Re: 10Kv Surge unit to EN60065 standards

1999-11-18 Thread Ken Javor
EMC Master from Netherlands. Repped in US by Richard Janiec on Long Island. -- From: Aschenberg, Mat matt.aschenb...@echostar.com To: emc-p...@ieee.org Subject: 10Kv Surge unit to EN60065 standards Date: Thu, Nov 18, 1999, 10:53 AM Hi all, I am looking for a 10KV surge unit. I

Re: Floating Circuits - Protection Against Electric Shock

1999-11-18 Thread Robert Macy
Is this article in *.pdf format for any to pick up? - Robert - -Original Message- From: John Juhasz jjuh...@fiberoptions.com To: emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org; 'ri...@ieee.org' ri...@ieee.org Date: Thursday, November 18, 1999 12:09 PM

Floating Circuits - Protection Against Electric Shock

1999-11-18 Thread John Juhasz
Just received the latest issue (Nov)of 'Conformity' newsletter from Curtis-Straus. I see that one of our regulars (board-master?) on this board, Rich Nute, had his article, 'Floating Circuits-Protection Against Electric Shock' published in the newsletter. Nice article Rich! Are those your

Auatralian Communications Authority (ACA) C-Tick Question

1999-11-18 Thread Sandy Mazzola
To all, Does a power supply for use in Australia have to be individually C-Tick marked.? If it were connected to another product that was C-Tick marked and sold as part of that system (With a requisite C-Tick folder) would the power supply still have to be individually C-tick

RE: POWER CORDS FOR SOUTH AMERICA.

1999-11-18 Thread JBaum
George- The South American countries use the IEC standards as the basis for compliance, so you would want to use the IEC wire colors if you are going to meet the requirements there. Regards, Jeff -Original Message- From: George Waters [mailto:gwat...@digiceiver.com] Sent: Wednesday,

10Kv Surge unit to EN60065 standards

1999-11-18 Thread Aschenberg, Mat
Hi all, I am looking for a 10KV surge unit. I understand that Keytek has one, but I think that it is overpriced. Does anyone know of a manufacturer that makes these devices? It is a European standard, are there European companies making these? Thanks, Mat Aschenberg - This message is

FW: Printed Wiring Board Design for Safety Compliance

1999-11-18 Thread Price, Ed
Posted for: wolfgang_josenh...@3com.com -Original Message- From: wolfgang_josenh...@3com.com [SMTP:wolfgang_josenh...@3com.com] Sent: Thursday, November 18, 1999 7:56 AM To: Rains,Mike Cc: 'emc-p...@ieee.org' Subject: Re: Printed Wiring Board Design for

RE: RE: internet information

1999-11-18 Thread ron_wellman
Laura, The gauge you listed is 0.75 sq-mm which is suitable up to 6 amperes according to IEC 60335-1. Also, check EN 60799 for more information on cord sets. BTW. Who is your cord set supplier? Regards, +=+ |Ronald R. Wellman

USB 2.0 Filtering

1999-11-18 Thread Chuck Jackson
Hi all. I have recently started looking into the filtering requirements for USB 2.0. I had originally thought of using common mode chokes at the connector, then I found out that the EOP (End of Packet) was a common mode signal. Bummer. Has anyone explored the filtering/compliance aspects of

RE: Regulatory safety Requirements for the US

1999-11-18 Thread WOODS
There are two sets of regulations: one for domestic equipment and one for work place equipment. Domestic: There are no federal laws except that the product must be safe. Some states (e.g. Maryland), counties (e.g., Orange, CA) and cities (e.g., San Francisco) have laws that require products to

RE: impact /probes

1999-11-18 Thread GOEDDERZ
There is some drag established in the tube, so drill several holes along the length, to let the air our. One of the NRTLs questioned us when using the tube without the holes, and then suggested putting them in. You can also make the tube slightly longer, and then drill a hole through both sides

