Re: [Emc-users] Mesa 5i25 + 7i77 basic configuration

2013-12-11 Thread Leonardo Marsaglia
I was using 2.5.3 but I guess the bug is with 5i25 configurations. I will try with the 5i20 to see if it happens too. 2013/12/4 Chris Morley chrisinnana...@hotmail.com Date: Wed, 4 Dec 2013 19:37:43 -0200 From: leonardomarsagli...@gmail.com To: emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net Subject:

Re: [Emc-users] C2000 vfd + AC inductor motor + LinuxCNC

2013-12-11 Thread Leonardo Marsaglia
Working on my tuning I find that the vibration/oscillation I have is due to torque. The charriot that the screw is moving is vertical and weights like 100 kg so there's a lot of force for the motor to do to lift the charriot. That's when I get the vibrations, on the way up. On the other side, when

Re: [Emc-users] C2000 vfd + AC inductor motor + LinuxCNC

2013-12-11 Thread andy pugh
On 11 December 2013 12:25, Leonardo Marsaglia leonardomarsagli...@gmail.com wrote: I know this is due to torque but I don't know how to compensate this. If I use low speed on the way up theres almost no vibration. The PID component has a bias parameter which might help. I use it on the Z of my

Re: [Emc-users] C2000 vfd + AC inductor motor + LinuxCNC

2013-12-11 Thread Gene Heskett
On Wednesday 11 December 2013 08:42:36 andy pugh did opine: On 11 December 2013 12:25, Leonardo Marsaglia leonardomarsagli...@gmail.com wrote: I know this is due to torque but I don't know how to compensate this. If I use low speed on the way up theres almost no vibration. The PID

Re: [Emc-users] Acra CNC refit progress.

2013-12-11 Thread Dave Cole
On 12/11/2013 1:16 AM, Gregg Eshelman wrote: On 12/10/2013 8:46 PM, tcninj...@yahoo.com wrote: This discussion reminded me That I have one of these if someone wants to try it http://i1028.photobucket.com/albums/y342/tcninja12/Mobile%20Uploads/image_zps00648bad.jpg What is the taper on those

Re: [Emc-users] Slow G code

2013-12-11 Thread Ricardo Moscoloni
Rob: a axis is along x, config is simple, just have to edit GEOMETRY = -AXYBC in ini file. i will send you a link sharing a folder in goog drive, theres config files and some sample gcode, just let me know if you can se it! theres no way i could run it smoothly, blending in rot axis is a must!

[Emc-users] gcmc 1.4.2

2013-12-11 Thread Bertho Stultiens
Hi All, A new version 1.4.2 of gcmc has been released. The major change is the addition of g-code function generation (--gcode-function option) as well as the ability to reverse vectorlists for easier alternating path movements. The documentation now also includes the return values of the

Re: [Emc-users] C2000 vfd + AC inductor motor + LinuxCNC

2013-12-11 Thread Jon Elson
On 12/11/2013 06:25 AM, Leonardo Marsaglia wrote: Working on my tuning I find that the vibration/oscillation I have is due to torque. The charriot that the screw is moving is vertical and weights like 100 kg so there's a lot of force for the motor to do to lift the charriot. That's when I get

Re: [Emc-users] Acra CNC refit progress.

2013-12-11 Thread tcninja12
I couldnt tell you what taper they are but some of the holder is inside the r8 some can try them I dont use them any more they are nikken brand On Dec 11, 2013, at 12:16 AM, Gregg Eshelman g_ala...@yahoo.com wrote: On 12/10/2013 8:46 PM, tcninj...@yahoo.com wrote: This discussion reminded me

Re: [Emc-users] C2000 vfd + AC inductor motor + LinuxCNC

2013-12-11 Thread Dave Cole
On 12/11/2013 11:53 AM, Jon Elson wrote: On 12/11/2013 06:25 AM, Leonardo Marsaglia wrote: Working on my tuning I find that the vibration/oscillation I have is due to torque. The charriot that the screw is moving is vertical and weights like 100 kg so there's a lot of force for the motor to do

