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After a few e-mails and one telephone call, I submit the following.
ยง2.10.3.3:
A very simple edit to the text is being proposed to make the application of
Table 2K and 2L clear. Specifically
2.10.3.3 of EN 60950-1:2006
From: Tarver, Peter
Sent: Friday, June 29, 2007 12:00 PM
Man, did I mess this up. See my corrections, below.
For an AC MAINS SUPPLY not exceeding 300 V r.m.s. (420 V peak):
b) if the PEAK WORKING VOLTAGE exceeds the peak value of the
AC MAINS SUPPLY voltage
From: Tarver, Peter
Sent: Friday, June 29, 2007 12:00 PM
Man, did I mess this up. See my corrections, below.
For an AC MAINS SUPPLY not exceeding 300 V r.m.s. (420 V peak):
b) if the PEAK WORKING VOLTAGE exceeds the peak value of the
AC MAINS SUPPLY voltage, ...
If we have an ac
From: Aldous, Scott
Sent: Friday, June 29, 2007 9:48 AM
Looking over the two versions of the standard, I can see that you're
correctly interpreting the 1st ed., but the 2nd ed. text changed things
all over the place in the insulation area. I don't know if that was
MT2's intent, but that's
Thanks Peter for your comments. Mine interspersed below.
Scott Aldous
Compliance Engineer
Advanced Energy
Tel: 970-407-6872
Fax: 970-407-5872
I wonder what peak working voltage should be used in table 2K
- the actual peak voltage or the peak voltage based on the
mains rms voltage?
From: Aldous, Scott
Sent: Friday, June 29, 2007 8:56 AM
Bummer - I was referring to an older version of the IEC
standard (60950-1:2001).
I kinda thought something like that. With the 2nd ed of IEC 60950-1, the
clearance and creepage distances went through a huge rewrite.
I wonder what
, June 29, 2007 9:36 AM
To: srichard...@blackwood-labs.co.uk; emc-p...@ieee.org
Subject: RE: Clause 2.10.3.3 of EN 60950-1:2006
Good morning, Scott.
From: Aldous, Scott
Sent: Friday, June 29, 2007 8:18 AM
Table 2L is for minimum creepage distances, not clearance.
I don't know which version of EN
Good morning, Scott.
From: Aldous, Scott
Sent: Friday, June 29, 2007 8:18 AM
Table 2L is for minimum creepage distances, not clearance.
I don't know which version of EN 60950-1 you're referring to, but in the
2006 version, Table 2L most certainly applies to clearances.
I see nothing in
From: Nick Williams
Sent: Friday, June 29, 2007 5:21 AM
Compare the two scenarios...
1. Say mains is 230V, i.e. below 300V so add clearances from
Table 2K
and 2L. Say peak working voltage is 840V. Clearance is 6.4+1.2=7.6mm
From Table 2K, for a 840 Vpk working voltage across some bit
...@ieee.org
Subject: RE: Clause 2.10.3.3 of EN 60950-1:2006
Hi Nick,
As I see it the clearance would be calculated as follows;
Scenario 1
Mains voltage = 230V (mains transient voltage is 2500V) giving a
clearance of 4.0 mm (table 2K) for reinforced, plus the additional
clearance of table 2L
Hi Nick,
As I see it the clearance would be calculated as follows;
Scenario 1
Mains voltage = 230V (mains transient voltage is 2500V) giving a
clearance of 4.0 mm (table 2K) for reinforced, plus the additional
clearance of table 2L for a PWV of 840V which would be 1.2 mm (ignoring
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