Bellcore 1092

2001-11-28 Thread Dave Hutchins
Can anyone tell me where I can obtain this document. What I really need is the is the conditions of the ring wave from this document. Can anyone help me on this? Best Regards David W. Hutchins Director: World Wide Marketing Applications ProTek Devices 2929 S. Fair Lane Tempe, AZ 85282 USA

Re: Hi-Pot OK labels

2001-11-28 Thread Ron Pickard
Hi Chris, How about the little Hi-Pot OK labels that I have seen? I would assume that these are widely used. Any sources for these? Or do we have to go to a print shop and pay a tooling charge to make our own (what a waste)? Why constrict yourself to just labels? We authorize either

Hi-Pot OK labels

2001-11-28 Thread Chris Maxwell
Hi all, I previously asked about Hi-Pot testing and NRTL labeling. Ok, so there is no such thing as a standard UL, CSA ... label that can be purchased. Although the logos are available on the website, the labels have to be re-invented for every company (yawn). Seems like a waste of time to

Re: [Fwd: clearance and working voltage]

2001-11-28 Thread John Woodgate
I read in !emc-pstc that David Heald davehe...@mediaone.net wrote (in 3c0512fd.7eb9...@mediaone.net) about '[Fwd: clearance and working voltage]', on Wed, 28 Nov 2001: Forwarded to the list for xingwb xin...@cesi.ac.cn. Dave Heald EMC-PSTC Admin Begin forwarded message Hi group I have a

Re: Smarthouse products and Conducted emission

2001-11-28 Thread John Woodgate
I read in !emc-pstc that am...@westin-emission.no wrote (in LFENJLPMMJB mhpeibnilkeflcbaa.am...@westin-emission.no) about 'Smarthouse products and Conducted emission', on Wed, 28 Nov 2001: 1. Equipment which communicates on power lines, typical Smarthouse products, often use the CEBus standard. I

RE: Re: Revised EMC standards and CE Declarations.

2001-11-28 Thread jasonxmallory
Two more questions Newgroup Lingo? In the following, IIRC means If I Recall Correctly The 'dow' for the old edition is given in the front of the new one and is 2001-07-01, IIRC. I can't check at this instant. So you needed to re- test before that date (1 July this

Re: Revised EMC standards and CE Declarations.

2001-11-28 Thread John Woodgate
I read in !emc-pstc that Pettit, Ghery ghery.pet...@intel.com wrote (in D9223EB959A5D511A98F00508B68C20C0226B685@ORSMSX108) about 'Revised EMC standards and CE Declarations.', on Wed, 28 Nov 2001: Hey, John. I resemble that remark. I'm not complaining, just pointing out a practical result of

Re: Quality Assurance and Product Approvals

2001-11-28 Thread John Woodgate
I read in !emc-pstc that Mark Werlwas mark.werl...@home.com wrote (in 006701c1782b$69f56020$6401a...@frmt1.sfba.home.com) about 'Quality Assurance and Product Approvals', on Wed, 28 Nov 2001: On the aspect of the where to put Product Safety/Compliance in the organization discussion bears

Smarthouse products and Conducted emission

2001-11-28 Thread amund
Hi all, 1. Equipment which communicates on power lines, typical Smarthouse products, often use the CEBus standard. I think they are using the frequency band 100kHz-400kHz for transmitting. How can equipment like this fulfil the conducted emission requirements (0.15-30MHz), when you are measuring

RE: Quality Assurance and Product Approvals

2001-11-28 Thread Ehler, Kyle
Maybe this problem is even more insidious: Ask your HR department if they have a Radford Benchmark Salary Survey Job Description -for the work you do. (or equivalent to AON Consulting/Radford Associates service) I became aware some months ago that in some parts of the industry do not have a

Re: Quality Assurance and Product Approvals

2001-11-28 Thread Rich Nute
On the aspect of the where to put Product Safety/Compliance in the organization discussion bears mentioning on the forum. In general I advocate that the Product Safety/Compliance department be separate from Engineering, Sales, and Operations. The Safety/Compliance group should

RE: FW: Quality Assurance and Product Approvals

2001-11-28 Thread Dan Teninty
Charles, I would like to offer an explanation for EMC limits being set where they are and a reason for meeting or beating the limits. I agree, 0.5 dB doesn't seem like the end of the world and under management guidance/pressure to ship product and produce revenue, it takes a lot of conviction to

