Re: Use of the # button on telephone dial

2003-03-20 Thread Jacob Schanker
A curious point: I noticed that the correspondence on this topic has all avoided using a name for the # key. That's a good thing too, because it has different names in various countries. In the US, we tend to hear it called pound sign. That is clearly ridiculous to the British, who bloody well

RE: Use of the # button on telephone dial

2003-03-20 Thread Sam Davis
In the US, some networks use it in place of the * in their features. For example, some use a #69 instead of *69. Many PBXs use the # in their codes, such as #8 (T) for transfer, then the extension. Hope this helps, Sam This message is from the IEEE EMC Society Product Safety Technical

Re: Use of the # button on telephone dial

2003-03-20 Thread b...@lyons.demon.co.uk
In message 12c.26201efa.2bab8...@aol.com j...@aol.com writes: Sorry if this is a little off-topic, but is anyone aware of any central office features, or other network features, that use the # button on the standard telephone DTMF keypad? I know of some features that use the * button,

Use of the # button on telephone dial

2003-03-20 Thread j...@aol.com
Hello All: Sorry if this is a little off-topic, but is anyone aware of any central office features, or other network features, that use the # button on the standard telephone DTMF keypad? I know of some features that use the * button, but I am unaware of any that use #. I have been asked

Re: Noxious and Hazardous Substances in Packaging

2003-03-20 Thread John Woodgate
I read in !emc-pstc that richwo...@tycoint.com wrote (in 846BF526A205F8 4BA2B6045BBF7E9A6A04675DDB@flbocexu05) about 'Noxious and Hazardous Substances in Packaging' on Thu, 20 Mar 2003: So, until the standard is revised, what means are available to determine if an additive is noxious or

RE: surge Z?

2003-03-20 Thread drcuthbert
Thanks to everyone for the numbers. To clarify, the device is a DC/DC converter. We will be applying the surge to the DC input and to the DC output. I have ordered EN 61000-4-5 to get the details. Dave From: John Barnes [mailto:jrbar...@iglou.com] Sent: Thursday, March 20, 2003 9:45 AM To:

Re: surge Z?

2003-03-20 Thread John Barnes
Dave, Section 6.1 of EN 61000-4-5:1995 says the generator has an effective output impedance of 2 ohms. John Barnes KS4GL, PE, NCE, ESDC Eng., SM IEEE dBi Corporation http://www.dbicorporation.com/ This message is from the IEEE EMC Society Product

RE: surge Z?

2003-03-20 Thread Mike Hopkins
The surge generator specification is 2 ohms source impedance for testing in normal mode (line to line) and 12 ohms for testing in common mode (surges line to ground). Mike Hopkins Thermo Electron KeyTek From: drcuthbert [mailto:drcuthb...@micron.com] Sent: Wednesday, March 19, 2003 3:36 PM

Re: California NRTL requirements.

2003-03-20 Thread C N
General site for the City of Los Angeles Department of Building and Safety http://www.ladbs.org/ Specifically what's recognized in LA ... http://www.ladbs.org/ETL_LSTLAB.pdf Opinion: I don't know anything about your specific situation, but my general advice is that if I were to get NRTL

RE: Importing Bluetooth product into Egypt and Saudi Arabia

2003-03-20 Thread Tyra, John
Kurt, Try contacting this gentlemen. I think he can help you Nabil Bill Bekdash +1 978 635-8650/1/2/3 (Phone) +1 978 635-1620 (Fax) Email address: nbekd...@etlsemko.com RLC-Americas Department E-mail address: r...@etlsemko.com Kuwait PAI ICCP web site address: www.pai-iccp.com SASO ICCP

RE: surge Z?

