800 Windows XP SP2, FAT32 filesystem (both source and dest). Hmm, it might be an issue with FAT32 timestamps. Could you please add -v to the `cp' switches and post here everything that `cp' displays while copying the lisp/

Re: Info pages opened with an incorrect coding system

2007-07-10 Thread Eli Zaretskii
Date: Mon, 9 Jul 2007 16:14:15 -0500 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Karl Berry) Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED], emacs-pretest-bug@gnu.org, [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] source was written well, I can't agree that it is bad to use literal characters instead of Texinfo commands. Perhaps

Re: Info pages opened with an incorrect coding system

2007-07-10 Thread Eli Zaretskii
Date: Tue, 10 Jul 2007 13:10:17 -0500 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Karl Berry) Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED], emacs-pretest-bug@gnu.org, [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] Anyway, back to the suggestion at hand: fine, I will make the --enable-encoding behavior the default when @documentencoding is

Re: Info pages opened with an incorrect coding system

2007-07-09 Thread Eli Zaretskii
From: Richard Stallman [EMAIL PROTECTED] CC: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], emacs-pretest-bug@gnu.org Date: Sun, 08 Jul 2007 18:23:28 -0400 It is pure luck if an Info file was generated for the same character set that your terminal supports. That's not what

Re: Info pages opened with an incorrect coding system

2007-07-09 Thread Eli Zaretskii
Date: Sun, 8 Jul 2007 17:56:12 -0500 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Karl Berry) Cc: emacs-pretest-bug@gnu.org, [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] I could easily change things so that the Local Variables section was always output if a @documentencoding was present. I don't see any particular

Re: Info pages opened with an incorrect coding system

2007-07-07 Thread Eli Zaretskii
From: Richard Stallman [EMAIL PROTECTED] CC: [EMAIL PROTECTED], emacs-pretest-bug@gnu.org Date: Sat, 07 Jul 2007 09:06:32 -0400 Richard, is it okay to assume Texinfo 4.6 for the CVS trunk? To support @documentencoding, when it appears in a .texi file, would not require anyone to move

Re: Info pages opened with an incorrect coding system

2007-07-07 Thread Eli Zaretskii
From: Richard Stallman [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Sat, 07 Jul 2007 16:46:53 -0400 Cc: emacs-pretest-bug@gnu.org On the other hand, we might also want to fix a coding system for Info files, so that their handling will not depend on the locale. How? Do you mean to encode Info files in UTF-8 or

Re: Info pages opened with an incorrect coding system

2007-07-07 Thread Eli Zaretskii
Date: Sat, 7 Jul 2007 16:42:05 -0500 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Karl Berry) Cc: emacs-pretest-bug@gnu.org, [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] If you use the @documentencoding command in the Texinfo source, and then specify --enable-encoding to makeinfo, the resulting Info file(s) will

Re: Info pages opened with an incorrect coding system

2007-07-06 Thread Eli Zaretskii
From: Zhang Wei [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Fri, 06 Jul 2007 09:56:08 +0800 This problem happens with emacs -Q, I don't think my .emacs cause this. Right. I managed to reproduce this problem on my machine in emacs -Q. The comments in emacs-mime.texi specify which coding system should be

Re: Info pages opened with an incorrect coding system

2007-07-04 Thread Eli Zaretskii
From: Zhang Wei [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Wed, 04 Jul 2007 21:56:40 +0800 When I enter Info, the info doc is allways opened with chinese-iso-8bit coding system which is the default of my installation. Thank you for reporting this. Unfortunately, I seem to be unable to reproduce this on my XP

Re: dired can't open dir name contains `[' and `]'

2007-06-23 Thread Eli Zaretskii
From: Zhang Wei [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Tue, 19 Jun 2007 14:13:01 +0800 Eli Zaretskii [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: [...] Recent messages: ls-lisp-insert-directory: Invalid regexp: Unmatched [ or [^ I don't get this message, though. Can you tell how you managed to trigger

Re: dired can't open dir name contains `[' and `]'

