Re: [Emc-users] VFD causing limits to trip. Huh?

2015-03-06 Thread Gregg Eshelman
On 3/6/2015 6:54 AM, Todd Zuercher wrote: You might be able to get away with just adding a debounce to the limit inputs. That worked for me on a machine that was giving me false trips on the X limit. I suspected mine was a dodgy cable at the time, but it might have been cross talk since it

Re: [Emc-users] VFD causing limits to trip. Huh?

2015-03-06 Thread Gregg Eshelman
On 3/6/2015 1:52 PM, Bruce Layne wrote: The LCD is on an articulated arm, a little above eye level, mounted to the side of the large nonmetallic enclosure. The VFD is mounted in the steel electrical enclosure about five feet lower. The cables all exit through cable clamps in holes on the

Re: [Emc-users] VFD causing limits to trip. Huh?

2015-03-06 Thread Jon Elson
On 03/06/2015 07:19 PM, Gregg Eshelman wrote: On 3/6/2015 6:54 AM, Todd Zuercher wrote: You might be able to get away with just adding a debounce to the limit inputs. That worked for me on a machine that was giving me false trips on the X limit. I suspected mine was a dodgy cable at the

Re: [Emc-users] VFD causing limits to trip. Huh?

2015-03-06 Thread N. Christopher Perry
Zuercher, If Gene is right, then there is a really big loop area. Ether the leads to the motor / drive are taking different paths or the is a big ground loop some place. You could try moving the leads around to confirm what Gene is suggesting. If this is the case, check for ground loops. If

Re: [Emc-users] VFD causing limits to trip. Huh?

2015-03-06 Thread Watier Yves
Hi Russel, I got exactly the same troubles describes with the VFDs creating a lot of perturbation. Aspiration was also making perturbation for me. Thankfully at my work place we have experts on EMI and Stephen advices are what you need to follow. In my case, to solve it I had to shield the cable

Re: [Emc-users] Google Summer of Code students wanted!

2015-03-06 Thread sam sokolik
someone had started this... http://www.bpuk.org/linuxcnc/ sam On 3/6/2015 7:45 AM, Ed wrote: On 03/05/2015 10:21 PM, Sebastian Kuzminsky wrote: The LinuxCNC project has been approved for Google Summer of Code, under the BRL-CAD umbrella organization. If you are an eligible student, and

Re: [Emc-users] VFD causing limits to trip. Huh?

2015-03-06 Thread Matt Tucci
Wiring to the switch is damaged somewhere? On Fri, Mar 6, 2015 at 6:56 AM, Russell Brown russ...@lls.lls.com wrote: I've just fitted one of them there 'Chinese' 2.2kW watercooled motors with a Huanyang VFD as a second spindle on my mill. Last night doing some pocketing, when the cutter got

Re: [Emc-users] Google Summer of Code students wanted!

2015-03-06 Thread Ed
On 03/05/2015 10:21 PM, Sebastian Kuzminsky wrote: The LinuxCNC project has been approved for Google Summer of Code, under the BRL-CAD umbrella organization. If you are an eligible student, and you'd like to get paid to work on LinuxCNC this summer, check this out:

[Emc-users] VFD causing limits to trip. Huh?

2015-03-06 Thread Russell Brown
I've just fitted one of them there 'Chinese' 2.2kW watercooled motors with a Huanyang VFD as a second spindle on my mill. Last night doing some pocketing, when the cutter got into the 'meat' of the cut (6mm carbide 2 flute, 3mm DOC), Linuxcnc (v2.6.7) tripped with Axis 2 limit switch. This was

Re: [Emc-users] VFD causing limits to trip. Huh?

2015-03-06 Thread Stephen Dubovsky
EMI. VFDs generate lots of it. You're likely getting lots of noise coupled into your limit switch cabling. Shield the vfd wires if possible. Running in a shielded single cable is probably best. Separate the motor and switch cables as much as possible too. On March 6, 2015 6:56:08 AM EST,

Re: [Emc-users] VFD causing limits to trip. Huh?

