Testing 2.x with production 1.x code

2003-06-25 Thread Neil Gunton
Hi, I am finally having the time to get into trying out the 2.0b9 to see if I can transition my existing websites. However I am having a problem with the fact that there are so many little things that are different between 1.x and 2.x (different objects to call, for example the $req_rec object appa

Re: Testing 2.x with production 1.x code

2003-06-25 Thread Neil Gunton
t of date as new development is done. Just an idea, let me know if it's totally impractical... Thanks again -Neil Neil Gunton wrote: > > Hi, I am finally having the time to get into trying out the 2.0b9 to see > if I can transition my existing websites. However I am having a proble

Re: Testing 2.x with production 1.x code

2003-06-25 Thread Neil Gunton
t our > compatability mode settings to him for review, and list the others we > know about that we can't handle. > > Disclaimer: I don't have time to assist with this much yet. > > Ed > > On Wed, 25 Jun 2003, Neil Gunton wrote: > > > Here's an idea: There see

Re: Testing 2.x with production 1.x code

2003-06-28 Thread Neil Gunton
Gerald Richter wrote: > as long as you don't use any of the new features of Embperl 2, you should be > able to create code that works under 1.3 and 2.0 (I have done this in the > past, now I only using 2.0). This is very good to know, because now any problems I have can be looked at as simple bugs

Re: Testing 2.x with production 1.x code

2003-07-02 Thread Neil Gunton
Hi Gerald, that seems to have fixed this problem. There are others now, which I will email in a new thread. Thanks very much as always for your time! -Neil Gerald Richter wrote: > > > There seems to be some issue with this, but perhaps it is due to me not > > using things as they should be. The

Embperl::Object not using 'path'?

2003-07-02 Thread Neil Gunton
Hi again Gerald, Possible new bug for you in 2.0b9, relating to Embperl::Object. I have the following (just the relevant bits included here): base.epl: $global = shift; $global->{core} = Execute ({object => 'Core.epl'}); Core.epl: Execute ({isa => 'Utils.epl', path => '/www/lib/perl/Ap

Nested Bug in 2.0b9

2003-07-02 Thread Neil Gunton
Hi Gerald, still testing 2.0b9 on my crazyguyonabike codebase - good news, a few pages now seem to work, so progress being made! However, one of my pages caused my machine to lock up completely - turned out that the Apache process was taking up 100% of CPU and eventually exhausted all virtual memor

Re: Nested Bug in 2.0b9

2003-07-05 Thread Neil Gunton
n removing the 'print OUT' makes things work, but rather that simply removing the nested aspect of it makes it work. Hope this helps... > - Original Message - > From: "Neil Gunton" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "embperl" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Re: Testing 2.x with production 1.x code

2003-07-10 Thread Neil Gunton
Thanks Kee, this looks very interesting. However I think for now I will just test Embperl 2.0bx with my 1.x codebase as it is now, unchanged, with no extras - apart from the small changes that don't break the 1.x code (e.g. adding parentheses to [$ foreach $]). Gerald apparently has designed things

Re: Nested Bug in 2.0b9

2003-08-06 Thread Neil Gunton
Gerald Richter wrote: > > > > > Unfortunately it's not really possible to replace 'print OUT' with [+ +] > > in my code, because there are subroutines here which are recursive in > > nature and so cannot be done using [$ sub $] (at least in 1.3), > > Should be also possible in 1.3, also it's more

Re: Forking

2003-09-12 Thread Neil Gunton
"Cameron B. Prince" wrote: > > Hi all, > > I have an Embperl page that uses a custom module which has code that calls > an external perl script via fork. This script takes a considerable amount of > time to run and I need it to just run in the background. I've gotten it to > work but I'm noticing

What's going on with Embperl???

2003-09-16 Thread Neil Gunton
I am getting more than a little nervous about the future of Embperl. I've written to the list before about this, but I didn't get anything more than "it's ok, don't worry" from Gerald. But then, it was back to usual - relative lack of responsiveness on his part, no new bugfixes for the beta... I ap

Re: What's going on with Embperl???

2003-09-17 Thread Neil Gunton
Luiz Fernando wrote: > I think Gerald should setup a sourceforge account for Embperl and put > more people to help him, more on the traditional opensource format. > > We could try to fix small bugs and implement some features under his > supervision. > > If the problem is money we can help also,

Re: What's going on with Embperl???

