Re: SV: EMC test report
All, Just last night, I was re-reading the procedures for Verification (e.g. for Class A ITE) and Declaration of Conformity (e.g. for Class B ITE.) For products subject to Certification, refer to 47CFR2.938, Retention of Records. For products subject to Verification, refer to 47CFRF2.955, Retention of Records. For products subject to the Declaration of Conformity procedure, refer to 47CRF2.1075, Retention of Records. (To download, go to: http://www.access.gpo.gov/nara/cfr/index.html#page1 In the search terms field, type: 47CFR2 AND Retention This will produce all three sections above, Part 2 in its entirety, and 47CRF2 Subpart J--Equipment Authorization Procedures, which defines the three procedures. Regards, Dan From: am...@westin-emission.no To: emc-pstc \(E-mail\) emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org Subject: SV: EMC test report Date: Thu, 25 Apr 2002 19:37:12 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600. Importance: Normal X-Resent-To: Multiple Recipients emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org X-Listname: emc-pstc X-Info: Help requests to emc-pstc-requ...@majordomo.ieee.org X-Info: [Un]Subscribe requests to majord...@majordomo.ieee.org X-Moderator-Address: emc-pstc-appro...@majordomo.ieee.org I don't know what FCC require, but this is a general proposal for a test report: 1. SCOPE OF WORK 2. TEST LABORATORY 3. TEST PERIOD 4. ATTENDING REPRESENTATIVES 5. EQUIPMENT UNDER TEST 5.1 Equipment submitted for tests (incl. EUT description, manufacturer, serial number, SW and HW versions, etc) 5.2 Test configuration (EUT test set-up, cabling, etc) 5.3 Modes of operation 5.4 Modifications during testing 6 EVALUATION OF PERFORMANCE DURING THE TESTS 6.1 Function testing 6.2 Performance monitoring 6.3 Criteria of acceptance 7. TESTS (incl. procedure, plots, pictures, result) 8. SUMMARY OF TEST RESULTS 9. TEST FACILITIES AND INSTRUMENTS Best regards Amund -Opprinnelig melding- Fra: owner-emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org [mailto:owner-emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org]På vegne av Mike Cantwell Sendt: 25. april 2002 16:21 Til: emc-pstc (E-mail) Emne: RE: EMC test report Section 10 of ANSI C63.4 covers what must be in a test report. It's important to have an accurate description of what was tested, including photographs. The intent is that the report should be complete enough to reproduce the test a year from now. Sounds simple... but it's not. Mike -Original Message- From: cecil.gitt...@kodak.com [mailto:cecil.gitt...@kodak.com] Sent: Thursday, April 25, 2002 6:18 AM To: emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org Subject: EMC test report Hi All, Does FCC require that all that information be in the final report. Such as Product Manufacturer, Table of Contents, Equipment Units Tested, Equipment and Cable Configuration, List of Test Equipment( calibration data), Location of Test Site, Measurement Procedures, Reporting Measurement Data, Summary of Results... The reason I ask is that it states that Digital devices ..are to be measured for compliance using the following procedure... it doesn't say that it needs to be in the final summary. Thanks Cecil --- This message is from the IEEE EMC Society Product Safety Technical Committee emc-pstc discussion list. Visit our web site at: http://www.ewh.ieee.org/soc/emcs/pstc/ To cancel your subscription, send mail to: majord...@ieee.org with the single line: unsubscribe emc-pstc For help, send mail to the list administrators: Ron Pickard: emc-p...@hypercom.com Dave Heald: davehe...@attbi.com For policy questions, send mail to: Richard Nute: ri...@ieee.org Jim Bacher: j.bac...@ieee.org All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: http://ieeepstc.mindcruiser.com/ Click on browse and then emc-pstc mailing list --- This message is from the IEEE EMC Society Product Safety Technical Committee emc-pstc discussion list. Visit our web site at: http://www.ewh.ieee.org/soc/emcs/pstc/ To cancel your subscription, send mail to: majord...@ieee.org with the single line: unsubscribe emc-pstc For help, send mail to the list administrators: Ron Pickard: emc-p...@hypercom.com Dave Heald: davehe...@attbi.com For policy questions, send mail to: Richard Nute: ri...@ieee.org Jim Bacher: j.bac...@ieee.org All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: http://ieeepstc.mindcruiser.com/ Click on browse and then emc-pstc mailing list --- This message is from the
Re: Transformer assessments
IEC 61558 series standards are now/will be EN's in the same series. John Allen - Original Message - From: POWELL, DOUG doug.pow...@aei.com To: iun...@servomex.com; emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org Sent: Thursday, April 25, 2002 3:40 PM Subject: RE: Transformer assessments Ian, We use IEC61558-1 and find it is acceptable for electrical equipment apporved to most EN's. This standard replaces the old IEC60742. I haven't checked to see if there is an equivalent European Norm. Regards, -doug --- Douglas E. Powell, Compliance Engineer Advanced Energy Industries, Inc. --- -Original Message- From: iun...@servomex.com [mailto:iun...