2007-06-23 Thread Eli Zaretskii
From: Zhang Wei [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Tue, 19 Jun 2007 04:11:06 +0800 If a directory's name contains `[' and `]' such as `[music]', dired can't open it. It display a No match message under the dir name other than the contents of the dir: --8---cut

Re: dired can't open dir name contains `[' and `]'

2007-06-23 Thread Eli Zaretskii
From: Zhang Wei [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Tue, 19 Jun 2007 14:13:01 +0800 Eli Zaretskii [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: [...] Recent messages: ls-lisp-insert-directory: Invalid regexp: Unmatched [ or [^ I don't get this message, though. Can you tell how you managed to trigger

Re: dired can't open dir name contains `[' and `]'

2007-06-23 Thread Eli Zaretskii
Date: Sat, 23 Jun 2007 13:05:41 +0300 From: Eli Zaretskii [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: emacs-pretest-bug@gnu.org From: Zhang Wei [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Tue, 19 Jun 2007 14:13:01 +0800 Eli Zaretskii [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: [...] Recent messages: ls-lisp-insert-directory

Re: dired can't open dir name contains `[' and `]'

2007-06-19 Thread Eli Zaretskii
From: Zhang Wei [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Tue, 19 Jun 2007 14:13:01 +0800 Eli Zaretskii [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: [...] Recent messages: ls-lisp-insert-directory: Invalid regexp: Unmatched [ or [^ I don't get this message, though. Can you tell how you managed to trigger

Re: dired can't open dir name contains `[' and `]'

2007-06-18 Thread Eli Zaretskii
From: Zhang Wei [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Tue, 19 Jun 2007 04:11:06 +0800 If a directory's name contains `[' and `]' such as `[music]', dired can't open it. It display a No match message under the dir name other than the contents of the dir: --8---cut

Re: key binding of `M-' shows up in menu as (M-)

2007-06-17 Thread Eli Zaretskii
Date: Sun, 17 Jun 2007 15:32:18 +0200 From: Lennart Borgman (gmail) [EMAIL PROTECTED] CC: [EMAIL PROTECTED], emacs-pretest-bug@gnu.org Unfortunately I do not think that is the right change. This totally spoils the possibility to use accelerators for the menus on w32. I do not think the

Re: key binding of `M-' shows up in menu as (M-)

2007-06-16 Thread Eli Zaretskii
From: Drew Adams [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Fri, 15 Jun 2007 08:32:26 -0700 emacs -Q Bind a command `foo' in a minibuffer completion map to `M-'. Add `foo' to the Minibuf menu: (define-key map [menu-bar minibuf foo] '(menu-item Foo It foo)) In the Minibuf menu, the item appears with the

Re: key binding of `M-' shows up in menu as (M-)

2007-06-16 Thread Eli Zaretskii
Date: Fri, 15 Jun 2007 21:43:08 +0200 From: Lennart Borgman (gmail) [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: Emacs-Pretest-Bug emacs-pretest-bug@gnu.org Drew Adams wrote: I think this is specific to w32. Yes needs to be escaped there. I hope you mean that Emacs or Emacs W32 should do the escaping.

Re: Dired sorting case sensitive on w32

2007-06-03 Thread Eli Zaretskii
Date: Mon, 04 Jun 2007 00:55:54 +0200 From: Lennart Borgman (gmail) [EMAIL PROTECTED] Dired sorts the file case sensitive on w32. I do not think that is what users on w32 expects since file names are case insensitive on w32 (except for the display of the names). This is on purpose: we

Re: display problem

2007-05-29 Thread Eli Zaretskii
From: Richard Stallman [EMAIL PROTECTED] CC: [EMAIL PROTECTED], emacs-pretest-bug@gnu.org, [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Tue, 29 May 2007 00:10:52 -0400 I think this way of merging a face and a character code in a single number is a kludge, a relic of an old era when Emacs didn't have any

Re: display problem

2007-05-29 Thread Eli Zaretskii
Cc: Kenichi Handa [EMAIL PROTECTED], emacs-pretest-bug@gnu.org, [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: Miles Bader [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Tue, 29 May 2007 13:15:56 +0900 Perhaps another, better mechanism will come along which will supplant glyph codes entirely, but there isn't one yet (AFAIK).