2003-09-17 Thread Neil Gunton
Ruben I Safir wrote: > > I hate sourceforge Why? Ok, is there a better environment for coordinating distributed teams of open source developers? As I mentioned a while back, I used SourceForge on an internal project in a large bank in NYC. It was useful mostly for its bug tracking system, which

Re: 2.0 testing

2003-09-17 Thread Neil Gunton
Kaare Rasmussen wrote: > What kind of bugs ? See thread titled "Re: Nested Bug in 2.0b9" started on July 2nd, continued on August 10th (Gerald said, in summary, that no progress on the bug had been made). This is when I suggested use of SourceForge for bug tracking. Incidentally, I still think t

Re: What's going on with Embperl???

2003-09-17 Thread Neil Gunton
Ed Grimm wrote: > > The only issue I've had with the suggestions of offering Gerald > assistance is the suggestion of an implementation, Source Forge, rather > than of the idea, which is distributed development. I agree that Source > Forge would probably be the easiest to set up quickly; however,

Re: What's going on with Embperl???

2003-09-17 Thread Neil Gunton
Neil Gunton wrote: > > Ed Grimm wrote: > > > > The only issue I've had with the suggestions of offering Gerald > > assistance is the suggestion of an implementation, Source Forge, rather > > than of the idea, which is distributed development. I agree that Sou

Re: What's going on with Embperl???

2003-09-17 Thread Neil Gunton
Ruben I Safir wrote: > > > http://www.bugzilla.org > > > > Any opinions? > > Yes > > Nothing ever gets fixed through Bugzilla either. Mozilla still doesn't even > print correctly in windows. I think you're confusing how some people use the system with the system itself. You can write a great

Re: What's going on with Embperl???

2003-09-17 Thread Neil Gunton
Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS wrote: > After the first hit, and when EMBPERL has it's logging level lowered, > is was outstandingly fast, especially with large data grabs, and pages > which were repeated. OTOH, my HTTPD processes grow large...and I'm thrilled > to death about that. The key is modpe

Re: What's going on with Embperl???

2003-09-25 Thread Neil Gunton
Gerald Richter wrote: > first of all I want to tell you that I have not vanished away :-) > Second is that I will continue developing Embperl. I use it in all projects > we do, so it's still important for me myself. > The point why I am not doing much at the moment and why there are times when > it

Re: Nested Bug in 2.0b9

2004-01-24 Thread Neil Gunton
Gerald Richter wrote: > > H Neil, > > > following code seems to be a minimal case for making the bug manifest: > > > > [- $count = 0 -] > > > > [$ while $count < 10 $] > > > > [- print OUT $count; -] > > > > [- $count++ -] > > [$ endwhile $] > > > > > > Also you might belie

Re: Nested Bug in 2.0b9

2004-01-25 Thread Neil Gunton
Gerald Richter wrote: > > so I am testing with that. However I've > > immediately run into a problem with starting Apache. I'm running > > 1.3.29, mod_perl 1.29, compiled with gcc 3.3.2 (from source) and Red > > Hat 7.3 (fully patched). > > > > When I start apache, I get the following errors from s

Re: Nested Bug in 2.0b9

2004-01-25 Thread Neil Gunton
Gerald Richter wrote: > > Hi, > > > No, I don't have any ClearModuleList in httpd.conf... > > > > ok > > > Let me know if there's anything else I can do to help track it down... > > > > Could you please try things without preloading on startup and see if it > works or if you still get the segf

Re: Nested Bug in 2.0b9

2004-01-26 Thread Neil Gunton
Neil Gunton wrote: > More seriously, I am now encountering a problem with one of my pages, > where the apache process runs away and fills up all the computer memory > and swap space very quickly. The only way to recover is to shut down > apache. I am still trying to nail down why this

Re: Nested Bug in 2.0b9

2004-01-26 Thread Neil Gunton
Neil Gunton wrote: > More seriously, I am now encountering a problem with one of my pages, > where the apache process runs away and fills up all the computer memory > and swap space very quickly. The only way to recover is to shut down > apache. I am still trying to nail down why this

Print OUT in [$ sub $]

2004-01-27 Thread Neil Gunton
Hi Gerald, I found another case that doesn't work as expected in 2.0b10: [$ sub $] [- my ($self) = @_; print OUT "Hello world"; -] [$ endsub $] This is a simplified example, but it doesn't print anything. When the routine is redone as a standard Perl routine, then

Re: Tuning Embperl

2004-02-23 Thread Neil Gunton
Stefan Cars wrote: > Hi everyone and Gerald! > > Anyone that has any tips on performance tuning Embperl to make stuff go > faster? Besides loading modules and making sure that we have enough forked > processes so we don't have to start them later. If you are talking about just Embperl, then I wo

