board scanning on the cheap (sort of)

2001-08-08 Thread brent . dewitt
With all this talk about visualization, I thought I'd toss in my bit. Here at Datex-Ohmeda we have a small NC mill sometimes used by the RD group to make small prototype parts, but it often sits idle. Since I have a spectrum analyzer and a variety of small dimension H and E field probes I've

Re: EMSCAN (was TV nostalgia/EMI sniffer goggle)

2001-08-08 Thread Frank Krozel
RE: EMSCAN (was TV nostalgia/EMI sniffer goggle) - Original Message - From: Frank Krozel To: George Stults ; 'Ehler, Kyle' ; 'Ken Javor' ; emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org Sent: Wednesday, August 08, 2001 12:17 PM Subject: Re: EMSCAN (was TV nostalgia/EMI sniffer goggle) Hi George: You are

Re: IEEE EMC Society Website Problem ( FTP'ing....)

2001-08-08 Thread Frank Krozel
- Original Message - From: Frank Krozel To: emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org Sent: Wednesday, August 08, 2001 12:37 PM Subject: IEEE EMC Society Website Problem ( FTP'ing) Hi all: I am responsible for our local chapter website, and I have been attempting to FTP news to our membership,

IEEE EMC Society Website Problem ( FTP'ing....)

2001-08-08 Thread Frank Krozel
Hi all: I am responsible for our local chapter website, and I have been attempting to FTP news to our membership, but my password doesn't seem to be working. My past contact, dwesterv...@ieee.org is bouncing as well. Anyone out there have any information on who I need to contact on this issue???

Re: EMSCAN (was TV nostalgia/EMI sniffer goggle)

2001-08-08 Thread Frank Krozel
RE: EMSCAN (was TV nostalgia/EMI sniffer goggle)Hi George: You are most correct the earlier units did only have frequency coverage to 1.0Ghz, but the newer units go up to 2.7Ghz. Frank Krozel Frank Krozel TEL: 630-924-1600 FAX: 630-924-1668 MOBILE: 630-258-5421 (24/7) TEL: 630-653-9090 Home

Re: ESD - time between successive discharges

2001-08-08 Thread Ralph Cameron
John: I thought I had lost your original statement about CE not having a bearing on Quality. I would agree also. The statement was made, as I recall, in some article in Compliance Engineering. Not that UL is a quality mark or RU or FCC 15 etc. Quality is highly dependant on how your marketing

RE: EMI sniffer goggles

2001-08-08 Thread POWELL, DOUG
The sheet material you linked is for DC magnetic fields and it is made by Magne-Rite® ( http://www.magnerite.com/ http://www.magnerite.com/ ). Since it uses Ni particle movement I doubt it will even get close to 30Mhz. One other question, how does one sniff with their eyes? -doug

Re: EMSCAN (was TV nostalgia/EMI sniffer goggle)

2001-08-08 Thread Noiseless
We have found the limited resolution of EMCscan to limit (!) its usefulness - it can't pinpoint IC level problems, for example. Although marketed for emissions work, it is not usually the best tool if you are hunting down radiated emissions, since its response to (large) differential-mode

RE: EMI sniffer goggles

2001-08-08 Thread Ehler, Kyle
Hi Tim, Welcome to the fray.. There is in existence a sheet material that exhibits these properties however, the flux sensitivity may not be sufficient for practical use with EMI work. I suspect it is for intense near field only. Here's a link: http://www.wondermagnet.com/dev/magnet34.html Has

RE: EMSCAN (was TV nostalgia/EMI sniffer goggle)

2001-08-08 Thread George Stults
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Re: EMI sniffer goggles

2001-08-08 Thread Ken Javor
I hate to be a spoilsport but I believe we are also missing something which will react at millivolt or milliamp/meter field intensities. All these other sensors are reacting to relatively strong stimuli. -- From: Veit, Andy andy.v...@mts.com To: EMC-PSTC Discussion Group

