RE: cable maximization - do you or don't you??

2003-07-07 Thread Grasso, Charles
No argument there - I was wondering what the general modus operandi was. Best Regards Charles Grasso Senior Compliance Engineer Echostar Communications Corp. Tel: 303-706-5467 Fax: 303-799-6222 Cell: 303-204-2974 Email: charles.gra...@echostar.com; Email Alternate: chasgra...@ieee.org

Re: cable maximization - do you or don't you??

2003-07-07 Thread Ken Javor
I don't think it is at all complicated, at least in principle. Maybe a devil will emerge out of some details I am missing... I don't see how an end-driven wire can radiate more efficiently than a tuned half-wave dipole. That model can be used to convert from field intensity at X meters to peak

Re: High Power Transorb

2003-07-07 Thread lfresea...@aol.com
In a message dated 7/7/2003 4:17:29 PM Central Daylight Time, j...@jmwa.demon.co.uk writes: I'm looking for a high power transorb ( NOT MOV ). Currently the biggest I can find is 5kW. Can anyone point me to a higher power device? 5 kW for how long? Isn't it the total energy that is

Re: High Power Transorb

2003-07-07 Thread John Woodgate
I read in !emc-pstc that lfresea...@aol.com wrote (in 196.1cf48d62.2c3a f...@aol.com) about 'High Power Transorb' on Mon, 7 Jul 2003: I'm looking for a high power transorb ( NOT MOV ). Currently the biggest I can find is 5kW. Can anyone point me to a higher power device? 5 kW for

Re: cable maximization - do you or don't you??

2003-07-07 Thread John Woodgate
I read in !emc-pstc that Ken Javor ken.ja...@emccompliance.com wrote (in bb2efbe8.2b77%ken.ja...@emccompliance.com) about 'cable maximization - do you or don't you??' on Mon, 7 Jul 2003: Why not calculate the cable conducted emission that would result in radiated spec level compliance, and levy

Re: cable maximization - do you or don't you??

2003-07-07 Thread John Woodgate
I read in !emc-pstc that lfresea...@aol.com wrote (in 7a.439a5e0a.2c3ad c...@aol.com) about 'cable maximization - do you or don't you??' on Mon, 7 Jul 2003: I've often wondered what would happen if the FCC ( for example ) had under cover engineers that took products barely passing to

RE: High Power Transorb

2003-07-07 Thread Helge Knudsen
Hello Derek, Try General Semiconductor Industries or SGS-Thompson, They both have at lest 5 kW devices. Best regards Helge Knudsen Test Approval manager Niros Telecommunication Hirsemarken 5 DK-3520 Farum Denmark Tel +45 44 34 22 51 Fax +45 44 99 28 08 email h.knud...@niros.com

Re: New Approach vs WEEE/RoHS

2003-07-07 Thread Nick Williams
Neil, Are there any public documents accessible on the WWW regarding the framework directive you mention? Nick. At 9:44 + 4/7/03, Neil Helsby wrote: Joe, I haven't seen any replies to this query so will just put in my ha-peth (cent) for what it's worth. In order to declare

High Power Transorb

2003-07-07 Thread lfresea...@aol.com
Hi all, I'm looking for a high power transorb ( NOT MOV ). Currently the biggest I can find is 5kW. Can anyone point me to a higher power device? Thanks, Derek N. Walton Owner L F Research EMC Design and Test Facility Poplar Grove, Illinois, USA www.lfresearch.com

RE: RTTE Directive Member States Notification

2003-07-07 Thread fdev...@assaabloyitg.com
Rich, Inductive Devices operating at 13.56 MHz are Class 1 and are therefore harmonized in the EU. Non-specific 13.56 MHz devices are not Class 1 and are therefore not harmonized. See http://www.ero.dk/rtte Regards, Frank de Vall Assa Abloy ITG

Re: cable maximization - do you or don't you??

2003-07-07 Thread Cortland Richmond
Derek N. Walton wrote: I've often wondered what would happen if the FCC ( for example ) had under cover engineers that took products barely passing to test labs. Specifically, what the results would be :-) That is pretty close to what the FCC used to do, remember? Testing indoors at one

Re: cable maximization - do you or don't you??

2003-07-07 Thread Bruce T
This is a multi-part message in MIME format. Hi Charles, I always made it my responsibility (the owner of product) to ensure that the max config was tested, including cables. I find that most lab techs won't remind you of this, once you have arrived with your equipment, either they don't have

RE: CE for components?

2003-07-07 Thread Brian O'Connell
Scope appears to be for end-use stuff only, so I would only use as guidance, as I have done for other EMC stds . I am not familiar with this standard. Are there any significant differences in immunity or emission requirements, as compared to the Basic (61000-3 and -4) or Generic stds? Note that

Re: cable maximization - do you or don't you??

2003-07-07 Thread Ken Javor
An excellent opportunity to ask a question of list members, especially those involved in standards writing. Why not calculate the cable conducted emission that would result in radiated spec level compliance, and levy a cable conducted emission requirement? Then OATS testing would not require

Re: cable maximization - do you or don't you??

2003-07-07 Thread lfresea...@aol.com
In a message dated 7/7/2003 9:05:57 AM Central Daylight Time, jim.bac...@paxar.com writes: Charles, I have used three labs over the last two years. Every single one of them maximized the cables. One of the labs was part of a large company, the other two were smaller privately owned labs. In

RE: cable maximization - do you or don't you??

2003-07-07 Thread Jim Bacher
Charles, I have used three labs over the last two years. Every single one of them maximized the cables. One of the labs was part of a large company, the other two were smaller privately owned labs. In each of these cases the reports specified that they maximized the cables. An the other hand, 20

RE: cable maximization - do you or don't you??

2003-07-07 Thread Morse, Earl (E.A.)
When the standards changed to move the EUT and peripherals to the back edge of the test table, cable maximization was left mostly up to gravity with the cables being draped as they fell. Most test facilities do not go any further than that. I have seen OEMs that go so far as to do cable

RE: Argentina's Electrical Safety ('S' mark)

2003-07-07 Thread richwo...@tycoint.com
Keven, check out the following sites. http://www.ul.com/argentina/index.htm http://www.ul.com/argentina/overview.htm http://www.int-app.tuv.com/SouthAm/Argentina/Argentina.htm http://www.ce-mag.com/ARG/Jones.html http://europe2.dynamicweb.dk/Default.asp?ID=72

Argentina's Electrical Safety ('S' mark)

2003-07-07 Thread Kevin Richardson
Can anyone advise where I can find: - good information on Argentina's regulatory requirements concerning electrical safety and what you need to do etc - where I can find a listing of non-Argentine labs whose reports are acceptable - information relating to differences, if any, from USA and IEC