Re: [Emc-users] Text on rounded button.

2012-11-06 Thread Dave Caroline
On Tue, Nov 6, 2012 at 2:06 AM, Erik Friesen e...@aercon.net wrote: Any ideas how to get code to put text on this round button? http://www.digikey.com/product-detail/en/1WD16/679-2144-ND/2034700 If a true spherical surface then a 5 axis machine with A and B being driven as X,Y with some

Re: [Emc-users] What should I do to get the performance back?

2012-11-06 Thread andy pugh
On 6 November 2012 00:28, Sven Wesley svenne.d...@gmail.com wrote: Wow, sensitive subject. Are _you_ serious? Getting cold up there in the Baltic? It seems you are both getting a bit too excited by this subject. You can skate across and fight it out in the middle soon :-) I have also already

Re: [Emc-users] What should I do to get the performance back?

2012-11-06 Thread Sven Wesley
2012/11/6 andy pugh bodge...@gmail.com If 50% improvement is all that you need, then this might be worthwhile. My scepticism is based on a more subtle consideration which applies to stepper systems, however I think yours is a step-servo system so this might not apply. A 50 % drop in

Re: [Emc-users] Text on rounded button.

2012-11-06 Thread andy pugh
On 6 November 2012 02:06, Erik Friesen e...@aercon.net wrote: Any ideas how to get code to put text on this round button? Probe the surface and use http://wiki.linuxcnc.org/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?ProbeKins (the probing step is optional if you can manually create the height map, which could be done by

[Emc-users] Curves in ZR plane.

2012-11-06 Thread andy pugh
If you had a machine with conventional XYZ and a radial cutter motion too. (For example a HBM like my dad's) https://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/lorjlRbUi9B2VQy0Cd0KcNMTjNZETYmyPJy0liipFm0?feat=directlink If that was CNC you could bore spherical cavities and external radii. I guess that the

[Emc-users] The Ideal Tool Table

2012-11-06 Thread andy pugh
(Originally posted to the dev list, but there appear to be no opinions on the matter there) So, having started to think about how a database-based tool table might work (As background, the currently tool table only supports 56 tools, because that is what will fit in an NML message. Any module

[Emc-users] Plasma Cutting on a Mill.

2012-11-06 Thread andy pugh
I have wondered if it would be possible to plasma-cut with my milling machine. I am generally dissuaded by the mess. A water table isn't really an option, as it would slosh as the table moved. I think I might have thought of a way round both problems. I could mount an arm off the end of the bed,

Re: [Emc-users] Plasma Cutting on a Mill.

2012-11-06 Thread John Thornton
Depending on the thickness you might not have enough speed to make a clean cut. It would cut at any speed but might be fugly. On my Hypertherm 1250 for example with the fine cut consumables mounted the cut speeds vary from 2286 mm/min to 3174 mm/min for 3.4mm down to 0.6mm steel. So it depends

Re: [Emc-users] The Ideal Tool Table

2012-11-06 Thread Dave Caroline
On Tue, Nov 6, 2012 at 12:33 PM, andy pugh bodge...@gmail.com wrote: (Originally posted to the dev list, but there appear to be no opinions on the matter there) So, having started to think about how a database-based tool table might work (As background, the currently tool table only supports

Re: [Emc-users] Plasma Cutting on a Mill.

2012-11-06 Thread andy pugh
On 6 November 2012 13:06, John Thornton bjt...@gmail.com wrote: Depending on the thickness you might not have enough speed to make a clean cut. It would cut at any speed but might be fugly. On my Hypertherm 1250 for example with the fine cut consumables mounted the cut speeds vary from 2286

Re: [Emc-users] The Ideal Tool Table

2012-11-06 Thread andy pugh
On 6 November 2012 13:08, Dave Caroline dave.thearchiv...@gmail.com wrote: That NML message restriction is just silly, just send a few tools per message, those that are about to be used There is a further complication with the current scheme (and with your proposal) that means that several

Re: [Emc-users] Curves in ZR plane.