@servomex.com] Sent: Thursday, April 25, 2002 2:34 AM To: emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org Subject: Transformer assessments Do any members have any tips and guidance on the assessments that need to be carried out on transfromers included in apparatus intended for the following market areas: Europe (EN 61010, EN 50021Type n), North America (FM and CSA), plus world-wide. Many thanks Ian Unwin Servomex Group Limited England --- This message is from the IEEE EMC Society Product Safety Technical Committee emc-pstc discussion list. Visit our web site at: http://www.ewh.ieee.org/soc/emcs/pstc/ To cancel your subscription, send mail to: majord...@ieee.org with the single line: unsubscribe emc-pstc For help, send mail to the list administrators: Ron Pickard: emc-p...@hypercom.com Dave Heald: davehe...@attbi.com For policy questions, send mail to: Richard Nute: ri...@ieee.org Jim Bacher: j.bac...@ieee.org All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: http://ieeepstc.mindcruiser.com/ Click on browse and then emc-pstc mailing list _ This message, including any attachments, may contain information that is confidential and proprietary information of Advanced Energy Industries, Inc. The dissemination, distribution, use or copying of this message or any of its attachments is strictly prohibited without the express written consent of Advanced Energy Industries, Inc. --- This message is from the IEEE EMC Society Product Safety Technical Committee emc-pstc discussion list. Visit our web site at: http://www.ewh.ieee.org/soc/emcs/pstc/ To cancel your subscription, send mail to: majord...@ieee.org with the single line: unsubscribe emc-pstc For help, send mail to the list administrators: Ron Pickard: emc-p...@hypercom.com Dave Heald: davehe...@attbi.com For policy questions, send mail to: Richard Nute: ri...@ieee.org Jim Bacher: j.bac...@ieee.org All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: http://ieeepstc.mindcruiser.com/ Click on browse and then emc-pstc mailing list --- This message is from the IEEE EMC Society Product Safety Technical Committee emc-pstc discussion list. Visit our web site at: http://www.ewh.ieee.org/soc/emcs/pstc/ To cancel your subscription, send mail to: majord...@ieee.org with the single line: unsubscribe emc-pstc For help, send mail to the list administrators: Ron Pickard: emc-p...@hypercom.com Dave Heald: davehe...@attbi.com For policy questions, send mail to: Richard Nute: ri...@ieee.org Jim Bacher: j.bac...@ieee.org All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: http://ieeepstc.mindcruiser.com/ Click on browse and then emc-pstc mailing list
Immunity Test System
Group: We are currently considering the purchase of a EMC-Partner TRA2000 Immunity test system. Are there any members of the group that are familiar with, or have used this test system and would be willing to share there comments good or bad. This system appears to provide full compliance testing capability at a very attractive price. If any one is reluctant to comment on line I can be reached by e-mail don...@hq.rossvideo.com Regards Donald McElheran Product Compliance Ross Video Ltd.
SV: Transformer assessments
EN 61558-1:1997, Safety of power transformers, power supply units and similar -- Part 1: General requirements and tests Scope: Deals with all aspects of safety (such as electrical, thermal and mechanical) of: a) Stationary or portable, single-phase or polyphase, air-cooled (natural or forced) isolating and safety isolating transformers; b) Stationary or portable, single-phase or polyphase, air-cooled (natural or forced) separating transformers, auto-transformers, variable transformers and small reactors. Has the status of a group safety publication in accordance with IEC Guide 104. EN 61558-1:1997 + amendment A1:1998 are harmonized under the EU Low Voltage Directive 73/23/EEC. Best regards Amund Westin, Oslo/Norway -Opprinnelig melding- Fra: owner-emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org [mailto:owner-emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org]På vegne av POWELL, DOUG Sendt: 25. april 2002 16:41 Til: 'iun...@servomex.com'; emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org Emne: RE: Transformer assessments Ian, We use IEC61558-1 and find it is acceptable for electrical equipment apporved to most EN's. This standard replaces the old IEC60742. I haven't checked to see if there is an equivalent European Norm. Regards, -doug --- Douglas E. Powell, Compliance Engineer Advanced Energy Industries, Inc. --- -Original Message- From: iun...@servomex.com [mailto:iun...@servomex.com] Sent: Thursday, April 25, 2002 2:34 AM To: emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org Subject: Transformer assessments Do any members have any tips and guidance on the assessments that need to be carried out on transfromers included in apparatus intended for the following market areas: Europe (EN 61010, EN 50021Type n), North America (FM and CSA), plus world-wide. Many thanks Ian Unwin Servomex Group Limited England --- This message is from the IEEE EMC Society Product Safety Technical Committee emc-pstc discussion list. Visit our web site at: http://www.ewh.ieee.org/soc/emcs/pstc/ To cancel your subscription, send mail to: majord...@ieee.org with the single line: unsubscribe emc-pstc For help, send mail to the list administrators: Ron Pickard: emc-p...@hypercom.com Dave Heald: davehe...@attbi.com For policy questions, send mail to: Richard Nute: ri...@ieee.org Jim Bacher: j.bac...