Re: [Emc-users] OT: Possible Retrofit candidate for someone in the heartland

2012-01-24 Thread Eric Keller
On Mon, Jan 23, 2012 at 10:20 PM, Stuart Stevenson stus...@gmail.comwrote: The motor was probably removed by the same process that modified the control boxes. That's pretty sad to see. It really looks like the whole thing has been on its side, and it's hard to believe there isn't significant

Re: [Emc-users] [OT]Moveing pcb-gcode generated files to the milling machine=huge PIMA

2012-01-24 Thread Mark Wendt
On 01/23/2012 02:16 PM, gene heskett wrote: Thanks Mark, but I think NFS is going to solve my problems in that regard. After 14 years of failure, I made it work, with a lot of help from this list, this morning. Sweet! Shame on the man page writers for abstracting the requirements till nobody

Re: [Emc-users] OT: Possible Retrofit candidate for someone in the heartland

2012-01-24 Thread andy pugh
On 22 January 2012 08:07, a...@conceptmachinery.com wrote: why retrofit bridgeport machine when one can buy cnc machine X 50 Y 26 travel CNC mill for $6.5 k That machine cost $85k new, so the standard of bearings, castings, screws etc is likely to be a lot better than a built-down-to-a-price

Re: [Emc-users] Open letter to the EMC Board of Directors

2012-01-24 Thread Sven Wesley
2012/1/24 gene heskett ghesk...@wdtv.com On Monday, January 23, 2012 11:57:10 PM Jeff Epler did opine: Michael, I would like to address your concerns over the quality of the rebranding changes and the degree of consideration that they were given before they were made. I can speak

Re: [Emc-users] Communication Channels (Was: An Open Letter...)

2012-01-24 Thread andy pugh
On 24 January 2012 13:47, Sven Wesley svenne.d...@gmail.com wrote: 3. There are too many info channels! Close down the forum on the LinuxCNC website ASAP! It doesn't work, Google can't make correct forward links and some browsers fail to show it. There is an active forum at cnczone I

Re: [Emc-users] Communication Channels (Was: An Open Letter...)

2012-01-24 Thread andy pugh
On 24 January 2012 13:47, Sven Wesley svenne.d...@gmail.com wrote: Google can't make correct forward links I just tried a search for something I knew would find the LinuxCNC website forum, and it worked fine. Can you elaborate on this point? -- atp The idea that there is no such thing as

Re: [Emc-users] Communication Channels (Was: An Open Letter...)

2012-01-24 Thread Spiderdab
On mar, 2012-01-24 at 14:10 +, andy pugh wrote: On 24 January 2012 13:47, Sven Wesley svenne.d...@gmail.com wrote: 3. There are too many info channels! Close down the forum on the LinuxCNC website ASAP! It doesn't work, Google can't make correct forward links and some browsers fail to

Re: [Emc-users] Open letter to the EMC Board of Directors

2012-01-24 Thread John Thornton
Why on earth would you want to close down the LinuxCNC forum and shift to a commercial laden for profit forum? There is nothing more annoying that waiting for all the commercials to load and clutter up your screen at the zone. Do you work for or derive profit the zone? John On 1/24/2012 7:47

Re: [Emc-users] Open letter to the EMC Board of Directors

2012-01-24 Thread Kent A. Reed
On 1/24/2012 8:47 AM, Sven Wesley wrote: 3. There are too many info channels! Close down the forum on the LinuxCNC website ASAP! It doesn't work, Google can't make correct forward links and some browsers fail to show it. There is an active forum at cnczone (I'll fix the renaming), there's a

Re: [Emc-users] Rotary homing.

2012-01-24 Thread Ed Nisley
On Tue, 2012-01-24 at 00:12 -0500, gene heskett wrote: Its doing all moves on the .bot. files in negative X from the reference point I'm pretty sure there's a checkbox along the way that reads Mirror X axis to make that answer come out right without any further attention. The Eagle gerbv274x

Re: [Emc-users] Communication Channels (Was: An Open Letter...)