Problems with 1.3.6, Slackware 10, Perl 5.8.4

2004-08-09 Thread Neil Gunton
Hi Gerald, I am trying to install Embperl 1.3.6 on a new laptop running Slackware 10. This has Apache 1.3.31, mod_perl 1.29 and Perl 5.8.4. I am getting errors with make test, which I gather from the archives might be ok, but then I am also getting a problem when starting Apache. I am just wonderi

Re: Problems with 1.3.6, Slackware 10, Perl 5.8.4

2004-08-10 Thread Neil Gunton
Angus Lees wrote: > > Syntax error on line 968 of /usr/local/httpd_perl/conf/httpd.conf: > > Can't locate Embperl/Object.pm in @INC (@INC contains: /www/lib/perl > > /usr/lib/perl5/5.8.4/i486-linux /usr/lib/perl5/5.8.4 > > /usr/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.8.4/i486-linux /usr/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.8.4

Threaded perl messages

2005-07-13 Thread Neil Gunton
Hi all, I am currently using Embperl 1.3.6, with Apache 1.3.33 and mod_perl 1.29 on a new install of Debian Sarge. Previously this was running on Debian Woody without issues, but there appears to be a new threaded version of perl (5.8.4) which is causing messages to the error log every time a c

Embperl::Execute under 2.0

2005-07-16 Thread Neil Gunton
I am trying out Embperl 2.0 again. It appears (at first glance) to work with most of existing code, but it will take quite a lot more testing before I commit it to my production box. The big problem so far is the startup.pl file. I preload all the html and epl files to maximize shared memory. Thi

"Sites using Embperl" form is broken

2005-07-17 Thread Neil Gunton
I tried adding one of my websites to the "Sites using Embperl" list, using the form at http://perl.apache.org/embperl/db/add.-category_id-2-.epl. The other night it gave me a proxy error, and when I tried again today it gave me back a message saying: Add a new item to News The following entry h

Re: Embperl::Execute under 2.0

2005-07-18 Thread Neil Gunton
Neil Gunton wrote: I am trying out Embperl 2.0 again. It appears (at first glance) to work with most of existing code, but it will take quite a lot more testing before I commit it to my production box. The big problem so far is the startup.pl file. I preload all the html and epl files to

Re: Embperl::Execute under 2.0

2005-07-19 Thread Neil Gunton
Gerald Richter wrote: Is mod_perl staticly compiled into Apache or loaded as module? I think I am building it statically into Apache. I wrote a script to help automate the process: #!/bin/sh # First time: # 1. Unpack mod_security-1.x.x.tar.gz into /usr/src # 2. Rename dir as mod_security #

Re: Embperl::Execute under 2.0

2005-07-20 Thread Neil Gunton
Gerald Richter wrote: Looks like it is linked staticly. The easiest way to verify this, is to run httpd -l If mod_perl shows up it's staticly linked. Yes, it is listed there, so I guess it is static. I'm hoping that a successful move to Embperl 2.0 might make it go away. I don't expect s

Re: Embperl::Execute under 2.0

2005-07-25 Thread Neil Gunton
Gerald Richter wrote: This should work out of the box under mod_perl 2, for mod_perl 1 please add a Embperl::Init () ; before the first call to Execute in your startup script. The init call is done by Embperl automaticly, but under mod_perl 1 it's done a little later, so you have to do it manu

[$ hidden $] bug in 2.0?

2005-07-25 Thread Neil Gunton
I am having a problem with one of my forms under Embperl 2.0rc4, which works under 1.3.6. Here is a minimal case: [- $fdat{xxx} = 'xxx' -] [$ hidden $] This does not produce any hidden value for 'xxx'. It does under 1.3. Setup is Slackware 10.1, apache 1.3.33, mod_perl 1.29. Any ideas?

Some philosophical questions

2005-07-25 Thread Neil Gunton
This may be a little off the usual topic (bug reports, howto etc) but I am genuinely curious to know what other list members think about it. Back in 2000 or so, when I started using apache, mod_perl and Embperl, it was a really dynamic scene and quite exciting with all the possibilities for cool

Re: [$ hidden $] bug in 2.0?