RE: Shielded Enclosure Fire Hazard - Wrong Scott

1999-11-18 Thread Lacey,Scott
Egon (and fellow list members), I think you meant to reply to Scott Douglas. Lately, I have received several emails which were replies to him. Since most of them were probably initiated by clicking on the Reply button, I suspect some internet glitch is at fault. Scott's company is located about

Regulatory safety Requirements for the US

1999-11-18 Thread duncan . hobbs
Group, Forgive me if this subject has been covered before but I am finding it very hard to determine the EXACT regulatory requirements for the states. As far as I understand it is the responsibility of the installer or business using electrical equipment to ensure that it satisfies the

RE: Measuring Capacitance in HV circuits

1999-11-18 Thread WOODS
Replace the load with a resistor, turn off the power, record the decay on a storage scope and compute the RC time constant. Richard Woods -- From: Brian Kunde at LECO [SMTP:bkundew...@qtm.net] Sent: Wednesday, November 17, 1999 4:00 PM To: IEEE Group

IEC 60079-11:1999

1999-11-18 Thread DVVENTL Lizette de Vries-Vente
Hi Members In the latest edition of IEC 79-11 (Intrinsic safety) the gas mixtures were changed from the 1991 edition to use only hydrogen and air or Oxygen in the mixture. Has anybody started to use this method and do you also experience a more violent explosion during the calibration of the

RE: Printed Wiring Board Design for Safety Compliance

1999-11-18 Thread Geoff Lister
Mike, We have a TNV3 ISDN interface on most of our products. We hand place and route the isolated circuitry, then generate a keep out area, on all layers, with a generous spacing round all the tracks and pads. The autorouter then has the rest of the board to play with. Regards, Geoff Lister

RE: IEC 60079-11:1999

1999-11-18 Thread Ludlam, Nicholas
The gas mixture in IEC60079-11 that uses oxygen is an option. You are still able to use the 21 +/- 2% that is quoted in 10.1.2 of the standard. The 30% H2, 53% Air, 17% N2 is to allow you to put the safety factor on the gas mixture instead of putting it on either the voltage or current. The

RE: impact /probes

1999-11-18 Thread Colgan, Chris
Hi group Most of you experienced ball droppers probably already know this but for those of you that are new to the game I thought I should share this handy hint with you... Buy some ordinary drain pipe from your local hardware store and cut it to length the same as the height you need to drop

RE: internet information

1999-11-18 Thread Colgan, Chris
Laura BS1363, table 2 gives the maximum fuse rating for certain sizes of cable. Cord sizeRated current Fuse rating 0.50mmsq 3A 3A(5A)* 0.75mmsq 6A 13A 1mmsq 10A 13A 1.25mmsq 13A 13A 1.50mmsq 13A

RE: Non flammable material

1999-11-18 Thread Crabb, John
From IEC 74/510/CD, draft amendment to IEC 60950, Material flammability classifications, HBF replaced by FH-3. The new definitions are not in all cases identical to the earlier ones. I imagine the -40 in the FH3-40 you refer to is the burning rate of 40mm/min specified for HBF. A certain

RE: ISDN Access Switch for LAN/WAN

1999-11-18 Thread James, Chris
Is this an advert..? -Original Message- From: Nezam Najafi [mailto:nezam.naj...@madge.com] Sent: Wednesday, November 17, 1999 9:58 PM To: 'emc-p...@ieee.org' Subject: ISDN Access Switch for LAN/WAN To All: I was wondering if there is

RE: internet information

1999-11-18 Thread Crabb, John
Sorry to add to the confusion, but the British trade association FEI publishes a document on periodic safety checks for business equipment, which includes a table of conductor sizes and fuse sizes for British plugs, with the following note: BS 1363 specifies only the use of 3 A or 13 A fuses.

