Re: [Emc-users] Need unlocked copy of a pdf for a breakout board I just bought two of.

2016-09-07 Thread Gregg Eshelman
Anything you can't move with programming, make an adapter cable to physically re-wire connections. From: Ralph Stirling To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC) Sent: Wednesday, September 7, 2016 7:32 AM Subject: Re:

Re: [Emc-users] Need unlocked copy of a pdf for a breakout

2016-09-07 Thread Gregg Eshelman
I designed a 3D printed case for it, with a solid lid and one with slots so the screw terminals can be turned with the lid on. The solid lid would be for a permanent install where you don't want easy access for people to fiddle with it. Mounting tabs would be easy to add with any 3D software

Re: [Emc-users] Need unlocked copy of a pdf for a breakout board I just bought two of.

2016-09-07 Thread andy pugh
On 7 September 2016 at 19:53, Ralph Stirling wrote: > Your 5i25 can talk to *anything* that expects a standard parallel > port, plus things that wouldn't talk to a standard parallel port, > like something that needed 17 outputs and no inputs. 34 outputs. Don't

Re: [Emc-users] Need unlocked copy of a pdf for a breakout board I just bought two of.

2016-09-07 Thread Ralph Stirling
Your 5i25 can talk to *anything* that expects a standard parallel port, plus things that wouldn't talk to a standard parallel port, like something that needed 17 outputs and no inputs. -- Ralph From: Gene Heskett [ghesk...@shentel.net] Sent: Wednesday,

Re: [Emc-users] Need unlocked copy of a pdf for a breakout board I just bought two of.

2016-09-07 Thread Gene Heskett
On Wednesday 07 September 2016 14:04:55 dan...@austin.rr.com wrote: > Why the 5i25? > > I have the 7i92, I like the ethernet. It allows me to put the card in > the control box without a mass of critical cabling between the PC and > the drives. Ethernet doesn't have much for length limitations.

Re: [Emc-users] Need unlocked copy of a pdf for a breakout board I just bought two of.

2016-09-07 Thread andy pugh
On 7 September 2016 at 17:47, Chris Albertson wrote: > I have not yet bought a 5i25 card. So my question might be answered in > whatever documentation comes with it. I don't know if they come with any documentation. Mine never have. Just google for "5i25man" and you

Re: [Emc-users] Need unlocked copy of a pdf for a breakout board I just bought two of.

2016-09-07 Thread Gene Heskett
On Wednesday 07 September 2016 13:50:44 John Kasunich wrote: > Chris Albertson [albertson.ch...@gmail.com] wrote: > > The other question: So we get the source code VHDL files for the > > firmware inside this card? This means we could use any FPGA card or > > even build one from a FPGA chip > >

Re: [Emc-users] Need unlocked copy of a pdf for a breakout board I just bought two of.

2016-09-07 Thread Gene Heskett
On Wednesday 07 September 2016 10:28:40 Peter C. Wallace wrote: > On Tue, 6 Sep 2016, Gene Heskett wrote: > > Date: Tue, 6 Sep 2016 19:03:23 -0400 > > From: Gene Heskett > > Reply-To: "Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)" > > > > To:

Re: [Emc-users] Need unlocked copy of a pdf for a breakout board I just bought two of.

2016-09-07 Thread Gene Heskett
On Wednesday 07 September 2016 09:32:35 Ralph Stirling wrote: > The 5i25 is completely flexible, more so than a standard parallel > port, as every pin from 1-17 can be input or output. Unforch, these cards all assume a std parport, so the card is hardwired accordingly. > If none of the >

Re: [Emc-users] Need unlocked copy of a pdf for a breakout board I just bought two of.

2016-09-07 Thread dannym
Why the 5i25? I have the 7i92, I like the ethernet. It allows me to put the card in the control box without a mass of critical cabling between the PC and the drives. Ethernet doesn't have much for length limitations. Danny Chris Albertson wrote: > I have

Re: [Emc-users] Need unlocked copy of a pdf for a breakout board I just bought two of.

2016-09-07 Thread John Kasunich
Chris Albertson [albertson.ch...@gmail.com] wrote: > > The other question: So we get the source code VHDL files for the firmware > inside this card? This means we could use any FPGA card or even build one > from a FPGA chip > Ralph Stirling replied: > > Yes, Mesa has been kind enough to

Re: [Emc-users] Need unlocked copy of a pdf for a breakout board I just bought two of.