2005-07-26 Thread Neil Gunton
Gerald Richter wrote: I am having a problem with one of my forms under Embperl 2.0rc4, which works under 1.3.6. Here is a minimal case: [- $fdat{xxx} = 'xxx' -] Add [- @ffld = keys %fdat -] [$ hidden $] This does not produce any hidden value for 'xxx'. It does under 1.3. Setup is

Re: Some philosophical questions

2005-07-26 Thread Neil Gunton
Lars Kelto wrote: I think that PHP is a lot easier to install and use for the average user/programmer. Maybe more importantly, it is easier to install PHP apps on an ISP's server. Embperl is easy to install, but mod_perl can be tricky and you have to be somewhat of a guru to understand it a

Re: [$ hidden $] bug in 2.0?

2005-07-26 Thread Neil Gunton
Gerald Richter wrote: Mmmh, the code the selects the fields are excatly the same in Embperl 1.3 and 2.0. Also the tests are the same. I don't see that anythings has changed nor was it intended to change it. When I do the same test with Embperl 1.3 and 2.0 both return nothing to me Nope, when I

Re: Some philosophical questions

2005-07-26 Thread Neil Gunton
Ed Grimm wrote: Incidentally, another stratigic issue that is looming over the Perl horizon causing some people to look elsewhere is Perl 6. While it is supposed to be a good thing, there's enough issues surrounding backwards compatibility (it'll be there, sometime. But my impression is, this i

Re: Some philosophical questions

2005-07-26 Thread Neil Gunton
Hall, Philippe wrote: I love EmbPerl -- I've been using it for 3 or 4 years now. I'd love to see it climb out of obscurity. I agree! Just to be clear (reading back over my emails) none of this is really directed at Gerald. I love Embperl too, and plan to continue using it heavily. You're ri

Re: [$ hidden $] bug in 2.0?

2005-07-26 Thread Neil Gunton
Gerald Richter wrote: Sorry to contradict you Gerald, but I'm looking right at the resulting page source - I can switch back and forth here and it *does* behave the way I'm telling you. I have no idea why you would be seeing something different... I tested from the command line with embpex

Re: [$ hidden $] bug in 2.0?

2005-07-27 Thread Neil Gunton
Gerald Richter wrote: Hi Neil, I'm attaching the Embperl tar and the source file. You should be able to duplicate what I am seeing using these... if not then maybe reality is becoming even more distorted here in America than I thought! ;-) Let me know if/what you see... I found the dif

Re: Some philosophical questions

2005-07-27 Thread Neil Gunton
Gerald Richter wrote: Since we don't have an O'Reilly book, why don't we make our own? The community could start a Wikki. The Wikki would cover EmbPerl documentation and application, specific installation instructions, FAQ, mod_perl and even perl itself (as they relate to EmbPerl). I f

Re: [$ hidden $] bug in 2.0?

2005-07-28 Thread Neil Gunton
Gerald Richter wrote: Hi Neil, I'm attaching the Embperl tar and the source file. You should be able to duplicate what I am seeing using these... if not then maybe reality is becoming even more distorted here in America than I thought! ;-) Let me know if/what you see... I found the dif

Re: Some philosophical questions

2005-08-01 Thread Neil Gunton
Gerald Richter wrote: I can't disagree with that. Gerald, can you remind us of what you need to release the final version? Mainly some documenation cleanup's and a few rarely happeing bugs that needs to be fixed. If you need any help with English documentation cleanup then let me know which

Re: Some philosophical questions

2005-08-01 Thread Neil Gunton
Gerald Richter wrote: If you need any help with English documentation cleanup then let me know which files and I'll have a crack at it. Thanks for your offer. The main thing I like to do, to check that the old stuff that is only valid for 1.3 (like optRawInput etc.) is replaced by the new ones.

[Fwd: "Sites using Embperl" form is broken]

2005-08-01 Thread Neil Gunton
nal Message Subject: "Sites using Embperl" form is broken Date: Sun, 17 Jul 2005 15:28:57 -0700 From: Neil Gunton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: embperl@perl.apache.org I tried adding one of my websites to the "Sites using Embperl" list, using the form at http://perl.