Re: display problem

2007-05-29 Thread Eli Zaretskii
Cc: Eli Zaretskii [EMAIL PROTECTED], emacs-pretest-bug@gnu.org, [EMAIL PROTECTED], Kenichi Handa [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Kim F. Storm) Date: Tue, 29 May 2007 12:01:36 +0200 We discussed using a cons cell (FACE . CHAR) for Emacs 23. Fine with me

Re: display problem

2007-05-28 Thread Eli Zaretskii
From: Kenichi Handa [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Mon, 28 May 2007 21:24:29 +0900 Cc: emacs-pretest-bug@gnu.org, [EMAIL PROTECTED] By the way, in emacs-unicode-2, make-glyph-code doesn't work for a face of ID greater than 511 (in Emacs 22, maximum face ID is 4095. I think there are fairly easy

Re: automatic base64 conversion for rmail?

2007-05-14 Thread Eli Zaretskii
Date: Mon, 14 May 2007 18:02:37 +0200 From: Francesco Potorti` [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: emacs-pretest-bug@gnu.org - download http://fly.isti.cnr.it/tmp/base54.mbox (I am appending it to Should have been http://fly.isti.cnr.it/tmp/base64.mbox, sorry. Got it now. This problem was due to a

Re: a bug in ps-print

2007-05-13 Thread Eli Zaretskii
Date: Sun, 13 May 2007 11:32:36 -0300 From: Vinicius Jose Latorre [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: emacs-pretest-bug@gnu.org, Kenichi Handa [EMAIL PROTECTED] 1. emacs-23 -nw -Q 2. M-x ps-print-buffer-with-faces RET `ps-default-fg' and `ps-default-bg' have the same color. Text won't

Re: automatic base64 conversion for rmail?

2007-05-13 Thread Eli Zaretskii
Date: Sun, 13 May 2007 16:35:16 +0200 From: Francesco Potorti` [EMAIL PROTECTED] Apperently RMAIL converts base64 messages automatically, but does not changes the Content-Transfer-Encoding header accordingly. To reproduce: - download http://fly.isti.cnr.it/tmp/base54.mbox (I am appending

Re: automatic base64 conversion for rmail?

2007-05-13 Thread Eli Zaretskii
Date: Sun, 13 May 2007 16:35:16 +0200 From: Francesco Potorti` [EMAIL PROTECTED] To reproduce: - download http://fly.isti.cnr.it/tmp/base54.mbox (I am appending it to the end of this mail, but I am not sure it will arrive intact) No attachment arrived with your message, and I cannot

Re: No F11 and F12 keys in rxvt terminal

2007-05-08 Thread Eli Zaretskii
From: Leo [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Wed, 09 May 2007 03:45:23 +0100 Running emacs in terminal 'urxvt'ยน, I seem to lose F11 and F12 keys. For example F11 behaves the same as F1 and F12 as F2. Is this a known problem? Does Emacs use lisp/term/rxvt.el in your case? If so, please see there for

Re: Maximization doesn't work properly on Windows Xp, Emacs 22.0.92.1

2007-05-06 Thread Eli Zaretskii
Date: Sun, 06 May 2007 21:19:53 +0200 From: Lennart Borgman (gmail) [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: emacs-pretest-bug@gnu.org The reason for the problem is that the Emacs window (frame) is not really maximized on MS Windows. That's true, but I'm not sure it's relevant. Even if Emacs doesn't really

Re: Recent change to Faccept_process_output

2007-05-06 Thread Eli Zaretskii
From: Richard Stallman [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Sun, 06 May 2007 13:57:10 -0400 Cc: emacs-pretest-bug@gnu.org The reason I have mostly stopped discussing changes with people is that I expect them to respond mechanically with Don't make this change because I want a release NOW. Since I

