Re: EMSCAN (was TV nostalgia/EMI sniffer goggle)

2001-08-09 Thread Lfresearch
Alas, you forget that there is a world outside of PC's and Coms;- Derek. --- This message is from the IEEE EMC Society Product Safety Technical Committee emc-pstc discussion list. Visit our web site at: http://www.ewh.ieee.org/soc/emcs/pstc/ To can

Re: EMSCAN (was TV nostalgia/EMI sniffer goggle)

2001-08-09 Thread John Woodgate
<14.184d3188.28a40...@aol.com>, lfresea...@aol.com inimitably wrote: >the >component side has too great a skyline to give good results. Not these days! Anything more than 5 mm tall and the product won't fit in your pocket. *Everything* has to fit in your pocket(;-) -- Regards, John Woodgate, O

Re: EMSCAN (was TV nostalgia/EMI sniffer goggle)

2001-08-09 Thread Lfresearch
Hi all, I have an EMScan system that I used for debugging boards. I have mixed feelings, but for somethings it really helps. If anyone would like their board scanned to see if it would help them, let me know off line: I'm really cheap;- As for high frequency, the resolution of the grid is

Re: EMSCAN (was TV nostalgia/EMI sniffer goggle)

2001-08-08 Thread Frank Krozel
RE: EMSCAN (was TV nostalgia/EMI sniffer goggle) - Original Message - From: Frank Krozel To: George Stults ; 'Ehler, Kyle' ; 'Ken Javor' ; emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org Sent: Wednesday, August 08, 2001 12:17 PM Subject: Re: EMSCAN (was TV nostalgia/EMI sniffer goggle)

Re: EMSCAN (was TV nostalgia/EMI sniffer goggle)

2001-08-08 Thread Frank Krozel
RE: EMSCAN (was TV nostalgia/EMI sniffer goggle)Hi George: You are most correct the earlier units did only have frequency coverage to 1.0Ghz, but the newer units go up to 2.7Ghz. Frank Krozel Frank Krozel TEL: 630-924-1600 FAX: 630-924-1668 MOBILE: 630-258-5421 (24/7) TEL: 630-653-9090 Home

Re: EMSCAN (was TV nostalgia/EMI sniffer goggle)

2001-08-08 Thread Noiseless
little over 1GHz on the top end at that time. We didn’t buy > it, because we had harmonics above 1 GHz. > > -George > > -Original Message- > From: Ehler, Kyle [mailto:keh...@lsil.com] > Sent: Tuesday, August 07, 2001 12:24 PM > To: 'Ken Javor'; emc-

RE: EMSCAN (was TV nostalgia/EMI sniffer goggle)

2001-08-08 Thread George Stults
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RE: EMSCAN (was TV nostalgia/EMI sniffer goggle)

2001-08-07 Thread Ehler, Kyle
eadings. btw I dont work for, or have any connection with, EMSCAN. kyle -Original Message- From: Ken Javor [mailto:ken.ja...@emccompliance.com] Sent: Monday, August 06, 2001 5:58 PM To: John Woodgate; emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org Subject: Re: TV nostalgia You could use an array of very s

History of 60Hz (TV Nostalgia)

2001-08-07 Thread rbusche
In a recent response of "TV Nostalgia" Dale Svetanoff suggested a link to the Antique Wireless Association http://www.antiquewireless.org/ Looking through this link I was fascinated by some of the early issues regarding electronic devices power with tubes. Additionally there was

RE: TV nostalgia

2001-08-07 Thread dgsvetan
vetanoff Rockwell Collins rbus...@es.com@majordomo.ieee.org on 08/03/2001 04:02:21 PM Please respond to rbus...@es.com Sent by: owner-emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org To: emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org cc: Subject: RE: TV nostalgia How about the reported X-Ray emissions from the old high volt

RE: TV nostalgia

2001-08-07 Thread Ehler, Kyle
-Original Message- From: John Woodgate [mailto:j...@jmwa.demon.co.uk] Sent: Monday, August 06, 2001 12:29 PM To: emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org Subject: Re: TV nostalgia <95fbd8b0830ed511b7720002a51363f1319...@exw-ks.ks.lsil.com>, Ehler, Kyle inimitably wrote: >Doug has touched