2016-09-07 Thread Ralph Stirling
Yes, Mesa has been kind enough to open-source all the vhdl for their cards. I learned vhdl from reading Peter's excellent logic. You can look all the documentation up on Mesa's site and in the LinuxCNC source tree. You have to install the Xilinx webpack, but you don't have to use the Xilinx gui

Re: [Emc-users] Need unlocked copy of a pdf for a breakout board I just bought two of.

2016-09-07 Thread Chris Albertson
I have not yet bought a 5i25 card. So my question might be answered in whatever documentation comes with it. Can this card be used as a general purpose FPGA development card? Is the process well documented some place? If so then this card can be used for almost any purpose, for example I

Re: [Emc-users] Need unlocked copy of a pdf for a breakout board I just bought two of.

2016-09-07 Thread Kirk Wallace
On 09/06/2016 11:29 PM, Danny Miller wrote: On 9/7/2016 12:53 AM, Gene Heskett wrote: On Wednesday 07 September 2016 01:41:24 Dave Caroline wrote: That looks like a board I would not recommend look close to the white sockets near the axis outputs, it has series resistors for the driver

Re: [Emc-users] Need unlocked copy of a pdf for a breakout board I just bought two of.

2016-09-07 Thread Ralph Stirling
The 5i25 is completely flexible, more so than a standard parallel port, as every pin from 1-17 can be input or output. If none of the standard bitfiles covers your pinout need, Peter Wallace or John Thornton can easily generate one for you that does. It isn't at all impossible to set up to

Re: [Emc-users] Need unlocked copy of a pdf for a breakout board I just bought two of.

2016-09-07 Thread Peter C. Wallace
On Tue, 6 Sep 2016, Gene Heskett wrote: > Date: Tue, 6 Sep 2016 19:03:23 -0400 > From: Gene Heskett > Reply-To: "Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)" > > To: "Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)" > Subject:

Re: [Emc-users] Need unlocked copy of a pdf for a breakout

2016-09-07 Thread Ron Ginger
> Yes and no. No linkage between that pinout, and what pin this is on the > db25 connector. And its apparently a near 100% mis-match between a > 5i25's useage of the pins and whatever the hell mach3 uses. So unless > that is available in the password locked .pdf or .doc files, these cards > are

Re: [Emc-users] Need unlocked copy of a pdf for a breakout board I just bought two of.

2016-09-07 Thread Lester Caine
On 07/09/16 06:44, Gene Heskett wrote: > On Wednesday 07 September 2016 01:05:39 Chris Kelley wrote: > >> > What do you need to know about it? The last eBay link you posted has a >> > picture that shows the pinout. > Yes and no. No linkage between that pinout, and what pin this is on the > db25

Re: [Emc-users] Need unlocked copy of a pdf for a breakout board I just bought two of.

2016-09-07 Thread Greg Bentzinger
Gene; See the attached pdf I made. This is the pinouts as I read them from the ebay display images. It doesn't answer everything and I think you will want to use the B axis for spindle control since this BoB only provides for On/Off but no direction. Another oddity if I read things correctly

Re: [Emc-users] Need unlocked copy of a pdf for a breakout board I just bought two of.

2016-09-07 Thread Gregg Eshelman
If this shows up a bunch of times, it's Yahoo Mail's fault. Here it is, even has the pinout for the pendant/remote port. The LED displays are available direct from some places in China. Have not found anyoi

Re: [Emc-users] Need unlocked copy of a pdf for a breakout board I just bought two of.

2016-09-07 Thread Gregg Eshelman
Here it is, even has the pinout for the pendant/remote port. The LED displays are available direct from some places in China. Have not found anyone importing them to the USA. http://www.savebase.com/infobase/downloads/breakout_board_stepper_driver/user_manual_5_axis_breakout_board.pdf

Re: [Emc-users] Need unlocked copy of a pdf for a breakout board I just bought two of.

2016-09-07 Thread Gregg Eshelman
Here it is, even has the pinout for the pendant/remote port. The LED displays are available direct from some places in China. Have not found anyone importing them to the USA. http://www.savebase.com/infobase/downloads/breakout_board_stepper_driver/user_manual_5_axis_breakout_board.pdf

Re: [Emc-users] Need unlocked copy of a pdf for a breakout board I just bought two of.

2016-09-07 Thread Danny Miller
On 9/7/2016 12:53 AM, Gene Heskett wrote: > On Wednesday 07 September 2016 01:41:24 Dave Caroline wrote: > >> That looks like a board I would not recommend look close to the white >> sockets near the axis outputs, it has series resistors for the driver >> optos, these of course are in the driver

Re: [Emc-users] Need unlocked copy of a pdf for a breakout board I just bought two of.

