Re: [Emc-users] Proper treatment of Back Gear on a Bridgeport mill

2010-12-30 Thread andy pugh
On 30 December 2010 03:45, Don Stanley dstanley1...@gmail.com wrote: I use the following Hal logic to maintain the spindle speed (S setting) and direction when in Hi or Low gear on my Bridgeport. snip That seems to replicate in HAL what the gearchange component does. I am not entirely sure

Re: [Emc-users] Proper treatment of Back Gear on a Bridgeport mill

2010-12-30 Thread Thomas Powderly
if there are many index signals during motion, then use a 'near home' swx to identify which one and home in one direction the 'near home' switch should reduce the velocity so the index is reliable. i used a 90 to 1 gearing on a 3R Caxis with a prox switch and dog to identify which of 90 indexes

Re: [Emc-users] Proper treatment of Back Gear on a Bridgeport mill

2010-12-30 Thread Jon Elson
Thomas Powderly wrote: if there are many index signals during motion, then use a 'near home' swx to identify which one and home in one direction the 'near home' switch should reduce the velocity so the index is reliable. i used a 90 to 1 gearing on a 3R Caxis with a prox switch and dog to

Re: [Emc-users] Proper treatment of Back Gear on a Bridgeport mill

2010-12-30 Thread Igor Chudov
On Thu, Dec 30, 2010 at 11:27 AM, Jon Elson el...@pico-systems.com wrote: Thomas Powderly wrote: if there are many index signals during motion, then use a 'near home' swx to identify which one and home in one direction the 'near home' switch should reduce the velocity so the index is

Re: [Emc-users] Proper treatment of Back Gear on a Bridgeport mill

2010-12-30 Thread Thomas Powderly
Jon, Igor, i got it maybe identifying the setup with a picture might be of use heres a good breakdown of a j head http://home.comcast.net/~tom.jelly/j%20head%20rebuild%20web%20page/j%20head%20rebuild.htm tomp -- Learn how

[Emc-users] Proper treatment of Back Gear on a Bridgeport mill

2010-12-29 Thread Igor Chudov
I have a Bridgeport Interact 2 CNC mill and it has a back gear. In back gear, the spindle turns at the -1/8 of the original speed, that is, 8 times slower and in the opposite direction. I have an encoder on the driven pulley of the variable drive. Therefore, when my mill is in straight gear, the

Re: [Emc-users] Proper treatment of Back Gear on a Bridgeport mill

2010-12-29 Thread Igor Chudov
Oh, and one more thing: the index signal on the encoder, does not mean a full turn in back gear. It means -1/8 of a turn. Will that be a problem? On Wed, Dec 29, 2010 at 10:54 AM, Igor Chudov ichu...@gmail.com wrote: I have a Bridgeport Interact 2 CNC mill and it has a back gear. In back

Re: [Emc-users] Proper treatment of Back Gear on a Bridgeport mill

2010-12-29 Thread andy pugh
On 29 December 2010 16:54, Igor Chudov ichu...@gmail.com wrote: I would like to put a microswitch near the back gear lever, so that EMC2 would sense whether the mill is in back gear. 1) Spindle forward actually tells the VFD to rotate the motor backwards, so that the actual spindle would

Re: [Emc-users] Proper treatment of Back Gear on a Bridgeport mill

2010-12-29 Thread Igor Chudov
Andy, this is very interesting. How do I configure this gearchange, so that when a microswitch is turned on, it uses Gear 1, and when microswitch is off, it uses gear 0? Thanks A LOT! i On Wed, Dec 29, 2010 at 2:40 PM, andy pugh bodge...@gmail.com wrote: On 29 December 2010 16:54, Igor Chudov

Re: [Emc-users] Proper treatment of Back Gear on a Bridgeport mill

2010-12-29 Thread Igor Chudov
Would anyone have an example of gearchange implemented in their config file? Thanks, guys, this looks like it will fit my bill, I would just like to look at the example. Igor On Wed, Dec 29, 2010 at 2:46 PM, Igor Chudov ichu...@gmail.com wrote: Andy, this is very interesting. How do I

Re: [Emc-users] Proper treatment of Back Gear on a Bridgeport mill

2010-12-29 Thread andy pugh
On 29 December 2010 20:46, Igor Chudov ichu...@gmail.com wrote: Andy, this is very interesting. How do I configure this gearchange, so that when a microswitch is turned on, it uses Gear 1, and when microswitch is off, it uses gear 0? That rather depends on how your existing system is set up.

Re: [Emc-users] Proper treatment of Back Gear on a Bridgeport mill

2010-12-29 Thread Igor Chudov
On Wed, Dec 29, 2010 at 3:02 PM, andy pugh bodge...@gmail.com wrote: On 29 December 2010 20:46, Igor Chudov ichu...@gmail.com wrote: Andy, this is very interesting. How do I configure this gearchange, so that when a microswitch is turned on, it uses Gear 1, and when microswitch is off, it

Re: [Emc-users] Proper treatment of Back Gear on a Bridgeport mill

2010-12-29 Thread andy pugh
On 29 December 2010 21:27, Igor Chudov ichu...@gmail.com wrote: Right now I do not control my spindle speed from EMC at all. I do it by buttons that are electrical in nature, but are actuated by hand. The mill has a variable speed drive and I change speed by pressing buttons that run an air

Re: [Emc-users] Proper treatment of Back Gear on a Bridgeport mill

2010-12-29 Thread Igor Chudov
On Wed, Dec 29, 2010 at 3:54 PM, andy pugh bodge...@gmail.com wrote: On 29 December 2010 21:27, Igor Chudov ichu...@gmail.com wrote: Right now I do not control my spindle speed from EMC at all. I do it by buttons that are electrical in nature, but are actuated by hand. The mill has a

Re: [Emc-users] Proper treatment of Back Gear on a Bridgeport mill

2010-12-29 Thread Chris Radek
On Wed, Dec 29, 2010 at 03:58:55PM -0600, Igor Chudov wrote: That's a great idea. I thought of something like that, but did not know that there was a component. Also remember that you can have hal_float inputs and outputs with classicladder. They get treated as integers internally, but who

Re: [Emc-users] Proper treatment of Back Gear on a Bridgeport mill

2010-12-29 Thread Don Stanley
Hi Igor; I use the following Hal logic to maintain the spindle speed (S setting) and direction when in Hi or Low gear on my Bridgeport. A micro switch lets EMC2 know when the spindle is in low gear and the logic selects a different scale and direction, so fwd is still fwd in low gear. You should

Re: [Emc-users] Proper treatment of Back Gear on a Bridgeport mill

2010-12-29 Thread Jon Elson
Igor Chudov wrote: Oh, and one more thing: the index signal on the encoder, does not mean a full turn in back gear. It means -1/8 of a turn. Will that be a problem? The only problem is that you won't be able to re-tap a particular hole, as the tap will enter with one of 8 possible