Re: [Emc-users] C2000 vfd + AC inductor motor + LinuxCNC

2013-12-11 Thread Kirk Wallace
On 12/11/2013 09:40 AM, Dave Cole wrote: ... snip Siemens had hybrid motors that were not standard induction motors at the time that could do better positioning but they were as expensive ore more expensive than other companies servo drive systems and were generally only used for very large

Re: [Emc-users] C2000 vfd + AC inductor motor + LinuxCNC

2013-12-11 Thread Leonardo Marsaglia
Well. As you say it's not the best to use an induction AC motor for a servo work but I managed to get 0.3 or 0.4 mm of error wich is pretty cool for the job. I tried using the pid BIAS as Andy told to decrease vibration but nothing happened. Also tried decreasing the servo thread speed as Gene

Re: [Emc-users] C2000 vfd + AC inductor motor + LinuxCNC

2013-12-11 Thread Gene Heskett
On Wednesday 11 December 2013 13:50:30 Leonardo Marsaglia did opine: Well. As you say it's not the best to use an induction AC motor for a servo work but I managed to get 0.3 or 0.4 mm of error wich is pretty cool for the job. I tried using the pid BIAS as Andy told to decrease vibration

Re: [Emc-users] C2000 vfd + AC inductor motor + LinuxCNC

2013-12-11 Thread Dave Cole
If it meets your needs then you have succeeded. :-) I have put AC servos on Induction Hardening machines before. The machine you are using may be similar to the one I automated. The shaft/camshaft moves vertically through an energized induction coil and is sprayed with water to create

Re: [Emc-users] C2000 vfd + AC inductor motor + LinuxCNC

2013-12-11 Thread Leonardo Marsaglia
2013/12/11 Gene Heskett ghesk...@wdtv.com Question: Is this enough of a velocity variation to effect the performance of the hardening process? Or cause premature wear anyplace from the vibration, like in the cable trough feeding this carriage? I found the velocity variation quite good for

Re: [Emc-users] C2000 vfd + AC inductor motor + LinuxCNC

2013-12-11 Thread Leonardo Marsaglia
2013/12/11 Dave Cole linuxcncro...@gmail.com If it meets your needs then you have succeeded. :-) I have put AC servos on Induction Hardening machines before. The machine you are using may be similar to the one I automated. The shaft/camshaft moves vertically through an energized

Re: [Emc-users] C2000 vfd + AC inductor motor + LinuxCNC

2013-12-11 Thread Gene Heskett
On Wednesday 11 December 2013 17:55:39 Leonardo Marsaglia did opine: 2013/12/11 Gene Heskett ghesk...@wdtv.com Question: Is this enough of a velocity variation to effect the performance of the hardening process? Or cause premature wear anyplace from the vibration, like in the cable

Re: [Emc-users] C2000 vfd + AC inductor motor + LinuxCNC

2013-12-11 Thread Leonardo Marsaglia
2013/12/11 Gene Heskett ghesk...@wdtv.com Huge yabut there. Co$t... The precision of the ball screw apparently isn't needed, and keeping it clean for long life could be a problem, particularly when the nylon nut can be replaced several times during overnight maintenance for 2% of the cost

Re: [Emc-users] C2000 vfd + AC inductor motor + LinuxCNC

2013-12-11 Thread Dave Cole
On 12/11/2013 6:02 PM, Leonardo Marsaglia wrote: 2013/12/11 Dave Cole linuxcncro...@gmail.com If it meets your needs then you have succeeded. :-) I have put AC servos on Induction Hardening machines before. The machine you are using may be similar to the one I automated. The

Re: [Emc-users] C2000 vfd + AC inductor motor + LinuxCNC

2013-12-11 Thread Gene Heskett
On Wednesday 11 December 2013 21:00:21 Leonardo Marsaglia did opine: 2013/12/11 Gene Heskett ghesk...@wdtv.com Huge yabut there. Co$t... The precision of the ball screw apparently isn't needed, and keeping it clean for long life could be a problem, particularly when the nylon nut can