Re: Maximization doesn't work properly on Windows Xp, Emacs 22.0.92.1

2007-05-06 Thread Eli Zaretskii
Date: Sun, 06 May 2007 22:40:52 +0200 From: Lennart Borgman (gmail) [EMAIL PROTECTED] CC: [EMAIL PROTECTED], emacs-pretest-bug@gnu.org I believe Windows is beeing fooled by the way Emacs tries to make a semi-maximized window. How can Emacs fool Windows? All we do is create a window; if

Re: git mirror of emacs CVS repository

2007-05-06 Thread Eli Zaretskii
From: Jim Meyering [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Sun, 06 May 2007 22:49:08 +0200 Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] I am maintaining a read-only GIT mirror of the Emacs CVS repository. Thanks! How about a URL for where to read about GIT? eliz=Eli Zaretskii [EMAIL PROTECTED] This address

Re: Maximization doesn't work properly on Windows Xp, Emacs 22.0.92.1

2007-05-06 Thread Eli Zaretskii
Date: Mon, 7 May 2007 01:44:52 +0200 From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Eivind_Midtg=E5rd?= [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: emacs-pretest-bug@gnu.org Windows XP SP2, Norwegian. I remember one other symptom of the semi-maximized Emacs window at the moment: I could move the maximized window (I can't do

Re: Recent change to Faccept_process_output

2007-05-05 Thread Eli Zaretskii
From: Romain Francoise [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Sun, 06 May 2007 01:06:31 +0200 Cc: emacs-pretest-bug@gnu.org Chong Yidong [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Is it on the branch? If so, that would be extremely annoying. This kind of change obviously shouldn't be made without discussion. Yes

Re: Emacs manual node Query Replace needs cross ref to Unconditional Replace

2007-04-23 Thread Eli Zaretskii
From: Drew Adams [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Tue, 17 Apr 2007 16:49:41 -0700 3. Actually, it looks as if the proper target for the missing cross reference (in both nodes mentioned) should be node Replacement and Case. Thanks, I did just that. ___

Re: Display problems with `before-string' in overlay

2007-04-17 Thread Eli Zaretskii
Date: Mon, 16 Apr 2007 22:58:47 +0200 From: Lennart Borgman (gmail) [EMAIL PROTECTED] CC: Juanma Barranquero [EMAIL PROTECTED], emacs-pretest-bug@gnu.org But let me turn the table around, Lennart, and ask you: what arguments will actually convince _you_ to change your mind on this?

Re: Display problems with `before-string' in overlay

2007-04-17 Thread Eli Zaretskii
Date: Tue, 17 Apr 2007 22:08:06 +0200 From: Lennart Borgman (gmail) [EMAIL PROTECTED] CC: [EMAIL PROTECTED], emacs-pretest-bug@gnu.org But let me turn the table around, Lennart, and ask you: what arguments will actually convince _you_ to change your mind on this? Following Karl

Re: Display problems with `before-string' in overlay

2007-04-17 Thread Eli Zaretskii
Date: Tue, 17 Apr 2007 23:29:12 +0200 From: Lennart Borgman (gmail) [EMAIL PROTECTED] CC: [EMAIL PROTECTED], emacs-pretest-bug@gnu.org I am not the easiest one to convince, but it is in no way impossible. You again are not answering the question. I think we should end this discussion, as

Re: expand-file-name leaves /../ in expansions at times

2007-04-17 Thread Eli Zaretskii
From: Miles Bader [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Wed, 18 Apr 2007 11:01:51 +0900 Cc: emacs-pretest-bug@gnu.org I always thought it was a rather clever idea. It certainly messes up assumptions some programs make, but I think the /.. == / assumption is generally rather rare in practice. [Compare

Re: Display problems with `before-string' in overlay

2007-04-16 Thread Eli Zaretskii
Date: Mon, 16 Apr 2007 09:57:44 +0200 From: Juanma Barranquero [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: emacs-pretest-bug@gnu.org On 4/16/07, Lennart Borgman (gmail) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Then what arguments are actually convincing to you? At this point in time, just days short of the intented