Re: Some philosophical questions

2005-08-02 Thread Neil Gunton
Gerald Richter wrote: I will investigate, as time allows, the different Wiki toolkits that are available out there and see if there is anything that looks like being a good fit here. I suggest www.kwiki.org, if anybody has any better idea let me know Ok, looks fine to me. It's a start, unl

Re: Some philosophical questions

2005-08-02 Thread Neil Gunton
Neil Gunton wrote: Incidentally, wouldn't it be nice to have a Wiki package written in Embperl, and then host the Embperl Wiki using this? Kinda self-referential. I don't really have a good handle on how complex a Wiki package would be. I feel like it's just a content manageme

Re: Some philosophical questions

2005-08-02 Thread Neil Gunton
Hall, Philippe wrote: My colleague, Nick Deyoe, and I spent some time late last week experimenting with MediaWiki (PHP app) for this purpose. We were hoping to offer hosting and support for the Wiki if we get it working to our satisfaction. Here's what we put together so far -- it's the default

Re: Some philosophical questions

2005-08-02 Thread Neil Gunton
Gerald Richter wrote: My idea was to write some glue code (Embperl::Kwiki or Kwiki::Embperl) that allows to embed Kwiki into an Embperl page, using all the advatages of Embperl::Object. Since one of the main examples for Embperl is the Embperl website, my idea was to integrate this Wiki in the n

Re: Embperl::Execute under 2.0

2005-08-03 Thread Neil Gunton
Gerald Richter wrote: Hi Gerald, I tried adding the Embperl::Init() to the startup script, after the 'use' and before the preload routine is called. Now it gives a segmentation fault: I have spent some more time debugging this and it is a problem with module initialisiation order under Ap

Re: Embperl::Execute under 2.0

2005-08-10 Thread Neil Gunton
Gerald Richter wrote: Basically when path is in there, it crashes, when path is not there, it works. Is there anything about this that gives a clue? The path must be an array ref and not a string e.g. path => [ '/www-dev/vhosts/www.crazyguyonabike.com/htdocs/journal/', '/www-dev/vhosts/www.

Re: Tag mismatch

2005-08-10 Thread Neil Gunton
Gerald Richter wrote: I had a minor issue with Embperl 2 thinking there were some mismatched and suchlike, whereas these were in fact just being generated in some conditional/looping code (and so the tags would obviously not match up if you look at the code in a linear fashion (as Embperl2 ap

$req_rec not set for preloaded pages

2005-08-15 Thread Neil Gunton
Hi Gerald, Congratulations on finally releasing 2.0! Ok, that's the good news, now for the bad news... (you knew this was coming, right?) I have noticed something strange: When I preload pages under Embperl 2, $req_rec appears to be undefined later when the pages are requested. It works ok wh

Re: $req_rec not set for preloaded pages

2005-08-16 Thread Neil Gunton
Gerald Richter wrote: Hi, I have noticed something strange: When I preload pages under Embperl 2, $req_rec appears to be undefined later when the pages are requested. It works ok when I do not preload. I think I may have made a mistake earlier when testing, mixing up Embperl 1 and 2 handler

Re: Embperl and worker MPM

2005-10-09 Thread Neil Gunton
Gerald Richter wrote: Geting Embperl with threads (and therefor the worker MPM) is planned for one of the next releases. The problem is, that it is a lot of work, which needs to be done in my free time, so I cannot exactly say when it will be finished. Some time ago Gary Shea [shea at gtsdesign

Problem using Embperl on Debian Lenny

2008-07-12 Thread Neil Gunton
Hi, I've been using Embperl 1.3 for years now on Apache 1.3, and now I'm finally trying to upgrade my websites to use the latest Embperl which is included with Debian Lenny (testing). So that means Apache 2.2, mod_perl 2, Embperl 2.2... I am just installing all this from the deb packages, not

What's with all the Japanese spam???

2008-07-13 Thread Neil Gunton
I was searching the archives, and struck by the amount of Japanese porn spam showing up there... e.g. http://www2.ecos.de/~mailarc/embperl/2008-05/ What gives? I thought only subscribers could send mail to the list - was all of this stuff actually sent out to subscribers? If not, why is it sh

Re: Problem using Embperl on Debian Lenny

2008-07-14 Thread Neil Gunton
the Debian packages of Embperl then I'll have to rethink. Any help would be *much* appreciated... Thanks! Neil Neil Gunton wrote: Hi, I've been using Embperl 1.3 for years now on Apache 1.3, and now I'm finally trying to upgrade my websites to use the latest Embperl which is

Re: Problem using Embperl on Debian Lenny

2008-07-14 Thread Neil Gunton
, any clues would be much appreciated. Thanks! Neil Neil Gunton wrote: Can anybody please lend any insights here (see below)? Is anybody actually using the stock Embperl2 that comes with Debian Lenny (testing), along with stock Apache2 and mod_perl2? Are there problems with it, or am I just doing

