Import requirements

1999-03-05 Thread Allan, James
Can anyone on this board help me out with the requirements for import of ITE into Saudi Arabia? Do they have specific national requirements? Are they accepting of a DOC as is the EC? Perhaps UL marks are enough? What about EMC? What I am looking for is information that will allow me to clear cus

Re: Seeking PCs that Pass CISPR

1999-03-05 Thread Lfresearch
In a message dated 3/5/99 3:10:49 PM Central Standard Time, b...@namg.us.anritsu.com writes: << Chaz made a very good point. The reality unfortunately is that some PCs on the market don't meet the standards although they have FCC sticks or CE markings. Do we need some more law enforcement?

Invitation from ECMA/EACEM - Safety of Electronic Equipment Stand

1999-03-05 Thread Rich Nute
As an inactive member of ECMA TC 12, and a TC 12 contributor for the first year of this work, I am fowarding a message from Bob Griffin, Compaq, regarding a new product safety standard for electronic equipment. Unfortunately, I am unable to include the files Bob describes. (Apparently, the lis

RE: Seeking PCs that Pass CISPR

1999-03-05 Thread bma
Chaz made a very good point. The reality unfortunately is that some PCs on the market don't meet the standards although they have FCC sticks or CE markings. Do we need some more law enforcement? Barry Ma - Original Text From: "Grasso, Charles (Chaz)" , on 3/5/99 11:27 AM: I am con

Seeking PCs that Pass CISPR

1999-03-05 Thread rbusche
Just for the record, I have been very pleased with the HP Kayak machine. The cover was very easy to remove by just flipping two levers, and even after numerous removals it remained reliable. The gasketing was very good both around the cover and on the I/O panel. If degradation of the gasket were t

Re[2]: Seeking PCs that Pass CISPR

1999-03-05 Thread ron_pickard
Derek, I'm sure that Mr. Grasso meant that in jest. Anyway, IMHO, if any EMC engineer put their faith in the plug-n-play scenario, he or she would be candidates for management. :-) Best regards, Ron Pickard ron_pick...@hypercom.com __ Reply Separator _

RE: Seeking PCs that Pass CISPR

1999-03-05 Thread bma
Chaz made a good point. The reality is that some PCs on the market don't meet the standards although they have FCC sticks or CE markings. - Original Text From: "Grasso, Charles (Chaz)" , on 3/5/99 11:27 AM: To: Cc: I am confused. What's the problem? If we (the EMC Community) have f

Re: Field probes

1999-03-05 Thread ed . price
John: That cutting edge technology will break your heart every time. I use IFI field sensors, which also use a fiberoptic link back to an indicator or controller. However, I don't think this technology has changed in over 20 years! The fiber is a hefty 1/10" diameter, and takes lots of abuse. T

RE: Seeking PCs that Pass CISPR

1999-03-05 Thread KevinH
Chaz, You are such a funny guy; everyone is a comedian. But seriously folks... We have been fighting this battle for a long time and I do not believe it was any better before the DoC process adopted by the FCC than it is now. The major PC manufacturers are doing the same thing today as they did t

RE: Seeking PCs that Pass CISPR

1999-03-05 Thread bma
Yes, I have the same experience and good impression of EMC quality with Gateway 2000 PC. To my knowledge, an EMC lab, RTL (http://www.rheintech.com) does EMC service for Gateway. Barry Ma Antitsu Company Morgan Hill, CA 95037 - Original Text From: "Flinders, Randall" , on 3/4/99 12:

RE: Seeking PCs that Pass CISPR

1999-03-05 Thread mkelson
About 30 years ago, I read a book entitled "The True Believer" by Eric Hoffer, I think. In it he stated that revolutionaries often bring beneficial changes to mankind, but seldom reap the benefits themselves. Over the years I have found this to be true. However, I would certainly encourage anyone

RE: Seeking PCs that Pass CISPR

1999-03-05 Thread Grasso, Charles (Chaz)
Unfortunately - its now the law (of this land) anyway!! -Original Message- From: lfresea...@aol.com [mailto:lfresea...@aol.com] Sent: Friday, March 05, 1999 10:17 AM To: Grasso, Charles (Chaz); nbels...@nortelnetworks.com; eric.lif...@natinst.com; emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org Subject: Re: S

