Re: [Emc-users] Linux installation problem

2009-04-22 Thread Marty Swartz
Hm. The BIOS in most motherboards I have used (Dell, Intel, Nvida, Via) will allow you to SPECIFY the order in which boot devices will be attempted. In my daily non-EMC context, I usually set this to Floppy first, CD second, HDD third. When setting up EMC this allows me to boot the LiveCD to do

Re: [Emc-users] Linux installation problem CD's are bootable Harddrive partitioned with hal91 fdisk -l and dmesg | grep hdc messages

2009-04-22 Thread Jim Fleig - CNC Services
To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC) emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net Sent: Tuesday, April 21, 2009 11:37 PM Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Linux installation problem CD's are bootable Harddrive partitioned with hal91 fdisk -l and dmesg | grep hdc messages Jim, MachineA - machine the CD will boot

Re: [Emc-users] Linux installation problem CD's are bootable Harddrive partitioned with hal91 fdisk -l and dmesg | grep hdc messages

2009-04-22 Thread Dave Engvall
Maybe just as easy(?). Remove the hard drive from the machine that won't (isn't) booting the CD and install it in the box that can come up under 'Live'. Go thru the installation process and then move the disk back to the other machine. There is a possible issue here and that is getting X

Re: [Emc-users] Linux installation problem CD's are bootable Harddrive partitioned with hal91 fdisk -l and dmesg | grep hdc messages

2009-04-22 Thread Rafael Skodlar
Jim Fleig - CNC Services wrote: Hi Stuart, I don't mind the redundancy. Sometimes things are tried twice (or more) in order to get them right once. :-) Machine B will not boot from the CD at all. hal91 on floppy will boot every time from the floppy. hal91 files on a CD will not boot

Re: [Emc-users] Linux installation problem CD's are bootable Harddrive partitioned with hal91 fdisk -l and dmesg | grep hdc messages

2009-04-22 Thread Jon Elson
Jim Fleig - CNC Services wrote: Can anyone shed any light on why I'm getting these tray open... messages, Is there any possibility you have the IDE cables swapped, and the CD is on IDE1 and the hard drive on IDE2? Some BIOS's may be able to boot an existing OS like that, but may be unable

Re: [Emc-users] Linux installation problem

2009-04-21 Thread Rafael Skodlar
BRIAN GLACKIN wrote: To all, Jim, this is way beyond EMC support ... You need seek help for BASIC PC setup elsewhere. However While this is true, many of the people coming to EMC are from a different planet (windoze) and learning to walk in a new land takes time and patience. This

Re: [Emc-users] Linux installation problem

2009-04-21 Thread Ian W. Wright
Jim, As you have probably worked out by now, your problems stem from the fact that DBan erases everything on the hard drive including the partition tables which are the index to the 'filing cabinet'. Your easiest way to get going again would be to start by creating a new primary partition of

Re: [Emc-users] Linux installation problem

2009-04-21 Thread Rafael Skodlar
Ian W. Wright wrote: Jim, As you have probably worked out by now, your problems stem from the fact that DBan erases everything on the hard drive including the partition tables which are the index to the 'filing cabinet'. Your easiest way to get going again would be to start by creating

Re: [Emc-users] Linux installation problem

2009-04-21 Thread Jon Elson
Rafael Skodlar wrote: computers DO NOT SEE drives because of the partition. BIOS code knows nothing about the partitions when it makes PC send low level commands to hard drive: reset, read disk configuration (heads, cyl, sec/track), seek, read raw sectors, transfer that data to memory, etc.

