[Emc-users] UK suppliers of stepper motors and drive electronics

2008-02-13 Thread davenull
On 12 Feb 2008 at 18:03, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: EMC can do PID just fine. It's steppers that can't. Steppers lose torque as the speed increases. There is no way around this, it's just the physics of the motor. Did someone rewrite the spec for PID? used to be a way of correcting a

Re: [Emc-users] UK suppliers of stepper motors and drive electronics

2008-02-13 Thread Stephen Wille Padnos
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 12 Feb 2008 at 18:03, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: EMC can do PID just fine. It's steppers that can't. Steppers lose torque as the speed increases. There is no way around this, it's just the physics of the motor. Did someone rewrite the spec for PID?

Re: [Emc-users] UK suppliers of stepper motors and drive electronics

2008-02-13 Thread Hansjakob Rusterholz
Am 13.02.2008 um 11:41 schrieb [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On 12 Feb 2008 at 18:03, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: EMC can do PID just fine. It's steppers that can't. Steppers lose torque as the speed increases. There is no way around this, it's just the physics of the motor. Did someone

Re: [Emc-users] UK suppliers of stepper motors and drive electronics

2008-02-13 Thread ben lipkowitz
On Wed, 13 Feb 2008, Dave Engvall wrote: EMC can do PID just fine. It's steppers that can't. Steppers lose torque as the speed increases. There is no way around this, it's just the physics of the motor. PID loop will attempt to correct for a lagging motor by requesting more effort

Re: [Emc-users] UK suppliers of stepper motors and drive electronics

2008-02-13 Thread John Kasunich
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 12 Feb 2008 at 18:03, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: EMC can do PID just fine. It's steppers that can't. Steppers lose torque as the speed increases. There is no way around this, it's just the physics of the motor. Did someone rewrite the spec for PID? No.

Re: [Emc-users] UK suppliers of stepper motors and drive electronics

2008-02-13 Thread John Kasunich
Kirk Wallace wrote: I think Tormach has a fairly compelling argument for steppers here: http://www.tormach.com/document_library/TD30204_DesignAnalysis.pdf Starts on page seven, though I think the whole document is worth while. Second that - I read the whole thing a few weeks ago. Its

[Emc-users] UK suppliers of stepper motors and drive electronics.

2008-02-12 Thread davenull
With the experience I have gained so far, it leads me to believe that you are making choices that may make your quest more difficult. If you are trying to have a CNC machine to make parts and spend as little as appropriate for that end, then you should consider studying other machines that

Re: [Emc-users] UK suppliers of stepper motors and drive electronics?

2008-02-12 Thread Kirk Wallace
On Tue, 2008-02-12 at 13:39 +, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Just a quickie. Can anyone recommend a UK supplier of stepper motors and associated drive electronics? eg just add mill, and computer running EMC. Mill is a light / middleweight Pinnacle universal job, XYZ travels are 400,

Re: [Emc-users] UK suppliers of stepper motors and drive electronics.

2008-02-12 Thread Kirk Wallace
On Tue, 2008-02-12 at 22:42 +, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: With the experience I have gained so far, it leads me to believe that you are making choices that may make your quest more difficult. If you are trying to have a CNC machine to make parts and spend as little as appropriate for

Re: [Emc-users] UK suppliers of stepper motors and drive electronics?

2008-02-12 Thread Lester Caine
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://www.arceurotrade.co.uk/Catalogue/Stepper-Motors The 180Ncm will be big enough, and at ?18.50 at the moment ... The 3 Amp driver at ?28.95 each are a good option for driving them, so for under ?150 you have all the grunt. They will run direct off the parallel

[Emc-users] UK suppliers of stepper motors and drive electronics?

2008-02-12 Thread davenull
http://www.arceurotrade.co.uk/Catalogue/Stepper-Motors The 180Ncm will be big enough, and at ?18.50 at the moment ... The 3 Amp driver at ?28.95 each are a good option for driving them, so for under ?150 you have all the grunt. They will run direct off the parallel port, but a simple

Re: [Emc-users] UK suppliers of stepper motors and drive electronics?

2008-02-12 Thread davenull
http://www.arceurotrade.co.uk/Catalogue/Stepper-Motors The 180Ncm will be big enough, and at ?18.50 at the moment ... The 3 Amp driver at ?28.95 each are a good option for driving them, so for under ?150 you have all the grunt. They will run direct off the parallel port, but a simple

Re: [Emc-users] UK suppliers of stepper motors and drive electronics?

2008-02-12 Thread Lester Caine
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Just a quickie. Can anyone recommend a UK supplier of stepper motors and associated drive electronics? eg just add mill, and computer running EMC. Mill is a light / middleweight Pinnacle universal job, XYZ travels are 400, 180, 150 mm with quill head having

Re: [Emc-users] UK suppliers of stepper motors and drive electronics?

2008-02-12 Thread Dave Caroline
I got mine from at the model engineer ex http://www.arceurotrade.co.uk/Catalogue/Stepper-Motors in Leicester and seems they have some even cheaper since I bought mine Dave Caroline archivist on #emc FreeNode - This SF.net

[Emc-users] UK suppliers of stepper motors and drive electronics?

2008-02-12 Thread davenull
Just a quickie. Can anyone recommend a UK supplier of stepper motors and associated drive electronics? eg just add mill, and computer running EMC. Mill is a light / middleweight Pinnacle universal job, XYZ travels are 400, 180, 150 mm with quill head having separate raise / lower facility and