Compiling Embperl 2.3.0 with Debian Lenny source Apache 2.2

2008-07-14 Thread Neil Gunton
Further to my efforts to get Embperl working on Debian Lenny with stock Apache2.2, I am trying to compile the latest 2.3 Embperl from source. I gave it the debian source apache path, which it seemed happy with. Build seemed to work ok too. But make test gives an error: ... Testing offline mode

Re: Problem using Embperl on Debian Lenny

2008-07-14 Thread Neil Gunton
as Embperl died the slow death with developers? Neil Neil Gunton wrote: Ok, I tried building the Debian Embperl 2.2.0 that comes with Lenny from source. I am not experienced at this. After some poking around, I turned up this page on building packages: http://www.debian.org/doc/FAQ/ch-pkg_ba

Re: Problem using Embperl on Debian Lenny

2008-07-15 Thread Neil Gunton
EMBPERL_OBJECT_ADDPATH "/var/www/yoursite/webroot/share" EMBPERL_COOKIE_PATH / EMBPERL_COOKIE_EXPIRES +3M EMBPERL_MAIL_ERRORS_TO "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" # Other site-specific directives here # Block direct access to .epl files as all publically # accessible e

Some observations

2008-07-23 Thread Neil Gunton
Ok, so I just completed a major upgrade of my websites from Apache 1.3, mod_perl 1, Embperl 1.3 to Apache 2.2, mod_perl 2 and Embperl 2.3.0. It was not a simple or painless experience, to say the least. Why on earth didn't the Apache/mod_perl people provide a compatibility layer for their API.

Question re preloading embperl and apache shutdown

2008-07-23 Thread Neil Gunton
I am now using Apache2.2, mod_perl 2 and Embperl 2.3. I am also preloading my Embperl code via startup.pl, and finding that "apachectl stop" seems to call my preload routine even when shutting down apache, which makes it take an absurdly long time to cycle the server when I change code. This di

Re: Stop embperl from messing with my code

2008-07-24 Thread Neil Gunton
Jean-Christophe Boggio wrote: Hello, I have really strange behaviours in my generated pages and I suspect embperl to be "modifying" my html. I'd like to prevent this. The case is this (I use Embperl Object) : base.epl: [- Execute('upperband.epl'); -] upperband.epl: su

Re: Question re preloading embperl and apache shutdown

2008-07-24 Thread Neil Gunton
Andrew O'Brien wrote: Hi Neil, A start in apache is actually a start+restart IIRC. Could that be what you're seeing? I posted this a few days back but perhaps it was lost in the noise. I've got the following in my startup.pl: use Apache2::ServerUtil; # We want to do this only when the sever r

Re: Question re preloading embperl and apache shutdown

2008-07-24 Thread Neil Gunton
Andrew O'Brien wrote: Hi Neil, use Apache2::ServerUtil; # We want to do this only when the sever restarts. (The start process # includes a restart). The below variable has a value of 1 during # server start/stop and a value greater than one during the second # phase of server starting and any gra

Re: Some observations (correction)

2008-07-24 Thread Neil Gunton
Thompson, Jon wrote: Since I'm using CGI.pm (don't ask) and not mod_perl I actually set fdat up manually myself like this: [- %fdat = %input -] [- @ffld = keys %fdat -] Thanks for that! I have never used ffld, since fdat always seemed to do the trick - I could add things to fdat and they woul

Possible bug in Embperl 2.3

2008-07-24 Thread Neil Gunton
I am getting segmentation faults from Apache2.2, mod_perl 2, Embperl 2.3, when I have a [$ sub $] redefined for an Embperl::Object setup and then attempt to call the parent version of the sub. For example, I have [$ sub xxx $] in one of the base libs, and then I call $self->SUPER::xxx() from wi

Re: make test failure in Embperl 2.2.0 and 2.3.0 versions

2008-07-28 Thread Neil Gunton
Senthilkumar R wrote: I am getting the following error when run "make test". -- [-1]Missing right curly or square bracket at /tmp/Embperl-2.2.0/test/html/error.htm line 6

Roll call: What cool, high-traffic websites are using Embperl?

2008-08-02 Thread Neil Gunton
I've been using Embperl since 2000 to run www.crazyguyonabike.com. This started off as a single journal of my bicycle tour across America in 1998. I wrote it using Embperl, and developed it so other people could also put their journals up. Over the years I've added forums, classifieds, resource

Error line numbers do not seem to map correctly to source code

2008-08-06 Thread Neil Gunton
I am seeing errors in my apache logs which appear to be within Embperl code, and yet the error line numbers do not match up with what is in the code. For example, I might see Can't call method "prepare" on an undefined value at line 182 in Docs.epl But at line 182, that is in the middle of the

Re: Embperl Abandoned: Next Steps?

