RE: harmonics testing

2003-05-28 Thread drcuthb...@micron.com
Another fix is to run your system components off of a UPS. Dave Cuthbert Micron Technology From: John Woodgate [mailto:j...@jmwa.demon.co.uk] Sent: Friday, May 23, 2003 12:06 AM To: emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org Subject: Re: harmonics testing I read in !emc-pstc that Brian Epstein

Re: harmonics testing

2003-05-23 Thread John Woodgate
I read in !emc-pstc that Brian Epstein brian.epst...@veeco.com wrote (in 41c71af75675d54bb97c2fadcae7f994260...@exchange.di.com) about 'harmonics testing' on Fri, 23 May 2003: That raises and interesting question. The components are not in a rack or case, they are tabletop mounted. I would

RE: harmonics testing

2003-05-23 Thread Brian Epstein
Engineer Veeco Instruments 112 Robin Hill Rd Santa Barbara CA 93117 805-967-2700 x2315 brian.epst...@veeco.com mailto:brian.epst...@veeco.com From: ssel...@yorkemc.co.uk [mailto:ssel...@yorkemc.co.uk] Sent: Friday, May 23, 2003 2:08 AM To: emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org Subject: Re: harmonics testing

Re: harmonics testing

2003-05-23 Thread John Woodgate
I read in !emc-pstc that ssel...@yorkemc.co.uk wrote (in E19J8TQ- 000cv7...@anchor-post-31.mail.demon.net) about 'harmonics testing' on Fri, 23 May 2003: Brian/John I notice that EN61000-3-2(2000) para 6.3 says Where individual self contained items are installed in a rack or case, they are

Re: harmonics testing

2003-05-23 Thread ssel...@yorkemc.co.uk
Brian/John I notice that EN61000-3-2(2000) para 6.3 says Where individual self contained items are installed in a rack or case, they are regarded as being individually connected to the mains supply. The rack or case need not be tested as a whole. So, is it a rackfull of systems, or a system

Re: harmonics testing

2003-05-23 Thread John Woodgate
I read in !emc-pstc that Brian Epstein brian.epst...@veeco.com wrote (in 41c71af75675d54bb97c2fadcae7f994260...@exchange.di.com) about 'harmonics testing' on Thu, 22 May 2003: We make a product that has several components that plug into the power mains including a computer, two monitors, and two

Re: Harmonics Testing for PCs

2003-02-23 Thread Eric George
Rick: Sounds like the harmonics are adding or canceling as the case may be. Check to see if the offending harmonics are triplen or other harmonics. The high harmonics are sometimes tricky in the way they behave. Harmonics are always a function of the AC supply impedance. I would suspect

Re: Harmonics Testing for PCs

2003-02-21 Thread John Woodgate
I read in !emc-pstc that Lesmeister, Glenn glenn.lesmeis...@hp.com wrote (in 31891b757c09184bbfec5275f85d559502d1d...@cceexc18.americas.cp qcorp.net) about 'Harmonics Testing for PCs' on Thu, 20 Feb 2003: The problem with class A limits is that the higher your power draw, the lower your

Re: Harmonics Testing for PCs

2003-02-21 Thread John Woodgate
I read in !emc-pstc that rbus...@es.com wrote (in B47A89AEC4538744B9D94 bad7e78efc7458...@torino.corp.es.com) about 'Harmonics Testing for PCs' on Thu, 20 Feb 2003: As for the limits, we are using A. I understand that D is used exclusively for ITE and has tighter limits. You said that the

RE: Harmonics Testing for PCs

2003-02-20 Thread Lesmeister, Glenn
, Glenn; emc-p...@ieee.org Subject:RE: Harmonics Testing for PCs The PDU (power distribution network) provides 4-5 outlets per phase. We try to balance based on current loads rather than qty of cords. The graphics processor draws significantly more current per cord than the PCs

Re: Harmonics Testing for PCs

2003-02-20 Thread John Woodgate
I read in !emc-pstc that rbus...@es.com wrote (in B47A89AEC4538744B9D94 bad7e78efc7454...@torino.corp.es.com) about 'Harmonics Testing for PCs' on Thu, 20 Feb 2003: During the Harmonics test (EN 61000-3-2) the system failed harmonics. Testing all of the peripherals individually, they all passed.

RE: Harmonics Testing for PCs

2003-02-20 Thread rbus...@es.com
and has tighter limits. From: Lesmeister, Glenn [mailto:glenn.lesmeis...@hp.com] Sent: Thursday, February 20, 2003 3:23 PM To: Rick Busche; emc-p...@ieee.org Subject: RE: Harmonics Testing for PCs Rick, You don't indicate how all of the other components are wired in the power distribution

RE: Harmonics Testing for PCs

2003-02-20 Thread Lesmeister, Glenn
Rick, You don't indicate how all of the other components are wired in the power distribution system. If you are balancing all load on the 3 phases, but only have 2 cords for the graphics controller, you must have something else picking up the slack on the 3rd phase. Are there any other

RE: Harmonics Testing

2000-01-25 Thread cetest
PM To: cet...@cetest.nl Cc: emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org Subject: RE: Harmonics Testing Gert, Does this imply that the current revision will be withdrawn before it becomes mandatory for CE-marking? If so, how does this affect CE-Marking requirements in the 1-1-2001 to 1-1-2003 timeframe? Can you

Re: Harmonics Testing

2000-01-19 Thread Rich Nute
Hello from San Diego: Classifying products according to EN 61000-3-2 is not straight-forward. A product with the special waveshape (i.e., the waveshape created by a rectifier-capacitor circuit of a switching-mode or linear power supply) is Class D. A product with input current waveform

RE: Harmonics Testing

2000-01-19 Thread Barry Ma
Actually I had the same question as what Randy raised hear. I felt confused when trying to classify my EUT below 50W input power as Class A or Class D. Thanks for the clarification made by Gert. I was wondering why I could not have found the answer in Fig. 2 Flow-chart for classification of

RE: Harmonics Testing

2000-01-19 Thread cetest
month UAP procedure: acceptance 7 or 8/2000 Publication OJEC winter 2001. Transaction time probably 2 years. Regards Gert Gremmen -Original Message- From: rehel...@mmm.com [mailto:rehel...@mmm.com] Sent: Wednesday, January 19, 2000 11:32 AM To: cetest Subject: RE: Harmonics Testing

RE: Harmonics Testing

2000-01-19 Thread reheller
'emc-pstc' emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org cc:(bcc: Robert E. Heller/US-Corporate/3M/US) Subject: RE: Harmonics Testing I suppose Randy you are concerned about the EN-61000-3-2 instead of the EN 61000-3-3 which is concerned with Flicker testing. Please Note that the 3-2 is currently under

Re: Harmonics Testing

2000-01-18 Thread Bruce Touzel
Gert, Is 3-2 applicable to power supplies of 50W in Jan 1, 2001 ? Or is it still 75W in Jan 1, 2001, then 4 years later changed to 50W ? thanks Bruce cetest wrote: I suppose Randy you are concerned about the EN-61000-3-2 instead of the EN 61000-3-3 which is concerned with Flicker testing.

RE: Harmonics Testing

2000-01-18 Thread Pettit, Ghery
Randall, First, the standard is IEC (or EN) 61000-3-2, not -3. Article 5 defines Class D products as those Equipment having an input current with a special wave shape as defined in figure 1 and an active input power, P= 600 W, measured under the test conditions given in the relevant clause of