@ieee.org All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: http://ieeepstc.mindcruiser.com/ Click on browse and then emc-pstc mailing list _ This message, including any attachments, may contain information that is confidential and proprietary information of Advanced Energy Industries, Inc. The dissemination, distribution, use or copying of this message or any of its attachments is strictly prohibited without the express written consent of Advanced Energy Industries, Inc. --- This message is from the IEEE EMC Society Product Safety Technical Committee emc-pstc discussion list. Visit our web site at: http://www.ewh.ieee.org/soc/emcs/pstc/ To cancel your subscription, send mail to: majord...@ieee.org with the single line: unsubscribe emc-pstc For help, send mail to the list administrators: Ron Pickard: emc-p...@hypercom.com Dave Heald: davehe...@attbi.com For policy questions, send mail to: Richard Nute: ri...@ieee.org Jim Bacher: j.bac...@ieee.org All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: http://ieeepstc.mindcruiser.com/ Click on browse and then emc-pstc mailing list --- This message is from the IEEE EMC Society Product Safety Technical Committee emc-pstc discussion list. Visit our web site at: http://www.ewh.ieee.org/soc/emcs/pstc/ To cancel your subscription, send mail to: majord...@ieee.org with the single line: unsubscribe emc-pstc For help, send mail to the list administrators: Ron Pickard: emc-p...@hypercom.com Dave Heald: davehe...@attbi.com For policy questions, send mail to: Richard Nute: ri...@ieee.org Jim Bacher: j.bac...@ieee.org All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: http://ieeepstc.mindcruiser.com/ Click on browse and then emc-pstc mailing list
SV: EMC test report
I don't know what FCC require, but this is a general proposal for a test report: 1. SCOPE OF WORK 2. TEST LABORATORY 3. TEST PERIOD 4. ATTENDING REPRESENTATIVES 5. EQUIPMENT UNDER TEST 5.1 Equipment submitted for tests (incl. EUT description, manufacturer, serial number, SW and HW versions, etc) 5.2 Test configuration (EUT test set-up, cabling, etc) 5.3 Modes of operation 5.4 Modifications during testing 6 EVALUATION OF PERFORMANCE DURING THE TESTS 6.1 Function testing 6.2 Performance monitoring 6.3 Criteria of acceptance 7. TESTS (incl. procedure, plots, pictures, result) 8. SUMMARY OF TEST RESULTS 9. TEST FACILITIES AND INSTRUMENTS Best regards Amund -Opprinnelig melding- Fra: owner-emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org [mailto:owner-emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org]På vegne av Mike Cantwell Sendt: 25. april 2002 16:21 Til: emc-pstc (E-mail) Emne: RE: EMC test report Section 10 of ANSI C63.4 covers what must be in a test report. It's important to have an accurate description of what was tested, including photographs. The intent is that the report should be complete enough to reproduce the test a year from now. Sounds simple... but it's not. Mike -Original Message- From: cecil.gitt...@kodak.com [mailto:cecil.gitt...@kodak.com] Sent: Thursday, April 25, 2002 6:18 AM To: emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org Subject: EMC test report Hi All, Does FCC require that all that information be in the final report. Such as Product Manufacturer, Table of Contents, Equipment Units Tested, Equipment and Cable Configuration, List of Test Equipment( calibration data), Location of Test Site, Measurement Procedures, Reporting Measurement Data, Summary of Results... The reason I ask is that it states that Digital devices ..are to be measured for compliance using the following procedure... it doesn't say that it needs to be in the final summary. Thanks Cecil --- This message is from the IEEE EMC Society Product Safety Technical Committee emc-pstc discussion list. Visit our web site at: http://www.ewh.ieee.org/soc/emcs/pstc/ To cancel your subscription, send mail to: majord...@ieee.org with the single line: unsubscribe emc-pstc For help, send mail to the list administrators: Ron Pickard: emc-p...@hypercom.com Dave Heald: davehe...@attbi.com For policy questions, send mail to: Richard Nute: ri...@ieee.org Jim Bacher: j.bac...@ieee.org All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: http://ieeepstc.mindcruiser.com/ Click on browse and then emc-pstc mailing list --- This message is from the IEEE EMC Society Product Safety Technical Committee emc-pstc discussion list. Visit our web site at: http://www.ewh.ieee.org/soc/emcs/pstc/ To cancel your subscription, send mail to: majord...@ieee.org with the single line: unsubscribe emc-pstc For help, send mail to the list administrators: Ron Pickard: emc-p...@hypercom.com Dave Heald: davehe...@attbi.com For policy questions, send mail to: Richard Nute: ri...@ieee.org Jim Bacher: j.bac...@ieee.org All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: http://ieeepstc.mindcruiser.com/ Click on browse and then emc-pstc mailing list --- This message is from the IEEE EMC Society Product Safety Technical Committee emc-pstc discussion list. Visit our web site at: http://www.ewh.ieee.org/soc/emcs/pstc/ To cancel your subscription, send mail to: majord...@ieee.org with the single line: unsubscribe emc-pstc For help, send mail to the list administrators: Ron Pickard: emc-p...@hypercom.com Dave Heald: davehe...@attbi.com For policy questions, send mail to: Richard Nute: ri...@ieee.org Jim Bacher: j.bac...@ieee.org All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: http://ieeepstc.mindcruiser.com/ Click on browse and then emc-pstc mailing list
