Fw: resend environmental quotation.

2008-05-06 Thread ooverton
Ken Javor wrote: It is not coincidence that the excuse for imposing these controls during nominal peace time is a crisis advertised to once again doom civilization - global warming. The would-be Overlords, who are in reality Untermensch, fully recognize that a crisis of global proportions is

Re: Fw: resend environmental quotation.

2008-05-06 Thread reheller
While interesting, do we really need the philosophical/political emails on this site? Bob Heller 3M EMC Laboratory, 76-1-01 St. Paul, MN 55107-1208 Tel: 651- 778-6336 Fax: 651-778-6252 - This message is from the IEEE Product Safety Engineering Society emc-pstc discussion list.Website:

Re: Fw: resend environmental quotation.

2008-05-06 Thread John Woodgate
In message of5d189f68.412bb4e0-on85257441.0044356c-85257441.004c0...@lexmark.com, dated Tue, 6 May 2008, oover...@lexmark.com writes: A quote from the article: And she has a quality scientists try to cultivate: she is skeptical. Has someone made a claim? She wants to see the data. Yes,

Re: Fw: resend environmental quotation.

2008-05-06 Thread John Woodgate
In message of4c31e70b.c1038405-on86257441.004ccaf4-86257441.004d0...@mmm.com, dated Tue, 6 May 2008, rehel...@mmm.com writes: While interesting, do we really need the philosophical/political emails on this site? You have to allow a few OT digressions, but not let them carry on for long. --

Re: resend environmental quotation.

2008-05-06 Thread Curt McNamara
Agreed. Essentially we are being sent spam. We subscribed to a list on product safety. Curt On May 6, 2008, at 9:00 AM, rehel...@mmm.com wrote: While interesting, do we really need the philosophical/political emails on this site? Bob Heller 3M EMC Laboratory, 76-1-01 St.

RE: Fw: resend environmental quotation.

2008-05-06 Thread Tyra, John
In these types of debates both sides can usually present their data to make a strong case that they are correct on an issue. For the average individual it comes down to what you want to believe which decides which side you support... We are seeing this currently with the arm wrestling that is

RE: New Technology

2008-05-06 Thread Kunde, Brian
I agree that solar power is limited on the earth's surface. The only way to get large amounts of energy from the sun is to go into outer space. The problem then is how to capture the energy and transport it to the surface? Solar panels can be placed in areas that are unfavorable for growing food,

Machine Nameplate - Full Load Amp rating

2008-05-06 Thread Lauren_Crane
For industrial machinery, the NEC (NF{PA 70) requires an FLA marking on the machine nameplate, and that the value shall not be less than the sum of the full-load currents required for all motors and other equipment that may be in operation at the same time under normal conditions of use.

OT: Line wrap for emails

2008-05-06 Thread Scott B. Lacey
Off-topic Subject: Line wrap for emails To the group, I hope fellow members can help. I've noticed that my emails are getting extra line breaks when posted to the emc-pstc forum. I have also noticed that emails from others also show line break issues. What is the best setting to be

RE: Fw: resend environmental quotation.

2008-05-06 Thread Kunde, Brian
We are all puppets to the political and philosophical not to mention the hidden agenda of the puppet masters. That is why we all have jobs doing what we do. Never-the-less, I still have to go into the lab and try to blow up a power supply with surge. The Other Brian From: emc-p...@ieee.org

Re: New Technology

2008-05-06 Thread John Woodgate
In message 0ed66cd2c9bd0a459d54fb9119a60567a76...@mailserver.lecotc.com, dated Tue, 6 May 2008, Kunde, Brian brian_ku...@lecotc.com writes: I recently read a news story about a guy who claims he can burn seawater using RF You have a link to that? You can decompose water vapour with a strong

Changes to flammability requrirement for Audio/Video

2008-05-06 Thread Grasso, Charles
Hi John, I am VERY interested in these changes (esp. as I haven't heard of any!). Would you please send details? Thanks! Charles Grasso EchoStar Communications L.L.C. - This message is from the IEEE Product Safety Engineering Society emc-pstc discussion list.Website:

Re: Machine Nameplate - Full Load Amp rating

2008-05-06 Thread John Woodgate
In message of67a0f7a6.a87bddc4-on86257441.005157b3-86257441.00522...@amat.com, dated Tue, 6 May 2008, lauren_cr...@amat.com writes: For industrial machinery, the NEC (NF{PA 70)  requires an FLA marking on the machine nameplate, and that the value shall not be less than the sum of the

Re: Changes to flammability requrirement for Audio/Video

2008-05-06 Thread John Woodgate
In message 8fe3816af82d194db98d7451040bd58ab42...@mer2-excha2.echostar.com, dated Tue, 6 May 2008, Grasso, Charles charles.gra...@echostar.com writes: I am VERY interested in these changes (esp. as I haven't heard of any!). Would you please send details? There is a CENELEC Technical

Re: Machine Nameplate - Full Load Amp rating

2008-05-06 Thread Ted Eckert
My experience is with air conditioners which may not be as complicated as your equipment. I have had products that include up to five motors, some with VFD and others with electronically commutation. These products have also included electric heaters and other electric loads. I agree that the

Re: Electrical Safety regulations regarding PLUGS for DIRECT PLUG-IN TRANSGFORMERS in CHINA

2008-05-06 Thread Grace Lin
Constantin, The implementation rule, governing CCC approval process, for the standards Ted pointed out is CNCA-01C-003. An English version of this implementation rule is available from the CNCA web site at www.cnca.gov.cn. Click ENGLISH (upper right corner) to go to English web page. The CQC

RE: FCC Labelling

2008-05-06 Thread Grasso, Charles
Grace – For the US that is OK. (Other than any importation paperwork). From: emc-p...@ieee.org [mailto:emc-p...@ieee.org] On Behalf Of Grace Lin Sent: Monday, May 05, 2008 10:10 AM To: emc-p...@ieee.org Subject: FCC Labelling Dear Members, Is there any

RE: Machine Nameplate - Full Load Amp rating

2008-05-06 Thread Tarver, Peter
From: Lauren Crane Sent: Tuesday, May 06, 2008 7:57 AM For industrial machinery, the NEC (NF{PA 70) requires an FLA marking on the machine nameplate ... Does the 'may' in 'may be in operation at the same time' require that one consider what *could* happen even if it is not how the

RE: Machine Nameplate - Full Load Amp rating

2008-05-06 Thread Lauren_Crane
Thanks all for the input so far To address one question from Peter, Q Yes, if it's a possible use, it must be considered. One way to think of this is, if there's a setting from 0 to 10 and typically used at 2, why is it adjustable beyond 2, if it isn't expected to be used at that level?

RE: Machine Nameplate - Full Load Amp rating

2008-05-06 Thread Tarver, Peter
From: lauren_cr...@amat.com Sent: Tuesday, May 06, 2008 9:31 AM To address one question from Peter, Q Yes, if it's a possible use, it must be considered. One way to think of this is, if there's a setting from 0 to 10 and typically used at 2, why is it adjustable beyond 2, if it