Re: [PSES] Scrolling H

2015-04-30 Thread John Woodgate
In message f2efb1f7-984a-4b3a-b606-767a591e1...@honeywell.com, dated Wed, 29 Apr 2015, Jones, Richard richard.jon...@honeywell.com writes: KN22 and KN24 are based on CISPR22 and 24 not the EN standards, In respect of 'scrolling H', EN 55024:2010 and CISPR 24:2010 do not differ. -- OOO -

Re: [PSES] Scrolling H

2015-04-30 Thread CR
One absolutely wonderful workaround might be user machine states displayed with labelled indicators incapable of scrolling anything. More realistically, perhaps the initial install could be done similarly to field firmware updates, using a JTAG header unreachable with the equipment closed and

[PSES] Consultant for UL498 and UL67

2015-04-30 Thread John Allen
Hi, We're in need of a consultant with experience in UL489 and UL67. A client has new IP that the NRTL's haven't seen yet. Please respond to me directly. John jral...@productsafetyinc.com - This message is from the IEEE

[PSES] CMAD Source

2015-04-30 Thread Kunde, Brian
Any recommendations on where to buy and where to get a good deal on Common Mode Absorbing Devices (CMAD) according to CISPR 16-1-4 and 2-3? They seem like a simple device and shouldn't cost all that much but I'm sure some will want top dollar for them. Is there any DIY instructions on the

Re: [PSES] CB Philosophy Questions

2015-04-30 Thread John Woodgate
In message cy1pr0701mb188350deb98388a86224efe8e3...@cy1pr0701mb1883.namprd07.prod.o utlook.com, dated Thu, 30 Apr 2015, Brian Ceresney bceres...@delta-q.com writes: When our CB report was issued, the engineer was not willing to add wording to the Critical Components list to allow alternate

Re: [PSES] CB Philosophy Questions

2015-04-30 Thread dougp01
Brian  I suggest you reference the IECEE website and read through the component acceptance requirements for each target country, including the USA. I haven't checked but there may also be such a document for the -2-29 you mention.  These can be found in the same general area as the national

Re: [PSES] CB Philosophy Questions

2015-04-30 Thread Brian Oconnell
Optos are an excellent example. There are a myriad of parameters that will allow the safe operation of a typical power supply that are not considered in certs per IEC60747-5-x and UL1577. Stuff such as CTR drift within the rated temperature range, themal de-rate for linear optos, frequency BW

Re: [PSES] CB Philosophy Questions

2015-04-30 Thread dougp01
Brian, Rules for component acceptance are submitted by each country to the IEC, archived in the IECEE website and posted in the same general area as national differences. You could simply try a Google search.  These documents are supposed to be official but I have found your mileage may vary.  

Re: [PSES] CB Philosophy Questions

2015-04-30 Thread dougp01
Try this link http://members.iecee.org/iecee/ieceemembers.nsf/ACRFList?readform ‎Doug.   Original Message   From: dougp01 Sent: Thursday, April 30, 2015 7:50 PM To: oconne...@tamuracorp.com; EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: Re: [PSES] CB Philosophy Questions Brian, Rules for component

Re: [PSES] CB Philosophy Questions

2015-04-30 Thread Brian Oconnell
In both procedural controls and scoped test standards, North America (NRTL/SCC/NOM) reports and the IECEE CB scheme are becoming more similar where state-enforced codes do not contradict the scoped standard. It has been several years since the NRTLs and other test agencies have routinely

Re: [PSES] CB Philosophy Questions

2015-04-30 Thread Brian Oconnell
Doug, Thanks, will look for this stuff. The only stuff seen to date for component evaluation is in UL PAGs, CSA informs, and the IECEE CTL stuff. Are these component acceptance 'guides' part of the National Differences in a TRF, or regulatory law administered by the state? According to the

Re: [PSES] CB Philosophy Questions

2015-04-30 Thread Kevin Robinson
All, You may want to reach out to the National Committee in your Country, For the US National Committee (USNC), the best point of contact would be Joel Solis at NEMA who serves as the Secretary. They might be able to bring this up at a future CB Scheme meeting and encourage all countries to

Re: [PSES] CB Philosophy Questions

2015-04-30 Thread Ted Eckert
Hello Brian, Most CB Test Laboratories (CBTLs) will allow and accept the use of the term interchangeable for some components. However, there are a few CBTLs that will not accept this term and they require each and every alternate source to be explicitly listed. If you indicated to your test

[PSES] CB Philosophy Questions

2015-04-30 Thread Brian Ceresney
Greetings, Compliance Experts, I'm finding myself in a curious situation, and wondering if you have had similar experiences, and may have some advice to share. We are in the process of using a CB report for an industrial battery charger( to IEC60335-2-29) to obtain an in-country certification