RE: Inquiry on standard specifying potential ESD hazard reduced to a level BELOW 200V
Folks, Is there a standard specifying that the potential ESD hazard Must Be reduced to a level BELOW 200V ( or other max. voltage ) adjacent to any location where a customer's Semiconductor Device Under Test might be Handled or Contacted. Your comments would be most appreciated. Best Regards,Paul J Smith Teradyne, Inc., Boston, MA 02111 paul.j.sm...@teradyne.com --- This message is from the IEEE EMC Society Product Safety Technical Committee emc-pstc discussion list. Visit our web site at: http://www.ewh.ieee.org/soc/emcs/pstc/ To cancel your subscription, send mail to: majord...@ieee.org with the single line: unsubscribe emc-pstc For help, send mail to the list administrators: Ron Pickard: emc-p...@hypercom.com Dave Heald: davehe...@attbi.com For policy questions, send mail to: Richard Nute: ri...@ieee.org Jim Bacher: j.bac...@ieee.org All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: http://ieeepstc.mindcruiser.com/ Click on browse and then emc-pstc mailing list
General Product Safety Directive
Let's take an example of a non-rechargable 9V battery operated ITE product intended soley for business use; and due to its nature, it is highly unlikely to be used by laymen outside that business environment (i.e., not in the home). That product is not subject to the LVD, but it might be subject to the GPSD depending upon scope of the term consumer. The GPSD uses the word consumer without defining the term. What is the legal meaning and scope of that term in the EU? Comments? Richard Woods Sensormatic Electronics Tyco International --- This message is from the IEEE EMC Society Product Safety Technical Committee emc-pstc discussion list. Visit our web site at: http://www.ewh.ieee.org/soc/emcs/pstc/ To cancel your subscription, send mail to: majord...@ieee.org with the single line: unsubscribe emc-pstc For help, send mail to the list administrators: Ron Pickard: emc-p...@hypercom.com Dave Heald: davehe...@attbi.com For policy questions, send mail to: Richard Nute: ri...@ieee.org Jim Bacher: j.bac...@ieee.org All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: http://ieeepstc.mindcruiser.com/ Click on browse and then emc-pstc mailing list
RE: Transformer assessments
Ian, We use IEC61558-1 and find it is acceptable for electrical equipment apporved to most EN's. This standard replaces the old IEC60742. I haven't checked to see if there is an equivalent European Norm. Regards, -doug --- Douglas E. Powell, Compliance Engineer Advanced Energy Industries, Inc. --- -Original Message- From: iun...@servomex.com [mailto:iun...@servomex.com] Sent: Thursday, April 25, 2002 2:34 AM To: emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org Subject: Transformer assessments Do any members have any tips and guidance on the assessments that need to be carried out on transfromers included in apparatus intended for the following market areas: Europe (EN 61010, EN 50021Type n), North America (FM and CSA), plus world-wide. Many thanks Ian Unwin Servomex Group Limited England --- This message is from the IEEE EMC Society Product Safety Technical Committee emc-pstc discussion list. Visit our web site at: http://www.ewh.ieee.org/soc/emcs/pstc/ To cancel your subscription, send mail to: majord...@ieee.org with the single line: unsubscribe emc-pstc For help, send mail to the list administrators: Ron Pickard: emc-p...@hypercom.com Dave Heald: davehe...@attbi.com For policy questions, send mail to: Richard Nute: ri...@ieee.org Jim Bacher: j.bac...@ieee.org All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: http://ieeepstc.mindcruiser.com/ Click on browse and then emc-pstc mailing list _ This message, including any attachments, may contain information that is confidential and proprietary information of Advanced Energy Industries, Inc. The dissemination, distribution, use or copying of this message or any of its attachments is strictly prohibited without the express written consent of Advanced Energy Industries, Inc. --- This message is from the IEEE EMC Society Product Safety Technical Committee emc-pstc discussion list. Visit our web site at: http://www.ewh.ieee.org/soc/emcs/pstc/ To cancel your subscription, send mail to: majord...@ieee.org with the single line: unsubscribe emc-pstc For help, send mail to the list administrators: Ron Pickard: emc-p...@hypercom.com Dave Heald: davehe...@attbi.com For policy questions, send mail to: Richard Nute: ri...@ieee.org Jim Bacher: j.bac...@ieee.org All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: http://ieeepstc.mindcruiser.com/ Click on browse and then emc-pstc mailing list
Re: A very nice game (an example)