Re: Display problems with `before-string' in overlay

2007-04-16 Thread Eli Zaretskii
Date: Mon, 16 Apr 2007 10:38:14 +0200 From: Lennart Borgman (gmail) [EMAIL PROTECTED] CC: [EMAIL PROTECTED], emacs-pretest-bug@gnu.org Eli Zaretskii wrote: Date: Mon, 16 Apr 2007 03:14:13 +0200 From: Lennart Borgman (gmail) [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: emacs-pretest-bug@gnu.org

Re: Display problems with `before-string' in overlay

2007-04-15 Thread Eli Zaretskii
From: Richard Stallman [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Sun, 15 Apr 2007 09:59:10 -0400 Cc: emacs-pretest-bug@gnu.org, [EMAIL PROTECTED] It seems that you and I define serious in a different way. My criterion says that a bug where an important feature does something that is indisputably wrong and

Re: Display problems with `before-string' in overlay

2007-04-15 Thread Eli Zaretskii
Date: Sun, 15 Apr 2007 23:10:04 +0200 From: Lennart Borgman (gmail) [EMAIL PROTECTED] CC: [EMAIL PROTECTED], emacs-pretest-bug@gnu.org, [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] I think this analysis could be a big deal deeper and less general. I think that would help to create a more

Re: Display problems with `before-string' in overlay

2007-04-15 Thread Eli Zaretskii
Date: Mon, 16 Apr 2007 00:14:46 +0200 From: Lennart Borgman (gmail) [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: emacs-pretest-bug@gnu.org, Chong Yidong [EMAIL PROTECTED], Kim F. Storm [EMAIL PROTECTED] In other words: I have seen this bug. Yes, two years after its introduction. With luck, no one will see

Re: Display problems with `before-string' in overlay

2007-04-15 Thread Eli Zaretskii
Date: Mon, 16 Apr 2007 03:14:13 +0200 From: Lennart Borgman (gmail) [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: emacs-pretest-bug@gnu.org Then what arguments are actually convincing to you? Did you ever managed release of some software product, Lennart? Because if you didn't, then there's really no way we could

Re: display margin errors on a tty

2007-04-14 Thread Eli Zaretskii
From: Chong Yidong [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Sat, 14 Apr 2007 11:58:53 -0400 It forces a glyph matrix reallocation after each call to enlarge_window. The slowdown will be undetectable since redisplay is so fast on text terminals anyway. Are you sure redisplay is ``so fast''? what about

Re: Ugly W32 display bug - fontified letters chopped on right

2007-04-12 Thread Eli Zaretskii
Date: Thu, 12 Apr 2007 07:58:37 +0200 From: Lennart Borgman (gmail) [EMAIL PROTECTED] CC: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] Eli Zaretskii wrote: Date: Wed, 11 Apr 2007 22:53:18 +0200 From: Lennart Borgman (gmail) [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED], Kim F

Re: Display problems with 'before-string in overlay

2007-04-12 Thread Eli Zaretskii
Date: Thu, 12 Apr 2007 08:00:37 +0200 From: Lennart Borgman (gmail) [EMAIL PROTECTED] CC: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] Eli Zaretskii wrote: Date: Wed, 11 Apr 2007 22:48:34 +0200 From: Lennart Borgman (gmail) [EMAIL PROTECTED] CC: Chong Yidong [EMAIL

Re: Why does etags ask me if I want to keep the old TAGS - I do not want to load a new

2007-04-11 Thread Eli Zaretskii
Date: Wed, 11 Apr 2007 07:53:27 +0200 From: Matzi Kratzi [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: emacs-pretest-bug@gnu.org If I have the *Message*-buffer in another window, I can now see this: k:/ERADIUM_kalle/LD_swmodules_005/TAGS and k:/ERADIUM_kalle/LD_SwModules_005/TAGS are the same file [2 times]

Re: Why does etags ask me if I want to keep the old TAGS - I do not want to load a new

2007-04-11 Thread Eli Zaretskii
Date: Wed, 11 Apr 2007 07:53:27 +0200 From: Matzi Kratzi [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: emacs-pretest-bug@gnu.org The problem appears to be the letter-case. I can repeat this by using etags from the pretest on the files in src in the pretest source. If I load process.c, run find-tag and change the