RE: Quality Assurance and Product Approvals

2001-11-28 Thread Dan Teninty
Charles, Yup, I knew that. I think that Dell recognizes that the whole compliance picture involves more than just getting some certification marks slapped on the product. Daniel E. Teninty, P.E. Managing Partner DTEC Associates LLC Streamlining The Compliance Process Advancing New Products To

RE: Quality Assurance and Product Approvals

2001-11-28 Thread Charles Grasso
One comment on the VP for compliance.. It is my undersyand that the Dell VP position does ALL the functions that are imposed by legislation on a compamy. EMC is one part. There is of course Safety, Environmental Issues, Lead-free solder etc.. Dell is taking a very professional approach to

Re: FW: Quality Assurance and Product Approvals

2001-11-28 Thread Charles Grasso
Hi all, I have been following this discussion with great interest and could not resist adding my 2c. Lest face it - EMC is nothing more than pure overhead to any corporation. We all have experience of products that work perfectly fine yet fail the emissions profile by 0.5dB. I will contend

Re: Production Line Hipot Test for Network Powered Equipment

2001-11-28 Thread Rich Nute
Hi Jerry: Will a production line hipot test be required? As far as I know, the only certification house that requires a production-line hi-pot test of TNV circuits is UL. The test is specified in the gray pages as a separate test from that of the mains hi-pot test. Since you

[Fwd: clearance and working voltage]

2001-11-28 Thread David Heald
Forwarded to the list for xingwb xin...@cesi.ac.cn. Dave Heald EMC-PSTC Admin Begin forwarded message Hi group I have a question regarding clearance and working voltage of IEC60950. If I HAVE A AC ADAPTER(AC 100-240V 50/60Hz) ,THE WORKING VOLTAGE MEASURED ARE AS FOLLOWS: Nominal supply voltage:

Re: Production Line Hipot Test for Network Powered Equipment

2001-11-28 Thread JPR3
In a message dated 11/27/2001, Jerry Martin writes: I'm working on a product that is telecom network powered (-190 Vdc) and will most likely require a production line hipot test. Being network powered, it is exposed to outside plant surges and has transient protection designed in (fuse

Re: FW: Quality Assurance and Product Approvals

2001-11-28 Thread ooverton
The Board of Certified Safety Processionals used to have a Certification Specialty in Product Safety. There was so little interest in it that it was dropped. The closest that they have now is a Specialty in System Safety. Just like Dan says below about the requirement for PEs to sign off

RE: Production Line Hipot Test for Network Powered Equipment

2001-11-28 Thread robertj
Those removable links can be fuses, which are a good idea to use with sidactors or MOVs anyway. Bob -Original Message- From: owner-emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org [mailto:owner-emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org] On Behalf Of John Woodgate Sent: Wednesday, November 28, 2001 2:28 AM To:

Current Status of Argentina's IRAM Program

2001-11-28 Thread Don Clayton
Does anyone out there know the latest information on the Argentina's IRAM program? Has phase 3 been postponed? Has professional equipment been exempted? Thanks in advance, Don Clayton ESR Engineering --- This message is from the IEEE EMC Society

SV: Revised EMC standards and CE Declarations.

2001-11-28 Thread amund
Yes. But if some of the tests in EN 50082-1:1992 is exactly the same as in EN 50082-1:1997, you don't have to repeat those tests. As far as I remember some tests have the same test specifications (fast transient...), but they refer to other basic standards. I suggest you re-test them all. Note

Re: Production Line Hipot Test for Network Powered Equipment

2001-11-28 Thread John Woodgate
I read in !emc-pstc that Jerry Martin martin_je...@juno.com wrote (in 20011128040805.12712.qm...@juno.com) about 'Production Line Hipot Test for Network Powered Equipment', on Wed, 28 Nov 2001: Has anyone had experience with this and how do you go about removing soldered sidactors to do the

Production Line Hipot Test for Network Powered Equipment

2001-11-28 Thread Jerry Martin
Hello PSTC members! I'm working on a product that is telecom network powered (-190 Vdc) and will most likely require a production line hipot test. Being network powered, it is exposed to outside plant surges and has transient protection designed in (fuse and sidactor). UL's Follow-up

Re: Revised EMC standards and CE Declarations.

2001-11-28 Thread John Woodgate
I read in !emc-pstc that jasonxmall...@netscape.net wrote (in 06088e8c.700456bd.73ea6...@netscape.net) about 'Revised EMC standards and CE Declarations.', on Tue, 27 Nov 2001: EN 50082-1:1992 was replaced by EN 50082-1:1997. According to the newapproach.org website, from 1/7/2001 the old version