RE: IEC 61000-6-* series standards

1999-11-18 Thread ari . honkala
In IEC 61000-6 series, the sections 1 to 4 are published, but Cenelec has adopted only the section 2 that will replace the old EN 50082-2. It is not likely that the rest will be adopted by Cenelec since IEC have actually copied them from the latest Cenelec generics, so why bother. However, the

Non flammable material

1999-11-18 Thread Raymond . Li
Can anyone tell me where I can find the corresponding UL non flammable material of FH3-40 required in EN60065 (referenced to IEC60384-1). The material suppliers in the Far East are more familiar with UL materials than European materials. Thanks, Raymond Li - This message is coming

Mexican Question

1999-11-18 Thread carlos . perkins
Hello Chaps, We are making a batch of test boxes that will be used during the development of our main products. They will be CE marked (of course). Some will be sent to our factory in Mexico. Now, the question is, do these test boxes need to go through the NOM approvals process? They will

Re: Conducted Emissions for PS output

1999-11-18 Thread Ken Javor
Much clearer. I agree totally. The only justification for either MIL-STD-461-like or CISPR 22-like CE control is operation of sensitive radio receivers from or near the power bus. Absent that, only normal time domain power quality ripple limits need be applied. -- From: Brumbaugh,

RE: Conducted Emissions for PS output

1999-11-18 Thread Jim Eichner
Derek: In the US (or Canada) I am not aware of any FCC or I.C. documents that limit conducted emissions from the output of a power supply or battery charger. In Europe, for CE Mark purposes, you definitely need to have a look at the applicable EN's, because some of them do have requirements for

POWER CORDS color code FOR SOUTH AMERICA.

1999-11-18 Thread Peter E. Perkins
George and PSNet, Ahh... this triggers a similar situation from a past life seems that the company had specified the use of the IEC colors for all power cords... but the supplier thought that since the power plug was moulded-on the color of the internal wires didn't matter and

RE: internet information

1999-11-18 Thread Raymond . Li
Hi Laura, You can fit a 3 amp fuse in the fuse safely unless you have other technical specification on your product, i.e., high inrush current required. With 0.75 sq mm cord given, the maximum permissible current is 6A but the harmonised standard allows 10A in line with other European

Re: internet information

1999-11-18 Thread Raymond . Li
Hi Nick, Many thanks for your time and explaination that gives me a new view of UK fused plug. Best regards, Raymond Li = Nick Rouse 100626.3...@compuserve.com on 18/11/99 06:13:48 a To: Raymond Li/DixonsNotes cc: Subject:

RE: internet information

1999-11-18 Thread Raymond . Li
Hi John, Sorry to ask such a big question. In fact, this is my first time to hear such technical explaination about why UK plug must be fused so I believe I can ask a right person for this question. In the past, I got a common answer from UK people saying that the UK mains plug is the most

RE: Shielded Enclosure Fire Hazard

1999-11-18 Thread Egon H. Varju
Scott, I presume you mean Halon, not halogen. Sorry, but Halon systems are neither invisible nor odourless. When you set one off, the room fills with a smoky haze that has quite a strong odour. I presume that this is due to additives that are included for the very purpose of making it

Re: Printed Wiring Board Design for Safety Compliance

1999-11-18 Thread Robert Macy
Good question. Have you posted tosci.electronics.cad group to see what their answers were? - Robert - -Original Message- From: Rains,Mike mra...@foxboro.com To: 'emc-p...@ieee.org' emc-p...@ieee.org List-Post: emc-pstc@listserv.ieee.org Date: Wednesday,

RE: internet information

1999-11-18 Thread Chris Duprés
Hi Laura. You mention wire type: HO3VVF3G0.75 This looks like 0.75mm2 cross section area cable, and should be protected by a 5A fuse. Chris Duprés Surrey, UK. - This message is coming from the emc-pstc discussion list. To cancel your subscription, send mail to majord...@ieee.org with

RE: internet information (worldwide electricity supplies)

1999-11-18 Thread Edward Fitzgerald
Dear Laura et al. I wasn't sure if it was yourself or someone else that had asked about worldwide electricity supply voltages and frequencies. Anyway a brief list can be viewed at the following link : http://www.ets-tele.com/tics/global/volt_freq.htm Best regards, Edward Fitzgerald Director