2008-09-05 Thread Neil Gunton
Williams, David G. (HQ-JF000)[INDUS] wrote: It now seems abundantly clear that Embperl development/discussion has become very dormant. Perhaps it has been abandoned. I don't wish to criticize Gerald for abandoning this project, rather, I would like to thank him for his fine work. I have been u

Re: Embperl Abandoned: Next Steps?

2008-09-14 Thread Neil Gunton
Michael Smith wrote: Hi Everyone, Well some good news. Gerald has not abandoned Embperl, and his projects are still dependent on it. He's been very busy but I understand he will be catching up on the mailing list next month and will be updating Embperl for the latest version of perl. It's obv

Re: Gerald: please update module to include patch for CGI.pm 3.38+

2009-09-18 Thread Neil Gunton
Chris Denman wrote: I made a utility for Twitter that went viral for a week - my server took 30,000 hits in a few hours. Of course, it crashed. I went away and tried everything to get it working under this sort of load. Thing is, the traffic slowed and I'll never know if my new setup with hold

Re: Gerald: please update module to include patch for CGI.pm 3.38+

2009-09-20 Thread Neil Gunton
Richter, Gerald wrote: The best would be, if we had a packages maintainers for the main distrubtions (like Debian, SUSE, RedHat etc.) which knows about their distribution (because I do not know all the specifica of all these distributions) Wasn't Angus Lees doing that for Debian? I think I t

Re: embperl releases

2010-02-07 Thread Neil Gunton
Gerald Richter - ECOS wrote: Hi, I would be very happy for any help and contribution to Embperl. Several people have sent patches in the past, but you are right I am the only "real" developer in the project. I have no idea how to change this. Help would be great for - Documentation, Tutorial

Multiple file upload

2011-09-28 Thread Neil Gunton
Hi Gerald and Embperl users, I've been interested in giving my users the option of uploading multiple files simultaneously, and the only/best option I was able to find up to now has been the swfupload Flash widget. However I now notice that people are starting to talk about doing this via HTML

Installing Embperl 2.4 on Debian Squeeze

2012-03-26 Thread Neil Gunton
I was not able to download from ftp://ftp.dev.ecos.de/pub/perl/embperl, always seem to get network timeouts. So I downloaded instead from CPAN, seems to be 2.4. Building new workstation around Debian Squeeze, AMD64. It compiles ok, but when I run make test, I get: root@dev:/usr/src/Embperl-2.

Re: Installing Embperl 2.4 on Debian Squeeze

2012-03-26 Thread Neil Gunton
rich...@ecos.de wrote: Hi Neil, use www.embperl.org/downloads, but on CPAN it's the same version. Which Perl Version you are using? Hi Gerald, I'm using what comes with Debian Squeeze (testing): root@dev:~# perl --version This is perl 5, version 14, subversion 2 (v5.14.2) built for x86_64-

Re: Installing Embperl 2.4 on Debian Squeeze

2012-03-26 Thread Neil Gunton
Dominic Hargreaves wrote: Hi, That isn't the perl from squeeze - it looks like you've upgraded to the perl from wheezy or sid (which probably meant a wholesale dist-upgrade to wheezy or sid). This may not be quite relevant to your question, but I thought it was worth pointing out in case you wan

Re: Installing Embperl 2.4 on Debian Squeeze / Embperl 2.5 development snapshot for Perl 5.14

2012-03-27 Thread Neil Gunton
rich...@ecos.de wrote: Hi, the Bug [1] is fixed in my current development version, this also fixes the other tests. The only thing that is still not working is the automatic reload of changed files, because Perl 5.14 prohibits the redefinition of sub's. I have put a snapshot of my current dev

Re: Installing Embperl 2.4 on Debian Squeeze / Embperl 2.5 development snapshot for Perl 5.14

2012-03-27 Thread Neil Gunton
rich...@ecos.de wrote: Sorry, my fault. These are debug messages I missed to remove. Go into the file epinit.c, search for fprintf with these messages and delete the lines. After that make test should run better. Gerald Hi Gerald, thanks for the fast reply - I edited epinit.c as you sugges

Re: Installing Embperl 2.4 on Debian Squeeze / Embperl 2.5 development snapshot for Perl 5.14

2012-03-27 Thread Neil Gunton
rich...@ecos.de wrote: make test TESTARGS="-i" Hi Gerald, this is better - but it still fails eventually due to not finding Apache2::ServerRec. See output below. Is this something I need to install separately? Or should it already have been installed as part of the installation of mod_perl?