2012-01-24 Thread Eric Keller
On Tue, Jan 24, 2012 at 9:10 AM, andy pugh bodge...@gmail.com wrote: The LinuxCNC forum shows 14,000 posts to 8,000 for the cnczone one. I (personally) find the cnczone forum rather hard to find, at the end of a very long list, and I don't think that the sub-forums are broken down small

Re: [Emc-users] Communication Channels (Was: An Open Letter...)

2012-01-24 Thread Lester Caine
Eric Keller wrote: The LinuxCNC forum shows 14,000 posts to 8,000 for the cnczone one. I (personally) find the cnczone forum rather hard to find, at the end of a very long list, and I don't think that the sub-forums are broken down small enough. Seems to me that the CNCzone moderator

Re: [Emc-users] Pico Sytems UPC and a Hardinge CHNC

2012-01-24 Thread Jon Elson
Kirk Wallace wrote: but I used the paradigm of a switch closure at the time I did the installation, after giving it more thought and referring to: http://pico-systems.com/images/univstep.png it looks as if the inputs already go to an opto-isolator on the UPC anyway. It may be that a

Re: [Emc-users] Communication Channels (Was: An Open Letter...)

2012-01-24 Thread Jon Elson
andy pugh wrote: On 24 January 2012 13:47, Sven Wesley svenne.d...@gmail.com wrote: 3. There are too many info channels! Close down the forum on the LinuxCNC website ASAP! It doesn't work, Google can't make correct forward links and some browsers fail to show it. There is an active forum

Re: [Emc-users] Open letter to the EMC Board of Directors

2012-01-24 Thread Jon Elson
John Thornton wrote: Why on earth would you want to close down the LinuxCNC forum and shift to a commercial laden for profit forum? There is nothing more annoying that waiting for all the commercials to load and clutter up your screen at the zone. Do you work for or derive profit the zone?

Re: [Emc-users] Pico Sytems UPC and a Hardinge CHNC

2012-01-24 Thread Kirk Wallace
On Tue, 2012-01-24 at 12:26 -0600, Jon Elson wrote: Kirk Wallace wrote: but I used the paradigm of a switch closure at the time I did the installation, after giving it more thought and referring to: http://pico-systems.com/images/univstep.png it looks as if the inputs already go to

Re: [Emc-users] Open letter to the EMC Board of Directors

2012-01-24 Thread John Thornton
That is the main reason I don't go to the zone as with my 1Mb (sometimes that good sometimes not so good) it takes 30 minutes to load a page then you have to navigate all the ads to find the forum... John On 1/24/2012 12:36 PM, Jon Elson wrote: John Thornton wrote: Why on earth would you

Re: [Emc-users] Open letter to the EMC Board of Directors

2012-01-24 Thread Karl Schmidt
On 01/24/2012 12:36 PM, Jon Elson wrote: Oh, that's a different story. The performance of CNCzone was never great, but tolerable. NOW, it is EXECRABLE! I have a 20 MB/s internet, and I often have to wait a MINUTE for the ads to load before I can see some discussion. Their It is easy to

Re: [Emc-users] [OT]Moveing pcb-gcode generated files to the milling machine=huge PIMA

2012-01-24 Thread gene heskett
On Tuesday, January 24, 2012 01:46:15 PM Rafael Skodlar did opine: [...] What I have in all my Linux workstations is this: - in konsole (my favorite GUI terminal) I open a number of tabs. First one is always reserved for root. I label it root and to use it I normally do sudo su - I

Re: [Emc-users] Open letter to the EMC Board of Directors

2012-01-24 Thread Kirk Wallace
On Tue, 2012-01-24 at 12:42 -0600, John Thornton wrote: That is the main reason I don't go to the zone as with my 1Mb (sometimes that good sometimes not so good) it takes 30 minutes to load a page then you have to navigate all the ads to find the forum... John Thank goodness for the

