Just curious, but? (re: Shiep rules)

1997-01-13 Thread Grant . Pinto
Just curious, but what is a Shiep?

RE: LOW COST mesurement equipment. (Was Shiep rules)

1997-01-10 Thread Bas van Rossem
Paul Rampelbergh wrote: 4. It seems there is'nt a problem to construct Log-periodic antenna's. Construction data is available. Do not require special items as ballun's, etc. It seems more difficult to have data and to build Bi-conical or simular antenna's. Anybody can help? How

Re[6]: Shiep rules

1997-01-09 Thread Cortland . Richmond-CC
Chris, The blame for standards can be assessed everywhere. But you posted: ...how we stood by and let the power generating industry make the consumer responsible for the supply quality. The problem here is that the industry can't control what we hang on the line. Remember Tungar (TM)

Re[6]: Shiep rules

1997-01-09 Thread tania . grant
__ Reply Separator _ Subject: Re: Re[4]: Shiep rules Author: hans_mellb...@non-hp-santaclara-om4.om.hp.com at P_Internet_Mail List-Post: emc-pstc@listserv.ieee.org Date:1/8/97 5:00 PM ok,ok, let's not forget how the original EMC rules got about. I heard, long

Re[4]: Shiep rules

1997-01-08 Thread Cortland . Richmond-CC
Chris, Here my natural cynicism comes out... In this business we all get cynical. The reduction in Electronic Fog in our universe is a secondary effect Here we disagree. CISPR-12 was based on actual interference tests using real people as subjects. The standard, which was

Re: LOW COST mesurement equipment. (Was Shiep rules)

1997-01-07 Thread Gabriel Roy/HNS
For REALLY low cost test equipment for use during the developmental stage, refer to Dr. Keenan's book Digital Design for Interference Specification Section 6.3. This is something one can build himself, uses a dipole made of 300 ohm TV antenna, an FM radio as the receiver, a signal generator,

Re: Re[2]: Shiep rules

1997-01-07 Thread Chris Dupres
Date: 05 Jan 97 20:35:39 EST Hi Cortland. You wrote: Don't you agree it is fair to have one set of laws for everyone? Don't you agree we should be able to listen to radio even if the neigbhor turns on his computer? Here my natural cynicism comes out... Don't lose sight of

Re: Re[2]: Shiep rules

1997-01-06 Thread Cortland Richmond
: 04-Jan-97 23:02:10 MsgID: 1039-126606 ToID: 72146,373 From: Paul Rampelbergh INTERNET:rampelberg...@infoboard.be Subj: Re[2]: Shiep rules Chrg: $0.00 Imp: Norm Sens: StdReceipt: NoType: Text Sender: owner-emc-p...@mail.ieee.org Received: from ruebert.ieee.org (ruebert.ieee.org

Re: LOW COST mesurement equipment. (Was Shiep rules)

1997-01-05 Thread Paul Rampelbergh
Hello, Interesting approach but a few errors are slip in your comments who jeopardize the creditability, on purpose or not, of alternate solutions. Criticism is easy, I prefer on this subject constructively. I understand when you are directly involved and have financial interests with and due

Re[2]: Shiep rules

1997-01-05 Thread Paul Rampelbergh
cortland.richmond...@ccmailsmtp.ast.com wrote: While not losing sight of the reason why regulations exist, let's also remember that if we don't participate in making them, we can only complain afterwards about their impact OK, OK, OK Cortland, Now at least

Re: LOW COST mesurement equipment. (Was Shiep rules)

1997-01-04 Thread Cortland . Richmond-CC
for engineering purposes Regards, Cortland __ Reply Separator _ Subject: LOW COST mesurement equipment. (Was Shiep rules) Author: Paul Rampelbergh rampelberg...@infoboard.be at internet List-Post: emc-pstc@listserv.ieee.org Date:1/1/97

Re[2]: Shiep rules

1997-01-04 Thread Cortland . Richmond-CC
the requirements are necessary not just blindly accept everything. I applaud the people who question and probe the real need for requirements. Dave George Unisys Corp. -- From: owner-emc-pstc To: IEEE PSTMC Subject: Re: Shiep rules Date: Sunday, December 22, 1996 1:18PM Return

Re[2]: Shiep rules

1997-01-04 Thread Cortland . Richmond-CC
those of my employer. __ Reply Separator _ Subject: Re: Shiep rules Author: Ron Fotino fot...@ctron.com at internet List-Post: emc-pstc@listserv.ieee.org Date:1/3/97 13:21 George, David L TR wrote: Maybe you

Re: Shiep rules

1997-01-03 Thread Ron Fotino
George, David L TR wrote: Maybe you are not sympathetic but you should be. EMC means eliminate minor companies. The way the rules are developed in many cases have little to do with the actual importance of the issue. Comparing regulatory requirements to the rules of physics is like

Re: Shiep rules

1997-01-01 Thread Paul Rampelbergh
Dear Hans, hans_mellb...@non-hp-santaclara-om4.om.hp.com wrote: The proper authority in Belgium is not the Postal . etc., but rather the Comite Electrotechnique Belge (+32-2-556 0110) They will tell you how to own test equipment legally. They are the official Belgian representative of the

Re: Shiep rules

1997-01-01 Thread Cortland Richmond
Hello Paul, Now to come back on the EMC subject, the same parallel problems exist with CENELEC. They don't have to justify they're action, they impose CE rules with different requirements than other countries. WHY? What justify this? Paul, emission standards you have to meet are