Re: Seeking PCs that Pass CISPR

1999-03-05 Thread Lfresearch
In a message dated 3/5/99 11:01:58 AM Central Standard Time, gra...@louisville.stortek.com writes: << I am confused. What's the problem? If we (the EMC Community) have faith in Plug & Play (as the new FCC process is dubbed) then you should be able to buy ANY FCC logoed PC and pass. >> I can'

Field probes

1999-03-05 Thread John Harrington
Dear All We have a Holaday isotropic, broad band field sensing system comprising of a HI-4400 monitor and a HI-4421 probe. These two units are connected together by an optical fibre and this is where our problem lies. The system is old and the fibre optic cable has broken. We have been info

RE: Seeking PCs that Pass CISPR

1999-03-05 Thread Grasso, Charles (Chaz)
I am confused. What's the problem? If we (the EMC Community) have faith in Plug & Play (as the new FCC process is dubbed) then you should be able to buy ANY FCC logoed PC and pass. -Original Message- From: Nathan Belsher [mailto:nbels...@nortelnetworks.com] Sent: Friday, March 05, 1999 6:4

RE: New EMC requirements proposed for IEC60335

1999-03-05 Thread Cortland Richmond
Ravinder, Indeed, the IBM ESD furniture-type ESD simulator should be long remembered! The purpose of this kind of test is equipment a customer will WANT to buy. If we are wise, we go _beyond_ what the law requires, so we will gain the trust of our customers. Often, management views tests such as

RE: C-Tick importer variation

1999-03-05 Thread kohscp
Thanks guys for your precious advice. I now have some direction on how to approach this issue and what options can I go for. It would also depends on my company business direction. In my opinion, I would think that having the product with the original N555 is still the best option. (Of course prov

RE: PCB coating questions

1999-03-05 Thread Lacey,Scott
Arjen, For insulation over PCB traces, some types of dry film solder mask might be suitable. These films are manufactured to a consistent thickness, and then laminated to the PCB. You need to check with your board vendor as to types and approval ratings. These films are very tough, just ask anyone

RE: Seeking PCs that Pass CISPR

1999-03-05 Thread Nathan Belsher
Eric, I understand your dilemma. Having been on both sides of the fence of this issue I must say it can be a sticky issue. At the very least it can be very time consuming testing various machines to get a quiet one. Here is my current experience and my recommendation from past experience. I ha

RE: PCB coating questions

1999-03-05 Thread Daniel Sicard
Arjen, Board with only solder mask is considered as non coated. Conformal coating is the type accepted to be allowed to reduce the spacing between trace. However be aware that your safety agency will have to test that coating. The test is described in UL1950 (I do not remember the section and d

Digital Set-top Box is not Broadcast receivers?

1999-03-05 Thread Tommy
Hellow Group. I confuse the standard of Digital Set-Top Box LUCCE-2000 whether it is ITE. It is called 'Set-Top Box' usually.But It has differnt things compare with Set-Top Box. It has two major product family standards. First,About ITE function - Ethernet Port ; High speed Internet output to

RE: CE marking - self-certification and the long arm of the law

1999-03-05 Thread Gary McInturff
Peter, Thanks for your ideas. I might add that I like to have one of the people above my level and within the same company to sign it while pointing out that there are penalties for signing falsely these documents. It helps to calm down those who also ask questions like "what are the chance

Philippines & India

1999-03-05 Thread Serge F Bousquet
Would anyone be so kind as to indicate which ITE requirements along with approval programs, if any, cover EMC and Safety for the following countries; India Philippines Your kind assistance would be most appreciated. Serge F R Bousquet 124 Changklan R

FW: HIgh Field Testing

1999-03-05 Thread CKC Laboratories, Inc.
CKC Laboratories can do large portions of HIRF testing, and would be happy to help. Please Contact: Pat Andre' Laboratory Manager / EMC Consultant CKC Laboratories Redmond, Wa. pan...@ckc.com Sincerely, Steve Behm Laboratory Super