[Emc-users] NEW Compact Low Cost x86 Boards and Systems (Not Used)

2016-03-22 Thread bari
I couldn't find many new x86 systems with wired Ethernet for under $100 today. Intel has WiFi only x86 media PC's starting at ~$70. ZOTAC ZBOX's start at ~$120 http://www.amazon.com/CoreAll--Mini-PC-Express-Chipset-ZBOXHD-ID40-U/dp/B004FPYL9M/ref=sr_1_2?s=pc=UTF8=1458670729=1-2=zotac+zbox APU

Re: [Emc-users] Linuxcnc on arm (NML-over-TCP)

2016-03-22 Thread Jeff Epler
nml is the protocol/library between UIs and task, as well as between task and iocontrol. task (not realtime) uses a shared memory interface to talk to motion (realtime). Jeff -- Transform Data into Opportunity.

Re: [Emc-users] Linuxcnc on arm

2016-03-22 Thread bari
I spent the past few days looking over the current state of ARM SOC's for Linuxcnc and the open 3D driver situation hasn't changed much. i.mx6 uses a Vivante GPU and you can build RT kernels and build from open GPU driver source. The problem is NXP sells their 1-cores for ~$15 and their duals

[Emc-users] Safety systems Re: Linuxcnc on arm

2016-03-22 Thread Gregg Eshelman
Here's a 3D printer manufacturer that decided to skimp on the failsafes. They figured that their proprietary software and insisting that the printer be sent back to fix *any* problem, including clogged nozzles, would suffice. (Somebody didn't read about the Therac 25. Should be mandatory for

Re: [Emc-users] Linuxcnc on arm (NML-over-TCP)

2016-03-22 Thread Nicklas Karlsson
I read the diagram and EMCTASK is connected by NML: First step would be to get it to work again. Second to move lower parts to micro controller. Then lower parts are on micro controller there is no need to care about real time perfomance in GUI. Are all NML communication paths via

Re: [Emc-users] Linuxcnc on arm

2016-03-22 Thread Jeff Epler
On Sun, Mar 20, 2016 at 04:51:39PM +, Ralph Stirling wrote: > The MachineKit folk are a year or two ahead of you guys > in thinking about the distributed control approach. [snip] The original "NIST EMC", a distant ancestor of LinuxCNC, already had a distributed control approach with

Re: [Emc-users] Linuxcnc on arm

2016-03-22 Thread Chris Albertson
On Tue, Mar 22, 2016 at 3:31 AM, Nicklas Karlsson < nicklas.karlsso...@gmail.com> wrote: > No the real time tasks in the work shop may be running by themself or > waiting for answer from GUI but you can't trust the emergency stop. If you > are on the beach emergency stop will not matter anyway

Re: [Emc-users] Linuxcnc on arm

2016-03-22 Thread bari
On 03/22/2016 11:13 AM, Nicklas Karlsson wrote: >> > User interface in a telephone may not be the most useful application but > would be a possibility. To separate real time from others would however be > useful. The procotol in between might also be useful to control machine via > software on

Re: [Emc-users] Linuxcnc on arm

2016-03-22 Thread Nicklas Karlsson
> On 03/22/2016 05:15 AM, bari wrote: > > But if my phone has the GUI and I'm at the beach do I need to run an > > extra pair of conductors back to the machine? > > > > On 03/20/2016 01:22 PM, Jon Elson wrote: > >> On 03/20/2016 11:57 AM, bari wrote: > >>> How real time do you want the GUI? Is a

Re: [Emc-users] Linuxcnc on arm

2016-03-22 Thread Jon Elson
On 03/22/2016 05:15 AM, bari wrote: > But if my phone has the GUI and I'm at the beach do I need to run an > extra pair of conductors back to the machine? > > On 03/20/2016 01:22 PM, Jon Elson wrote: >> On 03/20/2016 11:57 AM, bari wrote: >>> How real time do you want the GUI? Is a few second lag

Re: [Emc-users] Next Release(s)?

2016-03-22 Thread sam sokolik
There are a lot of things that I can think of that would be cool in master Things I am interested in... JA - I have only lightly tested this. UVW blending - probably done the most testing and so did Todd... Reverse run - Maybe slightly heaver testing - but still light. M98/M99 - slightly tested

[Emc-users] Next Release(s)?

2016-03-22 Thread Todd Zuercher
Just curious if anyone knows what goodies are in the pipe? 2.7 has been such a big improvement (now that it has stabilized a bit), that expectations are high for what new surprises might be coming along. I really haven't looked at Master much since 2.7 to know what if much of anything is

Re: [Emc-users] Linuxcnc on arm

2016-03-22 Thread bari
Well I'm glad that machinekit now has this scenario covered. > On 03/22/2016 05:31 AM, Nicklas Karlsson wrote: >> No the real time tasks in the work shop may be running by themself or >> waiting for answer from GUI but you can't trust the emergency stop. If you >> are on the beach emergency

Re: [Emc-users] Linuxcnc on arm

2016-03-22 Thread Nicklas Karlsson
No the real time tasks in the work shop may be running by themself or waiting for answer from GUI but you can't trust the emergency stop. If you are on the beach emergency stop will not matter anyway unless you are machining a large bomb. > But if my phone has the GUI and I'm at the beach do

Re: [Emc-users] Linuxcnc on arm

2016-03-22 Thread Bertho Stultiens
On 03/22/2016 11:15 AM, bari wrote: >>> How real time do you want the GUI? Is a few second lag behind the >>> machines state ok? How about E-stop or Start/Stop from the UI? What's >>> safe? 1 second max, 10 seconds? If you are milling while at the beach >>> miles away does it matter? What problem

Re: [Emc-users] Linuxcnc on arm

2016-03-22 Thread bari
But if my phone has the GUI and I'm at the beach do I need to run an extra pair of conductors back to the machine? On 03/20/2016 01:22 PM, Jon Elson wrote: > On 03/20/2016 11:57 AM, bari wrote: >> How real time do you want the GUI? Is a few second lag behind the >> machines state ok? How about