Re: RF Exposure

1998-03-18 Thread Kathy (Kate) M. MacLean
Date: Wed, 18 Mar 98 12:25:25 -0800 From: ed.pr...@cubic.com Subject: Re: RF Exposure To:Kathy (Kate) M. MacLean k.macl...@aprel.com, emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org, m...@global.california.com, t...@world.std.com Cc:

Re: RF Exposure

1998-03-18 Thread ed . price
--- On Wed, 18 Mar 1998 13:00:51 -500 Kathy (Kate) M. MacLean k.macl...@aprel.com wrote: Robert - Saline only has been proposed (is not common) as a simulation for body tissue (muscle), for which the SAR exposure limit is 4 W/kg. For brain and organs, the limits are more strict, at

nyce

1998-03-18 Thread WOODS, RICHARD
I saw a HP personal computer box with a symbol made of arrows in a square with the letters nyce adjacent. What does this symbol mean?

RE: EMI gaskets

1998-03-18 Thread Ing. Gert Gremmen
hello Brian, As far as your concerns to safety, you are right. In service areas (EN 60950) no concern exists for mechanical safety. Electrically there are some restrictions, that can be overcome using interlocks or covers. Your conclusions about the effectiveness of BeCU finger stocks is

RE: Islands -- Vcc, Ground

1998-03-18 Thread Ing. Gert Gremmen
hello Don , In my opinion the only reason for separating IO ground from Digital ground is the ease of avoiding current through it. If a RF current flows through a conducting IO ground plane some voltage drop will occur. The voltage drop will actually give rise to CM radiation on the

RE: FW: EMI gaskets

1998-03-18 Thread Grant, Tania
In addition to bloody fingertips, you might want to consider the possibility of these broken off finger stock landing on circuits and shorting something, that might, in turn, cause a hazard. Contemplating the variety of abnormal test requirements for such a

Re: FW: EMI gaskets

1998-03-18 Thread ron_pickard
Brian, You have cited the only reference that might construe concern of these fingers, however, I do not know what you mean by if correctly designed-in. You also did not elaborate on the performance difference between the 2 gasket materials. Please

Re: RF Exposure

1998-03-18 Thread ed . price
--- On Wed, 18 Mar 98 08:29:11 -0700 ron_pick...@hypercom.com wrote: Ed, Why don't you try your local department store. They have get them from somewhere. On the other hand, anyone know how to contact the Crash Test Dummy University for recent

Re: RF Exposure

1998-03-18 Thread Kathy (Kate) M. MacLean
Robert - Saline only has been proposed (is not common) as a simulation for body tissue (muscle), for which the SAR exposure limit is 4 W/kg. For brain and organs, the limits are more strict, at 1.6 W/kg. The exact content of the simulation liquid will determine its permittivity and

Re: RF Exposure

1998-03-18 Thread Kathy (Kate) M. MacLean
Date: Tue, 17 Mar 98 11:53:56 -0800 From: ed.pr...@cubic.com Subject: RF Exposure To:emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org Reply-to: ed.pr...@cubic.com Looking for a supplier of mannequins (head, upper torso, whole body?) to simulate and measure the

Re: Islands -- Vcc, Ground

1998-03-18 Thread Doug McKean
The term island means seperate from. There are certainly some cases where this is necessary. As a general rule, no one rule, IMO, can be stated for all cases. Isolating I/O ground from processor ground may not mean the complete disconnection of the two. IOW, it doesn't have to be done with

FW: EMI gaskets

1998-03-18 Thread feej
- Subject: EMI gaskets I am interested in hearing the experiences of anybody out there who has had a need for using EMI gaskets, in particular between metal faceplates of circuit packs in a Telecomms Sub-rack. We have evaluated BeCu finger stock and foam covered with a metallised fabric

EU electrical codes

1998-03-18 Thread WOODS, RICHARD
Can someone point me to a consultant that understands the application of the the EU's electrical codes on the installation of electrical cables for business equipment in a commercial environment? Is anyone familar with a book (in English) on the same subject? Richard Woods Sensormatic

RE: CBEMA Curve and IEEE 446 Orange Book

1998-03-18 Thread Rose, Manning I
Hello from Dayton the source of Aviation the Wright Bros. Computer and Business Equipment Manufacturers Association is what CBEMA stands for in historic literature. This name has been changed to Information Technology Industry Council. ITIC Technical Committee 3, of which Rich Nute is a

Recognized Plastics Directory

1998-03-18 Thread Mel Pedersen
Hello All: Is there any test lab or authority other than UL that publishes a Plastics Recognized Component Directory? I am interested in finding ratings on materials based on IEC standards rather than UL standards. Thanks, Mel PedersenMidcom, Inc. Homologations

Re: FW: EMI gaskets

1998-03-18 Thread ed . price
--- On Wed, 18 Mar 98 12:29:03 f...@netc.ie wrote: Subject: EMI gaskets I am interested in hearing the experiences of anybody out there who has had a need for using EMI gaskets, in particular between metal faceplates of circuit packs in a Telecomms Sub-rack. We have evaluated BeCu

Re: RF Exposure

1998-03-18 Thread ron_pickard
Ed, Why don't you try your local department store. They have get them from somewhere. On the other hand, anyone know how to contact the Crash Test Dummy University for recent graduates? :- Best regards, Ron Pickard

Re: Islands -- Vcc, Ground

1998-03-18 Thread Cortland Richmond
Don, You'll open a can of worms with this one. The worst problems I've seen with I/O were when the ground was isolated. Why? Because the bypass capacitor return path was also isolated. I actually had a (manufacturer name here) computer board where the last two or three pins on one end of a

Islands -- Vcc, Ground

1998-03-18 Thread UMBDENSTOCK, DON
While reviewing the EMI mitigation techniques of our engineers, a few of us have been debating the use of ground islands on a multilayer board. The designs have one layer for Vcc, one for ground and 2 signal layers. The Vcc layer is isolated into various islands. The debate involves the

RE: EN55013 Question.

1998-03-18 Thread Ing. Gert Gremmen
Hello Kaan If you are working for ce-marking and you are in professional audio equipment, do not forget to check on EN 55103 parts 1 and 2 . see the list of harmonised standards as for today on http://www.cetest.nl/emc-harm.htm Regards, Gert Gremmen == CE-test, qualified testing,

Re: RF Exposure

1998-03-18 Thread macy
As a first pass, try balloons with mild saline solution. The skin effect at those frequencies is shallow so bags o' water are close approximations. - Robert - On Tue, 17 Mar 1998 ed.pr...@cubic.com wrote: Looking for a supplier of mannequins (head,

Just a Reminder for the Santa Clara PSTC

1998-03-18 Thread Kamran Mohajer
Santa Clara Product Safety Technical Committee (PSTC), March 24 April 28, 1998 Meeting Notices Please mark you calendar and join us for the following meetings: Joint Meeting of the Santa Clara PSTC and Bay Area Chapter of the System Safety Society