Re: Emitters Within a CO

2001-08-08 Thread Cortland Richmond
You need to keep fields below the NEBS immunity limits, which are pretty low, IMHO. However, a 300 mW cellphone is not the same danger as a 5 watt high-band HT. Cortland --- This message is from the IEEE EMC Society Product Safety Technical Committee

radiated immunity 2 GHz

2001-08-08 Thread Pommerenke, David
I upgraded a chamber at hp and looked at: 1) How to pass the 16 point call up to 3 GHz 2) How to upgrade /change add absorbers 3) Which commercial antenna works best from 26 Mhz - 3 GHz 4) How much power is needed. 5) How well does the signal repeat. 6) Field probes 7) etc. The lab is

RE: EMI sniffer goggles

2001-08-08 Thread Roman, Dan
In a past job (10 years ago) another compliance engineer and myself were discussing how nice it would be to have EMI sunglasses while working on fixing a particularly noisy and troublesome piece of equipment. The idea was inspired by the X-ray glasses sold on the back cover of comic books.

Re: Emitters Within a CO

2001-08-08 Thread Eric Petitpierre
Ed, I don't know of any approved cell phones that can be used within a cental office. It seems like it would be up to each central office/telco to make that decision. As far as field strength from cell phones, 5 to 10 V/m is what I have also heard As you may know, GR-1089 has an RF immunity

RE: Mexico question

2001-08-08 Thread Stone, Richard A (Richard)
You can get NOM exemption by meeting certain criteria for specialized equipment. Fast microprocessors,used in special places ( CO's) and not touched by non-technical people. this does not give you a NOM mark, but you get a letter stating its OK to ship into Mexico based on its specialized

Fwd: RE: ETSI EMC Standard

2001-08-08 Thread Paolo Gemma
Date: Wed, 08 Aug 2001 12:13:38 +0200 To: umbdenst...@sensormatic.com From: Paolo Gemma paolo.ge...@icn.siemens.it Subject: RE: ETSI EMC Standard I am involved in ETSI The change was drive by IEC 61000-4-3 that approved this modification to the basic standards. A similar change is also in the

RE: EMI sniffer goggles

2001-08-08 Thread Veit, Andy
Along the lines of EMI sensitive paper... There is such a thing for viewing magnetic fields, funnily enough. Its called Magnetic Viewing Paper and McMaster Carr has it for $14.22 for 27 square inches, p/n 5702K21. When the paper is laid over magnets, the paper shows the outline and shape of

RE: Mexico question

2001-08-08 Thread Alejandro Torrecilla Torregrosa
Hi Doug, NOM-001 includes electrical safety requirements and testing methods for type approval of household electronic apparatus as TVs, remote control, microwaves,... NOM-016 includes electrical safety requirements and testing methods for electronic apparatus for use in office as fax machines,

RE: GSM IN Taiwan

2001-08-08 Thread Anderson Cheng(TPE)
Mike, My understanding is that the designating authority for GSM phones is the Directorate General of Telecommunications (DGT). The only one accredited laboratory for the interoperability testing for GSM phones is the ChungHwa. Tel: +886-2-2326-2463 Fax: +886-2-2707-9668 Email:

Re: EMI sniffer goggles

2001-08-08 Thread Wan Juang Foo
I suppose that can be achieve with some class of liquid crystals embedded in a polymer medium. The problem is that is the representation in the near field or just a plane (cross section). I will prefer a none intrusive gas or vapour that will 'glow' at different field intensity and colour,

Re: ESD - time between successive discharges

2001-08-08 Thread John Woodgate
95fbd8b0830ed511b7720002a51363f1319...@exw-ks.ks.lsil.com, Ehler, Kyle keh...@lsil.com inimitably wrote: No John, I'm not referring to you. (or anyone else in particular)  I dont know you well enough -yet..lol I'm just spaking on how we do the job of ensuring that our products meet