2012-11-06 Thread Stuart Stevenson
If someone is going to modify the circular interpolation code it would be nice to be able to specify a vector normal to the plane of interpolation. G17,G18,G19 would still work but maybe a g17.1 or g117 would allow three values corresponding to the normal vector. G17.1 I J K G02(3) X Y Z R (IJK)

Re: [Emc-users] The Ideal Tool Table

2012-11-06 Thread Dave Caroline
I suspect that it would be difficult for the code which transmits the tool table in the current structure to know which tools the requesting code wanted. Another inelegant feature of the current method is that it enforces a one-tool-per-pocket limit. I can conceive of a few scenarios where

Re: [Emc-users] Curves in ZR plane.

2012-11-06 Thread Stuart Stevenson
On Tue, Nov 6, 2012 at 5:41 AM, andy pugh bodge...@gmail.com wrote: If you had a machine with conventional XYZ and a radial cutter motion too. (For example a HBM like my dad's) https://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/lorjlRbUi9B2VQy0Cd0KcNMTjNZETYmyPJy0liipFm0?feat=directlink If that was CNC

Re: [Emc-users] Plasma Cutting on a Mill.

2012-11-06 Thread Stuart Stevenson
No reason at all. Sounds like a very good idea. On Nov 6, 2012 6:56 AM, andy pugh bodge...@gmail.com wrote: I have wondered if it would be possible to plasma-cut with my milling machine. I am generally dissuaded by the mess. A water table isn't really an option, as it would slosh as the table

Re: [Emc-users] The Ideal Tool Table

2012-11-06 Thread andy pugh
On 6 November 2012 13:42, Dave Caroline dave.thearchiv...@gmail.com wrote: The sliding head in the garage has two tools on a rocker so there is an inversion in direction for cutting too :) That can be accomodated in the existing structure in at least two ways. 1) You can use negative diameters

Re: [Emc-users] Text on rounded button.

2012-11-06 Thread Erik Friesen
I don't quite follow this probekins thing, although that seems promising. Is it a matter of exporting an stl from my cad with the same zero point as I intend to use, as well as in the same axis? On Tue, Nov 6, 2012 at 5:21 AM, andy pugh bodge...@gmail.com wrote: On 6 November 2012 02:06, Erik

Re: [Emc-users] Text on rounded button.

2012-11-06 Thread dave
On Mon, 2012-11-05 at 22:47 -0800, Kirk Wallace wrote: On Mon, 2012-11-05 at 21:06 -0500, Erik Friesen wrote: Any ideas how to get code to put text on this round button? http://www.digikey.com/product-detail/en/1WD16/679-2144-ND/2034700 The software I currently have is, alibre pro(no

Re: [Emc-users] Text on rounded button.

2012-11-06 Thread andy pugh
On 6 November 2012 15:20, Erik Friesen e...@aercon.net wrote: I don't quite follow this probekins thing, although that seems promising. Is it a matter of exporting an stl from my cad with the same zero point as I intend to use, as well as in the same axis? Basically, yes. The STL is a

Re: [Emc-users] The Ideal Tool Table

2012-11-06 Thread dave
On Tue, 2012-11-06 at 12:33 +, andy pugh wrote: (Originally posted to the dev list, but there appear to be no opinions on the matter there) So, having started to think about how a database-based tool table might work (As background, the currently tool table only supports 56 tools,

Re: [Emc-users] The Ideal Tool Table

2012-11-06 Thread Michael Haberler
Hi Andy, great to see the tooltable issue gets attention. having thought about it in the past, and decided I leave this for LinuxCNC3 ;) anyway let me note some observations and suggestions how to go about it. first, views. the notion of a 'table' might suggest that this is a tabular

Re: [Emc-users] [Emc-developers] The Ideal Tool Table

2012-11-06 Thread Michael Haberler
Am 06.11.2012 um 17:35 schrieb andy pugh: On 6 November 2012 14:08, Michael Haberler mai...@mah.priv.at wrote: I learned one other control has the capability to define a group of tools which define a tool instance; you 'toolchange' to an instance and the control pulls one of the class

Re: [Emc-users] Curves in ZR plane.

