Re: [PSES] Interference Caused by Microwave Oven

2015-05-15 Thread John Woodgate
In message 1f28.6030...@gmail.com, dated Thu, 14 May 2015, Doug Powell doug...@gmail.com writes: My question is this.  If the RF generated inside the oven does not stop prior to the opening of the RF seal on the door, which testing is responsible to identify this problem, EMC or the

Re: [PSES] Interference Caused by Microwave Oven

2015-05-15 Thread John Woodgate
In message blupr02mb1162688d885f918f36748fdc1...@blupr02mb116.namprd02.prod.outlook .com, dated Thu, 14 May 2015, Brian Oconnell oconne...@tamuracorp.com writes: Think that CISPR32 is supposed to address very short-term stuff, but since is not recurring and periodic, would a few hundred mSec

Re: [PSES] Interference Caused by Microwave Oven

2015-05-15 Thread Michael Derby
. -Original Message- From: John Woodgate [mailto:j...@jmwa.demon.co.uk] Sent: 14 May 2015 23:42 To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: Re: [PSES] Interference Caused by Microwave Oven In message 1f28.6030...@gmail.com, dated Thu, 14 May 2015, Doug Powell doug...@gmail.com writes: My

Re: [PSES] [External] Re: [PSES] Interference Caused by Microwave Oven

2015-05-15 Thread Wiseman, Joshua E BIS
, nor do I know the history of the standard so there maybe something there too. Josh -Original Message- From: John Woodgate [mailto:j...@jmwa.demon.co.uk] Sent: Thursday, May 14, 2015 5:42 PM To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: [External] Re: [PSES] Interference Caused by Microwave

Re: [PSES] [External] Re: [PSES] Interference Caused by Microwave Oven

2015-05-15 Thread Cortland Richmond
, 2015 8:55 AM To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: Re: [PSES] [External] Re: [PSES] Interference Caused by Microwave Oven IEC/EN 60335-2-25 and IEC/EN 60335-2-90 have limits on the radiation emitted from the microwave with the door open. This includes testing with the seal broken

Re: [PSES] Interference Caused by Microwave Oven

2015-05-15 Thread John Woodgate
In message 001001d08f24$621e6c60$265b4520$@pctestlab.com, dated Fri, 15 May 2015, dward dw...@pctestlab.com writes: The solution to that is simple - get a new microwave but don't buy the same brand. :) What is the Bayesian probability that the new brand will be worse? (;-) -- OOO - Own

Re: [PSES] Interference Caused by Microwave Oven

2015-05-15 Thread dward
15, 2015 12:02 AM To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: Re: [PSES] Interference Caused by Microwave Oven This isn't a particularly helpful contribution, but when I use my microwave (used correctly, with the door closed), my Bluetooth speaker completely stops working and any WiFi activity grinds

Re: [PSES] Interference Caused by Microwave Oven

2015-05-15 Thread Ken Wyatt
I was wondering the same regarding “capacitor hold-up” keeping the magnetron working for up to a half sine. As for the radio astronomy frequency allocations, here is the internationally recognized list: http://www.astrosurf.com/luxorion/radioastro-frequencieslist.htm

Re: [PSES] Interference Caused by Microwave Oven

2015-05-15 Thread Ken Javor
edpr...@cox.net Reply-To: Ed Price edpr...@cox.net Date: Fri, 15 May 2015 15:09:57 -0700 To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: Re: [PSES] Interference Caused by Microwave Oven Old microwave ovens (like the one from 1988) were electrically quite simple; a relay applied AC power to a step-up

Re: [PSES] Interference Caused by Microwave Oven

2015-05-15 Thread Ken Javor
-0700 To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Conversation: [PSES] Interference Caused by Microwave Oven Subject: Re: [PSES] Interference Caused by Microwave Oven One-half sine wave is 8/10 ms, and even that seems like a lot of hold-up time for an HV capacitor and several hundred Watts dissipated. Even at 8 ms

Re: [PSES] Interference Caused by Microwave Oven

2015-05-15 Thread Ed Price
suspicious of the signals, as they only were a problem during working hours. Ed Price WB6WSN Chula Vista, CA USA From: Ken Wyatt [mailto:k...@emc-seminars.com] Sent: Friday, May 15, 2015 8:55 AM To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: Re: [PSES] Interference Caused by Microwave Oven

Re: [PSES] Interference Caused by Microwave Oven

2015-05-15 Thread Douglas Smith
Subject: Re: [PSES] Interference Caused by Microwave Oven This isn't a particularly helpful contribution, but when I use my microwave (used correctly, with the door closed), my Bluetooth

Re: [PSES] Interference Caused by Microwave Oven

2015-05-15 Thread Ken Javor
From: Michael Derby micha...@acbcert.com Reply-To: Michael Derby micha...@acbcert.com Date: Fri, 15 May 2015 08:02:00 +0100 To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: Re: [PSES] Interference Caused by Microwave Oven This isn't a particularly helpful contribution, but when I use my microwave

Re: [PSES] Interference Caused by Microwave Oven

2015-05-15 Thread dward
that the e-mail or attachments(s) are free from computer virus or other defect. Thank you. -Original Message- From: Ken Javor [mailto:ken.ja...@emccompliance.com] Sent: Friday, May 15, 2015 12:16 PM To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: Re: [PSES] Interference Caused by Microwave Oven And I'm

Re: [PSES] Interference Caused by Microwave Oven

2015-05-15 Thread Grasso, Charles
...@pctestlab.com] Sent: Friday, May 15, 2015 1:34 PM To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: Re: [PSES] Interference Caused by Microwave Oven Sinicism - a word made up from Latin for Chinese (sinicus) and Greek for belief, ideology or style (ism). Meaning - a Chinese method or style extended meaning