From: T.Sato vef00...@nifty.ne.jp # BTW, a good anti-virus solution is to stop using Microsoft Windows # (at least Microsoft's mailers)! :-) I suppress the preview pane for viewing the contents of my mail and use only two panes, one for mail folders and the other for the list of emails in the selected folder. To check emails, I right click on the subject line of the email, select Properties, select Details, then select Message Source. That opens up the entire email in its own separate window to include all header info and the entire message in the body. I can read the message and check addresses without ever opening up the mail. I generally don't open any attachments unless I know the person or have had the attachment checked. There's a very easy way which costs nothing to have some very complete and effective virus checking. Go to any one of the more high profile free email websites to open an account. I find they're very good at checking for virii. Also, that way if you are anywhere which has web access, you can keep up with any of your emails. And keep the personal email account back home strictly for private personal and discretionary communiqués. Regards, Doug McKean --- This message is from the IEEE EMC Society Product Safety Technical Committee emc-pstc discussion list. Visit our web site at: http://www.ewh.ieee.org/soc/emcs/pstc/ To cancel your subscription, send mail to: majord...@ieee.org with the single line: unsubscribe emc-pstc For help, send mail to the list administrators: Ron Pickard: emc-p...@hypercom.com Dave Heald: davehe...@attbi.com For policy questions, send mail to: Richard Nute: ri...@ieee.org Jim Bacher: j.bac...@ieee.org All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: http://ieeepstc.mindcruiser.com/ Click on browse and then emc-pstc mailing list
Transformer assessments
Do any members have any tips and guidance on the assessments that need to be carried out on transfromers included in apparatus intended for the following market areas: Europe (EN 61010, EN 50021Type n), North America (FM and CSA), plus world-wide. Many thanks Ian Unwin Servomex Group Limited England --- This message is from the IEEE EMC Society Product Safety Technical Committee emc-pstc discussion list. Visit our web site at: http://www.ewh.ieee.org/soc/emcs/pstc/ To cancel your subscription, send mail to: majord...@ieee.org with the single line: unsubscribe emc-pstc For help, send mail to the list administrators: Ron Pickard: emc-p...@hypercom.com Dave Heald: davehe...@attbi.com For policy questions, send mail to: Richard Nute: ri...@ieee.org Jim Bacher: j.bac...@ieee.org All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: http://ieeepstc.mindcruiser.com/ Click on browse and then emc-pstc mailing list
Re: EMC and Class 2 equipment
This has been my experience with Class II switching power supplies. The absence of the earth connection will make very little difference in the emissions. But, without the earth connection the leakage current requirement is much lower. (For ITE, 3.5mA is allowed for Class I, but only 0.25mA is allowed for Class II equipment ). Therefore to meet the 0.25mA leakage current limit the cap value must be reduced. With the cap value reduced the power supply will no longer meet the conducted emission limits. Then to reduce the conducted emissions, the common mode choke inductance must be increased. I am only a product safety person with very little EMC experience , but it seems be a simple voltage divider issue. With these changes the power supply can meet the conducted emissions and also the leakage current limit. Therefore, the desire for a class II switching power supply must be great enough to justify the increased cost and physical size of the common mode choke. But I have gotten several of them through world wide safety approvals. A final word: I recommend that you NOT try to modify an existing Class I design to meet the Class II leakage current and EMC requirements. Regards, Lou Aiken 27109 Palmetto Drive Orange Beach, AL 36561 USA Tel ++1 251 981 6786 Fax ++1 251 981 3054 Cell ++1 251 979 4648 - Original Message - From: am...@westin-emission.no To: EMC-PSTC Internet Forum Sent: Tuesday, April 23, 2002 3:55 PM Subject: EMC and Class 2 equipment Hi all, Ground connections is usually nice to have when dealing with EMC. But what about EMC and a class 2 (double insulation) power supply (shall comply with MIL-STD-461E) . I'm thinking on, what to do with the regularly Y-caps, does it really have any meaning with these caps when ground is absent? Best regards Amund Westin, Oslo/Norway --- This message is from the IEEE EMC Society Product Safety Technical Committee emc-pstc discussion list. Visit our web site at: http://www.ewh.ieee.org/soc/emcs/pstc/ To cancel your subscription, send mail to: majord...@ieee.org with the single line: unsubscribe emc-pstc For help, send mail to the list administrators: Ron Pickard: emc-p...@hypercom.com Dave Heald: davehe...@attbi.com For policy questions, send mail to: Richard Nute: ri...@ieee.org Jim Bacher: j.bac...@ieee.org All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: http://ieeepstc.mindcruiser.com/ Click on browse and then emc-pstc mailing list
Re: DSSS WLAN for Australia