Re: Display problems with 'before-string in overlay

2007-04-11 Thread Eli Zaretskii
From: Chong Yidong [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Wed, 11 Apr 2007 13:46:37 -0400 Cc: emacs-pretest-bug@gnu.org Lennart Borgman (gmail) [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I want to put an overlay at the top of a buffer and display several lines of text there. I use an overlay of length 1 at point 1

Re: Display problems with 'before-string in overlay

2007-04-11 Thread Eli Zaretskii
Date: Wed, 11 Apr 2007 22:48:34 +0200 From: Lennart Borgman (gmail) [EMAIL PROTECTED] CC: Chong Yidong [EMAIL PROTECTED], emacs-pretest-bug@gnu.org, [EMAIL PROTECTED] FWIW, I wouldn't touch this so close to the release: if no one noticed this since July 2005, it's hardly a grave bug.

Re: Ugly W32 display bug - fontified letters chopped on right

2007-04-11 Thread Eli Zaretskii
Date: Wed, 11 Apr 2007 22:53:18 +0200 From: Lennart Borgman (gmail) [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: emacs-pretest-bug@gnu.org, Kim F. Storm [EMAIL PROTECTED] Maybe it would help users and save developers some time if the problems specific to common fonts where mentioned too? What problems are

Re: Why does etags ask me if I want to keep the old TAGS - I do not want to load a new

2007-04-10 Thread Eli Zaretskii
Date: Tue, 10 Apr 2007 08:07:02 +0200 From: Matzi Kratzi [EMAIL PROTECTED] I work on a software project with the source files in quite some directories. I create my TAGS table in k:/ERADIUM_kalle/LD_swmodules_005 and work in another. The first time I use M-., I am asked for the tags table

Re: Why does etags ask me if I want to keep the old TAGS - I do not want to load a new

2007-04-10 Thread Eli Zaretskii
Date: Tue, 10 Apr 2007 08:07:02 +0200 From: Matzi Kratzi [EMAIL PROTECTED] I work on a software project with the source files in quite some directories. I create my TAGS table in k:/ERADIUM_kalle/LD_swmodules_005 and work in another. The first time I use M-., I am asked for the tags table

Re: Ugly W32 display bug - fontified letters chopped on right

2007-04-09 Thread Eli Zaretskii
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Kim F. Storm) Date: Mon, 09 Apr 2007 00:45:09 +0200 If I put this in the file xx.htm: TD class=... TD class the rightmost pixels of the first D are lost as can be seen by the tiny screen-shot at the end of this message. The second D is shown normally. I

Re: Crash in gc_sweep (SIGH!)

2007-04-09 Thread Eli Zaretskii
From: Kim F. Storm [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Mon, 9 Apr 2007 01:32:01 +0200 (CEST) Following my last bug report on W32 display error, I noticed that the image didn't get through. So I tried various stuff to decode the base64 stuff in various ways like this: - copy it to a new file

Re: Ugly W32 display bug - fontified letters chopped on right

2007-04-09 Thread Eli Zaretskii
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Kim F. Storm) Date: Mon, 09 Apr 2007 01:46:26 +0200 [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Kim F. Storm) writes: I had to edit a simple html file on Windows XP, so I got the latest unpatched Emacs 22 pretest from Lennart's site (thank you). If I put this in the file xx.htm:

Re: Ugly W32 display bug - fontified letters chopped on right

2007-04-09 Thread Eli Zaretskii
From: Eric Hanchrow [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Sun, 08 Apr 2007 17:35:43 -0700 I'm clearly seeing it myself, for what that's worth, using Bitstream Vera Sans Mono at 12 pixels. Do you have ClearType turned on? If so, does the problem go away if you turn it off? Do you see the problem with

Re: C-u C-SPC: doc string and behavior if mark = point

2007-04-09 Thread Eli Zaretskii
From: Drew Adams [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Sun, 8 Apr 2007 10:43:55 -0700 1. Doc string for `set-mark-command': Thanks, I implemented some of your suggestions. The new doc string appears at the end of this message. Get rid of e.g. C-u C-@. I don't see any reason to get rid of this, as it's

