Dear Steli,
It is our honor to have you in the group to help.
Thank you so much!!!
Best regards,
Grace Lin
On Sat, Oct 24, 2015 at 10:26 AM, <sloz...@ieee.org> wrote:
> Dear Grace,
>
> As a professional involved in the IECEE CB Scheme(I am an IECEE Lead and
> Technical Aud
Dear Members,
Could you please help me to understand CB scheme from the EMC point of
view? More specifically:
1. Is any standard outside of the accepted standards (
http://members.iecee.org/iecee/ieceemembers.nsf/IECEEScopeInStandard) ) not
accepted?
2. Is there any specific (qualification
Does anyone know of a lab that can produce a CB Scheme Report to IEC
60529 for IP54 rating?
Best Regards,
X-Antispam: NO; Spamcatcher 4.1.11. Score 2
Jody Leber
Program Manager
jody.le...@motorola.com
http://www.motorola.com/producttesting
Motorola Product Testing Services
1700 Belle
I don't know if you will find any North American lab with IEC 60529 in their
scope under the CB Scheme. I took a quick look at the CB Scheme web site and
the standard didn't show up under the scope for UL, CSA or Intertek.
For Europe, I only looked at VDE, TÜV Rheinleand and TÜV SÜD, and IEC
60529 testing is not usually a large part of a homologation exercise.
I'd expect to be able to persuade a CB scheme member to accept
results from any nationally accredited lab so long as the report
format and back-up paperwork was appropriate.
Contact me off line if you want recommendations
In message
768ee6ab7d56d54bb5000ec2dd113e710453a...@de01exm61.ds.mot.com, dated
Tue, 2 Sep 2008, Leber Jody-G19980 jody.le...@motorola.com writes:
Does anyone know of a lab that can produce a CB Scheme Report to IEC
60529 for IP54 rating?
Is there a US national or other standard
not
exactly) the same ratings as NEMA 250.
Ted Eckert
The opinions expressed are my own and are not necessarily those of my employer.
--- On Tue, 9/2/08, John Woodgate j...@jmwa.demon.co.uk wrote:
From: John Woodgate j...@jmwa.demon.co.uk
Subject: Re: IEC 60529 IP54 with CB Scheme
CB scheme doesn't include EMC.
The referenced standard may have tests included which are similar to the ones
referenced in the EMC standards, but this doesn't mean CB scheme includes EMC.
Best Regards
Lothar Schmidt
Director Regulatory Antenna Services
CETECOM Inc.
411 Dixon Landing Road
Grace,
Yes it does but from the regulatory standpoint, it does not mean very much
except for the countries that have are members of the IEC and participate in
the emc CB scheme (not many)
Depending on product category, some countries like Brazil, Israel and China
still require in-country emc
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Subject: Re: Does CB Scheme Covers EMC
Hello Grace,
EMC is covered under the CB Scheme in some circumstances. Typically,
the
EMC is only covered if the applicable safety standard requires EMC
testing.
One example is IEC 60335-1. This standard includes some EMC testing for
surges
Hello Grace,
EMC is covered under the CB Scheme in some circumstances. Typically, the
EMC is only covered if the applicable safety standard requires EMC testing.
One example is IEC 60335-1. This standard includes some EMC testing for
surges and transients. A CB report to IEC 60335-1
Dear members,
Could you please comment if CB scheme covers EMC? Years ago, CB scheme
covered Safety only. I would like to learn if EMC can be covered at this time.
Thank you.
Best regards,
Grace
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03/01/2007 12:22 EMC IECEE CB Scheme
of the supplier copies of a test
report from an accredited competent test lab.
One possible reason for the lack of use may be costs, and until
it is enforced by governments, it is an uneccessary expense. If
the safety CB Scheme is anything to judge by, the minute you
mention the CB Scheme your costs
Hi folks,
A year or so back the IEC decided to extend the IECEE CB Scheme to cover EMC
as well as safety. The list of EMC standards which can be used in conjunction
with this scheme is given at http://www.iecee.org/CBSCHEME/Standard/emc.htm -
it is quite a list!
The IECEE have more recently
was: what was the legal
ground to require TEST RESULTS / REPORTS to pass the customs.