2016-09-06 Thread Gene Heskett
On Wednesday 07 September 2016 01:41:24 Dave Caroline wrote: > That looks like a board I would not recommend look close to the white > sockets near the axis outputs, it has series resistors for the driver > optos, these of course are in the driver as well, this means half > current through the

Re: [Emc-users] Need unlocked copy of a pdf for a breakout board I just bought two of.

2016-09-06 Thread Gene Heskett
On Wednesday 07 September 2016 01:05:39 Chris Kelley wrote: > What do you need to know about it? The last eBay link you posted has a > picture that shows the pinout. Yes and no. No linkage between that pinout, and what pin this is on the db25 connector. And its apparently a near 100% mis-match

Re: [Emc-users] Need unlocked copy of a pdf for a breakout board I just bought two of.

2016-09-06 Thread Dave Caroline
That looks like a board I would not recommend look close to the white sockets near the axis outputs, it has series resistors for the driver optos, these of course are in the driver as well, this means half current through the opto and failure to work. I was working with a free issue board where I

Re: [Emc-users] Need unlocked copy of a pdf for a breakout board I just bought two of.

2016-09-06 Thread Chris Kelley
What do you need to know about it? The last eBay link you posted has a picture that shows the pinout. On Tue, Sep 6, 2016 at 9:20 PM, Gene Heskett wrote: > On Tuesday 06 September 2016 21:54:23 Ken Strauss wrote: > >> Old auctions stay around on eBay for quite a while if

Re: [Emc-users] Need unlocked copy of a pdf for a breakout board I just bought two of.

2016-09-06 Thread Gene Heskett
On Tuesday 06 September 2016 21:54:23 Ken Strauss wrote: > Old auctions stay around on eBay for quite a while if you search by > number. > Try this link then. He is still selling the same board, at the same

Re: [Emc-users] Need unlocked copy of a pdf for a breakout board I just bought two of.

2016-09-06 Thread Ken Strauss
Old auctions stay around on eBay for quite a while if you search by number. > -Original Message- > From: Gene Heskett [mailto:ghesk...@shentel.net] > Sent: Tuesday, September 06, 2016 9:51 PM > To: emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net > Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Need unlocked copy of a pdf for

Re: [Emc-users] Need unlocked copy of a pdf for a breakout board I just bought two of.

2016-09-06 Thread Gene Heskett
On Tuesday 06 September 2016 19:55:38 Gregg Eshelman wrote: > The link goes nowhere. Got the eBay item number? The auction has ended I guess. So while I may be able to find the item number, its likely no longer valid. Mutter. Practicing my 15 minute monolog... But I have sent the vendor a

Re: [Emc-users] Need unlocked copy of a pdf for a breakout board I just bought two of.

2016-09-06 Thread Gregg Eshelman
The link goes nowhere. Got the eBay item number? -- ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users

Re: [Emc-users] Need unlocked copy of a pdf for a breakout board I just bought two of.

2016-09-06 Thread Danny Miller
On 9/6/2016 6:03 PM, Gene Heskett wrote: > On Tuesday 06 September 2016 18:21:14 dan...@austin.rr.com wrote: > > Back on the list Danny. > >> Mesaflash allows you to change the IO configuration, but only to a >> number of premade configs, not arbitrary. The GPIO has few limits but >> the

Re: [Emc-users] Need unlocked copy of a pdf for a breakout board I just bought two of.

2016-09-06 Thread Gene Heskett
On Tuesday 06 September 2016 18:21:14 dan...@austin.rr.com wrote: Back on the list Danny. > Mesaflash allows you to change the IO configuration, but only to a > number of premade configs, not arbitrary. The GPIO has few limits but > the location of special-purpose STEPx/DIRx pairs are fixed.

Re: [Emc-users] Need unlocked copy of a pdf for a breakout board I just bought two of.

2016-09-06 Thread dannym
Mesaflash allows you to change the IO configuration, but only to a number of premade configs, not arbitrary. The GPIO has few limits but the location of special-purpose STEPx/DIRx pairs are fixed. But those locations change based on the mesaflash file you use. Danny Gene Heskett

[Emc-users] Need unlocked copy of a pdf for a breakout board I just bought two of.

2016-09-06 Thread Gene Heskett
Greetings all; Those breakout boards I bought 2 of arrived today, and are apparently pin assigned according to what a mach3 system might use, including the male db25 on the pcb. It apparently has pre-assigned output pin groups that are about as incompatible with a 5i25 as could be. I never