Re: TV nostalgia

2001-08-07 Thread John Woodgate
<20010806225804.SIIR21723.femail41.sdc1.sfba.home.com@[65.11.150.27]>, Ken Javor inimitably wrote: >You could use an array of very short dipoles or small loops and gain in >resolution by giving up efficiency, meaning that the viewer would have to be >near the source. Well, very short dipoles c

RE: TV nostalgia

2001-08-07 Thread Chris Chileshe
he IC!) the emissions were coming from! Check out http://www.etsi.co.uk Best regards - Chris -Original Message- From: Ehler, Kyle [SMTP:keh...@lsil.com] Sent: Monday, August 06, 2001 2:08 PM To: 'Doug McKean'; EMC-PSTC Discussion Group Subject:RE: TV nostalgi

Re: TV nostalgia

2001-08-06 Thread Ken Javor
PCB and the device maps hot spots. But clearly you will never get optical or IR viewer resolutions. -- >From: John Woodgate >To: emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org >Subject: Re: TV nostalgia >Date: Mon, Aug 6, 2001, 12:28 PM > > > <95fbd8b0830ed511b7720002a51363f1319...@ex

RE: TV nostalgia - Be Careful What You Wish For!

2001-08-06 Thread Scott Lacey
lso harass on a per sample basis in situ mfg. product. -kyle, KC0IQE -Original Message- From: Doug McKean [mailto:dmck...@corp.auspex.com] Sent: Friday, August 03, 2001 8:40 PM To: EMC-PSTC Discussion Group Subject: Re: TV nostalgia Now, if we could just train ou

Re: TV nostalgia

2001-08-06 Thread John Woodgate
<95fbd8b0830ed511b7720002a51363f1319...@exw-ks.ks.lsil.com>, Ehler, Kyle inimitably wrote: >Doug has touched on what I think would be a great tool for the >EMI hunter...but rather than a 'sniffer', a 'goggle' similar >to what Geordi wears that facilitates the direct viewing of EM ra

RE: TV nostalgia

2001-08-06 Thread rbusche
] Sent: Monday, August 06, 2001 8:28 AM To: emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org Subject: RE: TV nostalgia >-Original Message- >From: Rich Nute [mailto:ri...@sdd.hp.com] >Sent: Thursday, August 02, 2001 3:36 PM >To: emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org >Subject: TV nostalgia > >

RE: TV nostalgia

2001-08-06 Thread Price, Ed
>-Original Message- >From: Rich Nute [mailto:ri...@sdd.hp.com] >Sent: Thursday, August 02, 2001 3:36 PM >To: emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org >Subject: TV nostalgia > > > > > > >Okay... more nostalgia and a bit on safety >back in those days... s

RE: TV nostalgia

2001-08-06 Thread Ehler, Kyle
u mfg. product. -kyle, KC0IQE -Original Message- From: Doug McKean [mailto:dmck...@corp.auspex.com] Sent: Friday, August 03, 2001 8:40 PM To: EMC-PSTC Discussion Group Subject: Re: TV nostalgia Now, if we could just train ourselves to sniff out some of those pesky EMI problems ... - Doug McKean

Re: TV nostalgia

2001-08-04 Thread John Woodgate
<200108032155.raa05...@interlock2.lexmark.com>, oover...@lexmark.com inimitably wrote: >Ever notice how connected one's memory and smells are connected? >Think about the number of things, both good and bad, that particular smells >recall. Nerves from the nose go to a very primitive part of the bra

Re: TV nostalgia

2001-08-04 Thread Doug McKean
> I have noticed several responses related to the smell of the old equipment. > I had been thinking the very same thing. > > You could trouble-shoot by the type of smell a failed component produced (cap > vs. resistor, vs choke, etc.) > > Ever notice how connected one's memory and smells are conne

Re: TV nostalgia

2001-08-04 Thread Ralph Cameron
Subject: RE: TV nostalgia I have noticed several responses related to the smell of the old equipment. I had been thinking the very same thing. You could trouble-shoot by the type of smell a failed component produced (cap vs. resistor, vs choke, etc.) Ever notice how connected one's m