Re: Installing Embperl 2.4 on Debian Squeeze / Embperl 2.5 development snapshot for Perl 5.14

2012-03-27 Thread Neil Gunton
rich...@ecos.de wrote: Apache2::ServeRec i spart of mod_perl 2 and should be already installed, if mod_perl is installed. Of course you have to figure out why Apache2::ServerRec is missing on your System I found it installed under /root/perl5/lib/perl5/x86_64-linux-gnu-thread-multi/Apache2/S

Re: Installing Embperl 2.4 on Debian Squeeze / Embperl 2.5 development snapshot for Perl 5.14

2012-03-28 Thread Neil Gunton
Neil Gunton wrote: rich...@ecos.de wrote: Apache2::ServeRec i spart of mod_perl 2 and should be already installed, if mod_perl is installed. Of course you have to figure out why Apache2::ServerRec is missing on your System I found it installed under /root/perl5/lib/perl5/x86_64-linux-gnu

Error reporting in Embperl 2.5.0_1

2012-05-19 Thread Neil Gunton
I just noticed that when there is an error in my code, I am not getting any useful information about where the error occurs. All I get is this: [21419]ERR: 24: Error in Perl code: Compilation error I know I used to get more specific line information about where the problem was. Is there someth

Re: Error reporting in Embperl 2.5.0_1

2012-05-31 Thread Neil Gunton
7;s happening)? Let me know... Thanks again, Neil rich...@ecos.de wrote: Hi Neil, in my tests I got normal error messages like before. Do you have a few lines of code, that shows the problem? Gerald -Original Message- From: Neil Gunton [mailto:n...@nilspace.com] Sent: Saturday, May

Re: Error reporting in Embperl 2.5.0_1

2012-05-31 Thread Neil Gunton
if I can reproduce it again. In any case, thanks for the suggestion - if I can get back to reliably reproducing the error, then I will give it a try. Neil Jose Fonseca wrote: Does adding [$ syntax EmbperlBlocks $] to that source file fix it? On Thu, May 31, 2012 at 8:06 PM, Neil Gunto

Re: Error reporting in Embperl 2.5.0_1

2012-06-05 Thread Neil Gunton
/2.5.0_1 mod_ssl/2.2.22 OpenSSL/1.0.1c mod_perl/2.0.5 Perl/v5.14.2 Thanks, Neil rich...@ecos.de wrote: Hi Neil, in my tests I got normal error messages like before. Do you have a few lines of code, that shows the problem? Gerald -Original Message- From: Neil Gunton [mailto:n

Re: Error reporting in Embperl 2.5.0_1

2012-06-28 Thread Neil Gunton
gh for some error which I have no idea where or even what it is. Thanks! Neil Neil Gunton wrote: Ok, here is a simple test case. File index.html contains just the following: [- use strict; $x = 1; -] Produces: Internal Server Error The server encountered an internal error or misconfigurat

Re: Error reporting in Embperl 2.5.0_1

2012-06-28 Thread Neil Gunton
st Embperl, perl 5.14.2 on Debian Wheezy (testing) etc - all versions as before. Any ideas? Thanks, Neil Neil Gunton wrote: Ok, here is a simple test case. File index.html contains just the following: [- use strict; $x = 1; -] Produces: Internal Server Error The server encountered an interna

Re: Error reporting in Embperl 2.5.0_1

2012-06-28 Thread Neil Gunton
Another update: I tried downgrading Embperl to 2.4 just to see if it would be any different, but same result - only message is 'Compilation error'. So, something specific about the way Embperl interacts with Perl that changed with 5.14, presumably... Neil Gunton wrote: Actually, I

Re: Status of Embperl?

2012-09-02 Thread Neil Gunton
Hi Benni, I am still using Embperl in my ongoing project, which is a bicycle touring journals website with forums, classifieds etc. Actually I think it's the biggest bicycle touring website out there. I have over 7,000 journals by people from all over the world, and we recently passed a milli

Re: Status of Embperl?

2012-09-07 Thread Neil Gunton
rich...@ecos.de wrote: I think that’s the point. Embperl is missing an active community. Nearly all of the work is done by myself and (as for most of us) my time is limited. Also Embperl is still alive and I will keep to maintain it, there could be much more going on if the work would be shared

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