2003-03-20 Thread john.radom...@modicon.com
From 2 to 42 (40 + 2). John Radomski Schneider Electric Several. From 2 to 40 ohms, Regards, Ari Honkala -Original Message- From: ext drcuthbert [mailto:drcuthb...@micron.com] Sent: Wednesday, March 19, 2003 10:36 PM To: emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org Subject: surge Z? Anyone

Re: BNC connectors with integrated caps to ground

2003-03-20 Thread John Woodgate
I read in !emc-pstc that Barker, Neil neil.bar...@e2vtechnologies.com wrote (in 4f826f960057d4118ec3009027e2453808a52...@whl17.e2v.uk) about 'BNC connectors with integrated caps to ground' on Thu, 20 Mar 2003: The caps are in the panel mount connector. These are isolated BNC connectors, where

RE: Fire Retardants

2003-03-20 Thread Robert Johnson
We experienced this problem with a small computer fan about 30 year ago. The fan bearing would fail after a few years, the fan would stall and impedance protection allowed the fan to sit and cook for months. Eventually the insulation failed and allowed an arc. The plastic at this point had lost

Re: Racing Car EMC

2003-03-20 Thread Fred Townsend
Ed, the ignition systems on race cars are formidable EMI sources. Furthermore racers tend to disdain of EMI suppression. I have heard many of a mechanic say with reference to stock cars, the first thing they do is to soap one up is Rip out all that suppresser crap (meaning EMI suppression).

Re: Fire Retardants

2003-03-20 Thread soundsu...@aol.com
In a message dated 3/18/03 9:36:18 AM Eastern Standard Time, richwo...@tycoint.com writes: If a plastic containing a fire retardant is subjected to high heat (for example, due to a overheated component) for an extended period of time (many hours or several days), is it possible that the fire

HP 34970A Data Acquisition/Switch Unit for sale

2003-03-20 Thread Tom Smith
We have a used HP 34970A Data Acquisition/Switch Unit available for sale. Unit has HPIB/RS-232 interface and external trigger alarm capability. Can be run with Benchlink software. http://we.home.agilent.com/cgi-bin/bv ub/agilent/editorial/cp_MiscEditorial.j

EMC GOST-R

2003-03-20 Thread Amund Westin
In Europe, EN55022 and EN55024 applies for ITE. So, what about Russia: 1. What are the equivalent GOST standards for ITE? 2. Are GOST only concerned about conducted and radiated emission, or do they also include immunity requirements ? Thanks a lot. Amund This message is from the IEEE EMC

RE: RE2: Dark Fiber and Regulation

2003-03-20 Thread Peter L. Tarver
Andre - My understanding of the term dark fiber is identical to Marko's. In the reading I've done, I've never seen it used to refer to anything other than unused channels or fibers. If you have other information, I would appreciate your sharing the source. Regards, Peter L. Tarver, PE

Northeast Product Safety Society Meeting Next Week on Wednesday, March 26

2003-03-20 Thread Matt Campanella
All, There will be a Northeast Product Safety Society meeting on Wednesday, March 26th, at EMC Corporation's Customer Briefing Center at 42 South Street in Hopkinton, MA. A social hour with light refreshments will begin at 7:00 PM and the technical meeting will start at 7:30 PM. There will be

California NRTL requirements.

2003-03-20 Thread Donald McElheran
I am looking into what possible option are available to meeting NRTL approvals requirements for electronic equipment install within the state of California (San Bernardino specifically). If a product has not been NRTL certified for the US market are there local special inspection services

RE: BNC connectors with integrated caps to ground

2003-03-20 Thread Barker, Neil
Chet, The caps are in the panel mount connector. These are isolated BNC connectors, where the body is plastic. The caps are embodied within the plastic body and are chip capacitors that lie between the outer 'tube' of the BNC and a spring clip that stakes into the ground on your PCB and also

surge Z?