John Radomski
John Allen
, emc-p...@ieee.org
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to the authorities and off it went. (I still don't remember sending
the test reports etc - but its been awhile)
Gary
From: john.radom...@modicon.com [mailto:john.radom...@modicon.com]
Sent: Wednesday, August 04, 2004 4:54 AM
To: emc-p...@ieee.org
Sub! ject: RE: IEC and the CB Scheme
http://www.ieee
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Subject: RE: IEC and the CB Scheme
http://www.ieee-pses.org/symposium
http://www.emc2004.org/
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I've never been stopped due to a lack of test reports - or the
technical construction file
the test reports etc - but its been awhile)
Gary
From: john.radom...@modicon.com [mailto:john.radom...@modicon.com]
Sent: Wednesday, August 04, 2004 4:54 AM
To: emc-p...@ieee.org
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http://www.ieee-pses.org/symposium
http://www.emc2004.org/
I have
, 2004 12:28 AM
To: Dan Anchondo; emc-p...@ieee.org
Subject: Re: IEC and the CB Scheme
Hello Dan,
No, a CB Test Report is not required to make a European CE Declaration.
Typically for CE, the manufacturer gets his product tested in his own
accredited laboratory or at a third party laboratory
: IEC and the
CB Scheme
owner-emc-pstc@listse
rv.ieee.org
08/04/2004 08:21 AM
http://www.ieee-pses.org/symposium http://www.emc2004.org/
John R
The product must have the CE mark. Before you apply the mark you must HAVE
Message-
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Sent: 04 August 2004 12:54
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http://www.ieee-pses.org/symposium
http://www.emc2004.org/
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I
pmerguerian2...@yahoo.com, Dan Anchondo dancho...@vivotech.com,
emc-p...@ieee.org
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CB Scheme
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: Monday, August 02, 2004 8:35 AM
To: John Allen; Brian O'Connell; peter merguerian; Dan Anchondo;
emc-p...@ieee.org
Subject: RE: IEC and the CB Scheme
Hi John,
I think there is a lot of basic education but some of this basic education
that I have seen does not really line up with the impartial info
;
emc-p...@ieee.org
Subject: RE: IEC and the CB Scheme
Hi John,
I think there is a lot of basic education but some of this basic education
that I have seen does not really line up with the impartial info that you
mention in your guide.
Many (ignorant) manufacturers, seeking for a CE certification
are of minor value, sometimes not even existing.
Regards,
Kris
From: John Allen [mailto:john.al...@era.co.uk]
Sent: maandag 2 augustus 2004 16:36
To: Carpentier Kristiaan; Brian O'Connell; peter merguerian; Dan Anchondo;
emc-p...@ieee.org
Subject: RE: IEC and the CB Scheme
Kris,
Re 2nd
.
luck,
Brian
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From: Carpentier Kristiaan [ mailto:kristiaan.carpent...@thomson.net]
Sent: Monday, August 02, 2004 7:15 AM
To: Brian O'Connell; peter merguerian; Dan Anchondo; emc-p...@ieee.org
Subject: RE: IEC and the CB Scheme
Brain,
Most testreports I read
Kristiaan [mailto:kristiaan.carpent...@thomson.net]
Sent: 02 August 2004 15:15
To: Brian O'Connell; peter merguerian; Dan Anchondo; emc-p...@ieee.org
Subject: RE: IEC and the CB Scheme
http://www.ieee-pses.org/symposium http://www.emc2004.org/
--
Brain
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mailto:owner-emc-p...@listserv.ieee.org]On Behalf Of Brian O'Connell
Sent: maandag 2 augustus 2004 15:26
To: peter merguerian; Dan Anchondo; emc-p...@ieee.org
Subject: RE: IEC and the CB Scheme
http://www.ieee-pses.org/symposium http://www.emc2004.org
Anchondo; emc-p...@ieee.org
Subject: Re: IEC and the CB Scheme
Hello Dan,
No, a CB Test Report is not required to make a European CE Declaration.
Typically for CE, the manufacturer gets his product tested in his own
accredited laboratory or at a third party laboratory and declares compliance
http://www.ieee-pses.org/symposium http://www.emc2004.org/
--
Hello Dan,
No, a CB Test Report is not required to make a European CE Declaration.
Typically for CE, the manufacturer gets his product tested in his own
accredited laboratory or at a
...@listserv.ieee.org
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Sent: Friday, July 30, 2004 4:28 PM
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Subject: RE: IEC and the CB Scheme
http://www.ieee-pses.org/symposium http://www.emc2004.org
own CB reports.
There is no such thing as a CE safety report.
luck,
Brian
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From: Dan Anchondo [ mailto:dancho...@vivotech.com]
Sent: Friday, July 30, 2004 12:09 PM
To: emc-p...@ieee.org
Subject: IEC and the CB Scheme
All
Can somebody point to a link
http://www.ieee-pses.org/symposium http://www.emc2004.org/
--
All
Can somebody point to a link that requires a CB report for ITE for a CE safety
report. My list of target countries has week to week changes so would it be
useful to have a CB on my
Hello Group,
I would like to know if anyone has submitted product under the CB-fcs Scheme
instead of the standard CB Scheme? What are the proven advantages and
disadvantages? Any assistance in this would be greatly appreciated.
