RE: Ethernet coax connection

2003-03-05 Thread Knighten, Jim L
Rich, I think you must be correct. I do have anecdotal evidence of persons being knocked on their butts by grabbing hold of an Ethernet coax in a large facility and trying to connect it to a computer. My experience is in EMC and the 10Base2 Ethernet (coax) is a persistent offender. (Actually,

RE: FDA Laser Requirements

2003-03-05 Thread Peter L. Tarver
Rich - An on-line search of those available (back to 1996) at the GPO web site shows no sign of 1002.61. However, my paper copy dated 1993 shows 1002.61 is the first subparagraph of Subpart G, Codes for Reporting Listed Electronic Products, and 1002.61 is titled, List of specific product

RE: Ethernet coax connection

2003-03-05 Thread Knighten, Jim L
Ken, It depends if compliance with the Ethernet standard is important to you. If you connect to anyone else's network where someone else may be dealing with a coax that is grounded on your end, then it is probably important. If not, then it may not matter. This is a product safety issue. I

E26/E27 Lamp-Base

2003-03-05 Thread Carl
Hi, Does anybody know the differences between E26 and E27(lamp base)? Thanks. Regards, Carl Yi This message is from the IEEE EMC Society Product Safety Technical Committee emc-pstc discussion list. Visit our web site at: http://www.ewh.ieee.org/soc/emcs/pstc/ To cancel your subscription,

RE: Ethernet coax connection

2003-03-05 Thread Stone, Richard A (Richard)
we've had good success with the built capacitance of 9000pf as well, depending on test being discussed and frequency, certain cap. values from the shielded ring of the UNgrounded ring to earth works well for low freq.. 30 mhz. Richard, From: Knighten, Jim L [mailto:jk100...@teradata-ncr.com]

RE: Ethernet coax connection

2003-03-05 Thread Knighten, Jim L
Ken, It is a potential shock hazard if the coax run is long and runs from building to building (for instance) where the ground potentials may be different in the different buildings. One can develop a large potential on the shield of the cable, so that if you put yourself between the cable

Fw, Yahoo Groups Recommendation?: Changes to IEEE emc-pstc web-based services...

2003-03-05 Thread Guy Boone
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Re: Ethernet coax connection

2003-03-05 Thread Ken Javor
Jim, Thank you! That took care of my concern. Ken on 3/5/03 4:11 PM, Knighten, Jim L at jk100...@teradata-ncr.com wrote: Ken, It is a potential shock hazard if the coax run is long and runs from building to building (for instance) where the ground potentials may be different in the

Re: Ethernet coax connection

2003-03-05 Thread Ken Javor
If all the ac equipment is powered by the same local source, and all the ac powered equipment is case-grounded within the same rack, is it correct to assume that the safety issue is moot? That is, can I then use a grounded bnc connector at both ends? on 3/5/03 4:02 PM, Robert Macy at

Re: Ethernet coax connection

2003-03-05 Thread Ken Javor
Assume complete ignorance on my part. What is the safety concern? on 3/5/03 3:50 PM, Knighten, Jim L at jk100...@teradata-ncr.com wrote: Ken, Safety considerations are the reason for the spec requirement. You are allowed to ground the shield at one point. Try using a BNC coax

RE: Ethernet coax connection

2003-03-05 Thread Knighten, Jim L
Ken, Safety considerations are the reason for the spec requirement. You are allowed to ground the shield at one point. Try using a BNC coax connector with a built-in capacitor to ground. That gives you an AC connection to ground and is often quite effective. These are off-the-shelf parts.

Ethernet coax connection

2003-03-05 Thread Ken Javor
Question for list members: Background: I am troubleshooting a complex integration of military hardware and COTS. One COTS piece of equipment has an RG-58 coaxial connection, but the coax connector is an isolated feedthrough bnc. From a radiated emissions point-of-view, that is hurting us.