Re: Ugly W32 display bug - fontified letters chopped on right

2007-04-09 Thread Eli Zaretskii
Cc: emacs-pretest-bug@gnu.org From: Eric Hanchrow [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Mon, 09 Apr 2007 00:24:24 -0700 Eli == Eli Zaretskii [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I'm clearly seeing it myself, for what that's worth, using Bitstream Vera Sans Mono at 12 pixels. Eli Do you have

Re: emacs.c (main): fix profiling instructions

2007-04-03 Thread Eli Zaretskii
Cc: emacs-pretest-bug@gnu.org From: Markus Triska [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Sun, 01 Apr 2007 01:10:45 +0200 Eli Zaretskii [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Why change the flags when running ./configure? Why not simply add LDFLAGS to the `make' command line? That could inadvertently override

Re: emacs.c (main): fix profiling instructions

2007-03-31 Thread Eli Zaretskii
Cc: emacs-pretest-bug@gnu.org From: Markus Triska [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Sun, 01 Apr 2007 01:10:45 +0200 Eli Zaretskii [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Why change the flags when running ./configure? Why not simply add LDFLAGS to the `make' command line? That could inadvertently override

Re: Mime decoding in rmail

2007-03-28 Thread Eli Zaretskii
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2007 07:54:27 -0400 I asked my admin if he could send you a sample mail mime encoded the same way I'd get one. He will send one with the subject Today's Dilbert. Thanks, I see the problem now: this message sends an inline GIF image, without using

Re: Mime decoding in rmail

2007-03-28 Thread Eli Zaretskii
Cc: emacs-pretest-bug@gnu.org From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2007 18:05:59 -0400 What would be best , IMO, is have rmail decode things and display them as the image or whatever it is right there in rmail. Maybe a prompt to ask if you want it decoded and displayed? Maybe

Re: Mime decoding in rmail

2007-03-27 Thread Eli Zaretskii
From: Tom Wurgler [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2007 14:48:26 -0400 (EDT) Cc: Someone sends me a mime encoded gif file as an email. I start emacs -Q then esc-x rmail. The mail I see is a decoded gif file, not the mime encoded file. In emacs -Q? I doubt that. I'm guessing that

Re: Mime decoding in rmail

2007-03-27 Thread Eli Zaretskii
Cc: emacs-pretest-bug@gnu.org From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2007 17:24:08 -0400 I thought -Q left off reading your .emacs file. But no matter, I renamed .emacs to hold.emacs and the mail still it comes up as a gif binary. -Q also refrains from reading the site-wide init

Re: Toolbar and info mode (and others)

2007-03-25 Thread Eli Zaretskii
Date: Sun, 25 Mar 2007 15:53:20 -0400 From: Greg Bognar [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: emacs-pretest-bug@gnu.org, [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] Modern word processors/text editors often have two or three toolbar lines with dozens of buttons. I hope Emacs will never go that way. And

Re: Italic font does not have same height as non-italic

2007-03-25 Thread Eli Zaretskii
Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2007 01:34:37 +0200 From: Lennart Borgman [EMAIL PROTECTED] It looks like the height of an italic font is different from a non-italic, at least on w32. I don't see any problem here. Emacs uses the fonts that are available to it, that's all.

Re: Bold font hides end of previous character

2007-03-25 Thread Eli Zaretskii
Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2007 01:39:54 +0200 From: Lennart Borgman [EMAIL PROTECTED] See the attached image. Completion is after o. (Which looks like c.) I cannot reproduce this on my machine, neither with the default font, nor with the one I set up in my .emacs (-outline-Courier

Re: Toolbar and info mode (and others)

2007-03-25 Thread Eli Zaretskii
Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2007 04:10:57 +0200 From: Lennart Borgman (gmail) [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: emacs-pretest-bug@gnu.org Toolbars are for mouse, menus for keyboard Maybe for you, but not for the vast majority of users (who click menus with a mouse).