Hi Desmond, Conformity assessment in Australia is via declaration of conformity and supporting compliance folder. There is no approval to be applied for. The compliance folder should include a copy of the Part 15.247 report, among other things. The C-tick is required on this kind of WLAN device, and the Supplier Code Number (SCN) that accompanies the mark on the label is what will link the product to the responsible party in Australia for ACA enforcement. If the manufacturer is not an Australian company that role of responsible party is filled by an agent in Australia. It would be the agent's SCN appearing on the label, and the agent would sign the DoC and maintain the compliance folder. ACA (the regulator) says an agency agreement should be in place to clarify who is responsible for compliance of the equipment in the market. Since there is no submission to be made or certification granted, the time frame on this can be quite short. We would probably turn around and ask how quickly the manufacturer needs to ship the product. Hope this helps. -Fred Borda Compliance International www.typeapproval.com At PM 08:27 04/24/02 -0400, Desmond Fraser wrote: Hello Group: We recently received a certification granted for a 2.4 GHZ portable wireless LAN card. The device transmits between 2.4GHz and 2.472 GHz with maximum EIRP levels of less than 15mW. This device was FCC approved under 15.247, Specific absorption rate measurements were also performed. Does anyone know the following below for Australia. 1.Can the manufacturer use a DOC with an Australian agent? 2.Is the ctick-mark mandatory for the referenced devices? 3.Should an agency agreement exist between agent and the manufacturer? 4.Who applies for the Ctick mark? The agent or the manufacturer. 5. 6.What is the typical time frames from submitting to actual approval. Thanks in advance Desmond A. Fraser Rhein Tech Labs, Inc. 360 Herndon PKWY, Suite 1400 Herndon, VA 22070 Tel: 703-689-0368 Fax: 703-689-2056 mailto:desm...@rheintech.commailto:desm...@rheintech.com Fred Borda Director Marketing Business Development Compliance International www.typeapproval.com -- The experts in telecommunications equipment type approval across the Asia-Pacific region -- 4713 First Street, Suite 280 Pleasanton, California 94566-7362 USA Tel +1.925.417.5571 (direct) Fax +1.925.417.5574 Mobile +1.650.740.5762 fbo...@typeapproval.com
RE: FCC Contact
Bill didn't take over Art's responsibilities. He is currently working with Art. Neither of them are the source for answers regarding Pt. 15, Pt. 18. or Pt. 68 though. For questions relating to Pt. 15 18 contact Ray La Forge rlafo...@fcc.gov Question relating to Terminal Equipment Attachment must be handled by ACTA, or you may contact your Pt. 68 TCB. Best Regards, Barbara -Original Message- From: Lothar Schmidt [mailto:lothar.schm...@cetecomusa.com] Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2002 1:20 PM To: 'Gary McInturff'; am...@westin-emission.no; emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org Subject: RE: FCC Contact William Hurst took over these responsibilities. To contact these people the FCC website has a contact us section were you can access a phone directory and find the numbers you need. http://www.fcc.gov/fcc-bin/findpeople.pl Best Regards Lothar Schmidt Technical Manager EMC/Radio BQB CETECOM Inc. 411 Dixon Landing Road Milpitas, CA 95035 * +1 408 586 6214 * +1 408 586 6299 -Original Message- From: Gary McInturff [mailto:gary.mcintu...@worldwidepackets.com] Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2002 11:50 AM To: am...@westin-emission.no; emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org Subject: RE: FCC Contact Didn't Art Wall retired a year or so ago. Gary -Original Message- From: am...@westin-emission.no [mailto:am...@westin-emission.no] Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2002 9:14 AM To: emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org Subject: SV: FCC Contact You can also make contact with Mr. Art Wall on e-mail: aw...@fcc.gov He gave us some advice a year ago regarding FCC interpretation. Amund -Opprinnelig melding- Fra: owner-emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org [mailto:owner-emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org]På vegne av John Juhasz Sendt: 24. april 2002 15:46 Til: 'rehel...@mmm.com'; emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org Emne: RE: FCC Contact Contact the FCC's OET (Office of Engineering and Technology). http://www.fcc.gov/oet/contact/ GE Interlogix John A. Juhasz Fiber Options Div. Bohemia, NY -Original Message- From: rehel...@mmm.com [mailto:rehel...@mmm.com] Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2002 9:12 AM To: emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org Subject: FCC Contact Can anyone provide me with phone and/or name contacts for FCC rules interpretation (Parts 15, 18, and 68)? Bob Heller 3M Product Safety, 76-1-01 St. Paul, MN 55107-1208 Tel: 651- 778-6336 Fax: 651-778-6252 --- This message is from the IEEE EMC Society Product Safety Technical Committee emc-pstc discussion list. Visit our web site at: http://www.ewh.ieee.org/soc/emcs/pstc/ To cancel your subscription, send mail to: majord...@ieee.org with the single line: unsubscribe emc-pstc For help, send mail to the list administrators: Ron Pickard: emc-p...@hypercom.com Dave Heald: davehe...@attbi.com For policy questions, send mail to: Richard Nute: ri...@ieee.org Jim Bacher: j.bac...@ieee.org All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: http://ieeepstc.mindcruiser.com/ Click on browse and then emc-pstc mailing list --- This message is from the IEEE EMC Society Product Safety Technical Committee emc-pstc discussion list. Visit our web site at: http://www.ewh.ieee.org/soc/emcs/pstc/ To cancel your subscription, send mail to: majord...@ieee.org with the single line: unsubscribe emc-pstc For help, send mail to the list administrators: Ron Pickard: emc-p...@hypercom.com Dave Heald: davehe...@attbi.com For policy questions, send mail to: Richard Nute: ri...@ieee.org Jim Bacher: j.bac...