Re: VDE 0100 Part 253, VDE 0298 Part 4

2003-03-05 Thread John Woodgate
I read in !emc-pstc that John Barnes jrbar...@iglou.com wrote (in 3e662c8b.7...@iglou.com) about 'VDE 0100 Part 253, VDE 0298 Part 4' on Wed, 5 Mar 2003: Do you know if there are any changes in the ampacity tables of BS 7671 between the 1992 and the 2001 editions? I'm not sure about 2001, but

RE: FDA Laser Requirements

2003-03-05 Thread richwo...@tycoint.com
The FDA says the correct reference is 1002.31. -Original Message- From: WOODS, RICHARD Sent: Wednesday, March 05, 2003 11:56 AM To: 'emc-pstc' Subject: FDA Laser Requirements 21CFR1002.30(b) refers to 1002.61 which does not exist. Does anyone know the correct

Need 230VAC-115VAC 500VA Step-down Isolation Transformer with UL, cUL, and CE

2003-03-05 Thread John Woodgate
I read in !emc-pstc that Bill Johnson bi...@kryotech.com wrote (in e853e3e85cf50a4f88d6aa80d9ab2c01624...@mail.conterra.com) about 'Need 230VAC-115VAC 500VA Step-down Isolation Transformer with UL, cUL, and CE' on Wed, 5 Mar 2003: Any advice on where to look or how to select such a component

Re: VDE 0100 Part 253, VDE 0298 Part 4

2003-03-05 Thread John Barnes
John, Thank you for the tip on BS 7671. Techstreet wants $215 for BS 7671:2001, which is a bit too much for my budget when the ampacity tables are all that I am looking for. (I've already ordered over $1017 in engineering books and standards this week-- my mailman is going to hate me, having to

FDA Laser Requirements

2003-03-05 Thread richwo...@tycoint.com
21CFR1002.30(b) refers to 1002.61 which does not exist. Does anyone know the correct reference? Richard Woods Sensormatic Electronics Tyco International This message is from the IEEE EMC Society Product Safety Technical Committee emc-pstc discussion list. Visit our web site at:

RE: programmable electronic loads; is load noise something to wat ch f or?

2003-03-05 Thread boconn...@t-yuden.com
CONFLICT OF INTEREST NOTICE: my employer makes component SMPSs A common problem, often perceived as noise, is when the control loop of the electronic load is operating at a beat frequency of one of the SMPS control loops. I typically use a quality (X/Y-rated) cap from the load test-power

RE: Class 2 laser

2003-03-05 Thread FastWave
IEC825-1 and CDRH requirements are focused on the laser product and incorporating provisions in the product for a safe installation. However, they do not include much on the actual installation and use/human interaction (other than for laser light shows). I recommend that you review NFPA115 -

Re: VDE 0100 Part 253, VDE 0298 Part 4

2003-03-05 Thread John Woodgate
I read in !emc-pstc that John Barnes jrbar...@iglou.com wrote (in 3e64d54d.7...@iglou.com) about 'VDE 0100 Part 253, VDE 0298 Part 4' on Tue, 4 Mar 2003: I am researching the ampacity (current-carrying capacity, Leitung in German) of wires for Appendix F of my book, Robust Electronic Design

Re: E.S. of plastic xstr case

2003-03-05 Thread Jim Ericson
Dear John: Well, maybe not the ten millionth, but at least the umpteenth! We are an A2LA Accredited Lab in Washington State ( in the quiet country midway between Seattle and Vancouver, British Columbia). Wyle indeed works here, and is quite proficient at EMI mitigation. During coffee breaks I

Re: RADIATED IMMUNITY - Some Actual Measurements of FS

2003-03-05 Thread Jim Ericson
Dave: I agree with your comments re: testing at 10 V/m, and then falling back to 3 V/m if there is a problem. This is a good way for a client to get almost free margin-testing data. I recommend it often to our clients. If you test to 3 V/m, you don't have a clue as to what would happen at 3.1