RE: Acoustic noise calculations for multiple shelves

2003-01-24 Thread Chris Maxwell
>FROM A PREVIOUS EPISODE OF "AS THE DB TURNS" But in the end it doesn't matter, does it? A dB is a dB. An increase in SPL of 6 dB is the same as an increase in sound power of 6 dB. Just like a 6dB change in voltage results in a 6dB change in power. Wonderful things, th

RE: Acoustic noise calculations for multiple shelves

2003-01-24 Thread drcuthbert
drcuthbert [mailto:drcuthb...@micron.com] Sent: Thursday, January 23, 2003 8:51 AM To: 'Hudson, Alan'; EMC-pstc (E-mail) Subject: RE: Acoustic noise calculations for multiple shelves Alan, here is a definition of dBa: dBa: Abbreviation for decibels adjusted. Weighted absolute noise pow

RE: Acoustic noise calculations for multiple shelves

2003-01-23 Thread Chris Maxwell
;uV/m" means "micro-Volt per meter") To be clear, I would have to say that was thinking in terms of dBpw/m^^2:-) > -Original Message- > From: drcuthbert [SMTP:drcuthb...@micron.com] > Sent: Thursday, January 23, 2003 10:51 AM > To: 'Hudson, Alan'

RE: Acoustic noise calculations for multiple shelves

2003-01-23 Thread JP Hare
ource there is a 3dB difference when doubling/halving distances. Good luck, Paul Hare From: owner-emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org [mailto:owner-emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org]On Behalf Of Hudson, Alan Sent: Thursday, January 23, 2003 4:15 AM To: EMC-pstc (E-mail) Subject: RE: Acoustic noise calculations

RE: Acoustic noise calculations for multiple shelves

2003-01-23 Thread drcuthbert
: Thursday, January 23, 2003 2:15 AM To: EMC-pstc (E-mail) Subject: RE: Acoustic noise calculations for multiple shelves John Woodgate wrote: > The noises are uncorrelated (largely), so you add 3 dB, not 6. Now I'm confused! I always thought it was noise *level* (similar to voltage level) n

RE: Acoustic noise calculations for multiple shelves

2003-01-23 Thread Hudson, Alan
John Woodgate wrote: > The noises are uncorrelated (largely), so you add 3 dB, not 6. Now I'm confused! I always thought it was noise *level* (similar to voltage level) not noise *power*, and hence it was 20*log(ratio) not 10*log(ratio). So I've been using 6dB for doubling noise, not 3dB. I'll n

RE: Acoustic noise calculations for multiple shelves

2003-01-22 Thread drcuthbert
tandard or for operator comfort? Dave Cuthbert Micron Tech From: Ken Javor [mailto:ken.ja...@emccompliance.com] Sent: Wednesday, January 22, 2003 10:56 AM To: Luttrell, Lyle; 'Gandler, Mark'; emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org Subject: Re: Acoustic noise calculations for multiple shelve

RE: Acoustic noise calculations for multiple shelves (Correction)

2003-01-22 Thread Chris Maxwell
2:56 PM > To: Luttrell, Lyle; 'Gandler, Mark'; emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org > Subject: Re: Acoustic noise calculations for multiple shelves > > > I would further amplify on this comment. It is not just a 10 log vs. 20 log > calculation. Sound power is the quantity o

Re: Acoustic noise calculations for multiple shelves

2003-01-22 Thread Ken Javor
p...@majordomo.ieee.org >Subject: RE: Acoustic noise calculations for multiple shelves >Date: Wed, Jan 22, 2003, 9:23 AM > > > Mark, > You need to know what type of level you are working with. > Sound power level (re 1pW) of multiple sources is straightforward: 10*log(n) > = 13

RE: Acoustic noise calculations for multiple shelves

2003-01-22 Thread Gandler, Mark
Subject: RE: Acoustic noise calculations for multiple shelves Mark, You need to know what type of level you are working with. Sound power level (re 1pW) of multiple sources is straightforward: 10*log(n) = 13 dB for n=20. This is essentially independent of measurement environment. Sound pressure

RE: Acoustic noise calculations for multiple shelves

2003-01-22 Thread Luttrell, Lyle
calculations for multiple shelves Hello Group! Imagine you are going to install 20 small chassis (shelves) in one rack in Central Office. If you know your acoustic noise level from one chassis, is it any way to calculate total noise? Sorry, if it is not the smartest question. Please reply!!! Need

RE: Acoustic noise calculations for multiple shelves

2003-01-22 Thread Chris Maxwell
I saw a posting which said add 6dB for a factor of 2. That is incorrect; when you are dealing with sound. My apologies to this poster; no disrespect intended. When dealing with sound and power, add 3dB for a factor of two. A factor of two only works out to 6dB if you are dealing with voltage

Re: Acoustic noise calculations for multiple shelves

2003-01-22 Thread John Woodgate
I read in !emc-pstc that Neil Helsby wrote (in <20030122.8281...@mis.configured.host>) about 'Acoustic noise calculations for multiple shelves' on Wed, 22 Jan 2003: >The simple answer is that the result will be logarithmic – double the >noise and you add 6 dB. The n

Re: Acoustic noise calculations for multiple shelves

2003-01-22 Thread Neil Helsby
The simple answer is that the result will be logarithmic – double the noise and you add 6 dB. In practice it probably isn't and neither will the on-site result when compared to your office measurements unless all conditions are identical. We measure the audio noise (mainly from fans) from our

RE: Acoustic noise calculations for multiple shelves

2003-01-22 Thread JP Hare
emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org Subject: Acoustic noise calculations for multiple shelves Hello Group! Imagine you are going to install 20 small chassis (shelves) in one rack in Central Office. If you know your acoustic noise level from one chassis, is it any way to calculate total noise? Sorry, if it is no

Acoustic noise calculations for multiple shelves

2003-01-21 Thread Gandler, Mark
Hello Group! Imagine you are going to install 20 small chassis (shelves) in one rack in Central Office. If you know your acoustic noise level from one chassis, is it any way to calculate total noise? Sorry, if it is not the smartest question. Please reply!!! Need an answer!!! Thanks, Mark Gandler