Re: [Emc-users] Linux installation problem

2009-04-21 Thread Rafael Skodlar
Jon Elson wrote: Rafael Skodlar wrote: computers DO NOT SEE drives because of the partition. BIOS code knows nothing about the partitions when it makes PC send low level commands to hard drive: reset, read disk configuration (heads, cyl, sec/track), seek, read raw sectors, transfer that data

Re: [Emc-users] Linux installation problem

2009-04-21 Thread Ian W. Wright
Jon wrote:- Not completely true. Many BIOS's attempt to read the partition table and the boot sector from the boot partition during the self-test, and will hang there for a long time if they can't find it. I guess it is a stupid timeout waiting for the drive to come on line. 10 seconds

Re: [Emc-users] Linux installation problem

2009-04-21 Thread Jim Coleman
has it yet been determined that the cd is in fact working and bootable? I've seen people download the iso with winrar or a similar compression program installed, see the icon and open and extract the files to a folder, then burn the dir to a cd. autorun works, but no bootability. another issue

Re: [Emc-users] Linux installation problem Boot accomplished with hal91 Linux bootable floppy

2009-04-21 Thread Jim Fleig - CNC Services
The tower has booted! Thank you for all of the replies. I read (but did not understand) all of them. It seemed to make sense to me to focus on trying to boot with a floppy because the DBAN floppy would boot every time. It took a long time to find and then a couple of attempts to get hal91

Re: [Emc-users] Linux installation problem Boot accomplished with hal91 Linux bootable floppy

2009-04-21 Thread Stuart Stevenson
Jim, Have you booted the CD in another computer? If not, you need to be able to boot the CD. When you are able to boot the CD then the installation process will identify the hard drive and partition it for you. It will do an automatically generated configuration or you can do a manual

Re: [Emc-users] Linux installation problem CD's are bootable Hard drive partitioned with hal91 fdisk -l and dmesg | grep hdc messages

2009-04-21 Thread Jim Fleig - CNC Services
21, 2009 9:32 PM Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Linux installation problem Boot accomplished withhal91 Linux bootable floppy Jim, Have you booted the CD in another computer? If not, you need to be able to boot the CD. When you are able to boot the CD then the installation process will identify

[Emc-users] Linux installation problem

2009-04-20 Thread Ian Wright
Jim Fleig wrote:PS (My attempt to replace a previous version of Ubuntu with 8.04 has resulted in the following error message: Disk Boot Failure, Insert System Disk and Press Enter. Prior to installing the 8.04 version the hard drive was scrubbed with DBAN. I have tried several things

Re: [Emc-users] Linux installation problem

2009-04-20 Thread Jim Fleig - CNC Services
Wright watchm...@fastmail.fm To: emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net Sent: Monday, April 20, 2009 12:13 PM Subject: [Emc-users] Linux installation problem Jim Fleig wrote:PS (My attempt to replace a previous version of Ubuntu with 8.04 has resulted in the following error message: Disk Boot

Re: [Emc-users] Linux installation problem

2009-04-20 Thread Dave Engvall
- Original Message - From: Ian Wright watchm...@fastmail.fm To: emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net Sent: Monday, April 20, 2009 12:13 PM Subject: [Emc-users] Linux installation problem Jim Fleig wrote:PS (My attempt to replace a previous version of Ubuntu with 8.04 has resulted

Re: [Emc-users] Linux installation problem

2009-04-20 Thread Rafael Skodlar
Jim, this is way beyond EMC support ... You need seek help for BASIC PC setup elsewhere. However Jim Fleig - CNC Services wrote: Hi Ian, Thank you for the reply. The boot sequence was set to CDROM, A, C. I downloaded Ranish, unzipped and copied to a floppy. The boot sequence was

Re: [Emc-users] Linux installation problem

2009-04-20 Thread Jim Fleig - CNC Services
- From: Rafael Skodlar ra...@linwin.com To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC) emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net Sent: Monday, April 20, 2009 1:54 PM Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Linux installation problem Jim, this is way beyond EMC support ... You need seek help for BASIC PC setup elsewhere

Re: [Emc-users] Linux installation problem

2009-04-20 Thread Stuart Stevenson
Skodlar ra...@linwin.com To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC) emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net Sent: Monday, April 20, 2009 1:54 PM Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Linux installation problem Jim, this is way beyond EMC support ... You need seek help for BASIC PC setup elsewhere. However Jim Fleig

Re: [Emc-users] Linux installation problem

2009-04-20 Thread BRIAN GLACKIN
To all, Jim, this is way beyond EMC support ... You need seek help for BASIC PC setup elsewhere. However While this is true, many of the people coming to EMC are from a different planet (windoze) and learning to walk in a new land takes time and patience. This very stumbling block has