David Cereceres
Pelco
mailto:dcerece...@pelco.com mailto:dcerece
Doug-
an other interessing site is:
http://www.yung-li.com.tw/Pages/info/Safety_Marks.htm
Allan
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To: EMC-PSTC (E-mail) emc-p...@ieee.org
Sent: Saturday, February 03, 2001 4:08 AM
Subject: CB Scheme Participating Countries
@ieee.org on 02/02/2001 03:08:01 PM
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Sent by: owner-emc-p...@ieee.org
To: EMC-PSTC (E-mail) emc-p...@ieee.org
cc:
Subject: CB Scheme Participating Countries
Hello group,
I don't know about you, but I've often struggled with finding
Raymond,
following web site answers your question http://www.cbscheme.org/cbcntris.htm
Best Regards
Fred Adt
Raymond Li raymond...@omnisourceasia.com.hk 11/21/00 07:13PM
Can anyone tell me where I can find a list of participant
bodies/laboratories of CB scheme.
Thanks,
Raymond Li
Omni
ia.com.HK cc:
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bodies of CB scheme
owner-emc-p
Can anyone tell me where I can find a list of participant
bodies/laboratories of CB scheme.
Thanks,
Raymond Li
Omni Source Asia Ltd
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I thank all those who corrected my posted URL for the CB Scheme!
After 37 years of professional experience, I could claim that the clock
rate of the CPU in my head is the same as 1963, but that my fingers
are far faster. Alas, I fear the opposite is the more likely scenario.
George
To all,
Now that Australia and New Zealand have published their version of IEC
60950 3rd edition and with the US Canada nearing final approval of UL
60950 3rd edition and with (as I understand it) CENELEC nearing release of
EN 60950 3rd edition, where is the CB Scheme positioned?
When
relation to CB Scheme?
Laboratory assessments within the CB-scheme have been based on the ISO/IEC
Guide 25 (General requirements for the competence of calibration and
testing laboratories) in the past, but will be done acc. to the newer
version ISO/IEC 17025 (General requirements for the competence
...@majordomo.ieee.org
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SCHEME
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Nakamura-san,
If my memory serves, EN45001 is a European Norm (EN) for
a Declaration of Conformity. I believe it existed prior
to the CB Scheme. However, it is one of several acceptable
means to declare conformity to the applicable EU Directives.
George Alspaugh
jakamura%naka.melco.co
Dear All,
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Mr. Michael and Mr. Alspaugh
Thank you very much for your replies to my CB Scheme question.
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NEW QUESTION:
What are test reports according to EN45001?
Does EN45001 have relation to CB Scheme?
Thank you in advance,
Jun Nakamura
Hello Mr. Nakamura,
The CB-Scheme in an international scheme, under the auspices of the IEC,
which provides a means for acceptance of test-data (and reports - in some
cases) between the testing certification agencies of 30+ countries.
There is no direct relationship to LVD and EMC directives
Dear Nakamura-san;
The best explanation of the CB Scheme is at www.cbscheme.org .
It is a global reciprocity agreement dealing with IEC 60950 for the
safety of ITE products. If one CB (certification body) generates a
CB test report for a product, all other members are to accept the
test
Dear All,
What is CB SCHEME?
and
the relation to the LVD and EMC?
Thank you in advance,
Jun Nakamura
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There are several questions that periodically arise regarding
country standards and so on. A page in a recent CB Bulletin
summarizes a good deal of information that may be helpful.
CB Bulletin OJ
No. 94AI, March 1999
Page 97
The matrix on this page lists:
31 participating CB Scheme countries
the data, and use what they can to proceed. They WILL,
however have to cover the national deviations for Canada with whatever
testing may additionally be required.
A third option you may have is the CB Scheme route, where if a CB
(Certified Body) member agency in any one of the 40(??) or so
subscribing
Well, this has been rather informative, but
the CB scheme as I understand it is specific
about exactly what test data is involved.
Right now, it's mainly safety related
testing, no?
In other words, you could be testing a product
in country A who participates in the CB Scheme.
The tests
The CB Scheme is a standard set of tests to IEC 950
(now IEC 60950) requirements. It does not include
emissions, immunity, and telephone requirements
beyond IEC 60950. For example, the Nordic countries
used to require both safety and EMC data for approval
to use their marks. As a result
Hello George Doug,
The CB Scheme, providing for the mutual acceptance of electrical safety
test data, among 30+ countries, covers 14+ product categories and is
certainly not limited to ITE.
An extension of the CB Scheme to provide for the mutual acceptance of EMC
test data has been in effect
Yes Douglas, CB scheme is only related to Safety and has nothing to do with
EMC and Telecom. --Barry Ma.
