RE: CE enforcement (3)

1999-07-20 Thread Knighten, Jim L
Moshe, Here is a third and final thread message from 1 ½ years ago. Jim Knighten NCR rehel...@mmm.com mailto:rehel...@mmm.com wrote: I have been trying to educate our management on EMC. I am interested in the source(s) of your statement: Some EU

RE: CE enforcement (again)

1999-07-20 Thread Knighten, Jim L
Moshe, Here is another thread from 1 ½ years ago. Jim Knighten NCR -- Dear Richard The Self-Declaration Route to Conformity under the EU's EMC Directive requires the manufacturer to create and sign a Declaration of Conformity which

RE: CE enforcement

1999-07-20 Thread Knighten, Jim L
Moshe, I forward a message from a thread a year and a half ago. Jim Knighten NCR Corp. - Jim, See below. You should also check www.rcic.com http://www.rcic.com , the archive for this group. for more of

IEC950 vs. EN 60950

1999-07-20 Thread Peter E. Perkins
Daniel PSNet, IEC 950 - now IEC 60950 - is an international standard, meaning that all countries participating in the development of the standard bring their codes and practices to the table and some subset of the same is included in the final standard. EN 60950 is the

Re: CE enforcement

1999-07-20 Thread Peter Merguerian
Moshe, I heard that an engineering manager is the one likely to go to jail! Might be some time for us to change titles! Peter Hello everyone, I need some horror stories on enforcement in Europe (to help convince some managers we really have to comply). Anything new in this area?

Joe Wujak

1999-07-20 Thread Rich Nute
Posted on behalf of Bobbie Cronquist, John Wright, and Julie Gaevert. Some sad news about Joe Wujak, whom many of you may know and remember. Bobbie Cronquist - Forwarded message -- I have the very unfortunate task of telling everyone that Joe Wujek and

RE: CISPR 22 / EN 55022

1999-07-20 Thread John Juhasz
Regarding conducted limits in Bellcore 1089 (part of the NEBS required for co-located telco equipment) they start at 10 kHz. John A. Juhasz Product Qualification Compliance Engr. Fiber Options, Inc. 80 Orville Dr. Suite 102 Bohemia, NY 11716 USA Tel: 516-567-8320 ext. 324 Fax: 516-567-8322

HAR cables

1999-07-20 Thread Alexandru Guidea
Dear safety experts, I thought that HAR designated cable used for 230V power cords will be in accordance with other safety standards (EN60950 electric strength for reinforced or double insulation). Cordage carrying the same code name (H05VV-F) is rated for the same working voltage (300/500V) but

Units of Humor

1999-07-20 Thread ed . price
Hi Listmembers: The silly season sweeps through Finland, and my friend Constance, sends me some new standards info. USEFUL METRIC CONVERSIONS 1 million microphones = 1 megaphone 2000 mockingbirds = two kilomockingbirds 10 cards = 1 decacards 1/2 lavatory = 1 demijohn 1

Re: Korea EMS requirement

1999-07-20 Thread Ryan Kim
HI! There is no change for EMS enforcement date (Jan. 2000) in Korea yet. Applicant for EMI approval could be local company, however, Canada located company could be applicant too since Korea and Canada made MRA. And, also, EMI label has to be affixed onto the product as you said. All ITE

Re: US NEC and Canadian CEC

1999-07-20 Thread Robert Johnson
If it were that simple, so would be the codes. You asked a lot of questions without reducing the scope. Answers depend on the application. For example ampacity depends on temperature which in turn depends on environment (ambient, buried, aerial, in conduit, in concrete, or other dissipation

Re: CISPR 22 / EN 55022

1999-07-20 Thread Tom Cokenias
At 7:49 AM +0200 7/20/99, fven...@alcatel.altech.co.za wrote: My question relates to the limit lines in CISPR 22/EN 55022. Would you say that it is valid to apply the limits in the standard to a conducted emission test on a dc line. EN55022 line conducted testing is based on the interference

RE: EMC Test Labs - Austin

1999-07-20 Thread Nathan Belsher
Doug, Here are two execellent labs that can do the European tests for you: Professional Testing Contact: Jeff Lenk or David Ball 1303 W. Industrial Blvd. Round Rock, Tx. 78681 (Austin) 512-244-3371 or Southwest Research Contact: David A. Smith or Jim Polonis 6220 Culebra Rd. San Antonio,

RE: Product Safety Semantics

1999-07-20 Thread Gary McInturff
Other than for potential weasling (yes a very imprecise American term) their should be no confusion. Here are the definitions from Merriam Webster's Thesaurus, a reasonably astute source. Gary P.S. There are two other definitions of must be they didn't shed any light on the meanings being

Japanese requirements

1999-07-20 Thread Paul Smith
Hello All, I'm curently looking into requiremetns for Japan (both EMC Safety). I guess it's VCCI for the EMC and IEC specs. for safety (presuming Japan are part of the CB scheme?). The product in question will be a dimmer for use in theatre/TV studios (large rack type 70+ ways, not the small

Korea EMS requirement

1999-07-20 Thread kohscp
Hi group, Current applicable requirement is EMI only. Testing must be done by a recognise test labs and applicant to RRL for EMI approval must be a local company. Upon approval, a Korea EMI label with EMI( A or B) indicated, has to be affixed onto the product. According to my backdated

10 N force Test on Internal Components Prior to Overvoltage Tests

1999-07-20 Thread georgea
Peter, Both IEC 60950 and UL 1950 include section 6 which details additional requirements for telecom equipment. The earlier parts of these standards also apply, including the 10N force tests. If the 10N force test makes sense for typical working voltages of 120V or 230V, it certainly makes

RE: 10 N force Test on Internal Components Prior to Overvoltage Tests

1999-07-20 Thread Jody Leber
If the test is failing due to reduced spacings would that not already be considered non compliant by Clause 2.9? If this is not the case, applying the force prior to the overvoltage test may be considered a double fault condition. Best Regards, Jody Leber jle...@ustech-lab.com

RE: Product Safety Semantics

1999-07-20 Thread Scott Douglas
While that may or may not be true, you will find the use of shall to be the predominant term as compared to must when it comes to US law. As a former local government official responsible for writing local ordinances and for implementing or enforcing state law, I found the term shall to be

Re: French Customs demand EC Declaration!

1999-07-20 Thread roger . viles
Thank you to all who commented on my French Customs problem. Clearly the expedient solution is to supply a copy of the Declaration of Conformity with each shipment to France, and we will do this. I am also asking the authorities how the French are able to do this! In answer to one question, the

CISPR 22 / EN 55022

1999-07-20 Thread fventer
Hi All Due to local demand for the test, we have started to conduct conducted emission tests on dc supply lines to the equipment. The reason why it is demanded is that in a telecoms centre one does not have the equipment connected to a dc battery. It is most of the time connected in parallel

RE: Product Safety Semantics

1999-07-20 Thread Lou Gnecco
Vitaly, Actually it is the other way around. As a former bureaucrat, must is definitely clearer. In the US government, when something is mandatory, the term is WILL as in: the distance will be at least three meters etc. (SEE MIL STD 461) One of the reasons that that the

Re: 10 N force Test on Internal Components Prior to Overvoltage Tests

1999-07-20 Thread Rich Nute
Hi Peter: There are two schools of thought: 1) Clearance is an independent, stand-alone criterion. 2) Clearance determines electric strength of air and is an alternate means for determining the electric strength of air. If you are in the first school, then there is no reason