Re: explanation of ESD events with coins in baggie.

1999-03-16 Thread bma
George, I think your reasoning is convincing to me. Thanks. But please allow me to pose a silly question: Are we really sure those kinds of shaking coins interferences can be categorized as ESD (Electrostatic Discharge) problem? In your experience, for instance, the screw driver did not carry

RE: EN 61326

1999-03-16 Thread Tetsuya Hashimoto
Dear Laura, Yes, you are correct. You must start the test at the zero cross points (0 and 180). Best regards, Tetsuya Hashimoto A-pex International Co.,Ltd. 2nd EMC Division Yokowa Lab E-mail: has...@a-pex.co.jp Hello Everyone, While reviewing the new EN 61326 standard I noticed that the

Re: explanation of ESD events with coins in baggie.

1999-03-16 Thread Lou Gnecco
Do you get the same effect with the coins in a cloth bag or a paper bag? Has anybody tried it? Lou At 10:57 AM 3/15/99 -0600, you wrote: Douglas, I have seen similar events in a different way. Years ago, I helped design an electronic system using plastic chassis with nickel surface plating.

Fw: EN 50021 and the EX Mark

1999-03-16 Thread ed . price
Posted for Carl Newton cwnew...@xycom.com: From: cnew...@xycom.com Subject: EN 50021 and the EX Mark Date: Mon, 15 Mar 1999 15:26:53 -0500 To: emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org Regarding Zone 2 Hazardous Locations compliance in the EU: My understanding is

RE: Argentina's Resolution 92

1999-03-16 Thread WOODS, RICHARD
UL has informed me that they have signed a MOU with IRAM. IRAM will accept test results from UL where UL has demonstrated experience with IEC standards, such as IEC 950. IRAM will even issue their mark based upon those tests. As an option for Phase II only, IRAM will accept products that bear the

Looking for a filter

1999-03-16 Thread rbusche
I have a low frequency control port that has a high frequency (300 MHz) common mode harmonic noise on all three lines. This is on an existing card with a limited amount of real-estate available. To compound the problems I am driving a unique, off-the-shelf, device with no provisions for proper

Re: explanation of ESD events with coins in baggie.

1999-03-16 Thread bma
We might have to correct a misconception of triboeletrification that we learnt from all demonstrations in schools. The myth is triboeletrification only happens to insulators. Can we try to say: Triboeletrification would cause transfer of electrons between different materials. Insulators would

UL/CSA Listings (a Clarification)

1999-03-16 Thread Art Michael
Hello All, Just had a short emailversation with Dick Pittenger regarding his response (enclosed below). We both agreed that while his response may be true in the Consumer Product world, it is not correct with respect to the Workplace (under OSHA's control); And that happens to be where Mr.

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1999-03-16 Thread pitteri
Hello Brian: Concerning your questions about the requirement for UL Listing/CSA Certification for electrical equipment used in the USA and Canada, here's my two cent's worth (this is based on 20+ years of handling submittals to both agencies): For the USA, NFPA 70 (the National Electrical

Re: UL/CSA Listings

1999-03-16 Thread ron_pickard
Hi Brian, Whizzy, eh? Well, I think that most of us resemble that remark. :-) First, UL and CSA are but two of the 17 NRTLs that are accredited by the Occupational Safety and Health Adminstration (OSHA) which is a part of the US Department of Labor. Anyway, according to OSHA

Notebook computers for Emi testing

1999-03-16 Thread Sparacino,George
Hello All, I am about to purchase a notebook (support equip.) computer for use in Emi / immunity testing of our (ITE) equipment. I have no experience with notebooks (in Emi testing) and am looking for your opinions on which manufacturer(s) are quiet performers for this application. Thank You,

Re: explanation of ESD events with coins in baggie.

1999-03-16 Thread Hans Mellberg
---Lou Gnecco l...@tempest-inc.com wrote: Do you get the same effect with the coins in a cloth bag or a paper bag? Has anybody tried it? Lou To answer that, there are two parts; 1) Look at the triboelectric series chart. This chart, shows, what materials when rubbed with what other

RE: Invitation to EU workshop for all CABs (Washington, D.C., Apr il 2 7-29)

1999-03-16 Thread WOODS, RICHARD
According to this site, the MRA process is being delayed. http://www.cix.co.uk/~approval/n2_0199.htm http://www.cix.co.uk/~approval/n2_0199.htm -- From: Leafloor, Bob: DSI [SMTP:leafloor@ic.gc.ca] Sent: Tuesday, March 16, 1999 8:11 AM To:

CSZ.. service contact

1999-03-16 Thread Sparacino,George
Hello Group, Sorry to bother you with this one, but I am having a bit of a problem connecting with a service person for Cincinnati Sub-Zero. My tech has placed several calls and was told that someone would get back to us.. but it's been over a week.. we're still trying and still no call back. The

Re: Fw: EN 50021 and the EX Mark

1999-03-16 Thread Bill Lawrence
The explosive atmospheres directive (ATEX) 94/9/EC is in force, but not mandatory until 30 June 2003. You are correct in stating that there are no standards published in the OJ yet, but that will occur soon. Also, prEN 50 021 is due to be published any day now as EN 50 021. By 'EX', I assume

UL/CSA Listings

1999-03-16 Thread Brian Harlowe
Hi Everybody Can some of you Whizzy American Engineers provide me with some information. The word on this side of the Atlantic is that if Equipment is not UL/CSA approved. It MUST be field labelled. Can anyone confirm this please Regards Brian Harlowe * opinions

Re: explanation of ESD events with coins in baggie.

1999-03-16 Thread rc
I remember a similar effect. Many years ago, when I was a student, in my room I had a TV set with a simple loop antenna. 2 meters away from the antenna was the radiator of the central heating of that house. On seams of the elements of that radiator the paint had come off. Below the paint the

FW: Earth Bonding Requirements for Telecom Equipment

1999-03-16 Thread Ing. Gert Gremmen
Regards, Gert Gremmen Ing. == Ce-test, Qualified testing == Consultants in EMC, Electrical safety and Telecommunication Compliance tests for European standards and ce-marking Member of NEC/IEC voting committee for EMC. Our Web presence: http://www.cetest.nl List of current harmonized standards

RE: passive loudspeakers

1999-03-16 Thread Juan Pedro Peña
Chris, about safety, if you look at EN 60065 (IEC 60065), you'll see that any loudspeaker is included, regardless of its input voltage. Of course, most of the tests are not applicable to those devices. However, only loudspeakers using voltage higher than 50 V AC or 75 V DC are affected by LVD.

Re: explanation of ESD events with coins in baggie.

1999-03-16 Thread George Tang
Barry, Your question is very much justified. I use the word ESD because in my mind, I play the image of the striking screw driver in slow motion. If you imagine the nickel surface robs the screw driver of its electrons to charge up the screw driver, then the electric field builds up as the