Re: [Emc-users] Open letter to the EMC Board of Directors

2012-01-24 Thread Chris Radek
On Tue, Jan 24, 2012 at 11:31:11AM -0800, Kirk Wallace wrote: Thank goodness for the servers that host our website, wiki and such. It looks like PMDX gets credit for this. Thank you. Nope. SWP pays for our advertisement-free hosting of the website, web forum, and wiki. He and Alex and

Re: [Emc-users] Open letter to the EMC Board of Directors

2012-01-24 Thread stevesng
Thank goodness for the servers that host our website, wiki and such. It looks like PMDX gets credit for this. Thank you. -- Kirk Wallace Duh, well once upon a time, but not any longer. I think that credit now goes to Stephen Willie Padnos and DreamHost. Perhaps you could point out the

Re: [Emc-users] Open letter to the EMC Board of Directors

2012-01-24 Thread Kirk Wallace
On Tue, 2012-01-24 at 11:41 -0800, steve...@newsguy.com wrote: Thank goodness for the servers that host our website, wiki and such. It looks like PMDX gets credit for this. Thank you. -- Kirk Wallace Duh, well once upon a time, but not any longer. I think that credit now goes to Stephen

[Emc-users] question about tapered threading

2012-01-24 Thread Kent A. Reed
Gentle persons: Several items were called out recently as being show stoppers for LinuxCNC. I do not aspire to learn the inner workings of LinuxCNC well enough to contribute to discussion of the first item, No jog on feedhold. However, the second item Taper thread pitches are measured along

Re: [Emc-users] Thank Who? was: Open letter to the EMC Board of Directors

2012-01-24 Thread Kirk Wallace
On Tue, 2012-01-24 at 13:48 -0600, Chris Radek wrote: On Tue, Jan 24, 2012 at 11:31:11AM -0800, Kirk Wallace wrote: Thank goodness for the servers that host our website, wiki and such. It looks like PMDX gets credit for this. Thank you. Nope. SWP pays for our advertisement-free hosting

Re: [Emc-users] question about tapered threading

2012-01-24 Thread Kirk Wallace
On Tue, 2012-01-24 at 16:09 -0500, Kent A. Reed wrote: ... snip how else they cut tapered threads on a lathe in the old days, My guess is by using a taper attachment: http://its.fvtc.edu/machshop2/operations/taperw_attach.htm http://www.lathes.co.uk/hardinge/img19.gif

Re: [Emc-users] question about tapered threading

2012-01-24 Thread andy pugh
On 24 January 2012 21:09, Kent A. Reed knbr...@erols.com wrote: At best I'm a dilettante with machine tools and certainly I'm no expert with a lathe. That not withstanding, long, long ago, I was taught to cut a tapered thread on a manual lathe by shifting the tailstock over. It seems to me

Re: [Emc-users] OT: Possible Retrofit candidate for someone in the heartland

2012-01-24 Thread Dave
On 1/24/2012 3:49 AM, Eric Keller wrote: On Mon, Jan 23, 2012 at 10:20 PM, Stuart Stevensonstus...@gmail.comwrote: The motor was probably removed by the same process that modified the control boxes. That's pretty sad to see. It really looks like the whole thing has been on its

Re: [Emc-users] Open letter to the EMC Board of Directors

2012-01-24 Thread Dave
I entirely agree. There is nothing wrong with the forum as it is. The CNCZone is not open and could go to a paid subscription service in a heartbeat. Dave On 1/24/2012 9:56 AM, John Thornton wrote: Why on earth would you want to close down the LinuxCNC forum and shift to a commercial laden

Re: [Emc-users] Open letter to the EMC Board of Directors

2012-01-24 Thread Moses McKnight
On 01/24/2012 12:36 PM, Jon Elson wrote: John Thornton wrote: Why on earth would you want to close down the LinuxCNC forum and shift to a commercial laden for profit forum? There is nothing more annoying that waiting for all the commercials to load and clutter up your screen at the zone. Do