@ieee.org All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: http://ieeepstc.mindcruiser.com/ Click on browse and then emc-pstc mailing list --- This message is from the IEEE EMC Society Product Safety Technical Committee emc-pstc discussion list. Visit our web site at: http://www.ewh.ieee.org/soc/emcs/pstc/ To cancel your subscription, send mail to: majord...@ieee.org with the single line: unsubscribe emc-pstc For help, send mail to the list administrators: Ron Pickard: emc-p...@hypercom.com Dave Heald: davehe...@attbi.com For policy questions, send mail to: Richard Nute: ri...@ieee.org Jim Bacher: j.bac...@ieee.org All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: http://ieeepstc.mindcruiser.com/ Click on browse and then emc-pstc mailing list --- This message is from the IEEE EMC Society Product Safety Technical Committee emc-pstc discussion list. Visit our web site at: http://www.ewh.ieee.org/soc/emcs/pstc/ To cancel your subscription, send mail to: majord...@ieee.org with the single line:
RE: FCC Contact
Try Raymond Laforge [rlafo...@fcc.gov]. Desmond A. Fraser Rhein Tech Labs, Inc. 360 Herndon PKWY, Suite 1400 Herndon, VA 22070 Tel: 703-689-0368 Fax: 703-689-2056 mailto:desm...@rheintech.com -Original Message- From: Gary McInturff [mailto:gary.mcintu...@worldwidepackets.com] Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2002 2:50 PM To: am...@westin-emission.no; emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org Subject: RE: FCC Contact Didn't Art Wall retired a year or so ago. Gary -Original Message- From: am...@westin-emission.no [mailto:am...@westin-emission.no] Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2002 9:14 AM To: emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org Subject: SV: FCC Contact You can also make contact with Mr. Art Wall on e-mail: aw...@fcc.gov He gave us some advice a year ago regarding FCC interpretation. Amund -Opprinnelig melding- Fra: owner-emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org [mailto:owner-emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org]På vegne av John Juhasz Sendt: 24. april 2002 15:46 Til: 'rehel...@mmm.com'; emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org Emne: RE: FCC Contact Contact the FCC's OET (Office of Engineering and Technology). http://www.fcc.gov/oet/contact/ GE Interlogix John A. Juhasz Fiber Options Div. Bohemia, NY -Original Message- From: rehel...@mmm.com [mailto:rehel...@mmm.com] Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2002 9:12 AM To: emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org Subject: FCC Contact Can anyone provide me with phone and/or name contacts for FCC rules interpretation (Parts 15, 18, and 68)? Bob Heller 3M Product Safety, 76-1-01 St. Paul, MN 55107-1208 Tel: 651- 778-6336 Fax: 651-778-6252 --- This message is from the IEEE EMC Society Product Safety Technical Committee emc-pstc discussion list. Visit our web site at: http://www.ewh.ieee.org/soc/emcs/pstc/ To cancel your subscription, send mail to: majord...@ieee.org with the single line: unsubscribe emc-pstc For help, send mail to the list administrators: Ron Pickard: emc-p...@hypercom.com Dave Heald: davehe...@attbi.com For policy questions, send mail to: Richard Nute: ri...@ieee.org Jim Bacher: j.bac...@ieee.org All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: http://ieeepstc.mindcruiser.com/ Click on browse and then emc-pstc mailing list --- This message is from the IEEE EMC Society Product Safety Technical Committee emc-pstc discussion list. Visit our web site at: http://www.ewh.ieee.org/soc/emcs/pstc/ To cancel your subscription, send mail to: majord...@ieee.org with the single line: unsubscribe emc-pstc For help, send mail to the list administrators: Ron Pickard: emc-p...@hypercom.com Dave Heald: davehe...@attbi.com For policy questions, send mail to: Richard Nute: ri...@ieee.org Jim Bacher: j.bac...@ieee.org All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: http://ieeepstc.mindcruiser.com/ Click on browse and then emc-pstc mailing list --- This message is from the IEEE EMC Society Product Safety Technical Committee emc-pstc discussion list. Visit our web site at: http://www.ewh.ieee.org/soc/emcs/pstc/ To cancel your subscription, send mail to: majord...@ieee.org with the single line: unsubscribe emc-pstc For help, send mail to the list administrators: Ron Pickard: emc-p...@hypercom.com Dave Heald: davehe...@attbi.com For policy questions, send mail to: Richard Nute: ri...@ieee.org Jim Bacher: j.bac...@ieee.org All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: http://ieeepstc.mindcruiser.com/ Click on browse and then emc-pstc mailing list --- This message is from the IEEE EMC Society Product Safety Technical Committee emc-pstc discussion list. Visit our web site at: http://www.ewh.ieee.org/soc/emcs/pstc/ To cancel your subscription, send mail to: majord...@ieee.org with the single line: unsubscribe emc-pstc For help, send mail to the list administrators: Ron Pickard: emc-p...@hypercom.com Dave Heald: davehe...@attbi.com For policy questions, send mail to: Richard Nute: ri...@ieee.org Jim Bacher: j.bac...@ieee.org All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: http://ieeepstc.mindcruiser.com/ Click on browse and then emc-pstc mailing list --- This message is from the IEEE EMC Society Product Safety Technical Committee emc-pstc discussion list. Visit our web site at: http://www.ewh.ieee.org/soc/emcs/pstc/ To cancel your subscription, send mail to: majord...@ieee.org with the single line: unsubscribe emc-pstc For help, send mail to
