[PSES] Regulatory requirements for MOVs placed line-to-ground on AC mains ports?

2017-10-30 Thread Joe Randolph
Hello All: Aside from surge tolerance during normal type testing, are there any regulatory requirements regarding the placement of MOVs from line to ground on an AC mains input port? I seem to recall that some countries or standards are concerned about potential hazards associated with

Re: [PSES] FCC Language in Manuals, Intentional Transmitter

2017-10-30 Thread Brian O'Connell
Also should note that a computer peripheral is allowed have the single required reference and note to see manual. In any case, the TCB should specify markings in your report. And the OET has issued some rulings on product marks. Brian -Original Message- From: Brian O'Connell Sent:

Re: [PSES] FCC Language in Manuals, Intentional Transmitter

2017-10-30 Thread Brian O'Connell
"(c) The provisions of paragraphs (a) and (b) of this section do not apply todigital devices exempted from the technical standards under the provisions of  § 15.103." And, in any case, is allowed to be in the manual. And scope of 15.19 labeling stuff is found in 15.19(a). Or use Jedi mind

[PSES] FCC Language in Manuals, Intentional Transmitter

2017-10-30 Thread Mike Sherman
Esteemed Colleagues -- We are incorporating a modularly approved intentional transmitter into some industrial products. We understand the requirement to include on the product (or in our manuals, if the product is too small) the Part 15.19 compliance statement (" This device complies with

Re: [PSES] EN 301 489-1 and RED

2017-10-30 Thread Ralph McDiarmid
I think Charlie’s final bullet point is key. The customs and surveillance authorities are looking for references to the latest harmonized standards in a DofC. The don’t understand or will not accept the concept of ‘presumption of conformity’; they want to see the EN standards listed. Ralph

Re: [PSES] EN 301 489-1 and RED

2017-10-30 Thread Charlie Blackham
Scott > The knowledge and experience of each manufacturer vary markedly It does, and that of test labs, and that of consultants :) Harmonised Standards are not compulsory under EMCD or LVD - they provide for a “presumption of conformity”, and they’re very often the best option, but

Re: [PSES] EN 301 489-1 and RED

2017-10-30 Thread Scott Xe
Hi Charlie, Is there any condition for that a manufacturer is free to choose any standards for demonstrating compliance with article 3(1), safety and EMC.  The knowledge and experience of each manufacturer vary markedly.  I am at loss on what basis, how can EU allow the manufacturer to

Re: [PSES] EN 301 489-1 and RED

2017-10-30 Thread John Woodgate
Understood. These desk officers! I also wasn't aware of the allowance of non-harmonized standards in some cases.  But the tardiness remains and is a blight for everyone concerned with compliance. John Woodgate OOO-Own Opinions Only J M Woodgate and Associates www.woodjohn.uk Rayleigh, Essex UK

Re: [PSES] EN 301 489-1 and RED

2017-10-30 Thread Charlie Blackham
John In the case of RED EMC standard, the EU Commission Desk Officer rejected the first wave of published Standards as they didn’t contain the required legal text, so the standards had to go back, be updated, and follow the normal approval route before they could be published and (re)

Re: [PSES] EN 301 489-1 and RED

2017-10-30 Thread John Woodgate
Maybe those manufacturers are hoping to be caught, so that they can draw attention (even in a court) to the tardiness of the updating of the OJ listings. John Woodgate OOO-Own Opinions Only J M Woodgate and Associates www.woodjohn.uk Rayleigh, Essex UK On 2017-10-30 06:59, Amund Westin wrote:

Re: [PSES] EN 301 489-1 and RED

2017-10-30 Thread Charlie Blackham
Amund No, a manufacturer is free to choose any standards for demonstrating compliance with article 3(1), safety and EMC. It is only where Harmonised Standards for article 3(2) and article (3) standards have not been followed that a Notified Body must be used. This is detailed in Article 17 of

[PSES] SV: [PSES] EN 301 489-1 and RED

2017-10-30 Thread Amund Westin
Charilie EN 301 489-1 is an article 3.1.b standard under RED, and not yet harmonized. But according to RED Article 17. 2(a), you just carry out Internal production control without any need for NB examinations? BR Amund Fra: Charlie Blackham [mailto:char...@sulisconsultants.com]

Re: [PSES] EN 301 489-1 and RED

2017-10-30 Thread Ari Honkala
Hi, this is not necessary for Article 3(1), see Article 17 of RED. Regards, Ari Honkala From: Amund Westin [mailto:am...@westin-emission.no] Sent: maanantai 30. lokakuuta 2017 8:59 To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: [PSES] EN 301 489-1 and RED EN 301 489-1 v2.2.0 is still not listed as a

[PSES] EN 301 489-1 and RED

2017-10-30 Thread Amund Westin
EN 301 489-1 v2.2.0 is still not listed as a harmonized RED standard. I see a lot of DoCs with EN 301 489-1 v2.2.0 included, but none of the DoC owners have a EU-Type examination certificate in addition. I assume it is still a requirement to consult a Notified body and get a EU-Type