Re: [Emc-users] question about tapered threading (etc)

2012-01-24 Thread John Prentice
- Original Message - From: Kent A. Reed knbr...@erols.com Several items were called out recently as being show stoppers for LinuxCNC. I do not aspire to learn the inner workings of LinuxCNC well enough to contribute to discussion of the first item, No jog on feedhold. However,

Re: [Emc-users] question about tapered threading (etc)

2012-01-24 Thread andy pugh
On 24 January 2012 21:52, John Prentice j...@castlewd.freeserve.co.uk wrote: (b) For most practical tapered pipe threads no one will notice the pitch error. On one hand I think it is unusual CNC behaviour in threading (so possible difficulties for CAM users without a special postprocessor).

Re: [Emc-users] [OT]pcb-gcode, bug?

2012-01-24 Thread gene heskett
On Tuesday, January 24, 2012 05:34:12 PM Fox Mulder did opine: Am 23.01.2012 01:23, schrieb gene heskett: Greetings all; I just ran it and had it generate a bunch of stuff I copied to the mill, and I recall seeing a checkmark in the setup menu that asked if I wanted the bottom flipped

Re: [Emc-users] question about tapered threading (etc)

2012-01-24 Thread Kenneth Lerman
On 1/24/2012 4:52 PM, John Prentice wrote: - Original Message - From: Kent A. Reedknbr...@erols.com Several items were called out recently as being show stoppers for LinuxCNC. I do not aspire to learn the inner workings of LinuxCNC well enough to contribute to discussion of the

Re: [Emc-users] question about tapered threading

2012-01-24 Thread Steve Blackmore
On Tue, 24 Jan 2012 16:09:34 -0500, you wrote: Not being able to imagine (I said limited brain, remember) how else they cut tapered threads on a lathe in the old days, I expect the standard specifications (ASME B1.20.1, fer instance) of the times would reflect this. Hi Kent Commercially

Re: [Emc-users] Rotary homing.

2012-01-24 Thread gene heskett
On Tuesday, January 24, 2012 05:55:14 PM Ed Nisley did opine: On Tue, 2012-01-24 at 00:12 -0500, gene heskett wrote: Its doing all moves on the .bot. files in negative X from the reference point I'm pretty sure there's a checkbox along the way that reads Mirror X axis to make that answer

Re: [Emc-users] question about tapered threading

2012-01-24 Thread andy pugh
On 24 January 2012 22:54, Steve Blackmore st...@pilotltd.net wrote: My CAM programs know this, and cut the threads accordingly - unfortunately they turn out wrong. With the ability to remap G-codes which is in Master it will be possible to re-map G33 to calculate the trigonometric correction

Re: [Emc-users] question about tapered threading (etc)

2012-01-24 Thread dave
On Tue, 24 Jan 2012 23:33:04 + andy pugh bodge...@gmail.com wrote: On 24 January 2012 22:52, Kenneth Lerman kenneth.ler...@se-ltd.com wrote: 4 -- Hire someone to do #2. (Don't even ask -- I have two prices for my work on LinuxCNC, the first is free and you probably can't afford the

Re: [Emc-users] Open letter to the EMC Board of Directors

2012-01-24 Thread gene heskett
On Tuesday, January 24, 2012 07:50:23 PM Dave did opine: On 1/24/2012 2:48 PM, Chris Radek wrote: On Tue, Jan 24, 2012 at 11:31:11AM -0800, Kirk Wallace wrote: Thank goodness for the servers that host our website, wiki and such. It looks like PMDX gets credit for this. Thank you.

