Re: [PSES] 2nd hand or refurbished products

2016-10-31 Thread Pete Perkins
enegger, Dave [mailto:dave.nyffeneg...@bhemail.com] Sent: Monday, October 31, 2016 10:28 AM To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: Re: [PSES] 2nd hand or refurbished products But the requirements for the CE mark are that it meet the EU directives in force at the time it’s placed into mar

Re: [PSES] 2nd hand or refurbished products

2016-10-31 Thread Nyffenegger, Dave
Perkins [mailto:0061f3f32d0c-dmarc-requ...@ieee.org] Sent: Monday, October 31, 2016 12:49 PM To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: Re: [PSES] 2nd hand or refurbished products Scott, Some users of large process equipment know that the equipment will be repositioned within its

Re: [PSES] 2nd hand or refurbished products

2016-10-31 Thread Pete Perkins
lto:p.perk...@ieee.org> p.perk...@ieee.org From: Scott Xe [mailto:scott...@gmail.com] Sent: Monday, October 31, 2016 6:12 AM To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: Re: [PSES] 2nd hand or refurbished products Nick, Both situations are very rare in reality due to EU rule. In the EU market,

Re: [PSES] 2nd hand or refurbished products

2016-10-31 Thread Scott Xe
Williams <nick.willi...@conformance.co.uk> Date: Monday, 31 October 2016 at 6:24 PM To: Scott Xe <scott...@gmail.com> Cc: <EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG> Subject: Re: [PSES] 2nd hand or refurbished products Scott, Many second-hand products will have difficulty meeting cu

Re: [PSES] 2nd hand or refurbished products

2016-10-31 Thread Nick Williams
> > Cc: <EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG <mailto:EMC-PSTC@listserv.ieee.org>> > Subject: Re: [PSES] 2nd hand or refurbished products > > Funnily enough, I’ve recently been looking into this. So far as the product > safety directives are concerned, the answer is in the

Re: [PSES] 2nd hand or refurbished products

2016-10-28 Thread Scott Xe
STSERV.IEEE.ORG> Subject: RE: [PSES] 2nd hand or refurbished products This is quite complicated.  Unless it causes a major problem, assume they do apply. Second-hand and refurbished products are not treated in the same way, because second-hand products may be offered for private sale by peop

Re: [PSES] 2nd hand or refurbished products

2016-10-28 Thread Scott Xe
Hi Nick, Thanks for your useful advice! The Blue Guide’s one refers to refurbished products adequately. If imported second hand products are treated as newly introduced products into EU and thus meet the latest directives.  It seems the second hand products is unfit for this law

Re: [PSES] [EXTERNAL] Re: [PSES] 2nd hand or refurbished products

2016-10-27 Thread john Allen
2016 19:30 To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: Re: [PSES] [EXTERNAL] Re: [PSES] 2nd hand or refurbished products John Given that standards in EU have a Docopocoss, I would think that refurbished equipment can ship to and around the EU only if the current EMC and safety directives have

Re: [PSES] 2nd hand or refurbished products

2016-10-27 Thread John Woodgate
Subject: RE: [PSES] 2nd hand or refurbished products IIRC the regulations for such products are essentially that they must comply with those that were in place when they were placed on the market in the EU/EEA, and provided that they are in the “same” configuration and modification state

Re: [PSES] [EXTERNAL] Re: [PSES] 2nd hand or refurbished products

2016-10-27 Thread Gary McInturff
that would be the case for refurbished as well. From: john Allen [mailto:john_e_al...@blueyonder.co.uk] Sent: Thursday, October 27, 2016 10:49 AM To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: [EXTERNAL] Re: [PSES] 2nd hand or refurbished products IIRC the regulations for such products are essentially

Re: [PSES] 2nd hand or refurbished products

2016-10-27 Thread John Woodgate
ubject: Re: [PSES] 2nd hand or refurbished products Funnily enough, I’ve recently been looking into this. So far as the product safety directives are concerned, the answer is in the Blue Guide which says: “ Products which have been repaired or exchanged (for example following a defect), w

Re: [PSES] 2nd hand or refurbished products

2016-10-27 Thread john Allen
@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: Re: [PSES] 2nd hand or refurbished products IIRC the regulations for such products are essentially that they must comply with those that were in place when they were placed on the market in the EU/EEA, and provided that they are in the “same” configuration

Re: [PSES] 2nd hand or refurbished products

2016-10-27 Thread Nick Williams
ch as packaging directive, RoHS, REACH and > safety directives applied to 2nd hand or refurbished products? > > Thanks and regards, > > Scott - This message is from the IEEE Product Safety Engineering Society emc-

Re: [PSES] 2nd hand or refurbished products

2016-10-27 Thread john Allen
: Re: [PSES] 2nd hand or refurbished products This is quite complicated. Unless it causes a major problem, assume they do apply. Second-hand and refurbished products are not treated in the same way, because second-hand products may be offered for private sale by people who don't have all

Re: [PSES] 2nd hand or refurbished products

2016-10-27 Thread John Woodgate
This is quite complicated. Unless it causes a major problem, assume they do apply. Second-hand and refurbished products are not treated in the same way, because second-hand products may be offered for private sale by people who don't have all the necessary resources. With best wishes DESIGN

[PSES] 2nd hand or refurbished products

2016-10-27 Thread Scott Xe
Are EU chemical directives such as packaging directive, RoHS, REACH and safety directives applied to 2nd hand or refurbished products? Thanks and regards, Scott - This message is from the IEEE Product Safety Engineering

Refurbished Products to EU

2003-11-18 Thread Joe P Martin
new technology. I have a couple of questions for the group in regards to this process. 1.Will the applicable regulatory requirements of today be required, or the requirements from the original date of sale? 2.Are there any additional requirements for refurbished products? 2

RE: refurbished products

2003-02-28 Thread Juhasz, John (IndSys, GE Interlogix)
/electr_equipment/index.htm John A. Juhasz GE Interlogix Fiber Options Div. Bohemia, NY From: Brian Epstein [mailto:brian.epst...@veeco.com] Sent: Thursday, February 27, 2003 3:16 PM To: IEEE EMC Society Product Safety (E-mail) Subject: refurbished products If a customer in the European Economic

Re: refurbished products

2003-02-28 Thread John Woodgate
I read in !emc-pstc that Brian Epstein brian.epst...@veeco.com wrote (in 41c71af75675d54bb97c2fadcae7f994260...@exchange.di.com) about 'refurbished products' on Thu, 27 Feb 2003: If a customer in the European Economic Area who purchased a product before CE marking was required returns

refurbished products

2003-02-28 Thread Brian Epstein
If a customer in the European Economic Area who purchased a product before CE marking was required returns that product to the manufacturer to be refurbished, is that manufacturer required to make all modifications necessary to CE mark that product before returning it to the customer? Thanks in