Re: A very nice game (an example)
On Wed, 24 Apr 2002 13:44:34 -0700, Doug McKean dmck...@corp.auspex.com wrote: For those interested in how to track down something like this, take a look at the header information. You'l see a bunch of Received: xx lines. In this case there were 6 of them ... Now, take a look at the Message-Id: line further down. I get Message-Id: 20020424215907.d25ca22...@coer.zju.edu.cn This one is little more difficult for some hackers to hide. I suggest not to believe domain name (QFDN part) in Message-ID line. It is very easy to hide - see Message-ID of this message. Received: lines would be more reliable as far as the mail didn't posted through remailers, but we (except the administrators of the mailing list, possibly) can't use them to find the origination of the mails distributed through emc-pstc mailing list. # BTW, a good anti-virus solution is to stop using Microsoft Windows # (at least Microsoft's mailers)! :-) Regards, Tom -- Tomonori Sato vef00...@nifty.ne.jp URL: http://member.nifty.ne.jp/tsato/ xvkbd-2.3 (virtual keyboard for X) available --- This message is from the IEEE EMC Society Product Safety Technical Committee emc-pstc discussion list. Visit our web site at: http://www.ewh.ieee.org/soc/emcs/pstc/ To cancel your subscription, send mail to: majord...@ieee.org with the single line: unsubscribe emc-pstc For help, send mail to the list administrators: Ron Pickard: emc-p...@hypercom.com Dave Heald: davehe...@attbi.com For policy questions, send mail to: Richard Nute: ri...@ieee.org Jim Bacher: j.bac...@ieee.org All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: http://ieeepstc.mindcruiser.com/ Click on browse and then emc-pstc mailing list
DSSS WLAN for Australia
Hello Group: We recently received a certification granted for a 2.4 GHZ portable wireless LAN card. The device transmits between 2.4GHz and 2.472 GHz with maximum EIRP levels of less than 15mW. This device was FCC approved under 15.247, Specific absorption rate measurements were also performed. Does anyone know the following below for Australia. 1. Can the manufacturer use a DOC with an Australian agent? 2. Is the ctick-mark mandatory for the referenced devices? 3. Should an agency agreement exist between agent and the manufacturer? 4. Who applies for the Ctick mark? The agent or the manufacturer. 5. Are there any fees involved? 6. What is the typical time frames from submitting to actual approval. Thanks in advance Desmond A. Fraser Rhein Tech Labs, Inc. 360 Herndon PKWY, Suite 1400 Herndon, VA 22070 Tel: 703-689-0368 Fax: 703-689-2056 mailto:desm...@rheintech.com mailto:desm...@rheintech.com
Country of Origin/Made in xxx-Revisited
To all, The recent threads on Country of Origin and Made in xxx brought up many questions on this subject. So, I did some research. I appeared to get some answers and also created some more questions. Hopefully, members of the group can confirm or disagree with the items listed below. 1. US International Trade Commission (USITC) Requirements--According to the information I have obtained, there are no requirements for products being exported from the US. The Country of Origin requirements only pertain to products that are imported into the US. Do you agree? How does this requirement work for a US manufacturer that also has products built in another country such as Singapore? Do we need to mark the products manufactured in Singapore with Country of Origin for shipment into the US? 2. North American Free Trade Agreement (NAFTA) Requirements--If your product meets the preference criteria A-F as defined by the Agreement, you create a Certificate of Origin to get preferential tariff treatment. The US, Canada and Mexico all have their own Country of Origin marking requirements. Agree?? 3. US Federal Trade Commission Made in USA requirements--In order to label a product Made in USA, the product must be substantially all made in the US. A product will be considered substantially all made in the US if the product was last substantially transformed in the US and US manufacturing cost are at least 75% of total manufacturing costs; OR the product was last substantially transformed in the US and all significant parts were last substantially transformed in the US (substantially transformed refers to a manufacturing process that results in a new and different article of commerce, having a new name, character and use.) Agree?? 4. Countries other than the US Country of Origin Requirements--Does anybody have a list of Country of Origin marking requirements for various countries?? All responses are greatly appreciated. Regards Joe Martin --- This message is from the IEEE EMC Society Product Safety Technical Committee emc-pstc discussion list. Visit our web site at: http://www.ewh.ieee.org/soc/emcs/pstc/ To cancel your subscription, send mail to: majord...@ieee.org with the single line: unsubscribe emc-pstc For help, send mail to the list administrators: Ron Pickard: emc-p...@hypercom.com Dave Heald: davehe...@attbi.com For policy questions, send mail to: Richard Nute: ri...@ieee.org Jim Bacher: j.bac...@ieee.org All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: http://ieeepstc.mindcruiser.com/ Click on browse and then emc-pstc mailing list