Re: [Emc-users] Open letter to the EMC Board of Directors

2012-01-24 Thread Stuart Stevenson
On Tue, Jan 24, 2012 at 6:53 PM, gene heskett ghesk...@wdtv.com wrote: On Tuesday, January 24, 2012 07:50:23 PM Dave did opine: On 1/24/2012 2:48 PM, Chris Radek wrote: On Tue, Jan 24, 2012 at 11:31:11AM -0800, Kirk Wallace wrote: Thank goodness for the servers that host our website,

Re: [Emc-users] Open letter to the EMC Board of Directors

2012-01-24 Thread andy pugh
On 25 January 2012 00:53, gene heskett ghesk...@wdtv.com wrote: For the help I have received, durn tootin I'll donate.  But I'd prefer you who are footing the bills agree I was thinking about this while doing the dishes. Something I have never seen is a donate button that shows the current

Re: [Emc-users] question about tapered threading

2012-01-24 Thread Kent A. Reed
Thanks, Andy, Kirk, John, and Steve, for the input on lathe taper attachments. It took me a minute to realize what I was looking at but then the light bulb turned on. Obviously, I never made it past the row of entry-level South Bend lathes in my own work, although I was acutely aware of the

Re: [Emc-users] question about tapered threading

2012-01-24 Thread Jon Elson
Kent A. Reed wrote: At best I'm a dilettante with machine tools and certainly I'm no expert with a lathe. That not withstanding, long, long ago, I was taught to cut a tapered thread on a manual lathe by shifting the tailstock over. It seems to me this would necessarily mean the thread pitch

Re: [Emc-users] question about tapered threading (etc)

2012-01-24 Thread John Kasunich
On Tue, Jan 24, 2012, at 10:02 PM, andy pugh wrote: On 24 January 2012 21:52, John Prentice j...@castlewd.freeserve.co.uk wrote: (b) For most practical tapered pipe threads no one will notice the pitch error. On one hand I think it is unusual CNC behaviour in threading (so possible

Re: [Emc-users] question about tapered threading

2012-01-24 Thread Kent A. Reed
On 1/24/2012 11:34 PM, Jon Elson wrote: Kent A. Reed wrote: At best I'm a dilettante with machine tools and certainly I'm no expert with a lathe. That not withstanding, long, long ago, I was taught to cut a tapered thread on a manual lathe by shifting the tailstock over. It seems to me this

Re: [Emc-users] OT: Possible Retrofit candidate for someone in the heartland

2012-01-24 Thread Stuart Stevenson
On Tue, Jan 24, 2012 at 9:18 PM, Mark Cason farmerboy1...@yahoo.com wrote: On 01/23/2012 11:58 AM, Stuart Stevenson wrote: If no one on this list buys this machine I will bid on it. This machine is on the Air Force Base. If I can, I will pick it up for anyone that buys it. I have never

Re: [Emc-users] [OT]Moveing pcb-gcode generated files to the milling machine=huge PIMA

2012-01-24 Thread Rafael Skodlar
On 01/24/2012 11:21 AM, gene heskett wrote: On Tuesday, January 24, 2012 01:46:15 PM Rafael Skodlar did opine: [...] Chuckle, I need that this morning (morning? Duh, it's past 2pm), the 2nd cup hasn't kicked in yet. :( I've now been searching the package repo looking for a sed-like util

Re: [Emc-users] OT: Possible Retrofit candidate for someone in the heartland

2012-01-24 Thread Dave
On 1/25/2012 12:31 AM, Stuart Stevenson wrote: since I am about 5 miles from the base a second trip would not be a problem - if I forgot some paperwork That is extremely convenient. :-) The last two base visits I had the GL guy met me at the gate and I followed his car back to

Re: [Emc-users] question about tapered threading (etc)

2012-01-24 Thread Dave
On 1/25/2012 1:11 AM, Kent A. Reed wrote: It may be annoying to know LinuxCNC works best with G-code programs tailored to it, but isn't this true also for other controllers? Yes. -- Keep Your Developer Skills Current