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From: Douglas Mckean dmck...@corp.auspex.com, on 9/15/98 5:36 PM:
Well, this has been rather informative, but
the CB scheme as I understand it is specific
about
I would like to clarify a misconception about the CB SCHEME stated in
Mr. Juan P. Pena's contribution to the PSTC current conversation. e.g.;
The CB scheme only works with the official
organization in every country (UL in USA, VDE in Germany, etc.). For
example, all the German TUV's are outside
Hello from San Diego:
A complete list of CB Scheme NCBs is available at:
http://www.cbscheme.org/cbcntris.htm
The following countries have multiple NCBs:
Germany
VDE
TUV Rheinland
TUV Product Service
India
BIS
STQC
U.K
After going looking at the site Rich Nute provided, I see no reference
to South American countries. Are South America countries part of the CB
scheme as well?
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There are no South American countries currently
participating in the CB Scheme.
George Alspaugh
Lexmark International
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bcc: George Alspaugh
Hi Rick:
After going looking at the site Rich Nute provided, I see no reference
to South American countries. Are South America countries part of the CB
scheme as well?
Nope.
And none in Central America.
Only one in Africa.
Only three in Asia (China, Japan, and Singapore).
Only
Dear Colleagues,
1). If the subject is the CB Scheme, then we know that in Canada ONLY
CSA is accredited to perform Test and Evaluation in order to issue a CB
Scheme Report (Certificate).
In the USA, several locations of Intertek Testing Services have the
accreditation for this job. I
report is useful, but, unfortunately is
only the beginning.
This is one of those examples of the CB scheme not being the 'be-all'
and 'end-all', but it certainly helps. If you would like further
information, please feel free to contact me.
Bob Martin
Sr. Technical Manager - Northeast
Intertek
Hi Charles:
I have been told that the Russian Authorities
will only accept a CB report from Nemko. Is this true?
I don't believe this is true as this is against the basic
idea of the CB Scheme. A CB Certificate and Test Report
is universal, regardless of the issuing organization
://www.ball.com/aerospace/ieee_emc.html
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From: Peter Tarver[SMTP:peter.tarver.ptar...@nt.com]
Reply To: Peter Tarver
Sent: Monday, June 22, 1998 4:28 PM
To:emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org
Subject: RE: CB scheme
Gary -
You seem to be doing just fine for your current market
Gary -
You seem to be doing just fine for your current market. As you market
expands (you mentioned GOST), however, the CB Scheme Test Report does offer
portability to a greater degree than a lesser. Many of the agencies will
want a sample for a looksee, a few may want to perform minor
product to the German certifier. The cost of one
test (i.e., CB test), is probably less than two tests (e.g.,
North America and Germany).
As for submittals using the CB Scheme, IECEE 02 Sub-clause
6.3.5 states: The NCBs are encouraged to handle applications
for recognition of CB Test Certificates
they reside.
Given that what are the advantages I am not seeing in a CB
scheme report?
On the face of it a CB scheme report seems to be the proverbial
one-stop-shopping solution we would all like to see. But as I check into
it further a CB report doesn't seem to really provide a final answer.
Each
Midcom, Inc.
Homologations Engineer Phone: (605) 882-8535
mpeder...@midcom.anza.com Fax: (605) 886-6752
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From: Michael Cusanelli[SMTP:m...@phihongusa.com]
Sent: Monday, January 19, 1998 6:19 PM
To: emc- pstc
Subject:List Of Countries in CB Scheme
Does anyone
PSNet
The most definitive way to get the list of countries that are
accepted into the CB Scheme is to subscribe to the CB Bulletin OC. This
may be ordered thru your National Certification Body else subscribe
directly thru the IEC office in Geneva.
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Peter E
Hello Michael
The best source of information is the CB Bulletin, a subscription
publication which costs less than US$100.00 per year. It can be ordered
from ANSI (in the US) or IEC (in Geneva). Beyond that, try the CB Scheme
website at:
http://www.cbscheme.org
where you will find
Does anyone know where I can get a lisiting of all the countires who are
part of the CB Scheme for IEC950?
Regards,
Michael Cusanelli
Phihong USA
Thank you Rolf,
So here's another question -
If a company from outside the US wants to use the
CB Scheme, who is the Body A within the US so that
they can go to a Body B in say India or China?
I am assuming the CB Scheme is valid for the
following products:
IEC 950,Information
The point I was trying to relate was one of an experience with the CB scheme
and Telecom equipment. I wanted to point out that for TTE in Australia you need
to have an electrical safety test done. The testing must be done by an Austel
accredited (NAMAS) lab. And the safety standard for telecom
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