Re: TV nostalgia

2001-08-03 Thread John Woodgate
<95fbd8b0830ed511b7720002a51363f1319...@exw-ks.ks.lsil.com>, Ehler, Kyle inimitably wrote: >If they were'nt 'hand wired' who/what would have wired the chassis? >robots? chimpanzees? Chimpanzees have hands - four of them, really. The implication was that sets that were not hand-wired were assembl

RE: TV nostalgia

2001-08-03 Thread ooverton
he%es@interlock.lexmark.com To: emc-pstc%majordomo.ieee@interlock.lexmark.com cc:(bcc: Oscar Overton/Lex/Lexmark) Subject: RE: TV nostalgia How about the reported X-Ray emissions from the old high voltage regulators and the 25-35KV anode voltages? Those old color sets were beasts. It is interesti

RE: TV nostalgia

2001-08-03 Thread Pettit, Ghery
ssage- From: Ehler, Kyle [mailto:keh...@lsil.com] Sent: Friday, August 03, 2001 1:38 PM To: 'Ralph Cameron'; 'EMC and Safety list' Subject: RE: TV nostalgia Which reminds me of other oddball video contraptions. A few years back I had to dispose of a Heathkit GR-2000 25" TV w

RE: TV nostalgia

2001-08-03 Thread rbusche
x27;s something pleasant (or nostalgic) about the smell of a tube type radio or TV. Perhaps it's just my age. Rick Busche -Original Message- From: Ehler, Kyle [mailto:keh...@lsil.com] Sent: Friday, August 03, 2001 2:38 PM To: 'Ralph Cameron'; 'EMC and Safety list&#

RE: TV nostalgia

2001-08-03 Thread Ehler, Kyle
x27;s were 94V0 and, typical of Heath products, documented more than thoroughly. Very well made! kyle -Original Message- From: Ralph Cameron [mailto:ral...@igs.net] Sent: Friday, August 03, 2001 2:41 PM To: Ehler, Kyle; 'Rich Nute'; 'EMC and Safety list' Subject: Re: TV

Re: TV nostalgia

2001-08-03 Thread Ralph Cameron
my mentor. -kyle -Original Message- From: Rich Nute [mailto:ri...@sdd.hp.com] Sent: Thursday, August 02, 2001 5:36 PM To: emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org Subject: TV nostalgia Okay... more nostalgia and a bit on safety back in those days... so that we don't

Re: TV nostalgia

2001-08-03 Thread Doug McKean
"John Woodgate" wrote: > Rich Nute wrote: > >In the mid-fifties, GE came out with a > >transformerless 17-inch TV. One side of > >the power line was tied to the chassis > >(2-wire plug back in those days). The > >only protection was the plastic knob on > >the shafts of the various controls. Whe

RE: TV nostalgia

2001-08-03 Thread Ehler, Kyle
If they were'nt 'hand wired' who/what would have wired the chassis? robots? chimpanzees? Its funny how the public is led to believe that accepted status quo is somehow better than an emerging technology, but then as Jack points out, paper/phenolic was the best the technology had to offer at accepta

RE: TV nostalgia

2001-08-03 Thread Ehler, Kyle
- From: Rich Nute [mailto:ri...@sdd.hp.com] Sent: Thursday, August 02, 2001 5:36 PM To: emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org Subject: TV nostalgia Okay... more nostalgia and a bit on safety back in those days... so that we don't stray too far from the subject matter of this forum. My first TV

Re: TV nostalgia

2001-08-03 Thread John Woodgate
<200108022235.paa26...@epgc196.sdd.hp.com>, Rich Nute inimitably wrote: >In the mid-fifties, GE came out with a >transformerless 17-inch TV. One side of >the power line was tied to the chassis >(2-wire plug back in those days). The >only protection was the plastic knob on >the shafts of the va

TV nostalgia

2001-08-02 Thread Rich Nute
Okay... more nostalgia and a bit on safety back in those days... so that we don't stray too far from the subject matter of this forum. My first TV was a Motorola 7-inch round in a Bakelite cabinet. The speaker was the same size as the CRT. My second was the famous RCA 10-inch round chassis w