Re: [PSES] Interference Caused by Microwave Oven

2015-05-15 Thread dward
. -Original Message- From: John Woodgate [mailto:j...@jmwa.demon.co.uk] Sent: Friday, May 15, 2015 9:04 AM To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: Re: [PSES] Interference Caused by Microwave Oven In message 001001d08f24$621e6c60$265b4520$@pctestlab.com, dated Fri, 15 May 2015, dward dw

Re: [PSES] Interference Caused by Microwave Oven

2015-05-15 Thread dward
To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: Re: [PSES] Interference Caused by Microwave Oven In message 002701d08f2c$fbcc7d40$f36577c0$@pctestlab.com, dated Fri, 15 May 2015, dward dw...@pctestlab.com writes: The fact that this seems an anomaly says the Bayesian probability is satisfied by reason

Re: [PSES] Interference Caused by Microwave Oven

2015-05-15 Thread dward
Subject: Re: [PSES] Interference Caused by Microwave Oven Hmm -odd - It's not in my dictionary - or online! Best Regards Charles Grasso Compliance Engineer Echostar Communications (w) 303-706-5467 (c) 303-204-2974 (t) 3032042...@vtext.com (e) charles.gra...@echostar.com (e2) chasgra...@gmail.com

Re: [PSES] Interference Caused by Microwave Oven

2015-05-15 Thread Ken Javor
Clever etymology, but incorrect, at least politically. Ken Javor Phone: (256) 650-5261 From: dward dw...@pctestlab.com Date: Fri, 15 May 2015 12:34:04 -0700 To: 'Ken Javor' ken.ja...@emccompliance.com, EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: RE: [PSES] Interference Caused by Microwave Oven

Re: [PSES] Interference Caused by Microwave Oven

2015-05-15 Thread dward
, 2015 12:34 PM To: 'Ken Javor'; 'EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG' Subject: RE: [PSES] Interference Caused by Microwave Oven Sinicism - a word made up from Latin for Chinese (sinicus) and Greek for belief, ideology or style (ism). Meaning - a Chinese method or style extended meaning - a certain negative

Re: [PSES] Interference Caused by Microwave Oven

2015-05-15 Thread Ken Wyatt
Derby micha...@acbcert.com Date: Fri, 15 May 2015 08:02:00 +0100 To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: Re: [PSES] Interference Caused by Microwave Oven This isn't a particularly helpful contribution, but when I use my microwave (used correctly, with the door closed), my Bluetooth speaker

Re: [PSES] Interference Caused by Microwave Oven

2015-05-15 Thread Ken Javor
I can't wait for the response to this post! Ken Javor Phone: (256) 650-5261 From: dward dw...@pctestlab.com Reply-To: dward dw...@pctestlab.com Date: Fri, 15 May 2015 10:33:26 -0700 To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: Re: [PSES] Interference Caused by Microwave Oven May your

Re: [PSES] Interference Caused by Microwave Oven

2015-05-15 Thread John Woodgate
In message 002701d08f2c$fbcc7d40$f36577c0$@pctestlab.com, dated Fri, 15 May 2015, dward dw...@pctestlab.com writes: The fact that this seems an anomaly says the Bayesian probability is satisfied by reason and uniformity - that being, there are more satisfactorily operating devices than

Re: [PSES] Interference Caused by Microwave Oven

2015-05-14 Thread Brian Oconnell
Subject: [PSES] Interference Caused by Microwave Oven All, Today Interference Technology published on their website, Astronomers Discover 17-Year Interference Caused by Microwave Oven Link: http://www.interferencetechnology.com/astronomers-discover-17-year-interference-caused-by-microwave-oven

Re: [PSES] Interference Caused by Microwave Oven

2015-05-14 Thread Ken Javor
: Doug Powell doug...@gmail.com Reply-To: Doug Powell doug...@gmail.com Date: Thu, 14 May 2015 16:18:16 -0600 To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: [PSES] Interference Caused by Microwave Oven All, Today Interference Technology published on their website, Astronomers Discover 17-Year

[PSES] Interference Caused by Microwave Oven

2015-05-14 Thread Doug Powell
All, Today Interference Technology published on their website, Astronomers Discover 17-Year Interference Caused by Microwave Oven Link:

Re: [PSES] Interference Caused by Microwave Oven

2015-05-14 Thread CR
On 5/14/2015 6:58 PM, Ken Javor wrote: why doesn’t the rf shut off when the door is opened? And a second one: why was it deemed worthy of publishing an article that a microwave oven interfered with data collection since 1988? It does, but probably not instantly. Just guessing, but ... A

Re: [PSES] Interference Caused by Microwave Oven

2015-05-14 Thread Brian Oconnell
Message- From: Ken Javor [mailto:ken.ja...@emccompliance.com] Sent: Thursday, May 14, 2015 4:26 PM To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: Re: [PSES] Interference Caused by Microwave Oven Newsworthy indeed, but hardly something to self-promote through publication! And I would think

Re: [PSES] Interference Caused by Microwave Oven

2015-05-14 Thread Ken Javor
the seal. Ken Javor Phone: (256) 650-5261 From: CR k...@earthlink.net Reply-To: k...@earthlink.net Date: Thu, 14 May 2015 19:21:42 -0400 To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: Re: [PSES] Interference Caused by Microwave Oven On 5/14/2015 6:58 PM, Ken Javor wrote: why doesn¹t the rf shut