2012-11-06 Thread andy pugh
On 6 November 2012 13:31, Stuart Stevenson stus...@gmail.com wrote: The IJK values from the start point to the radius center point would also allow calculation of the normal vector. Using the IJK (ie: G02(3) X Y Z I J K) to determine the 3D space location of the center point would then

Re: [Emc-users] Curves in ZR plane.

2012-11-06 Thread andy pugh
On 6 November 2012 16:56, andy pugh bodge...@gmail.com wrote: I guess that using an UXZ se UYZ, in case anyone was confused. -- atp If you can't fix it, you don't own it. http://www.ifixit.com/Manifesto -- LogMeIn

Re: [Emc-users] Curves in ZR plane.

2012-11-06 Thread andy pugh
On 6 November 2012 13:44, Stuart Stevenson stus...@gmail.com wrote: During machine movement the symbol would not change from U to V just because the orientation changes That was intended as a joke :-) I guess that using an UXZ set for positions is simple enough. It will be a unique config for

Re: [Emc-users] [Emc-developers] The Ideal Tool Table

2012-11-06 Thread andy pugh
On 6 November 2012 16:43, Michael Haberler mai...@mah.priv.at wrote: Leaving the rest to think about later (and harder) this seems like an argument for having multiple pockets containing tools with the same number. T2 means find me any type 2 tool and send it's pocket number to the

Re: [Emc-users] Curves in ZR plane.

2012-11-06 Thread John Stewart
Andy; You would have to raise an error in cases where the three points lie on a line. G16 appears to be available for setting this mode, and even makes sense as the zeroth member of the set. 3 vertices doth make a triangle; should two of those vertices be equal, one hath a degenerate

Re: [Emc-users] Text on rounded button.

2012-11-06 Thread Marcus Bowman
If you mean engrave the top surface of the button, you can use a diamond drag engraving tool, because it will follow the curves. You can use VCarve Pro to generate the code as if it was for a flat surface. Marcus On 6 Nov 2012, at 16:22, andy pugh wrote: On 6 November 2012 15:20, Erik

Re: [Emc-users] The Ideal Tool Table

2012-11-06 Thread Michael Haberler
Am 06.11.2012 um 17:34 schrieb Michael Haberler: The mechanism I would choose for this API is to reuse the embedded Python code which is already in place, robust and quite simple to use. The API calls I listed above would just map to Python methods of the same name. There is just no

Re: [Emc-users] Curves in ZR plane.

2012-11-06 Thread Chris Radek
On Tue, Nov 06, 2012 at 07:31:07AM -0600, Stuart Stevenson wrote: Best: (heh - my opinion) :) The IJK values from the start point to the radius center point would also allow calculation of the normal vector. Using the IJK (ie: G02(3) X Y Z I J K) to determine the 3D space location of the

Re: [Emc-users] Curves in ZR plane.

2012-11-06 Thread andy pugh
On 6 November 2012 17:48, Chris Radek ch...@timeguy.com wrote: I think andy thinks you mean calculate normal as (XYZ - current) cross (IJK - current) which he rightfully says flips direction given an arc of more or less than semicircle, and for semicircle and full circle it's indeterminate.

Re: [Emc-users] Plasma Cutting on a Mill.

2012-11-06 Thread Jason Burton
I've wondered the exact same thing. I think about the only thing that might stop you (barring sufficient speeds) is emi crosstalk. Interested to see you build it! On Nov 6, 2012 6:56 AM, andy pugh bodge...@gmail.com wrote: I have wondered if it would be possible to plasma-cut with my milling

Re: [Emc-users] Text on rounded button.