2003-03-20 Thread drcuthbert
Anyone know the source impedance used for EN 61000-4-5 Surge testing? Dave Cuthbert Micron Technology This message is from the IEEE EMC Society Product Safety Technical Committee emc-pstc discussion list. Visit our web site at: http://www.ewh.ieee.org/soc/emcs/pstc/ To cancel your

RE: antenna port conducted emissions

2003-03-20 Thread drcuthbert
Aaron, I believe you use the standard receiver RBW and use the peak hold mode. Depending on how the spread spectrum operates (I.E. wideband noise, or frequency hopping, etc.) the receiver and the transmitter will eventually line up. Dave Cuthbert From: Price, Ed [mailto:ed.pr...@cubic.com]

Re: Fire Retardants

2003-03-20 Thread John Barnes
Richard, A book that may help you is Fire Retardancy of Polymeric Materials, by Arthur F. Grand and Charles A. Wilkie (New York: Marcel Dekker, 2000). Chapter titles are: 1. The Changing Nature of Fire Retardancy in Polymers. 2. Chemical Aspects of Thermal Decomposition. 3. Fire Test

RE: Racing Car EMC

2003-03-20 Thread Price, Ed
-Original Message- From: Peter Conboy [mailto:peter.con...@piresearch.co.uk] Sent: Monday, March 17, 2003 1:50 AM To: 'emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org' Subject: Racing Car EMC Anyone out there got an opinion on what standards should be applied for the electronics fitted to racing cars -

Importing Bluetooth product into Egypt and Saudi Arabia

2003-03-20 Thread Kurt Fischer
Hello colleagues, I was wondering if anyone has any information on importing a Bluetooth portable product into Egypt and Saudi Arabia. Bluetooth is low-powered (less than +4 dBm)wireless technology. The device operates in the 2.4 GHz ISM band and uses FHSS technology. The product would already

IEEE EMCS Meeting March 18 - Orange County, Ca

2003-03-20 Thread Flinders, Randall
IEEE Meeting March 18 2003. Topic: Basic Regulations and the Practice of Conformity Assessment in Russia, with some specific examples. Member states of the former Soviet Union represent a significant and rapidly growing emerging market for information technology equipment, household

RE: Fw, Yahoo Groups Recommendation?: Changes to IEEE emc-pstc we

2003-03-20 Thread Richard A. Schumacher
Agreed. Spanking the net nanny is not an option for many corporate readers. Picking a web host that we know is commonly blocked will shoot the mail list in the foot, or maybe the head. regards, Richard Schumacher Hewlett Packard This message is from the IEEE EMC Society Product Safety

Racing Car EMC

2003-03-20 Thread Peter Conboy
Anyone out there got an opinion on what standards should be applied for the electronics fitted to racing cars - F1, CART, IRL etc.? Because of the environment, the need for absolute reliability, and the safety critical application (e.g. throttle, clutch, steering, chassis control) we take

RE: BNC connectors with integrated caps to ground

2003-03-20 Thread Knighten, Jim L
Chet, http://dkc3.digikey.com/PDF/T031/M1.html gets you to a DigiKey page. Look under Amp/Tyco for Connectors, BNC, Decoupled 0209 for several examples of these panel mounted connectors. Other manufacturers have competing models. Jim Jim Knighten, Ph.D. Teradata, a Division of NCR

Dark Fiber and Regulation

2003-03-20 Thread Andre, Pierre-Marie
Hi there, Could somebody bring some light (!) on the so called “Dark Fiber” offering. Here is one definition I found : Dark fiber is optical fiber infrastructure (cabling and repeaters) that is currently in place but is not being used. Optical fiber conveys information in the form of light

RE: antenna port conducted emissions

2003-03-20 Thread Price, Ed
-Original Message- From: Low, Aaron S [mailto:aaron.s@lmco.com] Sent: Wednesday, March 19, 2003 11:49 AM To: emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org Subject: RE: antenna port conducted emissions I'd like to thank all those who replied so far. According to MIL-STD-462D: 4.9.2 Operating

RE: surge Z?

2003-03-20 Thread ari.honk...@nokia.com
Several. From 2 to 40 ohms, Regards, Ari Honkala -Original Message- From: ext drcuthbert [mailto:drcuthb...@micron.com] Sent: Wednesday, March 19, 2003 10:36 PM To: emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org Subject: surge Z? Anyone know the source impedance used for EN 61000-4-5 Surge