2015-03-06 Thread N. Christopher Perry
You could also put a reactor between the motor and drive. Might be a good idea to put a line filter on the power leads to the drive too. I'm not a fan of shielding, but it's certainly an option as well. N. Christopher Perry On Mar 6, 2015, at 7:36 AM, Stephen Dubovsky smdubov...@gmail.com

Re: [Emc-users] VFD causing limits to trip. Huh?

2015-03-06 Thread Todd Zuercher
You might be able to get away with just adding a debounce to the limit inputs. That worked for me on a machine that was giving me false trips on the X limit. I suspected mine was a dodgy cable at the time, but it might have been cross talk since it hasn't given any problems since adding the

Re: [Emc-users] VFD causing limits to trip. Huh?

2015-03-06 Thread Dave Cole
VFDs and AC servo drives oftentimes create noise on the incoming AC power lines to the drives.That noise can cause interference issues with system electronics. I recommend you purchase an incoming line filter to keep the noise from backing up into your AC power line. This is a filter I

Re: [Emc-users] VFD causing limits to trip. Huh?

2015-03-06 Thread Andy Pugh
On 6 Mar 2015, at 12:56, Russell Brown russ...@lls.lls.com wrote: Any ideas what might cause this? Almost certainly EMI. An input filter for the VFD can help. Check eBay for Rasmi they are not expensive. If your mill is not downstream of an RCD then I have one spare you can have.

Re: [Emc-users] VFD causing limits to trip. Huh?

2015-03-06 Thread Bruce Layne
My 2'X4' CNC router has a 2.2 KW water cooled spindle and VFD - the typical Chinese kit off eBay. http://www.ebay.com/itm/221354796303 I'm getting noise on the video signal that usually causes annoying screen jitter but sometimes blanks out the screen entirely, which can be a bit

Re: [Emc-users] VFD causing limits to trip. Huh?

2015-03-06 Thread Todd Zuercher
What sort of screen? and where is it in relation to the VFD? We have a router with 2 VFDs mounted on the outside of a wooden cabinet, and they wreak havoc on the CRT display inside the cabinet when they accelerate/decelerate (about 6 inches away). It is fine while its running, just when

Re: [Emc-users] VFD causing limits to trip. Huh?

2015-03-06 Thread N. Christopher Perry
That's the big brother of the one I picked. N. Christopher Perry On Mar 6, 2015, at 12:34 PM, Dave Cole linuxcncro...@gmail.com wrote: VFDs and AC servo drives oftentimes create noise on the incoming AC power lines to the drives.That noise can cause interference issues with system

Re: [Emc-users] VFD causing limits to trip. Huh?

2015-03-06 Thread Charles Steinkuehler
On 3/6/2015 1:43 PM, Todd Zuercher wrote: What sort of screen? and where is it in relation to the VFD? We have a router with 2 VFDs mounted on the outside of a wooden cabinet, and they wreak havoc on the CRT display inside the cabinet when they accelerate/decelerate (about 6 inches away). It

Re: [Emc-users] A shot in the dark

2015-03-06 Thread Eric H. Johnson
Hi all, I will close this thread out. I was able to get the manuals through BK. Apparently what you have to do (I won't get a chance to try it until Monday) is hold two buttons on controller boot, which will put it into program mode. Eric Just a shot in the dark to see if anyone has run into

Re: [Emc-users] VFD causing limits to trip. Huh?

2015-03-06 Thread Bruce Layne
On 03/06/2015 02:43 PM, Todd Zuercher wrote: What sort of screen? 20 LCD. Dell, I think. Where is it in relation to the VFD? The LCD is on an articulated arm, a little above eye level, mounted to the side of the large nonmetallic enclosure. The VFD is mounted in the steel electrical

[Emc-users] ProLight 1000 mill refit.

2015-03-06 Thread Gregg Eshelman
Anyone done a refit on a Light Machines Corporation ProLight 1000 mill? Looks like it won't be coming with the big, black controller box so a control upgrade is in order. Hopefully the motor drivers are separate and in the mill itself. Then there's the spindle speed control, which ran on a