2012-11-06 Thread Erik Friesen
I see the probekins tar.gz includes everything. I have my customized version of linuxcnc running, don't feel like using something else. Is it just a matter of dragging some of the files into my src and building? On Tue, Nov 6, 2012 at 12:12 PM, Marcus Bowman marcus.thebowm...@virgin.net

Re: [Emc-users] The Ideal Tool Table

2012-11-06 Thread Jan Van Gilsen
Andy, Maybe you could use this geometry: http://ars.els-cdn.com/content/image/1-s2.0-S0890695501000451-gr1.jpg This results in different possible tool shapes: http://ars.els-cdn.com/content/image/1-s2.0-S0890695501000451-gr2.gif from:

Re: [Emc-users] Text on rounded button.

2012-11-06 Thread Erik Friesen
I copied the kinematics directory to mine, here is the error in the make. Any ideas what I need to do? Compiling emc/kinematics/genserkins.c make: *** No rule to make target `../lib/liblinuxcnchal.so', needed by `../bin/genserkins'. Stop. On Tue, Nov 6, 2012 at 2:42 PM, Erik Friesen

Re: [Emc-users] Text on rounded button.

2012-11-06 Thread Mark Wendt
On Tue, Nov 6, 2012 at 3:41 PM, Erik Friesen e...@aercon.net wrote: I copied the kinematics directory to mine, here is the error in the make. Any ideas what I need to do? Compiling emc/kinematics/genserkins.c make: *** No rule to make target `../lib/liblinuxcnchal.so', needed by

Re: [Emc-users] Text on rounded button.

2012-11-06 Thread Erik Friesen
I am doing the compile from the emc2-dev/src directory. I can't find where liblinuxcnchal.so is referenced, so I am unclear how to proceed. I can't find it in the probekins project either. On Tue, Nov 6, 2012 at 3:47 PM, Mark Wendt wendt.m...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Nov 6, 2012 at 3:41 PM,

Re: [Emc-users] Text on rounded button.

2012-11-06 Thread Erik Friesen
or, probekins source. On Tue, Nov 6, 2012 at 3:49 PM, Erik Friesen e...@aercon.net wrote: I am doing the compile from the emc2-dev/src directory. I can't find where liblinuxcnchal.so is referenced, so I am unclear how to proceed. I can't find it in the probekins project either. On Tue,

Re: [Emc-users] The Ideal Tool Table

2012-11-06 Thread andy pugh
On 6 November 2012 19:55, Jan Van Gilsen janvangil...@gmail.com wrote: Maybe you could use this geometry: http://ars.els-cdn.com/content/image/1-s2.0-S0890695501000451-gr1.jpg I suppose that is one way to be very general. But excludes ogee router cutters and panel-raising bits. Then the

Re: [Emc-users] Text on rounded button.

2012-11-06 Thread andy pugh
On 6 November 2012 19:42, Erik Friesen e...@aercon.net wrote: I see the probekins tar.gz includes everything. I have my customized version of linuxcnc running, don't feel like using something else. Is it just a matter of dragging some of the files into my src and building? It might actually

Re: [Emc-users] Text on rounded button.

2012-11-06 Thread Erik Friesen
I am building with 2.6.0 ~pre. Something isn't working here, comp isn't found even after dev install. Is 2.6 incompatible with the probekins kinematics source? On Tue, Nov 6, 2012 at 4:04 PM, andy pugh bodge...@gmail.com wrote: On 6 November 2012 19:42, Erik Friesen e...@aercon.net wrote:

Re: [Emc-users] carbide pcb drills

2012-11-06 Thread Frank Tkalcevic
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Re: [Emc-users] Text on rounded button.

2012-11-06 Thread Erik Friesen
Even after building the dev install, I don't find any stlvis script. On Tue, Nov 6, 2012 at 4:23 PM, Erik Friesen e...@aercon.net wrote: I am building with 2.6.0 ~pre. Something isn't working here, comp isn't found even after dev install. Is 2.6 incompatible with the probekins kinematics

Re: [Emc-users] Text on rounded button.

2012-11-06 Thread Lars Kruse
Hi, The software I currently have is, alibre pro(no gcode), vcarve pro, and meshcam, none of which seem capable of curved text. did you already try PyCAM? (disclaimer: I maintain PyCAM) I just prepared a short article with some screenshots that show how to solve your specific problem with