Re: x-show-tip color choices

2007-03-24 Thread Eli Zaretskii
From: Nikolaj Schumacher [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2007 00:45:06 +0100 Cc: emacs-pretest-bug@gnu.org Unless you have a real purpose for using x-show-tip directly, I don't think this is worth changing. Fair enough, but in that case I'd suggest pointing that out in

Re: complete.el 1.53/1.54 (More partial completion)

2007-03-21 Thread Eli Zaretskii
From: Stefan Monnier [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2007 15:23:51 -0400 Cc: emacs-pretest-bug@gnu.org This part of revision 1.53, complete.el, was undone by revision 1.54, but the removal wasn't mentioned in the log. Was this intentional? It was most likely an oversight of Eli

Re: complete.el 1.53/1.54 (More partial completion)

2007-03-21 Thread Eli Zaretskii
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED], emacs-pretest-bug@gnu.org From: Stefan Monnier [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2007 17:55:14 -0400 What oversight? what next patch? Please provide some minimal details. Check the diff of 1.53 and and the diff of 1.54 and you'll understand. But since you

Re: CVS directories after make install

2007-03-09 Thread Eli Zaretskii
Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2007 22:55:31 +0100 From: Matzi Kratzi [EMAIL PROTECTED] After the installation has finished, I have a working emacs, but I also have a few not wanted catalogues and files in C:\download\emacs-cvs\070308\: .\data .\etc\.arch-inventory .\etc\.cvsignore .\etc\CVS

Re: mode-line face and window manager

2007-03-06 Thread Eli Zaretskii
From: Nick Roberts [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Tue, 6 Mar 2007 22:36:11 +1300 The value for mode-line face seems to be taken from the window manager or theme. How do you see this? I see the following in faces.el: (defface mode-line 'class color) (min-colors 88)) :box

Re: mode-line face and window manager

2007-03-06 Thread Eli Zaretskii
From: Nick Roberts [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Wed, 7 Mar 2007 09:51:47 +1300 Cc: emacs-pretest-bug@gnu.org Where's the coupling with the window manager or theme? That's my question really, presumably somewhere in the C code. If I change theme, the colour of the mode-line changes along

Re: mode-line face and window manager

2007-03-06 Thread Eli Zaretskii
From: Nick Roberts [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Wed, 7 Mar 2007 10:22:44 +1300 Cc: emacs-pretest-bug@gnu.org Previously it didn't matter that the colour of the mode-line was tied to X resources, but my point is that now there is mode-line-inactive face, it's important that Emacs doesn't do

Re: emacs-22.0.95 successful installs

2007-03-03 Thread Eli Zaretskii
From: James J Dempsey [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Fri, 02 Mar 2007 10:36:36 -0500 Cc: Do you want this kind of testing status sent to emacs-pretest-bug? Yes, please. Thanks. ___ emacs-pretest-bug mailing list emacs-pretest-bug@gnu.org

Re: Pretest?

2007-03-03 Thread Eli Zaretskii
From: Chong Yidong [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Thu, 01 Mar 2007 18:38:43 -0500 I have rolled a 22.0.95 tarball, which can be found at the usual location: ftp://alpha.gnu.org/gnu/emacs/pretest/emacs-22.0.95.tar.gz ftp://alpha.gnu.org/gnu/emacs/pretest/emacs-22.0.94-22.0.95.xdelta I tested

Re: info.el displays blank line in menus

2007-02-26 Thread Eli Zaretskii
From: Nick Roberts [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2007 23:50:25 +1300 info.el displays a menus blank line when ifnottex is used, e.g: * SavingSaving makes your changes permanent. * Reverting Reverting cancels all the changes not saved. @ifnottex *

Re: Emacs .gdbinit incompatible with latest GDB

2007-02-25 Thread Eli Zaretskii
From: Nick Roberts [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2007 10:10:43 +1300 Cc: emacs-pretest-bug@gnu.org 1) Why was this change made? Probably to make it easier to avoid incorrect conversions when extracting elements. We don't want to get negative numbers for byte

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